You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this about how Bini came to live in the 15 century only by the importation of brass from Portugal to make what Yoruba taught Bini to make century before.

Thanks to Wole Soyinka for destroying everything they projected by telling them Africa was a functional civilization before the coming of the Europeans that came to loot.

You need to go read more about Yoruba Iron, beads and terracotta from Nok cultute to Iwo Eleru. Please stop displaying your ignorance here.

Bini were taught how to be Great by Oba Yoruba before the Barbarians became civilized by the Greeks that learned from Sudan influence in Egypt.

prolog3111:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDzU7Ega2R8

^^^^^^^When a jealous, hate filled, delusional, attachee by force dog is barking, I must ignore



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDzU7Ega2R8

baby124:

There are many Kings in Lagos with many towns and villages.

Before Benin or after Benin. Truth all this kings originated after Benin just as eko originated after Benin fact.

Eko Benin word what more do u need

goalernestman:


Before Benin or after Benin. Truth all this kings originated after Benin just as eko originated after Benin fact.

Eko Benin word what more do u need

What does Eko mean in Bini? Eko Akete to be precise So the Olofin who founded Lagos was living in the Lagoon

baby124:

What does Eko mean in Bini? Eko Akete to be precise So the Olofin who founded Lagos was living in the Lagoon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

precolonial maps of Benin Kingdom:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8469390z/f1.item

If you don't know, now you know

prolog3111:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

precolonial maps of Benin Kingdom:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8469390z/f1.item

If you don't know, know you know

What does Eko Akete mean? You didn’t answer?

baby124:

What does Eko Akete mean? You didn’t answer?

I don't need to answer your questions, I have proven the claim, what more do I need to add ?
You Yoruba like to struggle with the truth, you think you can talk a dwarf into a giant. You guys live in an alternate universe where the past is created in the present. Just accept reality and move on.

prolog3111:
I don't need to answer your questions, I have proven the claim, what more do I need to add ?
You Yoruba like to struggle with the truth, you think you can talk a dwarf into a giant. You guys live in an alternate universe where the past is created in the present. Just accept reality and move on.

You said Eko is a Benin word. I ask you, what is the meaning of Eko Akete?

baby124:

You said Eko is a Benin word. I ask you, what is the meaning of Eko Akete?

Do you suffer from dislexia ? I think you may be brain damaged.

prolog3111:
Do you suffer from dislexia ? I think you may be brain damaged.

What is the meaning of Eko Akete? You have refused to respond. Benin do not and have never owned Lagos at any point in time. Your monarchy is Yoruba. He was invited by the Alaafin to explore and have a share of Lagos as they are ancestral relatives. Not to own it. Several families from Oyo and Ife came on this expedition too. Not only the Oba of Benin’s emissaries. The Ijebu has long since been in Lagos before the coming of the Awori because they controlled the sea coast which was the secret to their wealth.

The Awori’s were already there ruling and trading before the Oba of Benin sent his emissaries to Lagos. The emissaries were men of his court whose ancestry trace back to Ife by the way.

baby124:

What is the meaning of Eko Akete? You have refused to respond. Benin do not and have never owned Lagos at any point in time. Your monarchy is Yoruba. He was invited by the Alaafin to explore and have a share of Lagos as they are ancestral relatives. Not to own it. Several families from Oyo and Ife came on this expedition too. Not only the Oba of Benin’s emissaries. The Ijebu has long since been in Lagos before the coming of the Awori because they controlled the sea coast which was the secret to their wealth.

The Awori’s were already there ruling and trading before the Oba of Benin sent his emissaries to Lagos. The emissaries were men of his court whose ancestry trace back to Ife by the way.

Yoruba troll, keep barking against reality. Trust me however to serve you reality, back on track:

prolog3111:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

precolonial maps of Benin Kingdom:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8469390z/f1.item

If you don't know, now you know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDzU7Ega2R8

prolog3111:

I ask you.. what does Eko Akete mean. I am a Lagosian, from Lagos Island. Not too far from where the Oba’s palace is and I don’t have Benin ancestry.

baby124:

I ask you.. what does Eko Akete mean. I am a Lagosian, from Lagos Island. Not too far from where the Oba’s palace is and I don’t have Benin ancestry.

yah, if your claim of being a Lagosian is true, I guess you must have witnessed the birth of your ancestors as well, hence your talk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

prolog3111:
yah, if your claim of being a Lagosian is true, I guess you must have witnessed the birth of your ancestors as well, hence your talk.

My ancestors are well known. We are Awori and Oyo stock. The Oyo part came to Lagos with the Oba of Benin’s chiefs. One of the families in that expedition also has their kingdom in Lagos. A bunch of prominent families coming to have their share of a flourishing town does not mean they own it.

baby124:

My ancestors are well known. We are Awori and Oyo stock. The Oyo part came to Lagos with the Oba of Benin’s chiefs. One of the families in that expedition also has their kingdom in Lagos. A bunch of prominent families coming to have their share of a flourishing town does not mean they own it.

Real commedian. You Yoruba, you have the lying gene in your DNA, you lie and lie and lie. Let me serve you some truths:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

prolog3111:


Real commedian


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

I never said Benin owned Lagos – Oba Akiolu
BY OLADEINDE OLAWOYIN
DECEMBER 11, 2017
The Oba of Lagos, Rilwan Akiolu, on Monday said he never said that the Benin people owned Lagos.
The monarch spoke in Victoria Island, Lagos, at the launch of “Defend the Defenseless”, a book written by Arese Carrington, wife of a former U.S. ambassador to Nigeria, Walter Carrington.
Mr. Akiolu was reacting to controversies generated by his earlier remarks that the developmental strides being witnessed in Lagos State was because of the blessings given to it by a past Oba of Benin.
The comment generated debates in the media with many contesting the monarch’s position.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/252183-i-never-said-benin-owned-lagos-oba-akiolu.html%3famp_markup=1

baby124:



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/252183-i-never-said-benin-owned-lagos-oba-akiolu.html%3famp_markup=1

prolog3111:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

precolonial maps of Benin Kingdom:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8469390z/f1.item

If you don't know, now you know

Accept reality and move on ! Your lies will never work. I am not your random village idiot, this is 2019 for god's sake !

prolog3111:


You Yoruba, you have the lying gene in your DNA, you lie and lie and lie.

Lmaooo. When it does not favor you. You call us liars. You claim Eko has Benin meaning. I asked you to tell me what Eko Akete means, you went into a rant calling me lair and posting 100 links. You are not alright at all.

baby124:

Lmaooo. When it does not favor you. You call us liars. You claim Eko has Benin meaning. I asked you to tell me what Eko Akete means, you went into a rant calling me lair and posting 100 links. You are not alright at all.

Receive sense:

prolog3111:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

precolonial maps of Benin Kingdom:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8469390z/f1.item

If you don't know, now you know

prolog3111:



Receive sense:

The same guy debunked this video in the article I posted. Where do the Oniru and Aromire families come from. Despite being from Lagos Island and Lagos? So many families like them by the way. You are a joker. The Benin ancestry is only the obaship of his small territory. There are so many other royal families. Lots of families on Lagos Island came with Olofin and they have no Benin ancestry except maybe intermarriage with those who might have.

baby124:

The same guy debunked this video in the article I posted. Where do the Oniru and Aromire families come from. Despite being from Lagos Island and Lagos? So many families like them by the way. You are a joker. The Benin ancestry is only the obaship of his small territory. There are so many other royal families. Lots of families on Lagos Island came with Olofin and they have no Benin ancestry except maybe intermarriage with those who might have.

Receive sense and truth, you people lie too much. Lagos is a part of Benin empire. It always has been. All you are saying are a bunch of unsubstantiated Rubbish. A king has chiefs who represent his authority at a more local level, like dukes and son on. For example, in England there are many titled people, but only one person sits on the actual throne. Lack of knowledge, lack of sense and lack of good will makes some Nigerians claim that each town is a kingdom, that each village is a kingdom and perhaps that each street is a kingdom...

prolog3111:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

precolonial maps of Benin Kingdom:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8469390z/f1.item

If you don't know, now you know

prolog3111:


Receive sense and truth, you people lie too much. Lagos is a part of Benin empire. It always has been. All you are saying are a bunch of unsubstantiated Rubbish. A king has chiefs who represent his authority at a more local level, like dukes and son on. For example, in England there are many titled people, but only one person sits on the actual throne. Lack of knowledge, lack of sense and lack of good will makes some Nigerians claim that each town is a kingdom, that each village is a kingdom and perhaps that each street is a kingdom...

WTF. Men you de craze. Lmao.

It's like some people can't differentiate between EKO and Lagos because Lagos has multiple tribes living in it like Egun or Ogu, Aworis and Ijebu (who i meant add also claimed to have founded Lagos). And the Aworis migrated from supposed Ife, they settled in a particular region in Lagos not all of Lagos.
The point is the Benin people met the Aworis in that region so for some reason they made the prince of Benin their king. So it is more like they colonised that region inhabited by the Aworis.

Weedfree:
It's like some people can't differentiate between EKO and Lagos because Lagos has multiple tribes living in it like Egun or Ogu, Aworis and Ijebu (who i meant add also claimed to have founded Lagos). And the Aworis migrated from supposed Ife, they settled in a particular region in Lagos not all of Lagos.
The point is the Benin people met the Aworis in that region so for some reason they made the prince of Benin their king. So it is more like they colonised that region inhabited by the Aworis.

I am still waiting for proof of this claim often repeated by the yoruba. Précolonial maps however show the entire thing we now call Lagos and its surroundings as being part of Benin empire. Some of these maps are more than 600 years old. Then, how is it even possible to claim "aworis were there first" ? Did you guys invent a time machine to go back 1000 years before today ? How does your claim even make sense ?

[quote author=prolog3111 post=79615204]I am still waiting for proof of this claim often repeated by the yoruba. Précolonial maps however show the entire thing we now call Lagos and its surroundings as being part of Benin empire. Some of these maps are more than 600 years old. Then, how is it even possible to claim "aworis were there first" ? Did you guys invent a time machine to go back 1000 years before today ? How does your claim even make sense ?[/quote

First of i didn't mention i was Yoruba and the Portuguese arrived in Lagos in the 15th century so any map older than that is fake so post the precise date that map was made.
Further more, If Benin empire covered the whole of Lagos then what about the Egun and Ijebu did they conquer them because it was not recorded.
In addition, the Egun people claim to have arrived in Badagry in the 15th century and the ijebus also claim to have founded Lagos.

^^ if you are not Yoruba then you are just a fool to be religiously shouting Yoruba biased claims without proof.(why would a non Yoruba do that ? I really don't know...) What more is there to say: all precolonial maps show Lagos and its surroundings as being part of Benin empire ! These are hard facts ! And you ignore these and go and bring me mere claims ? Also it seems you don't know that the 15th century is around 600 years ago. If anybody "migrated" to Lagos before it was part of Benin empire, then it happened more than 600 years ago ( since 600 year old maps show the place being under the Great Oba). Therefore, how are people alive today able to say what happened more than 600 years ago ? All this with no proof to show ! Time machine ? Also, I don't identify people according to what they claim, I identify them according to how they act.

Yoruba definitely failed logics.

Weedfree:
It's like some people can't differentiate between EKO and Lagos because Lagos has multiple tribes living in it like Egun or Ogu, Aworis and Ijebu (who i meant add also claimed to have founded Lagos). And the Aworis migrated from supposed Ife, they settled in a particular region in Lagos not all of Lagos.
The point is the Benin people met the Aworis in that region so for some reason they made the prince of Benin their king. So it is more like they colonised that region inhabited by the Aworis.

No record of aowri king in eko before the benin
Eko mean war camp in edo according to wiki
no record of name called the full lagos before Benin

it was more than coloni benin originate Eko

prolog3111:
^^ if you are not Yoruba then you are just a fool to be religiously shouting Yoruba biased claims without proof.(why would a non Yoruba do that ? I really don't know...) What more is there to say: all precolonial maps show Lagos and its surroundings as being part of Benin empire ! These are hard facts ! And you ignore these and go and bring me mere claims ? Also it seems you don't know that the 15th century is around 600 years ago. If anybody "migrated" to Lagos before it was part of Benin empire, then it happened more than 600 years ago ( since 600 year old maps show the place being under the Great Oba). Therefore, how are people alive today able to say what happened more than 600 years ago ? All this with no proof to show ! Time machine ? Also, I don't identify people according to what they claim, I identify them according to how they act.

Well if am a fool then u are a featherbrain, dimwit, an omega fool and to call me Yoruba or not is really up to u. And u said more than 600 years ago so u made a mistake cause any map older than that is fake.
By ur statement u probably never heard of historical records and what proof do u have apart from maps.
And the Aworis have been in Lagos far longer than the Benin people they just made a Benin prince their king and u probably never heard of Olofin from ur i guess not. He lead the Aworis out of Ife.
The Egun people have also been in Lagos far longer than the Benins. They migrated from Whydah because of the Dahomey war and arrived in Lagos in the early 15th century.
So this are not claims they are evidence that u ignore and assume they are just claims.

Weedfree:


Well if am a fool then u are a featherbrain, dimwit, an omega fool and to call me Yoruba or not is really up to u. And u said more than 600 years ago so u made a mistake cause any map older than that is fake.
By ur statement u probably never heard of historical records and what proof do u have apart from maps.
And the Aworis have been in Lagos far longer than the Benin people they just made a Benin prince their king and u probably never heard of Olofin from ur i guess not. He lead the Aworis out of Ife.
The Egun people have also been in Lagos far longer than the Benins. They migrated from Whydah because of the Dahomey war and arrived in Lagos in the early 15th century.
So this are not claims they are evidence that u ignore and assume they are just claims.

I think you are officially brain dead. I put up my claim, then I back it with proof in the form of precolonial maps. You ask for more proof and go on to make unsubstantiated claims. You the same guy asking me for more proof ? And you even classify your claims as "proof". Boy your teachers need to be shot...I think if you had an ounce of well functionning brain, then you would stop talking right now. I am not willing to go into more of your inconsistencies, including those on your commentsvwhich I did not address.

goalernestman:


No record of aowri king in eko before the benin
Eko mean war camp in edo according to wiki
no record of name called the full lagos before Benin

it was more than coloni benin originate Eko

Then who was Olofin. And if Eko was all of Lagos then what about Egun land and Ijebu land in Lagos did Benin conquer them or if Benin gave it to them cause if that is the case then it would have been recorded.

Weedfree:


Then who was Olofin. And if Eko was all of Lagos then what about Egun land and Ijebu land in Lagos did Benin conquer them or if Benin gave it to them cause if that is the case then it would have been recorded.

Nothing you say was recorded ! Including your imaginary olofin. What was recorded is that the region was part of Benin empire. Get that !