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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:31pm On Jun 13, 2019
Kazikazi:
A pic have been removed

What a thug you are ! Dont do that next time. We dont subscribe to ujamaa utopia. Only Kenyans would be allowed to post Hawaii pics grin

Quick Question: How much has been allocated to electric SGR, Bagamoyo and LNG in your meager 14.5 b budget this year?

Kenya's budget is 3,020,000,000,000 (three trillion) Kenya shillings, equivalent to 68,403,000,000,000 (sixty eight trillion) Tanzania shillings, or 10,721,000,000,000 (ten trillion) Nigerian naira grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:32pm On Jun 13, 2019
Based on what exchange rate smiley I used google for both Kshs and USD. If we use the real market (black mate); then it about 365Naira to a dollar.
obaaderemi:
Liar. You are desperate.
195bn naira is $673million dollars. grin
*2.8 approximately *3.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:35pm On Jun 13, 2019
Haawai is basically Kenya-he doesn't know that! grin
TayserMahri:


What a thug you are ! Dont do that next time. We dont subscribe to ujamaa utopia. Only Kenyans would be allowed to post Hawaii pics grin

Quick Question: How much has been allocated to electric SGR, Bagamoyo and LNG in your meager 14.5 b budget this year?

Kenya's budget is 3,020,000,000,000 (three trillion) Kenya shillings, equivalent to 68,403,000,000,000 (sixty eight trillion) Tanzania shillings, or 10,721,000,000,000 (ten trillion) Nigerian naira grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:38pm On Jun 13, 2019
You keep lying - Kenya in 2015 had 31B dollars total banking asset sector - 2016 - 41B - 2017 - 43B - 2018 - I think we ended around 45-50B dollars - this year 2019 is when Kenya is projected to hit 100B - and Banking assets will probably exceed 50B dollars.

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2017/06/kenyan-banks-assets-hit-sh4-1-trillion-2016/
Data submitted by Central Bank of Kenya puts the total assets of the sector at Sh4.1 trillion, up from Sh3.1 trillion as at December 2015.

obaaderemi:
It doesn't work that way,boy.How come Tunisia with a $40bn GDP have the same banking asset with Kenya with a phantom $100bn gdp.? grin I am waiting for your explanation.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 2:43pm On Jun 13, 2019
Jonraid:
South Africa-8.3b

Egypt-5.5b

Morrocco-2.1b

Nigeria-1.9b (the biggest economy in Africa grin)-170-200 million people!

Kenya-1.3b

Algeria-972m USD


Comment-Crazy numbers by South Africa!







Nigeria's fake GDP exposed...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 2:45pm On Jun 13, 2019
KQ @Rome

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:47pm On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
Nonsense. Comparing 2015 Kenya data with latest Nigeria data. By 2016 - it was 2017 around 37B. Now it should be way above 40B dollars.

Nairobi, 25th August 2017 - Kenya Bankers Association (KBA), the banking industry's umbrella body and the financial sector's lead advocacy group representing total assets in excess of Kshs. 3.7 trillion (USD 37 Billion), has announced that Mayfair Bank Ltd

Now the chart your jonrad brother brought is no longer valid because it does not favour you. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:49pm On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
Based on what exchange rate smiley I used google for both Kshs and USD. If we use the real market (black mate); then it about 365Naira to a dollar.
You are now desperate. No matter how you cut it,Zenith profits is still far superior to KBC's.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:51pm On Jun 13, 2019
What a plus for tourism!
Stevoh18:
KQ @Rome
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:51pm On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
Yes - there is nothing there - it's just islamic states without oil - Kids go to madrassa - and that end of their schooling - then they become slaves of their Emirs - the Almajiris. It's like Northern Kenya but 100M people instead of just 2-3m people.


1 Dangote - 100M almajiri beggars


We've not gotten to this level:

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:51pm On Jun 13, 2019
Of course. Zenith has lot more assets than KCB. In fact I predicted KCB & Equity will overtake all other Nigerians bank except Zenith in 3-4yrs. Zenith last I checked had more than 20B dollars assets. KCB was around 8B dollars. Kenya banks are consolidating - KCB has seen taken I think 3 local banks and are expanding - building up their asset base. The rest of banking sector is also slowly consolidating.
obaaderemi:
You are now desperate. No matter how you cut it,Zenith profits is still far superior to KBC's.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:54pm On Jun 13, 2019
More pictures!
Stevoh18:
KQ @Rome

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:55pm On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
Of course. Zenith has lot more assets than KCB. In fact I predicted KCB & Equity will overtake all other Nigerians bank except Zenith in 3-4yrs. Zenith last I checked had more than 20B dollars assets. KCB was around 8B dollars. Kenya banks are consolidating - KCB has seen taken I think 3 local banks and are expanding - building up their asset base. The rest of banking sector is also slowly consolidating.
Access is now bigger than Zenith. cheesy So you have a lot of catching up to do

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:55pm On Jun 13, 2019
Turkana, Somalis, Pokots and Oromos in kenya who live in arid part of kenya and occasionally suffer ravages of drought - are what - about 3 million people - out of 47M kenyans now.

And we are working against time to reduce poverty up the northern arid deserts. Those are what about 10% of our population.

Now your almajiris is your entire north - about 100M people! Do you have any plan to get these people out of desperate poverty or you've left them to Islam completely like I suspect.

obaaderemi:
We've not gotten to this level:

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:00pm On Jun 13, 2019
Jonraid:
South Africa-8.3b
Egypt-5.5b
Morrocco-2.1b
Nigeria-1.9b (the biggest economy in Africa grin)-170-200 million people!
Kenya-1.3b
Algeria-972m USD

Comment-Crazy numbers by South Africa!




No link,no attachments. Nothing. grin This is trash.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:01pm On Jun 13, 2019
I see they acquired Diamond Bank - now you've two big banks - Kenyans banks will get there - because they are very innovative and will overtake Nigeria. I am looking for 2018 Banking Sector Analysis - You can only piggy-back so much the oil sector. Our economy is growing - our banks will grow - in fact since 2015 they were constrained with interest cap - but now that high court has ruled the law illegal - our banks will start lending again.

And we haven't talked about our large co-operative movement and well mobile lending which is now crazily big.

Kenya is moving ahead so fast.

obaaderemi:
Access is now bigger than Zenith. cheesy So you have a lot of catching up to do

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:07pm On Jun 13, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:08pm On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
Turkana, Somalis, Pokots and Oromos in kenya who live in arid part of kenya and occasionally suffer ravages of drought - are what - about 3 million people - out of 47M kenyans now.

And we are working against time to reduce poverty up the northern arid deserts. Those are what about 10% of our population.

Now your almajiris is your entire north - about 100M people! Do you have any plan to get these people out of desperate poverty or you've left them to Islam completely like I suspect.

Do you have any plans to help the millions starving across Kenya? You should have stuck to talking your fake economic stuff instead of posting silly pictures. Kenya is the poster child for hunger and poverty. grin We can derail the whole cool debate we were having with bad pictures from Kenya and you will be the one to run.We were talking about banking before you diverted it with poverty pictures out of frustration.Typical.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:10pm On Jun 13, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhyFQ7Q1U38?t=47
obaaderemi:
Do you have any plans to help the millions starving across Kenya? You should have stuck to talking your fake economic stuff instead of posting silly pictures. Kenya is the poster child for hunger and poverty. grin We can derail the whole cool debate we were having with bad pictures from Kenya and you will be the one to run.We were talking about banking before you diverted it with poverty pictures out of frustration.Typical.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:11pm On Jun 13, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:13pm On Jun 13, 2019
The pictures of poverty in kenya is a reality.The pictures of slums are a reality. Kenya has millions of poor people (15M). I think we take it as call to action. We are doing very well in that sector. In 2014 we started Welfare System with monthly remittance to the poor, the disabled, the old, orphans and vulnerable. Any disable person in Kenya get 30 dollars monthly. Any person above 65 yrs old get 30 dollars per month (pension no pension). We have about 1.2M household in North Kenya who receive 30 dollars for their food. In short we have about 5M (10%) of kenyan on welfare programs.

Poverty is coming down. Btw 2006-2016 - we pulled out 4-5M people out of poverty. By now we have probably moved another 3M out of poverty. We probably still have about 10-12M extremely poor people in Kenya that we need to pull out of poverty and we are working on it.

As for Nigeria - your poor are on their own - poverty has increase to shocking levels - about 70% of Nigerians are now poor.

obaaderemi:
Do you have any plans to help the millions starving across Kenya? You should have stuck to talking your fake economic stuff instead of posting silly pictures. Kenya is the poster child for hunger and poverty. grin We can derail the whole cool debate we were having with bad pictures from Kenya and you will be the one to run.We were talking about banking before you diverted it with poverty pictures out of frustration.Typical.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:17pm On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
The pictures of poverty in kenya is a reality.The pictures of slums are a reality. Kenya has millions of poor people (15M). I think we take it as call to action. We are doing very well in that sector. In 2014 we started Welfare System with monthly remittance to the poor, the disabled, the old, orphans and vulnerable. Any disable person in Kenya get 30 dollars monthly. Any person above 65 yrs old get 30 dollars per month (pension no pension). We have about 1.2M household in North Kenya who receive 30 dollars for their food. In short we have about 5M (10%) of kenyan on welfare programs.

Poverty is coming down. Btw 2006-2016 - we pulled out 4-5M people out of poverty. By now we have probably moved another 3M out of poverty. We probably still have about 10-12M extremely poor people in Kenya that we need to pull out of poverty and we are working on it.

As for Nigeria - your poor are on their own - poverty has increase to shocking levels - about 70% of Nigerians are now poor.

The pictures speak louder than data. grin Kenyans are poorer than your government is letting on. Where else do people look like victims of biblical images of curses and starvation apart from Kenya?
You are where Ethiopia and Somalia were in the 80s.
What a shame. Keep lying to yourselves.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:22pm On Jun 13, 2019
I pretty sure you're a gifted image analyst so I let you keep at that. I know for a fact you were running on empty.

A few years ago - Turkana had poverty rate of 98% - I know this because I deal with data alot - now it's down to 75%.

To imagine Nigeria is right there - Turkana kind of povery - National Poverty of 70% - is pretty shocking.

In kenya we are winning the war against poverty

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001329006/five-million-enlisted-for-state-cash-transfers
Population of Kenyans living in extreme poverty (those with a monthly household expenditure below Sh2,000 in rural and below Sh2,500 in urban areas) has reduced by almost 50 per cent to 8.6 per cent over the last decade, according to the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics


obaaderemi:
The pictures speak louder than data. grin Kenyans are poorer than your government is letting on. Where else do people look like victims of biblical images of curses and starvation apart from Kenya?
You are where Ethiopia and Somalia were in the 80s.
What a shame. Keep lying to yourselves.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:22pm On Jun 13, 2019
Jonraid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhyFQ7Q1U38?t=47
Okay,since you have decided to be stupid and to dance na.ked. Let's go there: grin
Where else do people look like this:

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 3:24pm On Jun 13, 2019
Jonraid:
More pictures!


Where is air tz the profit making machine smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:26pm On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
I pretty sure you're a gifted image analyst so I let you keep at that. I know for a fact you were running on empty.

A few years ago - Turkana had poverty rate of 98% - I know this because I deal with data alot - now it's down to 75%.

To imagine Nigeria is right there - Turkana kind of povery - National Poverty of 70% - is pretty shocking.

Are you tired already? If you were not running on empty,why did you derail the banking talk with pictures of poor folks in north Nigeria? All because we proved your banks are small.Is that enough for you to get angry? How can people look like sick dogs in a nation that claims to be east Africa's most modern society? Even Ethiopians and Somalis don't look like that anymore.
Get out of my face! grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:28pm On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
I see they acquired Diamond Bank - now you've two big banks - Kenyans banks will get there - because they are very innovative and will overtake Nigeria. I am looking for 2018 Banking Sector Analysis - You can only piggy-back so much the oil sector. Our economy is growing - our banks will grow - in fact since 2015 they were constrained with interest cap - but now that high court has ruled the law illegal - our banks will start lending again.

And we haven't talked about our large co-operative movement and well mobile lending which is now crazily big.

Kenya is moving ahead so fast.

Two big banks? First Bank is bigger than anything you have to offer. grin

Even GTB should have a bigger asset than any of your tiny banks.
https://www.pulse.ng/bi/finance/nigerias-gtbank-posts-over-dollar500-million-profit-in-2018/mqgt0ez

N.B I knew it. grin Even gtb is bigger than your biggest, in assets and in profitability. It's not worth it comparing banking sector between Nigeria and Kenya. Kenya comes up short.Evidence of a $56bn economy. grin grin grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:31pm On Jun 13, 2019
The thread is still going on. Unless you're planning to derail it by banning folks or deleting it. The fact is you cannot have 200M people with banking asset of 110B dollars. Fact is Nigeria is world capital of poverty. 70% of Nigeria are poor. You have 90M people extremely poor people.

We cannot make a deal here to hide pictures of poverty. If you think pictures will help you make your point do it.

Kenya has tribes like Turkana that refused to modernized. They still dress they way they are dressed. They are mostly cut off in deserts. You'll find such people in US (red Indians) or even in Finland or Australia or name any rich country.

Turkana is not representative of kenya.

obaaderemi:
Are you tired already? If you were not running on empty,why did you derail the banking talk with pictures of poor folks in north Nigeria? All because we proved your banks are small.Is that enough for you to get angry? How can people look like sick dogs in a nation that claims to be east Africa's most modern society? Even Ethiopians and Somalis don't look like that anymore.
Get out of my face! grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:33pm On Jun 13, 2019
Not for long. Those ones are probably already overtaken by KCB & Equity. You have 18 banks. We have about 40 banks. You forced consolidations of your banks because they were all collapsing - and we haven't got there yet.
obaaderemi:
Two big banks? First Bank is bigger than anything you have to offer. grin

Even GTB should have a bigger asset than any of your tiny banks.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 3:44pm On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
The thread is still going on. Unless you're planning to derail it by banning folks or deleting it. The fact is you cannot have 200M people with banking asset of 110B dollars. Fact is Nigeria is world capital of poverty. 70% of Nigeria are poor. You have 90M people extremely poor people.

We cannot make a deal here to hide pictures of poverty. If you think pictures will help you make your point do it.

Kenya has tribes like Turkana that refused to modernized. They still dress they way they are dressed. They are mostly cut off in deserts. You'll find such people in US (red Indians) or even in Finland or Australia or name any rich country.

Turkana is not representative of kenya.

cheesy Why should anyone think of banning a lame duck like you. That has always been your excuse when you want to run.
And we are not deleting this thread! We have your ass where we want it. You fvcked with the wrong niggahs.
Don't beg.

And yes,when you mention Kenya anywhere in the world today, only two things come to folk's minds:
Kenya's legendary corruption
and biblical proportion hunger.
Deal with it.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:47pm On Jun 13, 2019
You're obtuse. Banks are compared by sector. You were banks have nothing on South Africa - because South Africa big banks are like 4. One South Africa bank is more than your entire banking sector.

Standard Bank of South Africa has like 163B dollar bank assets.

You consolidated your 40 plus banks into 18 or less now - and you got a few decent banks that are stable enough.

Kenya is consolidating - not thro forced mergers - slowly - and we now have 4 banks in top 1000 banks - Nigeria I think has six or so.

obaaderemi:
Two big banks? First Bank is bigger than anything you have to offer. grin

Even GTB should have a bigger asset than any of your tiny banks.
https://www.pulse.ng/bi/finance/nigerias-gtbank-posts-over-dollar500-million-profit-in-2018/mqgt0ez

N.B I knew it. grin Even gtb is bigger than your biggest, in assets and in profitability. It's not worth it comparing banking sector between Nigeria and Kenya. Kenya comes up short.Evidence of a $56bn economy. grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:50pm On Jun 13, 2019
Is that best come up when you have 140M desperately poor Nigerians openly defecating as we speak. KaziKazi does that about every day.

You can take the next 20 pages posting images of Kibera and Turkana. Once you've had the therapy you need - we will resume with our debate - backed by nothing more than empiricism.

Won't change the fact that Nigeria is a world capital of POVERTY. That title Kenyan didn't give you. You got it.

obaaderemi:
cheesy Why should anyone think of banning a lame duck like you. That has always been your excuse when you want to run.
And we are not deleting this thread! We have your ass where we want it. You fvcked with the wrong niggahs.
Don't beg.

And yes,when you mention Kenya anywhere in the world today, only two things come to folk's minds:
Kenya's legendary corruption
and biblical proportion hunger.
Deal with it.

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