AutoMoTech:


bro i truly get your point. You feel it doesnt make sense for you. You know about cars. But for other ppl who dont know what to look out for, they need a professional eye.
On the guarantee thing even even big car dealerships in the abroad dont ever give guarantees. It is the manufacturerthat does that. I wonder why U expect me as a mechanic to give you guarantee...hehehehe

on the contrary, it makes a whole lot of sense.... just that I feel the mechanic should indulge in ownership more but I also still feel I am asking for too much.

like u said, "u don't manufacture cars"
this is a very very common line for situations gone south....


it's a grey area bro..... but I'd feel better if a mechanic who inspected a ride for me should be able to stamp his feet and say.... if this vehicle gives u any problems ranging from X, Y and Z.... bring it to my workshop....
but like I said, I still feel like I'm asking for too much....

it's something that I don't even have answers to.... I just brought up the scenario to the mix so we can also know that issue still dey when COMPETENT mech goes to inspect vehicles for a potential buyer....

it's not a perfect solution to buying naija used....

AutoMoTech:
So in the light of all this, what steps would you take to avoid buying a lemon? So atleast we can all learn together

in the light of all these...
Get to know all or at least some things about the ride one wants to purchase....
involve a competent mechanic who has a long history of satisfied customers
buy the ride and pray that nothing happens and the villagers don't remember you



to the floor members....
I think Gazuzz has a thread on buying naija used cars sha.... it has helped a lot of buyers so far...

as for me, I am. trying my possible best to learn all I can about rides and I do this in the little spare time I have....
and for me to buy a car, brother at least I'd have covered like 50percent of everything regarding the ride....

you can imagine that I bought an 06 Camry just after selling off my 03 Camry....
I could have bought something else within that price range... but I was just hesitant... much to the distaste of my friends and colleagues.....

but inside me I knew why



it's a me thing sha I hate taking uncalculated risks
and I heard that the higher the risk, the higher the returns.... but my brother.... not for me oh

tetralogyfallot:
I was so unfortunate to waste my 600k to purchase a 9ja used ford focus. I have spent over 300k trying to fix either one problem or the other. The car keeps developing from one fault to another. I've replaced top gasket about 2 times, replaced ac compressor, fix the leaky ac pipes, replaced the engine manifold as the mechanic said it was not the follow come manifold that is on the engine and if I did not change it d car would be emitting smoke, I've replaced air flow meter, I've changed fuel pump like 5 times at last I just have to buy the complete fuel pump kit that was removed from accidented car, I've changed the lever gear as it gear hardens anytime I want to reverse, I've changed fan belts like 2 times, I've replaced the nozzles of the car as I was told it may be the cause of high fuel consumption. I've changed the clutch disc. The painful part of the story is that after all these changes the car is still not in good form cos I was about driving it this evening and the gear is failing to even respond. Please please and please don't ever buy a Nigerian used car. If you don't have enough money, save up n double your huste until your money complete to buy even if it a small tokunboh car. Nigerians don't sell their cars until it starts developing issues.

I have used the very same car since 2012 and I dont think my problems would even be half the number of yours. One thing someone rightly mentioned here is the possible abuse of your car by Kazeems. If there's one thing I know in my years of using my Focus, they do NOT take abuse well at all!

Oh and yes, those Kazeems can misdiagnose the hell out of a car! Five fuel pumps?! How?! Were you pumping the fuel out of an oil well?!

obekediamondfuto:


nope this is not where I'm headed tho....
I'm talking, when and if something (within the mechanics purview) happens within a very short time after purchasing the ride....

buyer still takes responsibility, even tho he paid for inspection!

now another very recent online scenario...
A certain young man walks into a car lot with his trusty mechanic (Kazeem) tho.... the mechanic certified the ride OK and in top notch condition

some days later, vehicle was used to convey family to a different state
...

vehicle parked up less than halfway through....
buyer went back to seller to complain..... IMHO the mechanic should be the first point of contact....
he should have checked history ET all.....

now the scenario still played out well to the favour or this promising young man, with a minute loss in the hundreds of thousands..... after returning the ride.

but if that ride was bought from cars45 I don't think he'd have been able to return the ride!

now. my point is not whether the mechanic was sound or not... my point is who should have been held accountable?

and yes I still understand your point butressed above.... but this is the point I am trying to make!

oh! Now i get it your point perfectly. Yes for sure, the mecha ic shld be d first point of call and based on whateva the fault might be you can agree if to proceed to the seller or not. As a professional my word and my reputation is everything. Wc means I should be able to confidently "suggest" that the customer to buy the car based on certain variables. That means for me to give the go ahead, the car must pass if not all atleast 95% of tests i carry out. Like you said it a grey area truly, but then just to give yiu a better chance at buying a good car and not a lemon.

obekediamondfuto:


in the light of all these...
Get to know all or at least some things about the ride one wants to purchase....
involve a competent mechanic who has a long history of satisfied customers
buy the ride and pray that nothing happens and the villagers don't remember you



to the floor members....
I think Gazuzz has a thread on buying naija used cars sha.... it has helped a lot of buyers so far...

as for me, I am. trying my possible best to learn all I can about rides and I do this in the little spare time I have....
and for me to buy a car, brother at least I'd have covered like 50percent of everything regarding the ride....

you can imagine that I bought an 06 Camry just after selling off my 03 Camry....
I could have bought something else within that price range... but I was just hesitant... much to the distaste of my friends and colleagues.....

but inside me I knew why



it's a me thing sha I hate taking uncalculated risks
and I heard that the higher the risk, the higher the returns.... but my brother.... not for me oh

haaaaa daddy did U say U sold 03 camry to buy 06 camry? Eh sir... i think we need to soak ur head insyd hot pot of pepper soup o hehehehe... why U no upglade na? Muscle for really fit U o with all dis ur banter u dey use murder ppl

AgentGoat:





If you can't warranty your job as the so called professional what is now the different between you and kazeem?

sir there is a difference btw the job and the product. My point is this, if you employ Gazzuzz to inspect a car before U purchase, U av a higher chance of buying a good car rather than a lemon. Why? He knows this cars, he has the experience, the knowledge and skill. Baba wont even touch a kazeemised car. But then does that mean the "better car "wont ever ever develop a fault? Thats not possible na. Bt to a large extent he will be a able to guarantee certain things just like daddy Obeke stated. But an outright guarantee say the motor no go ever spoil? Thats impossible. That was my humble point sir...

billy187:


I have used the very same car since 2012 and I dont think my problems would even be half the number of yours. One thing someone rightly mentioned here is the possible abuse of your car by Kazeems. If there's one thing I know in my years of using my Focus, they do NOT take abuse well at all!

Oh and yes, those Kazeems can misdiagnose the hell out of a car! Five fuel pumps?! How?! Were you pumping the fuel out of an oil well?!

as in bro 5 pumps o... and they didnt consider running a deep scan tho spot the possible problems. My thot is there r various faulty components contributing to that cars wahala. They should take it one step at a time. Diagnosing based on symptoms and other gathered data rather than guess work and throwing parts at the car.

billy187:


I have used the very same car since 2012 and I dont think my problems would even be half the number of yours. One thing someone rightly mentioned here is the possible abuse of your car by Kazeems. If there's one thing I know in my years of using my Focus, they do NOT take abuse well at all!

Oh and yes, those Kazeems can misdiagnose the hell out of a car! Five fuel pumps?! How?! Were you pumping the fuel out of an oil well?!

bro! The thing tire me o. I was jut unlucky. Its my first car but I have virtually known everything about cars due to constant visit to mechanics garage.

AutoMoTech:


haaaaa daddy did U say U sold 03 camry to buy 06 camry? Eh sir... i think we need to soak ur head insyd hot pot of pepper soup o hehehehe... why U no upglade na? Muscle for really fit U o with all dis ur banter u dey use murder ppl

my brother location oh... location majorly affected my decision!
..
I initially wanted to upgrade but when I discovered that they had to import clock spring for EOD from onitsha, I had to use my head....

if I were in Lagos then.... maybe I'd have done something different!

obekediamondfuto:


my brother location oh... location majorly affected my decision!
..
I initially wanted to upgrade but when I discovered that they had to import clock spring for EOD from onitsha, I had to use my head....

if I were in Lagos then.... maybe I'd have done something different!

Hahahaha so nob Lag U dey sef? No wonder ur mouth sharp. I for don organise boiz make dem kazeemise ur motor b4 dem beat U hehehehe

all good tho. All na brain sha

tetralogyfallot:
bro! The thing tire me o. I was jut unlucky. Its my first car but I have virtually known everything about cars due to constant visit to mechanics garage.

that knowledge shld comee in good wen next U get ur next car... infact u suppose fit open workshop now sef.... heheehe

Dont ever buy a Ford Focus, especially second hand.

;

AutoMoTech:


that knowledge shld comee in good wen next U get ur next car... infact u suppose fit open workshop now sef.... heheehe

which is an advantage abi

tetralogyfallot:
; which is an advantage abi

Beeni o hahahaha... one suffer, forever wise

AutoMoTech:


Beeni o hahahaha... one suffer, forever wise

me sef don sabi change fuel pump now.

tetralogyfallot:
me sef don sabi change fuel pump now.

hahahaha osheeeeeey baddest.
not a bad experience afterall hehehehe

AutoMoTech:


Hahahaha so nob Lag U dey sef? No wonder ur mouth sharp. I for don organise boiz make dem kazeemise ur motor b4 dem beat U hehehehe

all good tho. All na brain sha

Lolz I'm back to base now
No fear, I've been welcome on board this base since I was little...

As my grandpa used to say,only 2 things can kill a man so quick..

1, BAD CAR.

2, BAD WIFE.


There is nothing bad in buying a Nigerian used car,you just have to be lucky enough even after inspection.

Dispose the car b4 it kills you,a bad car can be compared to cancer,stay clear.

obekediamondfuto:


Lolz I'm back to base now No fear, I've been welcome on board this base since I was little...

no wahala... no welcoimg party for U be dt. hehehe

AutoMoTech:


bro i truly get your point. You feel it doesnt make sense for you. You know about cars. But for other ppl who dont know what to look out for, they need a professional eye.
On the guarantee thing even even big car dealerships in the abroad dont ever give guarantees. It is the manufacturerthat does that. I wonder why U expect me as a mechanic to give you guarantee...hehehehe

Guarantee on what specifically?

It’s a law in the USA to offer warranties on used cars and services.

UnitedAlliance:


Guarantee on what specifically?

It’s a law in the USA to offer warranties on used cars and services.

Lol
Pls don’t misinform people.

UnitedAlliance:


Guarantee on what specifically?

It’s a law in the USA to offer warranties on used cars and services.

Well in a country like Nigeria where 50 percent of the people trying to sell a naija used vehicle are strictly selling to trade off their problems with the ride, I don't think the seller can offer any form of warranty.... In fact they cant even guarantee that the ride will take u home same day

elshanAutos:

Lol
Pls don’t misinform people.

I’m not sure what you found funny in my comment. Some of us takes automobiles seriously.

I suggest that you educate yourself so you can come across as an informed and responsible adult.

There is as such as federal and state used car laws. At minimum.

obekediamondfuto:


Well in a country like Nigeria where 50 percent of the people trying to sell a naija used vehicle are strictly selling to trade off their problems with the ride, I don't think the seller can offer any form of warranty.... In fact they cant even guarantee that the ride will take u home same day

I responded specifically to this statement.

“On the guarantee thing even even big car dealerships in the abroad dont ever give guarantees.”

Warranty in Nigeria will require a dedicated approach. Not easy but possible.

UnitedAlliance:


I’m not sure what you found funny in my comment. Some of us takes automobiles seriously.

I suggest that you educate yourself so you can come across as an informed and responsible adult.

There is as such as federal and state used car laws. At minimum.

I suggest you adhere to rule 21 of nairaland, and ENG 101.

Have a nice day.

UnitedAlliance:


I responded specifically to this statement.

“On the guarantee thing even even big car dealerships in the abroad dont ever give guarantees.”

Warranty in Nigeria will require a dedicated approach. Not easy but possible.

I totally concur with this....
Not easy but possible!
And that's a hidden goldmine

But on the issue of guarantee/ warranty ....
It's just that one is documented and the other isn't....

Giving guarantees shouldn't be a problem, it's just a promise na....
So me I'd take a guarantee from someone with something to protect and warranty from someone new

UnitedAlliance:


I responded specifically to this statement.

“On the guarantee thing even even big car dealerships in the abroad dont ever give guarantees.”

Warranty in Nigeria will require a dedicated approach. Not easy but possible.

Also, note; guarantee is the actual assurance itself, whilst warranty is usually a written guarantee.

elshanAutos:

I suggest you adhere to rule 21 of nairaland, and ENG 101.

Have a nice day.

Now, this I find funny. Someone of your ilk that feebly attempts to lecture me on English composition

While we are offering unsolicited suggestions, could you take a look at rule #8?

Have any kind of day that is appropriate for your situation.

UnitedAlliance:


Guarantee on what specifically?

It’s a law in the USA to offer warranties on used cars and services.

The warranty/guarantee is only valid if the car is serviced by the brand authorised dealer and car still under the manufacturers guarantee.

elshanAutos:

Also, note; guarantee is the actual assurance itself, whilst warranty is usually a written guarantee.

You’re now getting silly and flailing about just because you got called out.

Stick to the bone of contention.

Do big stores give warranties in 1st world countries or not?

elshanAutos:

Also, note; guarantee is the actual assurance itself, whilst warranty is usually a written guarantee.

E be like say u don dey roll with autoelectng abi

Hmmmmmmmmmm I smell an English lecture going on behind my back!