IKON360:

Suarez is now injury prone, Neymar is injury prone Messi gets injured once in a while... They should try to sign Griezman, Neymar is a 2nd project. We got to Semi without Neymar, a striker to convert chances will take us to finals and lift the trophy. I saw some statistics last two weeks, this Barca side is the least scoring of the past 5 years, with Valverde's 1st the worst. Now if you look at chances created to convert ion ratio you will one thing, we create tons of chances, but we don't convert them. Thats why I don't really blame Valverde, had it been we didn't create chances it would have been different but even against Liverpool both legs we created so many chances that Suarez of 3 years ago would have scored but Messi, Suarez, Dembele and Coutinho contrived to miss them all. A new striker and a willingness of the midfielders to get into scoring positions will help the team a while lot...

Seconded.

IKON360:

That's better now Ronaldo is a good baller, always has been. I agree that he won almost everything there was to win in Madrid but if Madrid had treated him better, he won't have left. He didn't leave Madrid cos he wanted to challenge himself at Juventus, that's a lie. He left cos Perez didn't want to improve his salary like Messi's had been improved. And the club didn't value him like Messi is valued by Barca. Imagine he left and the club deleted all his records. Ramos didn't even invite him for his wedding but invited Pique!!! If Madrid had treated Ronaldo better, he won't have left... For me, since 2000 till now, no player has done more for Madrid than Ronaldo yet see how he was treated.
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Messi in Barca is a whole new ball game, every player wants to be his pal or be associated with him. In fact did you notice that every player we buy always says Messi is the best player in the world. The club always honour its greats. That's why Messi can't leave Barca, and they pay him very well. Will you leave a job you earning very well in so well that any time you want to get an increased salary you get it? I don't think so

How about, no player has been offered more than what Madrid gave to him? Do you know how much the club paid PR agents to campaign for him to win at least 2 Balons? Do you know players and coaches had it in their contracts to say he is the best player in the world? He is a great player no doubt, but the Club did more for him than he did for them. He did not in any way improve the team and the way they played, rather it was the team that played for him.

HIRAETH:
Dembouz
BREAKING: According to the reliable globosport, FC Barcelona are willing to offer €100m + Dembele, Rakitic & Umtiti to PSG to get Neymar back.

Yen, yen, yen.


Barça can't be that stupid. I know bartomeu and his gang are absolutely useless and annoying, but even they won't do such.

I still maintain, Barça won't sell Dembele. We may sell Phil, but not Dembouz. All these kinds of rumors don't get to me

Dembouz, worst case, 70m
Ivan, let's say, 50m
Samuel, let's degrade him to 50m too.

170 + 100 = 270, for a player we sold 220m 2 years ago?


c'mon guys, don't get worked up unnecessarily.


Even if the deal will happen, only one of those 3 players can go, and it can't be Dembele. Ever!

Melvyn11:

I have always said I don't mind Messi staying at Barca all his career that's his business. But how dare you say a player who has achieved only with a particular club all his career playing the same system since 13 is better than a player who has won it all both individually and collectively not just at one club but at two including his country. That's pure delusion I swear. Most players don't even achieve that at one club talkless of doing it in two and now he has gone to another club to do the same thing wow. That's what makes Ororo a Goat and better player.

I always laugh at the wisdom with this sort of analogy. A player that is good will perform anywhere and will win trophies if surrounded by equally good players. It is not like CR7 played in small teams all his career or with mediocre players. He was a part of the best United team of the last 20yrs or so. You mean to tell me had Messi played in England for United, moved to Madrid and now to Juve, he would not have won many trophies along the way considering his immense talents? Or imagine Ronaldo in Barca for 13-15yrs;you mean with how good he is, he would not have won many trophies with the team? Your point is like asking the best student in Havard to move to Uniben to prove to the world how good he is.

Thank you mynd4.4 for banning those who can't engage in conversations without insults. If we all decide to tow that line then the purpose of this thread will be defeated

Watching Japan play in the Copa America shamelessly.
COMMEBOL the real ones for this.

Mcleo007:



How about, no player has been offered more than what Madrid gave to him? Do you know how much the club paid PR agents to campaign for him to win at least 2 Balons? Do you know players and coaches had it in their contracts to say he is the best player in the world? He is a great player no doubt, but the Club did more for him than he did for them. He did not in any way improve the team and the way they played, rather it was the team that played for him.

Bwhahahaha tesppidd please come and carry your brother.

Mcleo007:



I always laugh at the wisdom with this sort of analogy. A player that is good will perform anywhere and will win trophies if surrounded by equally good players. It is not like CR7 played in small teams all his career or with mediocre players. He was a part of the best United team of the last 20yrs or so. You mean to tell me had Messi played in England for United, moved to Madrid and now to Juve, he would not have won many trophies along the way considering his immense talents? Or imagine Ronaldo in Barca for 13-15yrs;you mean with how good he is, he would not have won many trophies with the team? Your point is like asking the best student in Havard to move to Uniben to prove to the world how good he is.

Like the many trophies he has won with Argentina

Mcleo007:



I always laugh at the wisdom with this sort of analogy. A player that is good will perform anywhere and will win trophies if surrounded by equally good players. It is not like CR7 played in small teams all his career or with mediocre players. He was a part of the best United team of the last 20yrs or so. You mean to tell me had Messi played in England for United, moved to Madrid and now to Juve, he would not have won many trophies along the way considering his immense talents? Or imagine Ronaldo in Barca for 13-15yrs;you mean with how good he is, he would not have won many trophies with the team? Your point is like asking the best student in Havard to move to Uniben to prove to the world how good he is.

Baba stop your imagination and come back to reality. Your comparism makes no sense.

Mcleo007:



I always laugh at the wisdom with this sort of analogy. A player that is good will perform anywhere and will win trophies if surrounded by equally good players. It is not like CR7 played in small teams all his career or with mediocre players. He was a part of the best United team of the last 20yrs or so. You mean to tell me had Messi played in England for United, moved to Madrid and now to Juve, he would not have won many trophies along the way considering his immense talents? Or imagine Ronaldo in Barca for 13-15yrs;you mean with how good he is, he would not have won many trophies with the team? Your point is like asking the best student in Havard to move to Uniben to prove to the world how good he is.

Seriously the people just give undue importance to certain trivialities.

Even if Bartholomew Ogbeche or Douglas played for the Juventus of today, he will win Serie A.

If Bartholomew Ogbejche or Douglas played for the Manchester United of 2006 to 2008, he will win the EPL.

If Bartholomew Ogbeche and Douglas played for the Madrid of 2010 to 2015, he will win la liga no less than Ronaldo won it.


It's so lame to tell us that winning titles with Man U, Madrid and Juve is proving yourself.


Ronaldo needs to prove himself in the following clubs;

EPL - Everton
La Liga- Getafe
Serie A - Atalanta
Africa - Memolodi Sundowns
South America - Sao Paolo.

Then his journeying will be worthwhile and we will agree he is better than Messi the so called one-club man.

Melvyn11:

Bwhahahaha tesppidd please come and carry your brother.

I wouldn't be surprised if that clause does exist.

Must declare Ronaldo the best before getting signed!

Pls u guys should stop arguing with slowpokes


If you want to know how really good messi is. Ask top sports Analyst, coaches , top pundits and a handful of top players. Infact 80% will pick messi over Ronaldo

tesppidd:
Seriously the people just give undue importance to certain trivialities.

Even if Bartholomew Ogbeche or Douglas played for the Juventus of today, he will win Serie A.

If Bartholomew Ogbejche or Douglas played for the Manchester United of 2006 to 2008, he will win the EPL.

If Bartholomew Ogbeche and Douglas played for the Madrid of 2010 to 2015, he will win la liga no less than Ronaldo won it.


It's so lame to tell us that winning titles with Man U, Madrid and Juve is proving yourself.


Ronaldo needs to prove himself in the following clubs;

EPL - Everton
La Liga- Getafe
Serie A - Atalanta
Africa - Memolodi Sundowns
South America - Sao Paolo.

Then his journeying will be worthwhile and we will agree he is better than Messi the so called one-club man.

Because Bartholomew Ogbeche will also win the league, champions league,PFA best player,Top scorer, European golden boot and balon dor then go to another team in another league and do it all over again. Don't let thunder fire you my friend.

Melvyn11:


Because Bartholomew Ogbeche will also win the league, champions league,PFA best player,Top scorer, European golden boot and balon dor then go to another team in another league and do it all over again. Don't let thunder fire you my friend.

Okay let me get you all over again!

Not just titles but personal awards too!


So If a player wins 3 ballon dors with Man U, Juve and Madrid, he is superior to another who wins 3 ballon dors at just one club?

tesppidd:
Okay let me get you all over again!

Not just titles but personal awards too!


So If a player wins 3 ballon dors with Man U, Juve and Madrid, he is superior to another who wins 3 ballon dors at just one club?

You and this your if language tesppidd. Say it as it is

Ronaldo who has won all the individual,Collective awards and trophies with two teams in two different league is a superior to Messi. Why?

Because King ororo has shown that he is not a one team player and that he can replicate his success and performance in any team.

Melvyn11:

You and this your if language tesppidd. Say it as it is

Ronaldo who has won all the individual,Collective awards and trophies with two teams in two different league is a superior to Messi. Why?

Because King ororo has shown that he is not a one team player and that he can replicate his success and performance in any team.

Gbam. Case closed and dismissed.

Melvyn11:

You and this your if language tesppidd. Say it as it is

Ronaldo who has won all the individual,Collective awards and trophies with two teams in two different league is a superior to Messi. Why?

Because King ororo has shown that he is not a one team player and that he can replicate his success and performance in any team.

Shown whom exactly?

So because Machester United saw big money and shipped him off to Madrid for the doe you converted it to shown?

So because Madrid called his bluff and dumped his asss you want to convert it to shown?

So because Eder won him the Euros you have converted it to shown?


Get da fuuckkk out of here!

Melvyn11:

You and this your if language tesppidd. Say it as it is

Ronaldo who has won all the individual,Collective awards and trophies with two teams in two different league is a superior to Messi. Why?

Because King ororo has shown that he is not a one team player and that he can replicate his success and performance in any team.

The most damning statistic ever with Messi and Ronaldo is the career goals stat.

602 goals in about 700 games.
601 goals in about 850 games.

This is just unreal.

This is like what Fury just did to Tom Schwarz.


Mofos like you leave out such weighty comparisons and be talking about 2 league, 3 leagues.

This is embarassing.

Swissh:
Gbam. Case closed and dismissed.

Bwhahaha facts only unlike the la liga merchant.

Melvyn11:

Bwhahaha facts only unlike the la liga merchant.

Delusions of grandeur!

That's what I call it.


Google is our friend, I want us to put our monies where ours mouths are.

Let's bet 50 k each.


We use the very simple and effective Google search!

We search "Greatest footballers ever"

9 searches out of 10, Messi rates above Ronaldo.

I repeat 9 times out of 10, Messi Is above Ronaldo on the list.

The la liga merchant rates above the tourist.


Shall we go?

tesppidd:
Delusions of grandeur!
That's what I call it.

Google is our friend, I want us to put our monies where ours mouths are.
Let's bet 50 k each.

We use the very simple and effective Google search!
We search "Greatest footballers ever"
9 searches out of 10, Messi rates above Ronaldo.
I repeat 9 times out of 10, Messi Is above Ronaldo on the list.
The la liga merchant rates above the tourist.

Shall we go?

Why don't we also add Twitter polls bwhahaha

Here we go again :

Melvyn11:

Why don't we also add Twitter polls bwhahaha

Even if we did they'd still be more credible than your opinion.

tesppidd:
Shown whom exactly?

So because Machester United saw big money and shipped him off to Madrid for the doe you converted it to shown?

So because Madrid called his bluff and dumped his asss you want to convert it to shown?

So because Eder won him the Euros you have converted it to shown?


Get da fuuckkk out of here!

I'm not really interested in this argument but as a United fan, I have to set things straight.

First of all, we never had intentions of selling Ronaldo, Sir Alex vehemently rebuffed consecutive Madrid bids but Ronaldo clearly had his mind on going.

The craziest thing here was that, Sir Alex actually begged Ronaldo to avoid a move to Real Madrid and if he had made up his mind, he should at least move to Barcelona who actually bid much higher than Madrid.

Just for the record.

Sometimes I cringe when I think about what could have happened if Ronaldo agreed to join Barcelona... We would have just quit watching football due to unparalleled dominance

Ibukzy:
Here we go again :

WTF is this?

Did this one just wake up and jump into the thread from the toilet?

Or he doesn't understand written English?

DeadPresidents:


I'm not really interested in this argument but as a United fan, I have to set things straight.

First of all, we never had intentions of selling Ronaldo, Sir Alex vehemently rebuffed consecutive Madrid bids but Ronaldo clearly had his mind on going.

The craziest thing here was that, Sir Alex actually begged Ronaldo to avoid a move to Real Madrid and if he had made up his mind, he should at least move to Barcelona who actually bid much higher than Madrid.

Just for the record.

Sometimes I cringe when I think about what could have happened if Ronaldo agreed to join Barcelona... We would have just quit watching football due to unparalleled dominance

A very reasonable argument right here.

I could understand he wanted a move from Man U to Madrid, obviously a bigger club. That was an upgrade.

Then he moved from Madrid to Juve. We all know that if he and Flo Perez reached a compromise he wouldn't make that move. That was a downgrade.

He didn't move because he wanted to prove, he moved because Flo called his bluff and wasn't ready to bend over and take it in the asss from him...

Now with what Barca is ready to do to keep Messi, does any sane human being expect Messi to ditch Barca for another club?

What could be a better proof of insanity that expecting Messi to leave Barca just to prove that he's better than Ronaldo?

What?

Does anybody expect Messi to leave Barca for a bigger club?
What bigger club?
Bayern? Juve? Madrid?

What club would really be an upgrade for Messi?

Melvyn11:

Bwhahaha facts only unlike the la liga merchant.

Messi is no where near him. Messi has only achieved in one league and one club. Ronaldo has proven his greatness in a 2 different leagues and for his country unlike the midget.

Swissh:


Messi is no where near him. Messi has only achieved in one league and one club. Ronaldo has proven his greatness in a 2 different leagues and for his country unlike the midget.

No footballer has dominated 2 leagues like Ronaldo. Won all individual and team achievement with two different teams setting numerous records. We don't gauge greatest from your comfort zone

Swissh:


Messi is no where near him. Messi has only achieved in one league and one club. Ronaldo has proven his greatness in a 2 different leagues and for his country unlike the midget.

he proved himself in the final against Chile in Copa America - that's his level. end of story! NASA is still waiting for that penalty ball to return to Earth.