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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 3:37pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
Greatihex: With all due respect, this makes little to no sense if I am to be totally Honest with you. In this particular scenario you highlighted, who are we to Blame if not the Irresponsible Adult Male? Just because a Minor is gagging for it does not mean you have to get your d@$k wet. It's at times like these that Self restraint, Self respect and Moral Decency comes into play. It's not errday Fukku Fakka, sometimes give little man down there a bit of respite. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:37pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
airmark: Troubling doesnt win games, Goals win games, And an attacker is expected to score goals to win games |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
airmark: That thread is for Bayern related discussions 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:39pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
Debroslink: Return leg, I thought Dinho scored |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:39pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
A40: The pastor who slapped is also on youtube and has been for several years |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:42pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
A40: Cosby is guilty because he was DRUGGING the girls. If you need to spike a girl drink to have sex with her, means she wasnt conscious to have sex. Which is different from any of these cases where most of the girls were in their right mind What is underage level as defined in Nigerian laws. Especially when in th North its acceptable to marry a 13yr old. Mind you Ilorin is also in the North Your main problem is Pastor finnesing his members just like every Pastor in Nigeria. Does that make them criminals? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:00pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Dayo, two wrongs don't make a right, stop using the vile practice in some parts of the world to justify underage sex. me and you both know that marrying a 13 year old girl is wrong in every way thought of. unfortunately, it's one of the vile ancient customs still being practised in underdeveloped parts of the world, just like female mutilation, arranged marriages and so on. But we, who are now more culturally diversed, integrated and evolved in our thinking are supposed to try to correct the wrongs of the past and not use those mistakes to defend what we both know is absolutely perverse in nature. It's just like using the killing of twins in the past to justify late term abortion. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:16pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
donjazet: Who told you its wrong and what constitutes underage sex. Is it not the law of the land? What is now the law of the land? This link shows the age of consent in European countries. Check the list of countries there and see how many of them are underdeveloped like you claimed https://www.ageofconsent.net/continent/europe What is wrong with arranged marriages? Many of my colleagues at work from India still do arrange marriages and from stats, they have lesser divorces build stronger families, raised adjusted kids than people who marry out of spur of the moment emotions called love 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:52pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
raumdeuter: I'm now immune to your odd stances on issues, it's been clear right from time that you love taking controversial stands just for the sake of arguments. Dayo, would you like your daughter to start having sex by 13 or 14 years of age? Do you yourself have sex with 13 year olds? Your answer settles this argument. Some Laws of the land at a given time may not necessarily be right, because ultimately, the reasons for those laws might have been formed from biased or selfish basis by its makers, for instance, segregationist laws and pro slavery laws in the USA. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:55pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
nihilistjnr:you definitely have known a lot of fake pastors or would i say, worldly pastors |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 4:59pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
raumdeuter: That's true |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:59pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
donjazet: Its not what I like or what I don't like, Its what the law says. Do I like the fact that Danjuma owns Oil blocks and I dont even own a jerry can of palm oil? If the laws are not right then that is your own personal belief, and its not a crime Are societies governed by the personal opinions of people? Personally, I feel a 58yr old Ned Nwoko sleeping with a 19yr old Regina is wrong. Regina's father does not like it, Personally, I don't like, I don't want my 18yr old daughter to sleep with a 60yr old man but is it a crime? Let me ask you, is a 60yr old man marrying a 20yr old girl his granddaughters agemate as 6th wife okay by you? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:00pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
Greatihex: The genuine pastors you know who are not worldly. Where do they get their income from? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:04pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:05pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
donjazet:OK. Now, what would be your immediate reaction when the girl comes 16 years later to claim that the teacher raped her [if the teacher fails to keep to the promise of marrying her] and that she didn't resist the teacher during the process? Mind you, the teacher in the case is like the coza pastor. I think it is time you start thinking |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:12pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
chic2pimp:Even among the 12, there was a thief. Our parents know with experience that all men are not the same, that is why they give those instructions. There are paedophiles everywhere, you can't carelessly enter their trap due to your disobedience and over curiosity and not be ready to accept what comes out of it. He that price must pay. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:18pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
raumdeuter:in my church, the Pastors are paid salary by the church. Infact, the Pastors are at the mercy of the church |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:19pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
VargasVee: trust Marina she sold him for the cost price €65m... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:25pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
Greatihex: The money for that salary, where does it come from |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 5:31pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
[img][/img] raumdeuter: The answer to the bolded is YES. Laws are made by the personal opinion of people, if all of us on this sports thread decide to go publicly and campaign vigorously against child marriage at fct, our movement can gain traction over time, one of the leaders of the movement can win a seat at parliament and fight fully for the act to be criminalized. That's the beauty of democracy. Personally, I don't like, I don't want my 18yr old daughter to sleep with a 60yr old manI will take this as a win. you have changed the dynamics and context of the argument to whether it's a crime or not, not whether it's right or wrong. Since the pastors rape story came out, what many people have been arguing about foremostly is whether his actions were RIGHT, not necessarily whether they were legal. You have been defending him on the basis of whether he got consent or not from the girl but people are saying its not right for a man to court a lot of girls who are underage. For the first time, you have admitted that underage sex is not right and that is a win that I'll take. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by LegoMetahuman: 5:49pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
useless team and useless manager i wonder where they brought this manager from |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:50pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
raumdeuter:from tithe, church support offering and seeds of faith. Now, why would a pastor in this case want to exploit members financially when in the end he will still get his fixed salary? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:51pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
donjazet: You definitely do not understand what I have been saying First the nature of the relationship and the way the girl narrated the incident does not look like rape to me, Most rape is by forcefully without consent having sex with a girl, In most case when the girl is objecting there is usually force, threats and maybe a weapon. None of these was present in this case. The pastor came to her house pulled down her underwear, she DID NOT STRUGGLE with him, from her words she said and I quote, [b]When he was about to do it, I wanted to react but he covered my mouth and said 'Busola listen to me and you will be fine, just do what I want you to do" I didn't struggle, I just let him, he brought out his dick, pulled down my panties. I was grunting I will cry and he eventually penetrated he finished what he wanted to do. Now tell me how this is rape. still had sex many times after that initial rape, Continued attending the church of the rapist All these do not point to rape IMO. The statement in bold will fail the case of rape. Now the next charge was that if it was sex with an underage which is a crime, And I asked what constitute underage sex in Nigeria? You are claiming its sex with underage, I now ask what is the age of consent in Nigeria, you haven't been able to tell me So if you can't tell what law Biodun infracted how do you know he committed a crime You now tried to pander to sentiments asking if my own daughter at 13 should be having sex and I told you that my opinion is not what matters. I don't want my 20yr old to be having sex with a 60yr old even if its legal. But that is my own opinion just like the father of Regina If I don't like my daughter having sex with a 60yr old, there is nothing I can do because she is of age I hope your confusion has been cleared no 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:54pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
Greatihex: While the pastor might be on a fixed salary, It doesn't stop "gifts" from members. These gifts are not controlled by the church These gifts can be increased by sweet-talking, seeing positive predictions, selling hope and other coercive measures to the members That is fleecing 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 5:56pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
Am I the only one watching the naija match |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:01pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
donjazet If a girl says your brother raped her. You asked her how it happened and she said When he was about to do it, I wanted to react but he covered my mouth and said 'Chioma, listen to me and you will be fine, just do what I want you to do" I didn't struggle, I just let him, he brought out his dick, pulled down my panties. I was grunting I will cry and he eventually penetrated he finished what he wanted to do. Will you say your brother raped her? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 6:03pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
thorrvik55:Very annoying sth |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:05pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
raumdeuter:Let the slapee press charges. For all we know they might have been settled at the background |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:10pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
A40: The slapee in the Senator case didn't press charges, they might have even settled in the background yet the senator was asked to make an apology and even detained by police The pastor who slapped actually bragged that he doesn't answer to men but to a supreme being and he will slap her again if the situation presents itself yet he wasn't made to apologize or detained by police 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 6:18pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
chic2pimp:I'm confused at his defense. I really am |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 6:21pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
Ighalo! Una better win this match |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:21pm On Jul 06, 2019 |
raumdeuter: First of all, I will ask myself if he is capable of doing this?, if he has been accused of something like this prior to this from someone else and if he has been guilty of this. the pastor in question has numerously been accused of this, thus indicating a pattern. Someone has previously tried to inform you on the various forms of sexual molestation. Apart from the physical force involved, there can be an environment where there was significant mental and psychological coercion. Men in power understand that women are drawn to power and as such might use these tactics to attract gullible and vulnerable young teens. 1 Like |
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