Emaprince:
Before you start talking about team mates delivering in finals, remember that messi missed the first penalty in a cup final which totally killed his teams spirit.

So who are we to blame for that horrible miss? Aguero? Higuain?

Abimloaded:
I've always mentioned it that those who came up with the logic of winning in different leagues to prove a point are just doing so because their favourite player did it.

If we go by their logic, we can say Nicolas Anelka is better than David Villa & Raul Gonzalez of this world. Afterall, he's won it in different leagues while Raul & Villa were champions in Spain only. But randomly ask them who's better between Raul/Villa or Anelka, they'll easily know it's not Anelka. So far it's not Messi or Ronaldo, it's not about the leagues you have played in again, the standards will change.



If we go by International achievements, winning major trophies with the team, it's safe to say Pedro Rodriguez is better than Eden Hazard. Mikel Obi is better than Steven Gerrard. Yaya Toure is better than the likes of Frank Lampard, Michael Ballack, Pavel Neved since they have never won any major trophy with their National team. They are frauds. Since not winning any major trophy with your national team automatically qualifies you as a fraud.


At a time, the logic of he can't perform in EPL was the topic to flaw his brilliance. He hasn't scored against Chelsea. He hasn't scored against Buffon. He can't perform without Xavi & Iniesta. Well, he proved them wrong. If only they knew he'd score against all the EPL teams he's faced. [At least two goals]. He'd win the La Liga Golden boot & European golden boot back to back at the expense of their CR7 who doesn't need any midfielder to win the boots easily unlike Messi whose total life depends on Xavi & Iniesta. Finest midfielders whose combined assists can't match that of Lionel Messi who depends on them to score goals. Yet, he's still the leading player in term of assists and goals for his club & league. They even said he won't win the golden boot in EPL. Same EPL that Suarez who served a ban won the EPL golden boot & Eurpean golden boot. [Joint with Ronaldo ; 31 Goals]. Same EPL that the likes of Harry Kane & Aguero has won the golden boot several times. Players who've always wish they can be as good as Messi is.


I dunno which logic is left for this people to come with which favours their favourite player against Messi just to prove to us that he is the better player but I can bet they'd find another if Leo & his men ever win a trophy with Argentina. They surely would!


Lionel Messi has never won any major Trophy with Argentina at club level, fine, agreed. If only Ronaldo's Portugal have ever won any of the teams that defeated Messi's Argentina in the finals they lost.

It took Germany & Chile an extra time match & penalty shoot out respectively to defeat Argentina, but never took them 60mins to end Portugal's victory quest in an open play whenever they faced. If you doubt, Germany trashed Portugal 3-1 in 2006 with Ronaldo. Did the same in 2014 with 4-0 enroute to winning the WC. Chile dispatched Ronaldo's Portugal in last Confederations Cup.


Yes, there's an international trophy for Ronaldo with Portugal but until he completes the task of proving himself across different leagues by winning a single TREBLE in his club career, he is a FRAUD.

FYI; Messi has double of TREBLE.

Until he wins the MVP award at an International tournament, he's still a FRAUD riding on the coattails of his team mates.

FYI; Messi has numerous of it already.

Abimloaded:
I've always mentioned it that those who came up with the logic of winning in different leagues to prove a point are just doing so because their favourite player did it.

If we go by their logic, we can say Nicolas Anelka is better than David Villa & Raul Gonzalez of this world. Afterall, he's won it in different leagues while Raul & Villa were champions in Spain only. But randomly ask them who's better between Raul/Villa or Anelka, they'll easily know it's not Anelka. So far it's not Messi or Ronaldo, it's not about the leagues you have played in again, the standards will change.



If we go by International achievements, winning major trophies with the team, it's safe to say Pedro Rodriguez is better than Eden Hazard. Mikel Obi is better than Steven Gerrard. Yaya Toure is better than the likes of Frank Lampard, Michael Ballack, Pavel Neved since they have never won any major trophy with their National team. They are frauds. Since not winning any major trophy with your national team automatically qualifies you as a fraud.


At a time, the logic of he can't perform in EPL was the topic to flaw his brilliance. He hasn't scored against Chelsea. He hasn't scored against Buffon. He can't perform without Xavi & Iniesta. Well, he proved them wrong. If only they knew he'd score against all the EPL teams he's faced. [At least two goals]. He'd win the La Liga Golden boot & European golden boot back to back at the expense of their CR7 who doesn't need any midfielder to win the boots easily unlike Messi whose total life depends on Xavi & Iniesta. Finest midfielders whose combined assists can't match that of Lionel Messi who depends on them to score goals. Yet, he's still the leading player in term of assists and goals for his club & league. They even said he won't win the golden boot in EPL. Same EPL that Suarez who served a ban won the EPL golden boot & Eurpean golden boot. [Joint with Ronaldo ; 31 Goals]. Same EPL that the likes of Harry Kane & Aguero has won the golden boot several times. Players who've always wish they can be as good as Messi is.


I dunno which logic is left for this people to come with which favours their favourite player against Messi just to prove to us that he is the better player but I can bet they'd find another if Leo & his men ever win a trophy with Argentina. They surely would!


Lionel Messi has never won any major Trophy with Argentina at club level, fine, agreed. If only Ronaldo's Portugal have ever won any of the teams that defeated Messi's Argentina in the finals they lost.

It took Germany & Chile an extra time match & penalty shoot out respectively to defeat Argentina, but never took them 60mins to end Portugal's victory quest in an open play whenever they faced. If you doubt, Germany trashed Portugal 3-1 in 2006 with Ronaldo. Did the same in 2014 with 4-0 enroute to winning the WC. Chile dispatched Ronaldo's Portugal in last Confederations Cup.


Yes, there's an international trophy for Ronaldo with Portugal but until he completes the task of proving himself across different leagues by winning a single TREBLE in his club career, he is a FRAUD.

FYI; Messi has double of TREBLE.

Until he wins the MVP award at an International tournament, he's still a FRAUD riding on the coattails of his team mates.

FYI; Messi has numerous of it already.

snrman:
Hello cules.
We should all ignore all those trolls cus every thread has 1.
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Very important question to fellow cules.
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Neymar may likey return to barca but with the signing of Griezman our wage bill will b too much.
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Which players should b sacrificed ?

tesppidd:
Lol

I wonder why you didn't use Higuain for your example.

Emaprince:
The higuain I saw at Chelsea is a nightmare bro

GoTV:



When they ran out of adjectives to hype Ronaldo, they said he's handsome, a model with good stature while messi is a midget. They said he's more complete because he scores with head and shoot but messi can only score with the help of Iniesta, Xavi.

Later after Xavi, Iniesta they said Neymar was responsible for assisting him with goals. After they said he should leave barca for another league.

I only blame the media for creating this unnecessary rivalry. Ronaldo the self acclaimed goals machine is leveled with a messi they called incomplete at 600+ goals despite having over 120 appearances ahead of messi.

Even if Messi fails to win anything in Argentina, he's still the greatest of this generation

Abimloaded:
I've always mentioned it that those who came up with the logic of winning in different leagues to prove a point are just doing so because their favourite player did it.

If we go by their logic, we can say Nicolas Anelka is better than David Villa & Raul Gonzalez of this world. Afterall, he's won it in different leagues while Raul & Villa were champions in Spain only. But randomly ask them who's better between Raul/Villa or Anelka, they'll easily know it's not Anelka. So far it's not Messi or Ronaldo, it's not about the leagues you have played in again, the standards will change.



If we go by International achievements, winning major trophies with the team, it's safe to say Pedro Rodriguez is better than Eden Hazard. Mikel Obi is better than Steven Gerrard. Yaya Toure is better than the likes of Frank Lampard, Michael Ballack, Pavel Neved since they have never won any major trophy with their National team. They are frauds. Since not winning any major trophy with your national team automatically qualifies you as a fraud.


At a time, the logic of he can't perform in EPL was the topic to flaw his brilliance. He hasn't scored against Chelsea. He hasn't scored against Buffon. He can't perform without Xavi & Iniesta. Well, he proved them wrong. If only they knew he'd score against all the EPL teams he's faced. [At least two goals]. He'd win the La Liga Golden boot & European golden boot back to back at the expense of their CR7 who doesn't need any midfielder to win the boots easily unlike Messi whose total life depends on Xavi & Iniesta. Finest midfielders whose combined assists can't match that of Lionel Messi who depends on them to score goals. Yet, he's still the leading player in term of assists and goals for his club & league. They even said he won't win the golden boot in EPL. Same EPL that Suarez who served a ban won the EPL golden boot & Eurpean golden boot. [Joint with Ronaldo ; 31 Goals]. Same EPL that the likes of Harry Kane & Sergio Aguero have both won the golden boot several times. Players who've always wish they can be as good as Messi is.


I dunno which logic is left for this people to come with which favours their favourite player against Messi just to prove to us that he is the better player but I can bet they'd find another if Leo & his men ever win a trophy with Argentina. They surely would!


Lionel Messi has never won any major Trophy with Argentina, fine, agreed. If only Ronaldo's Portugal have ever won any of the teams that defeated Messi's Argentina in the finals they lost.

It took Germany & Chile an extra time match & penalty shoot out respectively to defeat Argentina in the final, but never took them 60mins to end Portugal's victory quest in an open play whenever they faced. If you doubt, Germany trashed Portugal 3-1 in 2006 with Ronaldo. Did the same in 2014 with 4-0 enroute to winning the WC. Chile dispatched Ronaldo's Portugal in last Confederations Cup.


Yes, there's an international trophy for Ronaldo with Portugal but until he completes the task of proving himself across different leagues by winning a single TREBLE in his club career, he is a FRAUD.

FYI; Messi has double of TREBLE.

Until he wins the MVP award at an International tournament, he's still a FRAUD riding on the coattails of his team mates.

FYI; Messi has numerous of it already.

Abimloaded:
I've always mentioned it that those who came up with the logic of winning in different leagues to prove a point are just doing so because their favourite player did it.

If we go by their logic, we can say Nicolas Anelka is better than David Villa & Raul Gonzalez of this world. Afterall, he's won it in different leagues while Raul & Villa were champions in Spain only. But randomly ask them who's better between Raul/Villa or Anelka, they'll easily know it's not Anelka. So far it's not Messi or Ronaldo, it's not about the leagues you have played in again, the standards will change.



If we go by International achievements, winning major trophies with the team, it's safe to say Pedro Rodriguez is better than Eden Hazard. Mikel Obi is better than Steven Gerrard. Yaya Toure is better than the likes of Frank Lampard, Michael Ballack, Pavel Neved since they have never won any major trophy with their National team. They are frauds. Since not winning any major trophy with your national team automatically qualifies you as a fraud.


At a time, the logic of he can't perform in EPL was the topic to flaw his brilliance. He hasn't scored against Chelsea. He hasn't scored against Buffon. He can't perform without Xavi & Iniesta. Well, he proved them wrong. If only they knew he'd score against all the EPL teams he's faced. [At least two goals]. He'd win the La Liga Golden boot & European golden boot back to back at the expense of their CR7 who doesn't need any midfielder to win the boots easily unlike Messi whose total life depends on Xavi & Iniesta. Finest midfielders whose combined assists can't match that of Lionel Messi who depends on them to score goals. Yet, he's still the leading player in term of assists and goals for his club & league. They even said he won't win the golden boot in EPL. Same EPL that Suarez who served a ban won the EPL golden boot & Eurpean golden boot. [Joint with Ronaldo ; 31 Goals]. Same EPL that the likes of Harry Kane & Sergio Aguero have both won the golden boot several times. Players who've always wish they can be as good as Messi is.


I dunno which logic is left for this people to come with which favours their favourite player against Messi just to prove to us that he is the better player but I can bet they'd find another if Leo & his men ever win a trophy with Argentina. They surely would!


Lionel Messi has never won any major Trophy with Argentina, fine, agreed. If only Ronaldo's Portugal have ever won any of the teams that defeated Messi's Argentina in the finals they lost.

It took Germany & Chile an extra time match & penalty shoot out respectively to defeat Argentina in the final, but never took them 60mins to end Portugal's victory quest in an open play whenever they faced. If you doubt, Germany trashed Portugal 3-1 in 2006 with Ronaldo. Did the same in 2014 with 4-0 enroute to winning the WC. Chile dispatched Ronaldo's Portugal in last Confederations Cup.


Yes, there's an international trophy for Ronaldo with Portugal but until he completes the task of proving himself across different leagues by winning a single TREBLE in his club career, he is a FRAUD.

FYI; Messi has double of TREBLE.

Until he wins the MVP award at an International tournament, he's still a FRAUD riding on the coattails of his team mates.

FYI; Messi has numerous of it already.

Abimloaded:
I've always mentioned it that those who came up with the logic of winning in different leagues to prove a point are just doing so because their favourite player did it.

If we go by their logic, we can say Nicolas Anelka is better than David Villa & Raul Gonzalez of this world. Afterall, he's won it in different leagues while Raul & Villa were champions in Spain only. But randomly ask them who's better between Raul/Villa or Anelka, they'll easily know it's not Anelka. So far it's not Messi or Ronaldo, it's not about the leagues you have played in again, the standards will change.



If we go by International achievements, winning major trophies with the team, it's safe to say Pedro Rodriguez is better than Eden Hazard. Mikel Obi is better than Steven Gerrard. Yaya Toure is better than the likes of Frank Lampard, Michael Ballack, Pavel Neved since they have never won any major trophy with their National team. They are frauds. Since not winning any major trophy with your national team automatically qualifies you as a fraud.


At a time, the logic of he can't perform in EPL was the topic to flaw his brilliance. He hasn't scored against Chelsea. He hasn't scored against Buffon. He can't perform without Xavi & Iniesta. Well, he proved them wrong. If only they knew he'd score against all the EPL teams he's faced. [At least two goals]. He'd win the La Liga Golden boot & European golden boot back to back at the expense of their CR7 who doesn't need any midfielder to win the boots easily unlike Messi whose total life depends on Xavi & Iniesta. Finest midfielders whose combined assists can't match that of Lionel Messi who depends on them to score goals. Yet, he's still the leading player in term of assists and goals for his club & league. They even said he won't win the golden boot in EPL. Same EPL that Suarez who served a ban won the EPL golden boot & Eurpean golden boot. [Joint with Ronaldo ; 31 Goals]. Same EPL that the likes of Harry Kane & Sergio Aguero have both won the golden boot several times. Players who've always wish they can be as good as Messi is.


I dunno which logic is left for this people to come with which favours their favourite player against Messi just to prove to us that he is the better player but I can bet they'd find another if Leo & his men ever win a trophy with Argentina. They surely would!


Lionel Messi has never won any major Trophy with Argentina, fine, agreed. If only Ronaldo's Portugal have ever won any of the teams that defeated Messi's Argentina in the finals they lost.

It took Germany & Chile an extra time match & penalty shoot out respectively to defeat Argentina in the final, but never took them 60mins to end Portugal's victory quest in an open play whenever they faced. If you doubt, Germany trashed Portugal 3-1 in 2006 with Ronaldo. Did the same in 2014 with 4-0 enroute to winning the WC. Chile dispatched Ronaldo's Portugal in last Confederations Cup.


Yes, there's an international trophy for Ronaldo with Portugal but until he completes the task of proving himself across different leagues by winning a single TREBLE in his club career, he is a FRAUD.

FYI; Messi has double of TREBLE.

Until he wins the MVP award at an International tournament, he's still a FRAUD riding on the coattails of his team mates.

FYI; Messi has numerous of it already.

IKON360:

When they bring the issue of Messi should Barca, I ask them, Ronaldo at Man utd was the highest earning player, Ronaldo at Real Madrid was the highest earning player, Ronaldo at Juventus is the highest earning player, Ronaldo was/is the highest earning player of all these teams. Messi at Barcelona is among the highest earning players in football, in fact Messi earns a bigger salary than Ronaldo and even earned more generally than Ronaldo this year. So money is definitely not the motivation.
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Ronaldo left Madrid cos he wasn't appreciated enough, Messi is being worshipped at Barca. If Messi scores Barca fans start bowing, if Ronaldo scores, Madrid fans will take it anyhow, if he plays badly, they start booing him, Imagine!!
When Xavi, Puyol, Iniesta, Abidal, Mascherano, D Alves all left the board threw huge celebrations to celebrate exceptional players who contributed to Barca. When Ronaldo left Madrid, they did NOTHING!!! A player that shattered every record the club had, a player that was the highest goalscorer in 3 consecutive UCL tourneys. If Ronaldo comes to Barca and plays 1 season the way fans will celebrate him when he goes, you will be shocked.
Messi in Barca is earning more than 99% of footballers, in a club that worships the ground he steps on and a league that is easily the best in the world and a club that saved him from a serious health issue. Messi will never leave Barca, in fact he thinks he still owes Barca sef.

Abimloaded:


But but but our football analysts want him to leave Barcelona for another league just to prove himself. Like there exists a club from any country that hasn't faced the rage and wrath of Lionel Messi!

They want him to win an International trophy because David Beckham, Paul Scholes , Luis Figo , Ryan Giggs , Raul Gonzalez won an international trophy for their country.

IKON360:

It's like GoTV said, Messi is a victim of his brilliance. Man is so good people except him to do everything and win everything. But it's not possible, football is a team sport. All the teams that have won the World Cup from 1998 till date has had exceptional midfielders and defenders. In fact World Cup is won by midfielders and defenders, Argentina reached the finals having an unusually tight defense. But this Argentina, can't even keep clean sheet against West Ham...

GoTV:




A reasonable football fan would know that in this game you can't win it all.


Pedro of Chelsea has won almost every trophy in football but can he ever win the balloon do'r that messi and Ronaldo won five times? This is a guy that has won World Cup that messi and Ronaldo still hopes to win.

No one can have it all. I keep saying that if Messi wins nothing in Argentina it changes nothing about his football prowess. He remains the best.

Haters downplayed the Olympic gold he won with Argentina as a junior trophy yet their Ronaldo never won it despite playing for Portugal at the junior level.


Atlanta 96 trophy that our legends kanu and okocha celebrates till this day is the same Olympic trophy Messi won. Yet they said he won nothing with Argentina as if junior and senior Argentina teams represents different countries. Haters will always hate messi bro

Melvyn11:
Bwhahaha Barca fans are delusional and also believe their lies lol.

Ronaldo Dominated not one but two leagues

Won balon dor in 2 freaking leagues

Finished top scorer in 2 freaking leagues

Won European golden boot in 2 freaking leagues

Won champions league in 2 freaking leagues

Finished Ucl top scorer in 2 freaking leagues

Set and broke countless records in both the Spanish and English league.

Mr champions league All the records dey him hand

Your Goat is a la liga merchant. Playing the same teams for over 11years. What trophies has messi won outside Barca nothing?

Melvyn11:
Bwhahaha Barca fans are delusional and also believe their lies lol.

Ronaldo Dominated not one but two leagues

Won balon dor in 2 freaking leagues

Finished top scorer in 2 freaking leagues

Won European golden boot in 2 freaking leagues

Won champions league in 2 freaking leagues

Finished Ucl top scorer in 2 freaking leagues

Set and broke countless records in both the Spanish and English league.

Mr champions league All the records dey him hand

Your Goat is a la liga merchant. Playing the same teams for over 11years. What trophies has messi won outside Barca nothing?

HIRAETH:
Dembouz
BREAKING: According to the reliable globosport, FC Barcelona are willing to offer €100m + Dembele, Rakitic & Umtiti to PSG to get Neymar back.

randomperson:


It's easy to cherry pick stats that suit your position.

Messi has 941 combined goals and assists while Ronaldo has 907 and Ronaldo has played almost 150 games more than Messi. That's about 12,000 additional minutes of football. But by your own special brand of intelligence Ronaldo is the superior player.

Yes Ronaldo has played in different leagues but he always chooses to join the best team in those leagues. From Man utd to Madrid to Juventus, that's not a challenge, that's a well calculated formula for the easiest routes to glory.

Messi, on the other hand, was good enough at 13 years old to be signed by Barca and for the club to commit to paying for his treatment, good enough at 17 to be promoted to the Barca's first team, good enough at 32 to be the best player in the world and yet loyal enough to stick with the club even in its rough times.

Ronaldo is the striker for portugal, he has played in three finals and he didn't scored any goal in the final. But let's crucify Messi for not scoring in finals even though he plays as an attacking midfielder for his team.

Ronaldo has been to about eight international tournaments but has not won a single Golden ball or MVP with the team. In fact, his teammates sometimes even win the best player award at his expense.

But Messi that has won multiple best player awards at tournaments with Argentina is the one that is underperforming.

I could continue but what's the point?

randomperson:


It's easy to cherry pick stats that suit your position.

Messi has 941 combined goals and assists while Ronaldo has 907 and Ronaldo has played almost 150 games more than Messi. That's about 12,000 additional minutes of football. But by your own special brand of intelligence Ronaldo is the superior player.

Yes Ronaldo has played in different leagues but he always chooses to join the best team in those leagues. From Man utd to Madrid to Juventus, that's not a challenge, that's a well calculated formula for the easiest routes to glory.

Messi, on the other hand, was good enough at 13 years old to be signed by Barca and for the club to commit to paying for his treatment, good enough at 17 to be promoted to the Barca's first team, good enough at 32 to be the best player in the world and yet loyal enough to stick with the club even in its rough times.

Ronaldo is the striker for portugal, he has played in three finals and he didn't scored any goal in the final. But let's crucify Messi for not scoring in finals even though he plays as an attacking midfielder for his team.

Ronaldo has been to about eight international tournaments but has not won a single Golden ball or MVP with the team. In fact, his teammates sometimes even win the best player award at his expense.

But Messi that has won multiple best player awards at tournaments with Argentina is the one that is underperforming.

I could continue but what's the point?

Melvyn11:

Cherry pick what stats? Nothing you typed is related to my post Did you see any stats in my post like goals or assist or pure facts on how Ronaldo won everything in world football with 2 different teams from individual to team achievement. How many players who has gone from clubs to clubs has achieved that. Went to the National team won trophies and he is also currently the highest scoring player on international duty still active. Who won golden boot for the just concluded nations league? Yes Ronaldo take your L. Has Messi ever won golden boot for any senior tournament with Argentina? None but MVP that has no criteria or rules to follow just who the organizers feel like giving is what you are jumping about. Show us Messi golden boot with Argentina

Melvyn11:

I wonder why many other players are not taken the calculated formula for the easiest routes to glory like you said to win balon dor, champions league,Top scorer, European golden boot with 2 different teams. Please name one player.

Swissh:

They think it's just by going to another league to Win it and that's all. Dominate the league like Ronaldo did by winning all the trophies including the champions league then the balon door and all the individual award. Ronaldo did that in 2 leagues .

tesppidd:
It's not about many players.

It's about Messi and Ronaldo.

And you guys are trying to ram it into everyone's head that Ronaldo is better than Messi simply because Man U and Madrid did not consider him INDISPENSABLE and let his asss move on.

Unlike how Barca consider Messi UNTOUCHABLE AND INDISPENSABLE.
Barca could never let Messi go.
Even for 1 billion Euros.

We all know that if Messi cared about "proving himself" to anyone, he could have moved on to win titles and awards at Bayern and Man City.

Melvyn11:
Bwhahaha Barca fans are delusional and also believe their lies lol.

Ronaldo Dominated not one but two leagues

Won balon dor in 2 freaking leagues

Finished top scorer in 2 freaking leagues

Won European golden boot in 2 freaking leagues

Won champions league in 2 freaking leagues

Finished Ucl top scorer in 2 freaking leagues

Set and broke countless records in both the Spanish and English league.

Mr champions league All the records dey him hand

Your Goat is a la liga merchant. Playing the same teams for over 11years. What trophies has messi won outside Barca nothing?

tesppidd:
Like i said before it is not about Ronaldo and other players, but about Ronaldo and Messi.

The only league that connects Messi and Ronaldo is the Spanish La Liga.
That's the common denominator of judgement.


So tell us, how did Ronaldo dominate Messi in the Spanish league?

Tell us please.

HIRAETH:
Dembouz
BREAKING: According to the reliable globosport, FC Barcelona are willing to offer €100m + Dembele, Rakitic & Umtiti to PSG to get Neymar back.

Melvyn11:

Has Messi done it? Has Messi won balon dor with 2 clubs or champions league.
You are always speaking in if language. If this or if that rather than facts. We don't know shitt how many trophies has he won with Argentina? I thought as much. The only place he has played for apart from Barca is Argentina and he has not Won anything....!