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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 2:55pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Haba I no wan give person pikin heart attack ohh....the ones you and TV01 are dishing at him is more than enough for him to muster! That question you are asking him will never....I repeat,will never be answered by him! An individual who claims to be spiritually minded will turn the scriptures upside down just to suit his clownish hypothesis! Ever since he kept accepting and also rejecting his very submissions was when I knew I was dealing with a barefaced prevaricator! Watch how he will place an 'IGNORE MODE ON' claptrap just to show he has run 'out of steam'! |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 3:01pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Good! That's the question that should be squarely directed at him! But alas,he will either refer you to his three page 'bring you back' load of crap or say scriptures will be coming in the next blockbuster movie "fast and furious 9" ![]() ![]() |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 3:26pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Their cup of wrath was full for divine judgement to be visited upon them Shepherd00 MuttleyLaff: Shepherd00:The Amorites are mentioned in the Bible as inhabitants of Canaan both before and after the conquest of the land, now God, in, Deuteronomy 12:31 said: "You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshipping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates" and Leviticus 18 gives details of many of the sinful religious practices of the Canaanites, which included child sacrifice to the god Molech, incest, bestiality, being kadesh or qadesh (i.e. which is temple prostitute and a form of homosexuality) and cultic prostitution, I have earlier, talked about why God was against the Amorites, I've talked about why Sodom and Gomorrah was planned to be destroyed, even before their attempted homosexual gang rape intention of visitor angels to the town, but all you want from me, is to cut everything up in small piece sizes, prise your mouth open and spoon feed you. Maybe I should come you tuck into bed too tonight. What time do you sleep at night, so I'll come do just that for you too, hmm? Shepherd00:Why the interest? So you could trample on it and dance all over it, I guess, hmm? MuttleyLaff: Shepherd00:Few and far in between agrees Shepherd00:Now, its gotten to you, accusing me of copy pasting "pro-homosexual ideologies with warped and skewed Bible representations". It is only a wounded person that lies and lie low with a slanderous comment like that Shepherd00:Really? I know you have forgotten, I've told you about Mpho Andrea Tutu-van Furth. I know you dont know who her father is and I know you'll lambaste him once you know, saying he's sold out, he has disappointed you etcetera MuttleyLaff: Shepherd00:Remember that what brought me interjecting David and Jonathan with Judas and Jesus or others kissing was when you said, it is unhuman for a man to kiss another man. Whether David was homosexual, bisexual or whatnot is no skin off my nose, as I couldnt be bothered what he is MuttleyLaff: Shepherd00:I have never kept it a secret what type of homosexuality is permissible. If TV01 could suss me out that much, you are better off asking him to tell you, about what I say in that regard. You know how to reach out to him on other matters, why are you shy asking him on this one? MuttleyLaff: Shepherd00:Its you lot who dodge my questions, like, what is the evil in same sex attraction, what is the reason, God said it's an abomination, why did God, say he desists it, what is wrong or bad in same sex attraction acts etcetera, you lot just abandoned and run off without responding to any of them. I answer your reasonable, rational and non obnoxious questions. I sometimes reanswer questions, I've previously answered elsewhere too. Shepherd00:There is no escape route. I locked the door with all of us inside and threw out the key through the window. Didnt I say, no one get off this bumpy ride before the wheels come off. You no sabi momoh TV01, sees certain things you dont see. I know you'll listen to him rather than me telling you stuff. Its the other way round actually, its you having a bone to pick with me remember Shepherd00:Is your nose still growing? SMH. It should because I never mentioned tongue sucking or lip sucking kisses. It was you who said men kissing each other was unhuman, making me provide you with biblical ref of kissing men Shepherd00:You've just, with the way you tagged my friends up there, reminded me of watching WWE, with a team of two or more wrestlers, taking turns, competing against one wrestler on another team. Shepherd00:You havent proven yourself worthy to be or qualify to be, in the know, yet of it Shepherd00:Yeah, there is a link, but thats for me to know but for you, to go find out Shepherd00:Nah, dont want to, you'll get miserable and depressed if I do, and I dont want that for you Shepherd00. Shepherd00:I earlier asked you that, do you know who originally from the real meaning, before it got changed to homosexual, is a sodomite, as in, what is sodomy Shepherd00? but you replied back with: should we now leave the Act and what the Lord says about it to talk about the name and who coined it or changed it? and that the real meaning is Men having sex with men, further telling me, call it whatever, the meaning will not change. This is an ignoranus statement to make and you seem delighting in your ignorance of what sodomy or sodomite, originally and truly means Shepherd00:"20Then the LORD said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great. Because their sin is so grievous, 21I will go down to see if their actions fully justify the outcry that has reached Me. If not, I will find out.”" - Genesis 18:20 SMH, this guy really doesnt know his Bible sha Shepherd00:It is called restoration and part of the Gospel Shepherd00:Siddon there, bin dey ask me. OK? Shepherd00:I have Shepherd00:I know I have, but you obviously havent read when and where. You dont like long posts |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 5:49pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Shepherd00: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: @Shepherd00 I told you.... ![]() ![]() |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 9:10pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:This will be my last reply to you. Let everyone who reads what we have posted here deduce the truth. It's useless going on with this. There are two kind of persons on earth; Those who say to God, 'Let your Will be done'. And, those to whom God will say, 'Alright then, have it your own way. MuttleyLaff:How convenient. You left out Homosexuality which the Bible mentioned as what led to the land vomiting its inhabitants. Have it your own way. MuttleyLaff:If I trample over it, others may not. So, you dey fear me? Have it your own way. MuttleyLaff:Do you want me to repost from the sites you guys gather to convince yourselves that God loves homosex and that David and Jonathan were lovers, and that Jesus and John were lovers? Shd I post it? MuttleyLaff, have it your own way. MuttleyLaff:Mpho Andrea Tutu-van Furth is the daughter of Bishop Desmond Tutu who is a lesbian? So? Her father is an Anglican Bishop who ordains homosexuals as Bishops and Viccahs. But, who is she? A great missionary to the nation's carrying the gospel of Christ to far and near lands, yet homosexual, right? Clap yourself. MuttleyLaff:You interjecting with these examples implies that you mean to present homosexuals mouth to mouth kisses with the philio cheek Peking as the same. True or false? |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 10:05pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Lolzzzzz. Why must TV be the one to tell me? You are here now, yet I must reach out to TV01 to tell me what you believe is the right type of Homosexuality. MuttleyLaff, have it your own way. MuttleyLaff:How many times do I have to answer this? 1.I call sin, and abomination what God calls sin and abomination. 2. As Hetero-sex is a form of worship to Jehovah. Homosex is a form of worship to satan 3.It is Satan's sex pattern. God created human race to continue. Satan wants to kill, steal and destroy the earth. 4. Homosexuality is death and Useless to Man and the Universe. 5. It is a transgression of the Law, 'Go into the world and Multiply', and seeks to defeat the counsel, 'Have children and fill the earth God dearest it because IT IS UNCLEAN. UNNATURAL, VILE, AND ABOMINABLE. Read above. Unlike you who evades questions, ask me again, and I will tell you again. MuttleyLaff:MuttleyLaff. Which homosexual built a Church for the Israelites. Isaiah chapter what and verse what did God promised to recompense the homosexuals? Which passage of the Bible did Jesus Christ of Nazareth highly praised homosexuals above Hetero-sex? Can you answer for the sake of others? Have it your way. Answer or not, the truth remains bright. MuttleyLaff:But I mentioned tongue and lip sucking when I mentioned Jamal and his gay men. You mentioned these people, why did you if you didn't mean that they also sucked tongues and lips as Jamal Lyon did? MuttleyLaff:Lolzzzzz. Why not try and get your ass kicked to a curb? Liar. Have it your own way. The means determines the end. MuttleyLaff:Yet, you mention it to me. You don fear MuttleyLaff. Anyways, have it your own way. Jesus will patiently wait for us both. MuttleyLaff:Who is intimidated by whom now? Fear fear. MuttleyLaff:Have it your own way MuttleyLaff, but the Bible is there for those who wld read to see what sodomy or who the sodomites are, and what they do MuttleyLaff: What was this 'Sin?' Genesis 19:4-7 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.(I.e. have sex with them). And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, ~~~do not so wickedly.~~~ MuttleyLaff what is the sin in this context? The reads will make up their mines. But, you, have it your own way. MuttleyLaff:At this point, I genuinely feel sorry for you Muttley. Hmmm. MuttleyLaff:I'd ve asked that you led me there, but you could post other scriptures I'm capable of handling to me, but the scriptures where God promised to restore the homosexuals, where Christ highly praised the homosexuals etc, I am not efficient in Scriptures, so you won't. Have it your own way. Someone will read what we type here, pls be ready to.post he scriptures to them. This is my stance today, tomorrow and for ever, Homosexuality is an abomination, it is an abhorrent Act, it is unnatural, vile, unclean and useless to the human race and their Universe in general. It leads to death and extinction. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 10:08pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
openmine:He has only one Card left to play. Wait for it, very soon he'll say Jesus and John the Beloved were homo-lovers. MuttleyLaff is a N.W.O agent. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by OkCornel(m): 10:14pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
1 Timothy 1 v 8-11; 8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; Apostle Paul didn't count those who DEFILE THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND as righteous people... Now the million dollar question is...who was Paul referring to as those who DEFILE THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND? |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 10:58pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
openmine:He said 'Jesus Highly praised homosexuality above Heterosexuality, give out the passage nah, he said I'm not ready for that level of truth. Imaoo. He said God promised in the book of Isaiah to recompense the homosexuals and lift them from a minority to majority, give reference nah, he said I will trample on it. Let me say this again, I am glad this came up, I now know who MuttleyLaff really represent. MuttleyLaff is a lair, a falsifier of the gospel (Truth thief). He is proud and boastful, and calls evil good. All pastors except the ones who okays homosex, are fake, but only him and his gay community are right. The thunder wey go fire satan and his agents is under construction. make dem wait. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 10:59pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
openmine:Hahahahahahaha. That guy is a joke. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 11:08pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
OkCornel:MuttleyLaff will have you believe that those who engaged in sex with men in the Pagan Temples as a form of worship to satan, but 'there's this other one which is good and acceptable by God, that passage is not referring to them. As far as he is concerned, only when it is done in Pagan Temples that is counted as Sin, not when it is done at home. But, the Sodomites didn't attempt to do it in the Temple, neither did the men in Judges 19:22. MuttleyLaff is all about the name change, the location where it is done, but not the very act. Romans 1:31-32 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 11:35pm On Jun 13, 2019 |
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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:45am On Jun 14, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Good!! GRBR!!! It's like trash taking itself out. Good riddance to bad and homophobic rubbish. Less drama and complicated people. Thank you and good bye! Shepherd00:Well, you know what the truth, they'll say about you? They'll say, we knew you'll foxtrot, uniform, charlie, kilo yourself up, on your own Shepherd00:Please burn the bridge to this thread, so to stop yourself from crossing it ever again. Will miss you, not so oh greatly. Shepherd00:There are two kinds of people in the world, those who believe your comment just there above and those who dont Shepherd00:Please dont start again because I did not leave out the sort of homosexuality, which the Bible mentioned as what led to the land vomiting its inhabitants. You obviously have missed where I mentioned it or you didnt at all read my post and that wont be the first time. Well you cant turn round and say, it's my fault now, can you, especially when by your own very admission, you find it challenging putting effort, in reading other people's posts. Shepherd00:God has not given me the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind, and good judgment and of wise discretion. Shepherd00, if you breathe oxygen, I do not fear you. I fear no man. Shepherd00:How dare you Shepherd00 hmm? So you want me to give you a chance to besmirch the truth, hmm? Shepherd00:You are losing touch with reality because I dont know anything about all these allegations you are wrongly accusing me of, nor do I know what sites you are talking about. You definitely must be paranoid or something Shepherd00:If you want to give them free advertisement, of course go ahead, why not. I even might glean a thing or two from the site, for my cheese. Shepherd00:Yes and be warned though Shepherd00, that I am a stone and he who falls on this stone will be severely hurt and he, whom the stone falls, will be utterly crushed. Shepherd00:"... at the rate you are going on, you would get quite an education before the time you decide you've had enough for the day, to scurry back to that undergrowth abyss pit of hell, you crawled out under from. You will soon learn and know why jesusjnr never has the balls to engage me nor respond to simple easy straightforward and direct questions put to him by me." - Daddy Freeze Hails Pastor Abel Damina For Saying Women Can Wear Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 3:31pm On Apr 15 "Let them all ride with me, till the wheels break. It isnt called going for a spin, it’s called ride and get an education, because thats what dem jesusjnr, elated177, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15, Baddiezz, TV01, Shepherd00, ThothHermes etcetera will get. Efry day, efry day, monkey go leave home, go market, but one day, one day, hin go go, no go return back." - Re: An Open Letter To Daddy Freeze By Deji Yesufu by MuttleyLaff: 10:10pm On May 22 "I am consoled and glad you went online to get education on Alan Turing and Leo Varadkar. You no doubt found out their usefulness and benefits to society." - Re: Questions For Budaatum: How Can You Follow Jesus Without Believing In Him? by MuttleyLaff: 4:31pm On May 29 "By three methods we may learn wisdom, I've heard people say. First by reflection which is noblest, second, by imitation which is simplest, third by experience which is the bitterest, so for those objecting to and/or opposing the facts, I write it off for the naysayers as a life experience and getting education." - Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:23am On Jun 07 No, but rather clap for yourself because just like I do promise you and your sort, yall will be getting education, which you have been, as side the loads of info so far shared, you've actually been forced to go do on online researches, in order to find out things yourself. That is commendable Shepherd00, as in addition to what you've learned, directly or indirectly, from interacting on this thread, you've got to be in the know of information and knowledge you previously, didnt know or werent aware of, all from trying to get answers to questions I've put to you Asides, what you've learned about Alan Turing and Leo Varadkar, you now managed to find out who who else agrees with me on this, havent you? Now that you about Archbishop Desmond Tutu agreeing with me, did you at all managed to find out that, Mpho Andrea Tutu-van Furth, his daughter, was a Reverend Canon, was painful forced to give up her priestly ministry too? Shepherd00:False! Only a simple, small and narrow minded person will believe, think or say that's true Meet with me on my next post below, I will show you the Jamal proof of you lying like a cheap Persia rug. I will expose your lie. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:46am On Jun 14, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Its very simple, so I repeat myself that I have never kept it a secret what type of homosexuality is permissible. If TV01 could suss me out that much, you Shepherd00 is better off asking him to tell you, about what I say in that regard, because you know how to call out to him, on other matters, so why are you now all of a sudden shy asking him on this one? Shepherd00:I haven't lately, read nor come across such a discombobulated reply filled with gross misinformation such as this before. What a so pathetic excuse of an answer. SMH. Shepherd00:The thing about the truth, is, you can be standing right in front of the truth and not necessarily see it, and people only get it when they're ready to get it. The more you look and stare, the less you see Shepherd00:"You need help fast, you not only have homophobia disorder you also have a voyeuristic disorder, and these, on top of being a closet homosexual Whats with the fake sickness, huh? Tell, what specifically and why are you having this fake sickness at the thought of two men having sex of each other, hmm?" - Re: Questions For Budaatum: How Can You Follow Jesus Without Believing In Him? by MuttleyLaff: 10:40pm On May 12 "Sorry, pardon me. I forgot you are gay and see your act as normal. Maybe if you were straight or Homophobic, you'd ve understood what I mean. I watch empire I say Jamal and his men, I see them kiss themselves and I wonder if they are humans. It is sickening to say the least. But, what van I say, enjoy. There are too many women on earth for me to look at a fellow man. Thunder fire satan " - Re: Questions For Budaatum: How Can You Follow Jesus Without Believing In Him? by Shepherd00: 11:10pm On May 12 'Liar! Liar! Pants on Fire! Shepherd00, from the quotes and proofs shown above, you never mentioned tongue and lip sucking when you, at 11:10pm On May 12, mentioned Jamal and his gay men I told in post above, that I will show you the Jamal proof of you lying like a cheap Persia rug, that I will expose your lie. Shepherd00:Hmm, interesting, liar pot calling snow black Shepherd00:The time is not yet ripe for you to know Shepherd00 Shepherd00:Please tell me, what part of "you havent proven yourself worthy to be or qualify to be, in the know, yet of it" dont you seem to understand, erh? Abi kini gbogbo palapala yi bayi kẹ? Shepherd00: Shepherd00:It's not fear, fear nor about fear, if I said "Nah, dont want to, you'll get miserable and depressed if I do, and I dont want that for you Shepherd00". It's me looking out for you. You dont expect me to give you a loaded gun, or do you? Shepherd00:I have hinted to what and who the real sodomites or sodomy is. You can go on still believing what you erroneously have believed them to be Shepherd00:"yes Sodom and Gomorrah, has sexual immorality problems, but the fact still remains, that they were already earmarked for destruction and this primarily was for being inhospital. The decision to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah had already been made the attempted rape, the lusting after a neighbour's body and trying to have carnal knowledge without consent, that was insult upon injury, like adding salt to a wound. The city had already been decided to be destroyed before this their wicked, insensitive act and madness" - Re: Is Incest Not Human Law And Convention? by MuttleyLaff: 6:49pm On Mar 30 "Are you sure the narrative of Lot and the angels, had anything remotely at all, to do with same sex marriages or whatnot, hmm? It has nothing to do with SS marriage(s), but a great deal to do with, lusting after strange flesh, like going after something that isnt human beings, on top, planned and attempted gang rape, wanting to have carnal knowledge without consent, being wicked and evil and/or not being hospitable, friendly and welcoming to strangers or visitors" - Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:00am On Jun 04 "MuttleyLaff could The Lord be referring to inhospitable nature of these people or something worse? Oh, but I know you won't respond." - e: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 2:43pm On Jun 04 Shepherd00, you can still from the three above inverted commas above, at least, that you are asking a question that I have already answered. I at 7:00am On Jun 04 did give the answer to what the sin is to kkins25, you responded to the answer with all manner of disparaging remarks, which I didnt mind. "22You must not mistreat any widow or orphan. 23If you do mistreat them, and they cry out to Me in distress, I will surely hear their cry" - Exodus 22:22-23 "14Do not oppress a hired hand who is poor and needy, whether he is a brother or a foreigner residing in one of your towns. 15You are to pay his wages each day before sunset, because he is poor and depends on them. Otherwise he may cry out to the LORD against you, and you will be guilty of sin. " - Deuteronomy 24:14-15 Knowledge is everything. Read, study and research the Bible. When you dont do own home work on the Bible, this is exactly what happens, you will ask questions, like as if you're Nicodemus, that have glaring, plain to see, easily seen or noticed answers. I am now, going to write a bit more and further in detail about the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah including why it was planned to be destroyed, even before the men of the city's attempted gang rape of those angels that looked like human beings (i.e. angels that had the appearance of men) 1/ The clue, for the reason of their sin, can be found within the "outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great" text in Genesis 18:20. Shepherd00, the word, outcry, is a strong expression of anger and disapproval about something, made by a group of people or by the public. The bible uses the "outcry" word, as you can see, from at least Exodus 22:22-23 and Deuteronomy 24:14-15 above, to report the cries of people, those that are unfairly treated, those oppressed and those treated in a savage, unfriendly, unwelcoming, inhospitable and/or violent ways The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was continually and persistently being cruel, violent to others and being insensitive to the pain they cause others. Their time was up, when the outcry of the people and the land reached God 2/ Jesus in Matthew 10:14-15, even confirms, what the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah, was about, that its not renowned for its hospitality. Jesus never nor once, mentioned nor associated sexual sin with Sodom and Gomorrah, but he drew a special attention mention of inhospitality compared with Sodom and Gomorrah's case. 3/ Sodom and Gomorrah, should have being the least people to be behaving in this way because remember how in Genesis 14:1-17, God delivered them from been under the control of Chedorlaomer, yet they are unwelcoming to others, oppressing others, maltreating others etcetera I am sorry, time again isnt an ally, time no dey, there isnt time for me to continue doing justice to this Sodom and Gomorrah grievous sin palaver thing, but at least, you gained a lickle bit of education so far, you would admit. I surely will revisit the matter in the future, for sure as someone or even you, I trust will again bring it up Shepherd00:You genuinely should feel sorry for yourself, but never mind, dont worry, as one day, you will get all this on your own, and with tears streaming down your face, realising how you had it all wrong Shepherd00:I am patient with any that is ignorant but not with those who are proud of being ignorant Shepherd00. Shepherd00, you can't help men permanently, by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves Shepherd00:At least, try being informed, for a change, and not just opinionated c Goshen360, elated177, Image123, jesusjnr, luvmijeje, budaatum, Ranchhoddas, ThothHermes, VBCampaign, Michellekabod2, Baddiezz, Agrogbeide, kkins25, fykes, EmperorHarry, Heathen777, Ubenedictus, FOLYKAZE, Paraltero, alBHAGDADI, Maestro21, shadeyinka, HappyPagan, ujnwachukwu, OkCornel PS: You are distracting me from finishing replying to those TV01 outstanding posts. I dont have time as an ally and do have work to attend to. I had to abort responding to TV01, to attending to you because of your incessant screeching and snapping at my heels |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:50am On Jun 14, 2019 |
OkCornel:"For fornicators, for males who lie down with males, for kidnappers of free men, for liars, for oath breakers and for all things opposed to the sound teaching" - For fornicators, for males who lie down with males, for kidnappers of free men, for liars, for oath breakers and for all things opposed to the sound teaching Yes OkCornel, the money question is, who originally, before words in the Bible got changed from their actual and/or meanings, was/were Paul referring to in 1 Timothy 1:10, hmm? Shepherd00:1/ Why would I say Jesus and John the Beloved were homo-lovers, ehn? This is crazy, you really have lost the plot Shepherd00. 2/ What reason have you that would make me want to say that, hmm? I am waiting for your answers |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by kkins25(m): 9:45am On Jun 14, 2019 |
I have been doing a little research on this, it would seem that this debate would continue to rage for ages. My findings suggest that the Bible does not explicitly state that homosexuality is a sin. In fact, the term didn't exist until two centuries ago. I, Kkins25 am aware that Homosexuality is not just a thing of the mind, as even the Pilar of Christianity has stated here In Matthew 19:12, Jesus speaks of eunuchs who were born as such, eunuchs who were made so by others, and eunuchs who choose to live as such for the kingdom of heaven.Jesus's reference to eunuchs who were born as such has been interpreted by some commentators as having to do with homosexual orientation; My research has corroborated what muttley said : 1/ The clue, for the reason of their sin, can be found within the "outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great" text in Genesis 18:20. Shepherd00, the word, outcry, is a strong expression of anger and disapproval about something, made by a group of people or by the public. The bible uses the "outcry" word, as you can see, from at least Exodus 22:22-23 and Deuteronomy 24:14-15 above, to report the cries of people, those that are unfairly treated, those oppressed and those treated in a savage, unfriendly, unwelcoming, inhospitable and/or violent ways- https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/13#7931603 I didnt know that previously but i do now. Thanks to muttleylaff. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 10:31am On Jun 14, 2019 |
/\/\/\ Shepherd00 is going to go sulking over the above kkins25 comment, as he isn't going to like or enjoy reading it. Watch him and some haters, cast aspersions on that kkins25 comment. Everything thing, I write, can be fact checked, if only the will is there and if you don't hate reading long posts too, like some have openly admitted. When you serve people with food in groundnut pods, those that will eat and have their fill, like kkins25 did, will be there, but people like.... hmmm. kkins25, don't stop here, but please research on what really Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is all about and why the reason, that act is an abomination. If ambitious, then, delve into similar verses Paul wrote, like 1 Timothy 1:10, 1 corinthians 6:9 and Romans 1:26-27, to find the true and original meanings of the words used in them, that have since, being changed and have false misleading meanings. You have restored my faith in humans. It is because of the one person like you, the minority, that I write and do what I do. There is hope. Thank you my dear kind hearted sire. Welcome aboard, make your at home, there is plenty of room here, please find yourself a space. You will find that the view is worth you climbing on, there is a lot more to good views to see, from this altitude and/or height we stand at. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 11:02am On Jun 14, 2019 |
In Matthew 19:12, Jesus speaks of eunuchs who were born as such, eunuchs who were made so by others, and eunuchs who choose to live as such for the kingdom of heaven.Jesus's reference to eunuchs who were born as such has been interpreted by some COMMENTATORS as having to do with homosexual orientation;Hmmmm, wikipedia is now used as a platform to interpret the word of God same way it was used erroneously to interpret and define tithes as a tenth of one's income! ![]() ![]() ![]() When did "eunuchs" translate into homosexuals in Mathew 19:12? The worse part of it is the fact that OP who is meant to know that... "No scripture is of private interpretation" ....is busy supporting and doing his own 'cheerleader' work for some one who is wrongly quoting a scripture out of context just to give his already shattered ego some breather! Una welldone ohhh ![]() ![]() So any commentator can just show up and start quoting scriptures and some perceived believers,rather than test such spirits,would swallow their doctrines hook,line and sinker! ![]()
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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by OkCornel(m): 11:26am On Jun 14, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: The verse you quoted mentioned "males who like with males"... Isn't it disapproving homosexuality? Was homosexuality God's plan for humanity? |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 11:31am On Jun 14, 2019 |
OkCornel:Why are you prevaricating, what and why is it so difficult to answer my question first before you start going off on your tangent, hmm? Again, yes, OkCornel, the money question is, who originally, before words in the Bible got changed from their actual and/or meanings, was/were Paul referring to in 1 Timothy 1:10, hmm? Now please answer that first. Thank you. No, homosexuality isnt per se disapproving. Homosexuality in God's wisdom and omniscience is God's plan for humanity. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 11:35am On Jun 14, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Wahala dey ohhh See a pot calling a kettle black..... ...a cobra saying the mamba's venom is too poisonous ![]() You are tagging one a prevaricator when you have PHD honours in prevarication ![]() ![]() |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 11:40am On Jun 14, 2019 |
/\/\/\ # Ignore Mode ON |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by OkCornel(m): 11:42am On Jun 14, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Muttleylaff...did it occur to you I first asked the question on whom Paul was referring to in 1 Timothy 1 v 8-11 with regards to men who defile themselves with men? If it's not homosexuality...then what else is Paul speaking against? |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 11:46am On Jun 14, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:regurgitated words of a slain prevaricator! .....accusing one of what he is known for ![]() Truth is like bitter leaf,it will first disfigure your face before it goes in.....Deal with it! |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 11:50am On Jun 14, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Have you forgotten that kkins25 is an atheist hence the word of God is useless to him? lol |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 11:57am On Jun 14, 2019 |
OkCornel:and I agreed with you about it being the money questions and asked you about the original and true meanings of the words changed in Timothy and Corinthians from what Paul wrote and meant. You are either a JJC to this thread or like Shepherd00 haven't bothered to read what I've said here about your question |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 12:01pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
Shepherd00:You don't get it, do you. It has nothing to do with being atheist or not being atheist. It is about sticking your head out for the sake of facts, truth and what is right. It's attitudes and ignorances, the sort you harbour that pushes some atheism |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 12:04pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
kkins25:Good for you. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 12:07pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Ee dey pain am. Peele, ndo. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 12:11pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:kkins25 For fornicators, ~~~~for males who lie down with males, [have sex], for kidnappers of free men, for liars, for oath breakers and for all things opposed to the sound teaching[/i]" - For fornicators, for males who lie down with males, for kidnappers of free men, for liars, for oath breakers and for all things opposed to the sound teaching I don't have to answer you, I take time to respond to MuttleyLaff because he said he was a Christian, you are not so your opinions doesn't count. Whatever you believe that's for you. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 12:16pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Like I said, Have it your own way. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 12:25pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:E dey pain me say you be Homo? Hahahahahahahaha. Your life, your anus, your flames. |
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