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Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 9:15pm On Jun 11, 2019 |
Actually, I don't think you understood what you've responded to! Here it is again. This time, note how the "believe" and the "know" are not in the same sentence as you alleged. budaatum: HenryDion: 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Nobody: 10:09pm On Jun 11, 2019 |
budaatum: I asked a question which you are yet to answer. What is that which you KNOW? Let's start from there. |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 11:02am On Jun 12, 2019 |
HenryDion:I answered you! I know that you believe stuff you make up inside your head and refuse to check the evidence. I also know today is Wednesday, June 12, 2019. |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Nobody: 1:41pm On Jun 19, 2019 |
budaatum: I have not been online for a long time now.. Sorry for the late reply. Lemme address the quoted.. I don't believe stuff I made up in my head. I simply refused to believe in the existence of a fairy daddy for lack of substantial evidence. If you can do that, i won't be an atheist anymore. Listen, I'm not dogmatic. I'm open minded and ready to become a theist provided you are able to prove the existence of God. So far, you have done a very poor job at that. Now, what is it that you know, that really gave you the conviction that God exist? I want to KNOW that which you KNOW, that which made you believe in Gods existence. Maybe then, i might believe in him too.. Let's not make this hard! |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 2:32pm On Jun 19, 2019 |
HenryDion:Welcome back. HenryDion:You do believe stuff you make up in your head. Go back and read some of the unevidenced statements you made up above. Or don't you believe them? A clear example of you making things up in your head is your above, "if you can do that". God strike buda if buda did not pray to the contrary! HenryDion:I don't agree that your mind is open. If you have managed to misunderstand what I've written so far then even your eyes are not open not to talk of your mind. And I think you are very dogmatic. You dogmatically hold on to the cooked up idea in your head that I want to turn you into a theist and I am poor at proving the existence of God to you when the truth is I have never tried to prove the existence of God to you and even prayed you remain an atheist. HenryDion:You do not want to know anything. You just want to believe HenryDion, you say so above, and what did I say about "believe"? HenryDion:You can not know what I know HenryDion. It is too hard for you to learn at the moment. When you read what I write instead of believing stuff you make up in your head call me. Johnydon22 you might see why I laugh here. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Nobody: 7:42pm On Jun 19, 2019 |
budaatum: Can you please quote the so called "believe that i must have spewed here? Thanks.
Seems this argument have actually lost its base. You are a theist, I'm an atheist. The bone of contention here should be providing evidence, since the lack of it is what made me an atheist. Not to batter around about what i have made up, when in fact i haven't made up anything but rather, seek for the REASON behind your belief. If you keep beating around the bush without having something reasonable to say pertaining to why you believe in what you believe, then I will have no choice but leave you to your delusion. |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 8:38pm On Jun 19, 2019 |
HenryDion:I have pointed it out to you more than a couple of times already. Go do work and see below HenryDion:So, because I am a theist and you an atheist there's automatically a bone of contention? Are you contending with me because I have not automatically contended any bones except your accusation that I believe ignoring all the evidence. HenryDion:You made up that I contended a bone You made up that I am poor You made up that I tried to make you a theist You made up that I believe despite all the evidence to the contrary and then you seek from me the reason for the belief that you made up and put behind me when it is I, HenryDion, who should ask you for the reason for the belief that you made up and put behind me. HenryDion:There you go again making up that I beleive then asking me to provide evidence for what you made up when the evidence that you made it up is right in front of you but your desire to believe stops you from seeing what you made up and put behind me. Irony is you HenryDion. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Nobody: 6:41am On Jun 20, 2019 |
budaatum: Whatever conclusion I arrived at is definitely deduced from our little battering here. Won't have known these if I haven't engaged you. So, it isn't a "believe" but rather, a fact after a thorough analysis of your comments on this thread. I still hold that you believe in ridiculousness despite lack of evidence, and the contrary evidence. To prove me wrong, simply buttress me by disclosing the evidence that upholds your "believe". Sadly, you can't do that either but rather, keep exhibiting your ignorance all over the thread and making yourself look dumb. You say there is no need for a bone of contention? Then what was your intention for quoting me in the first place? I'm here to learn from theists and atheists alike. That is only possible when we engage with a focal point, not beat around the bush. I love to repeat, I'm damn open minded. But if your aim is to come and spill how arrogant you are, then I can no longer entertain you. Peace brother! |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 10:45am On Jun 20, 2019 |
Henrydion, please show one belief that buda told you buda has. HenryDion: |
Re: God,Humans And AI by johnydon22(m): 11:43am On Jun 20, 2019 |
hakeem4: Your responses to this thread are easily refuted
A car is also man's design doesn't refute the notion that a humanoid robot is modelled after the image of man. So, that a designer created something in its image doesn't mean it has to create everything else likewise. Dangerous to who? The designer? Viruses isn't dangerous to the designer, so there isn't any reason for it not We have such a thing as computer viruses which is not directly harmful to man but is also man's creation but is rather harmful to computer programs which is another of man's design. 2. There is another possible reason: It wants to create viruses and bacterias. Nope. Because it quarks like a duck Looks like a duck Smells like a duck Then it's possibly a duck. I need us to fully understand the ground for each arguments, conisder them then we can easily argue them open mindedly All human knowledge were never in isolation, most of things humans know today are built on the foundation these ancient bronze age peasants laid. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by johnydon22(m): 11:55am On Jun 20, 2019 |
HenryDion:If he used any of those books, the results would still be the same. So i don't see the problem with using the bible unless you have personal issues with the bible?
Fundamental assumption the premise of this thread is built on is that God exists. This thread isn't here to treat the subject of God existing, that's a different argument. It is treating the parallels between God - man - designs which comes implicitly with the idea that God exists Premise man, premise. This is you bringing what he didn't say in his post, his premise isn't treating the existence of God. Bringing it up is a strawman and absolutely non sequitur to the premise You have mentioned the subject of God existing for far too long on this reply without actually even touching the Actual premise of the the thread
Yes. So? Non sequitur to the premise. This is a different argument all together Actually there are none except the ones you created by bringing in external premises not original to the thread. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by johnydon22(m): 12:09pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
budaatum: Hahaha Buda 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by johnydon22(m): 12:11pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
HenryDion: Lol. Only that your analysis of his comments weren't thorough though, not even in the least If it were, you guys wouldn't have gotten up to this point. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 12:45pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
HenryDion. Below is what you made up in your head. HenryDion: |
Re: God,Humans And AI by johnydon22(m): 2:05pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
budaatum:Budaa it is ok na. Henry doesn't get it. Lol 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 2:20pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
johnydon22:I know. But he did say his mind is open so let me spit on mud and rub it in his blind mind until he does get it. Then will you too see how one makes people see the immaterial that they refuse to see with their very tiny minds and closed eyes. I swear to you that sometimes, the way one has to be is enough to make one not bother showing some people anything! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by johnydon22(m): 3:01pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
budaatum: Trouble Atheist on here are quite as close minded and dogmatic as the religious people they accuse of same behavior. Here, people don't read comments or arguments to understand, consider the point, they just read to throw back a reply and then Win Atheism 1 - 0 theism Atheism 0 - 1theism Kinda 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 3:29pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
johnydon22:It is the putting people in little boxes that nauseates me. You say one thing and they hear the opposite of what you said and they then tell you to defend what they made up in their own head and claim you said it! How can anyone take half a look at what one says and stick a label on one? Lets see them win while funnily laying a trail for them to go back to and reflect and evolve however long they may try to cover their eyes and not perceive their faux pas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM8JhvfoqdA 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Martinez19(m): 3:36pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
johnydon22:Are there regular hattrick heroes as well? The close mindedness of atheists when it comes to atheism vs religion arguments is difficult to spot because the position that the existence of religious gods have no basis in reality can't be refuted and constantly maintaining this position is logical. Whether they are being close minded or honest and thoughtful isn't certain because their position and the maintenance of it are both logical. We can spot out close minded atheists when the discussion drifts away from religion to philosophical issues, political issues and others. Just my take. Atheists can be as gullible as religious folks as well. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Martinez19(m): 3:38pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
budaatum:Lol. Lets see them win while funnily laying a trail for them to go back to and reflect and evolve however long they may try to cover their eyes and not perceive their faux pas. |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 3:47pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Martinez19:You de Na beans na |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
johnydon22: |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Martinez19(m): 4:03pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
budaatum:Hope you never finish your beans? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 4:22pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Martinez19:Eh no de ever finish o. Not until OtemAtum said. We never conclude 19 with our beans. Answer this simple one. Is buda beans HenryDion beans? |
Re: God,Humans And AI by EmperorHarry: 5:02pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
budaatum:Temper Temper 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God,Humans And AI by johnydon22(m): 5:44pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Martinez19: Actually No, atheists can just be as close minded on matters regarding God, religion or theology and they often. This your post actually affirms that close-minded stance. |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Martinez19(m): 5:49pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
johnydon22:Care to explain? |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Martinez19(m): 5:53pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Re: God,Humans And AI by budaatum: 5:54pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Martinez19: Depends on what? You chicken |
Re: God,Humans And AI by johnydon22(m): 5:58pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Martinez19:Do you think arguments for God can be logical? |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Martinez19(m): 6:14pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
johnydon22:If it's not the Abrahamic god then yes. Even for the Abrahamic God, certain logical arguments may surface but they are soon shown to contradict the bible. Anyway, how does my post show the close mindedness of atheists? |
Re: God,Humans And AI by Martinez19(m): 6:21pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
budaatum:Let's assume you refer to Nairaland as "beans" and I refer to Facebook as "beans," then your beans is not my beans. If we then decide to the English language as a standard then my beans is your beans regardless of the names we give to beans. That's all I am trying to say. The concept is the same but the terminology defers. |
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