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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 1:26am On Jun 12, 2019 |
samorobo:$56bn is too big for a tiny country like Kenya. You are too lenient and magnanimous with your stats.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:28am On Jun 12, 2019 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: The thing just taya me 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:30am On Jun 12, 2019 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:37am On Jun 12, 2019 |
samorobo: Sorry Samson, continue. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 1:46am On Jun 12, 2019 |
gallivant:mumu kid, your peers don sleep but u still dey here |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:50am On Jun 12, 2019 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 2:03am On Jun 12, 2019 |
samorobo:Ogbeni, Kenya is like a short folk who must make noise so that others can see them. Ask yourselve why short people talk a lot. Kenya is just too tiny for Nigeria. I wish I could meet the stewpid creature that created this thread comparing that tiny, hungry and starving people home with Nigeria, the Giant of Africa. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:35am On Jun 12, 2019 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: Hahahaha I am still coming with more (iibc). Getting news on iibc is really hard.those guys has done a pretty good job in concealing the project from the media so it would be like a surprise to the world. I got news from a reputable source that kinda works there he said they have finished land reclamation and are 75% done with all the roads and bridges in the city. He said the minute you enter the city you must submit evert digital gadget so you dont take images of the city out. It will be a surprise to the world when this is completed. Trust me. I will be back with a video of the little progress they managed to put on the internet 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:46am On Jun 12, 2019 |
Hahaha our lekki dear sea port will be completed this year and we will start enjoying it next year. Enjoy that lekki free trade zone video and it's progress How Lekki Port will boost economy by Babatunde Ayankunle 1 month ago Lekki Port With the financial muscle of the China Development Bank (CDB) behind it, the Lekki Port in Lagos is set for smooth sailing. When completed, an estimated 170,000 direct and indirect jobs will be created there. Besides, about $361 billion will be realised during the 45-year concession, including over $201 billion in taxes to the Federal and state governments, writes MUYIWA LUCAS. The Lekki Deep Sea Port in Lagos Free Trade Zone on completion will boost the nation’s maritime trade in addition to lifting its ranking in port development globally. It will also provide an estimated 170,000 direct and indirect jobs beside helping to boost the Gross Domestice Product (GDP). With the huge economic potential of the port, which will be among the top ports on the continent, the future of maritime in Nigeria is rosy. The port will host three container berths, one dry bulk berth and three liquid berths with a draught of 16.5 metres that will take larger vessels. Lekki port will boost the nation’s port system, which lags behind the likes of Singapore, which ranks as one of the world’s leading maritime capitals with seven per cent of its Gross Domestic Product (GDP) from maritime, and South Africa, which has a port system comparable to those of developed economies in sophistication, regulation and technology; hence the widespread inefficiencies in the region. Nigerian ports are rated among the most expensive in the world in terms of doing business. This is due to a combination of several factors, including poor infrastructure, inefficiency and corruption. The Lekki port on completion will change the narrative of Nigerian maritime. Stakeholders have, over the years, insisted that the sector has remained largely untapped, pegging the potential from the sector at less than five per cent. Though there has been several attempts to rejuvenate the sector by successive administrations to meet global standard, the industry is still faced with many challenges, which include inadequate financing, deficit in maritime/port infrastructure, inefficiencies in terminal operations, lack of transparency and sharp practices. In the whole sector, the ports remain the biggest goldmine that can impact greatly on the economy. Realising these inadequacies and determined to make a change, the Federal Government, in 2000, came out with policies that led to far-reaching reforms in the sector. These policies were rooted in the economic objectives of opening up space to increase the participation of private investment and initiative in the economy, thereby promoting a public-private sector-led economic growth. As the economy continues to grow, trade volumes rose and the dependency of the economy on the ports, especially the Lagos ports of Apapa and Tin Can Island, which accounts for 85 percent of cargo traffic, became too heavy. This led to the idea of a plan that would see to the development of Greenfield ports along Nigeria’s 853 kilometre coastline to match the country’s trade demand. One of these is the development of a deep seaport in Lekki-Epe area of Lagos State, known as Lekki Port. Under the arrangement, an International Consortium-Lekki Port Investment Holding Inc. (Tolaram Group) holds a 75 per cent equity, while the Federal Government through Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) and the Lagos State Government, shares the remaining equity at five and 20 per cent. The project, being executed on a Build-Own-Operate-Transfer (BOOT) basis, under a 45-year concession, has the NPA as its port regulator. This arrangement, stakeholders say, will ensure that adequate legal and regulatory framework, as well as incentives, would be put in place in line with the concession agreement to avoid inconsistency and policy shifts. The Lagos State Government has reiterated its commitment to play a key role in facilitating the ancillary works vital to the success of the port, such as enhancement of road infrastructure connections to the hinterland. With this, the chaotic situation in the Lagos ports, which has led to huge delays in clearing of goods from the ports and the parlous state of the port roads along the axis, will not be repeated in the Lekki Port. According to the Chief Financial Officer (CFO), Lekki Port Investment Holding Inc., Binay Saraf, one of the unique features of the new facility, is that it would cover a large area, close to 90 hectares, within the Lagos Free Trade Zone. Besides, it will have a draught capacity of 16.5 metres. With this, the country will be able to accommodate and berth the biggest vessels, which is impossible at the moment, due to draught constraints. At 12.5metres, Apapa port has the deepest draught in the country and Cotonu port, in the Republic of Benin, has 16m- draught capacity. Saraf further revealed that the facility would be equipped with the latest super Post-Panamax Ship-to- Shore cranes and RTG cranes, which ensures it will be a modern efficient facility. These infrastructure will guarantee that the initial target of 1.5 million 20-foot equivalent units (TEU) container capacity yearly, expected to hit 4.7 million TEUs, will make Lekki Port the hub destination for many shipping lines in the West African markets, which will combine their destination calls to Nigeria with transshipments. With these, Saraf is convinced that Lekki Port is positioned to serve as the gateway for the country and the surrounding West African region because the port will offer an opportunity to enter the rapidly- growing market and boosting the neighbouring economy. Saraf further explained that the development of the Lekki Port would be in phases to meet the burgeoning trade coming from within and outside the country. “It is estimated that about 170,000 direct and indirect jobs will be generating approximately $361 billion during the concession, including over $201 billion in tax revenue to both the state and Federal governments,” he revealed. A key feature of modern port is a world-class container terminal. To this end, Lekki Port has signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with CMA CGM Group, a world leader in maritime transport, to operate its container terminal. As the container terminal operator, CMA CGM, through its subsidiary CMA Terminals, will be responsible for marketing, operations and maintenance of the container terminal. He said with the latest technology in container’s screening and processing, the port will deliver smooth and efficient movement of goods to and from the site once the commercial activities begin in 2020 to ensure clearing of goods within 48 hours. Determined to deliver a world-class port facility, the promoter has also engaged two global companies, China Harbour Engineering Company Limited (CHEC) and The Louis Berger Group. While CHEC, the engineering and construction arm of China Construction and Communication Company, was appointed as the Engineering, Procurement and Construction (EPC) contractor, The Louis Berger Group, United States, one of the largest multi-disciplinary infrastructure consulting firm in the world, was hired as the project’s management consultant. Notably, China Harbour would soon have equity participation in the project, with a certain percentage to be infused soon. “It is interesting to note that since the project berthed, the Federal Government has found it worthy to share in the success story. In several fora, it has continued to list the project as one that is in line with its Economic Recovery Growth Plan (ERGP), emphasising that it supports game-changing infrastructure projects directed at making an impact on trade and commerce in the country,” Saraf said. At the flag-off of the project last year, President Muhammadu Buhari, represented by Vice President Yemi Osinbajo, declared the Federal Government’s commitment to its success, noting its enormous economic benefits. And in line with this, the Federal Government recently directed the Nigerian Railway Corporation (NRC), through the Federal Ministry of Transportation, to link all the seaports, including Lekki Port, to railway as possible shortest. Upon the completion of Lekki Deep Sea project, Nigeria can stand shoulder high in the league of globally respected maritime capitals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvNaWsGZH3E |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:02am On Jun 12, 2019 |
I personally call this the "wakanda of africa" cause it more like fantasy than reality even though it actually a reality.okay so I will be doing it like this for a better understanding of the plan of this magnificent city, so engineers in the house study the plan in the first video which is what the city would look like and then watch the second video which is an updated video on the progress of the city from August 2018, that way you can relate both videos and understand the city concept.Anyway engineers from kenya you are invited please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5bocQV0rTo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1fMlIp7cCg
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:45am On Jun 12, 2019 |
Lagos environs and newly office spaces available 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:13am On Jun 12, 2019 |
Obaboon - you exceeded our expectations and you actually got to 14B - about 10B dollars less. Congratulations. You were doing great - (like we had minor disagreement on milk/tea bla 2018 quantities and prices) - but you did a somersault on 'Other Crops' for 2016 - and put a figure - you forget to do the same for 'Other livestock' - considering you only focuses on raw informal milk & meat -- But you tried - when I get time I will help you with my figures - and KNBS figures --- hopefully you'll learn something. And then you'll take us through the Nigeria most kept secret - It's six world largest agriclutural sector - worth 80-100B. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:15am On Jun 12, 2019 |
All dreams in big plans, renderes, in papers, in software are valid. Keep dream on. But Nigeria will not amount to much until it wakes up, folds her sleeves and actually actualize those dreams - by making it happen. For now hope springs eternal. Most importantly continue praying for OIL price to keep up because without it poverty will move from 70% to 90% pretty soon. samorobo: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:31am On Jun 12, 2019 |
So to keep thing sane - I am going to keep updating this post until we have all the data. Kenya 2018 Agriculture GDP (crop & livestock production, forestry and fisheries) Agriculture - Definition as per - International Standard Industrial Classification of All Economic Activities (ISIC), Revision 4 Agriculture, forestry and fishing Division 01 Crop and animal production, hunting and related service activities 011 Growing of non-perennial crops 0111 Growing of cereals (except rice), leguminous crops and oil seeds 0112 Growing of rice 0113 Growing of vegetables and melons, roots and tubers 0114 Growing of sugar cane 0115 Growing of tobacco 0116 Growing of fibre crops 0119 Growing of other non-perennial crops 012 Growing of perennial crops 0121 Growing of grapes 0122 Growing of tropical and subtropical fruits 0123 Growing of citrus fruits 0124 Growing of pome fruits and stone fruits 0125 Growing of other tree and bush fruits and nuts 0126 Growing of oleaginous fruits 0127 Growing of beverage crops 0128 Growing of spices, aromatic, drug and pharmaceutical crops 0129 Growing of other perennial crops 013 0130 Plant propagation 014 Animal production 0141 Raising of cattle and buffaloes 0142 Raising of horses and other equines 0143 Raising of camels and camelids 0144 Raising of sheep and goats 0145 Raising of swine/pigs 0146 Raising of poultry 0149 Raising of other animals 015 0150 Mixed farming 016 Support activities to agriculture and post-harvest crop activities 0161 Support activities for crop production 0162 Support activities for animal production Division Group Class Description 0163 Post-harvest crop activities 0164 Seed processing for propagation 017 0170 Hunting, trapping and related service activities Division 02 Forestry and logging 021 0210 Silviculture and other forestry activities 022 0220 Logging 023 0230 Gathering of non-wood forest products 024 0240 Support services to forestry Division 03 Fishing and aquaculture 031 Fishing 0311 Marine fishing 0312 Freshwater fishing 032 Aquaculture 0321 Marine aquaculture 0322 Freshwater aquaculture Average Prices 2018 Beef - with bones 1 Kg 439.04 Offals - Matumbo 1 Kg 262.87 Bread,White 400 Gms 50.24 Maize grain- loose 1 Kg 49.20 Milk - Packeted 1/2 Litre 60.59 Sugar 1 Kg 132.62 Wheat Flour 2 kg 122.28 English Potatoes 1 Kg 67.86 Kales - Sukuma-wiki 1 Kg 50.75 Cabbages 1 Kg 40.84 Crop production 2018 Maize production bags (000,000) 44.6 * 3000 = roughly 1.35B dollars. Beans Production bags(000,000) 9.3 *7000 =roughly 0.6B dollars. Potatoes Production tonnes 1.9 *70= roughly 0.45B dollars. Sorghum Production bags 2.1 = Millet Production bags 0.8 Wheat production Barley production Rice, paddy production Oilcrops primary production Vegetables primary production Other Roots and tubers production Sugar cane production Fruit production Tea Production Bananas production Coffee production Livestock Marketed Agriculture -2018 - ( KSh 497.9 - 5B dollars) Coffee-marketed production ('000 tonnes) 36.8 Tea-marketed production ('000 tonnes) 493.0 Fresh Horticultural Produce exports ('000 tonnes) 322.6 Maize-marketed production ('000 tonnes) 441.5 Wheat-marketed production ('000 tonnes) 330.3 Sugar-cane production ('000 tonnes)5,262.2 Milk sold centrally (Mn litres) 634.3 - These are reported by marketing boards Forestry Fishing & Aquacutlure 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 6:09am On Jun 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:Child of hate chill! These are real projects. Nigeria is not labelled the Giant of Africa for nothing, you haven't seen anything yet. Let me break your heart dude, if you have ever thought that Kenya will measure up with Nigeria in this life, it is a wishful creation of your imagination. There are so many projects going on right now in Nigeria as we speak, Dangote Refinery alone dwarfs all the projects in Kenya. Dude! Kenya should look for her peer to compare herself with not Nigeria. It is an insult for anyone to make an attempt to compare that arid and famine ravaged country with a land of honey and milk. Truth be told, Kenya is just to small for Nigeria even at our worst state. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 6:20am On Jun 12, 2019 |
samorobo: We are paying our debt and borrowing We have never defaulted |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:53am On Jun 12, 2019 |
I don't hate Nigeria. I hate it's retrogressive citizens and leadership. I admire countries like Ghana, Rwanda, Botswana, South Africa and Namibia - who are progressing. You can add Kenya & even Ethiopia to that list. You pick any indicator of progress - you see those 5 or so countries always topping it in SSA - they are moving slowly to middle and developed world status. Their citizen are enjoying higher and higher quality of life. The people in those countries are more hopeful and optimistic than ever. They are not capsizing in Mediterranean seas trying to escape their country. As for Dangote - he clearly has Nigeria in his pocket - and he is just tightening the grip - with oil & fertilizer refinery. The margins he makes from his cement company is crazy. He is obviously part of the Abuja protected businesses that Nigeria have to endure via the so called "Banned Imports". I bet his first business when he get refinery working is to lobby Abuja to ban importation of refined fuels - so he can do what he does - monopolize the market and canabalize the citizens. I hope one day you get to ride in Dangote jet. It more likely to happen that seeing any of Nigerian big plans in renders off grounds - big dreams - big plans - zero implementation - or at best very very slow implementation. I mean we have 8B dollar steel mill that has rusted to the ground before it produce 1 billet of steel. You cannot engage in false hope like Samrobo. You got to face the reality. Your cannot move forward with gov budget that TINY. NigeriaIsDoomed: 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:05am On Jun 12, 2019 |
It's not your money its Tony's! samorobo: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:09am On Jun 12, 2019 |
I'm patiently waiting for Naijas agricultural breakdown! rvp2018: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 7:11am On Jun 12, 2019 |
samorobo: 75% or generally Nigerians are languishing in poverty, this is totally a misplaced priority |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 7:58am On Jun 12, 2019 |
Google has joined Kenyans in celebrating the 60th birthday of the late Kenyan novelist Margaret Ogola who died on September 12, 2011. Ogola was an author, paediatrician, and a human rights advocate. In addition to her writing career, she served as a paediatrician and the medical director of Cottolengo Hospice, a hospice for HIV and AIDS orphans. 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:50am On Jun 12, 2019 |
Stevoh18: The river and the source I did her book back in highschool 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 4:34pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
rvp2018: We told these guys about the Pinnacle as they screamed and screeched like rats with burning tails! Africa's #1 SuperTall is coming along nicely despite a court case involving a Ug shareholder. There's another one at the Coast in Watamu,the Palm to begin soon. The building’s developers are investors from New York, South Africa and Italian billionaire Franco Rosco.https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001296264/pinnacle-tower-set-to-be-rivaled-by-a-new-61-storey-building-in-watamu-the-palm-exotica
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 4:44pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
rvp2018: At least he's trying! Its much more difficult than he imagined,even for a genuine researcher. THE VALUE CHAIN (that term again!) is much deeper than most can even estimate. Eg,cow dung-A 10 ton load is 300 $ as we speak. How many truckloads are bought daily in Kenya?
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 4:49pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
Obaaderemi,I tried to tell you about self praise: (Most) people suffer from low self-esteem issues and in the absence of other people’s validation/approval they feel lowly and start suffering from inferiority complex. To buck up their deflated spirits they resort to techniques like posturing and projecting a false but exaggerated image of theirs with the belief that with self-aggrandizement they would be taken more seriously and regarded highly than they were without it … hence the self-indulgence of self praisehttps://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-indulge-in-self-praise I know its not just the likes of fellow comedians you want-you see writing is unconsciously cathartic for some. Your motivation for validation is deeper than you yourself know. At least I had to try! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:00pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
Stevoh18:beat me to it man..i need to wake ma lazy bones much earlier.. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
samorobo: nairobi Keinya vidéo du jour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KVSv8XT4gU&t=29s |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:19pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
TayserMahri:I know very little about it. I only know some families including Kenyan are suing (spelling might be wrong) Boeing. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 6:04pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
An example of success or positive trend #Nairobi 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:09pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
Stevoh18:Nice one..naija haiwezi make |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:11pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
Deerpark Karen Villas naiaj peeps welcome to good life...hamwezi make .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E57lu-dRpp0 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jun 12, 2019 |
A Tanzanian man, Hussein Masoud Eid, was on Wednesday sentenced to 30 years in jail and fined Ksh90 million by a Mombasa court. 2 Likes
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