Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naturalwaves: 9:33pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Daree88:
I don't disrespect Mikel as a personality; but I counter his inclusion with the present squad if we really want SE to move forward. We still have players like Chukwueze who can replace Mikel and do the work better, but emotions and sympathy will always affect our sense of judgement!
Asides, if I don't want Mikel, there's nothing you can do about it; it's my opinion. I can't be you and you can't be me. We think differently, that's why it's called PUBLIC OPINION. If you counter his inclusion, there are better ways to communicate your objection unlike the way most of you sound like ingrates. I should not be surprised though because that's the same way Nigeria treats her heros. You said Chiqueze can replace Mikel. Do they play the same position? Whether you like it or not, our team is still a bit dysfunctional. I am not saying playing Mikel is the solution but we still have a lot of work to do and yes! Mikel can still play depending on the tactics and the opposition. Our striker barely gets fed with good passes. Chiqueze still has a lot of learning to do...... Passing and crossing. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naturalwaves: 9:35pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
TruthinAction:
That's was why I was suspecting he is fielding players to the gallery of some external influences which I think are whites who does not want us back amongst the best 10 in the world. No coach plays a winger who can't supply balls to the attackers. Let's hope he does the right thing in our next match. I can't wait to see these bunch of young talented players starting our games. The old players should please retire. ...... And who is the winger that cannot supply balls? |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naturalwaves: 9:45pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Daree88:
That's what I've been crying for. We get stuck to a player that even when they start underperforming, we still keep on with them. We can't continue like this if we want results. Couldn't he have changed Ighalo in the Second half and try fresh options like Onyekuru and Osimhen?!
If not for public outcry, he wouldn't have used Chukwueze as starting lineup.
And this same emotion is what we have for inconsistent Mikel, that's why we experienced so many problems in the midfield. I still prefer Iwobi to Mikel in Mikel's position. Mikel doesn't fit this team anymore. I will continue to say it. If not for his injury, we won't see the beautiful creativity we enjoyed so far. Let's learn to call a spade a spade when it eventually becomes a spade. I am a very blunt person. Kudos to Mikel, but his time is gone. That's the truth. What was the wrong thing Ighalo did yesterday? You lots are not knowledgeable about football but will come online to form nwa analyst. For your information, Ighalo's physical presence kept the backline of SA at bay and at alert and thus, some other people were free. How many through balls were supplied to Ighalo? Talking about Chiqueze, he didn't really play well in the 1st game and was just average. Kalu Uche started in that position in the 2nd game and played better.... Kalu Uche also had a better physical presence. The opposition will determine what the coach will play and those at the helm of selecting players are not foools like most of you would like to think. If we would be meeting Ivory Coast, Kalu Uche will start ahead of Chuqueze... Now that it is Algeria, he will most likely start. You talked about creativity. What creativity was shown against SA aside sending the balls to the flanks and our wingers trying to do something with the ball. Do you mean that if Mikel played, he won't know how to pass or what? What creative play came from the Midfield against SA aside sitting deep and keeping them at bay?? |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by stanliwiser: 10:43pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
|
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Dedetwo(m): 11:10pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
DateMynd44: for ur information I'm Efik, Ibibio and annang from South South and we aren't Biafra. thank God u used the term defunct to show it doesn't exists anymore. You have been a saboteur and shall remain so. What information could come from a dumbass jackass? The bolded in the above crap speaks volume about your mental balance. The so-called south-south is nothing but a political gimmick. Unlike the regions which were statutory created, the rubbish south-south is born out of political idiocy that can only exist in Nigeria. Even the dummy nonsensical nomenclature (southsouth) differs the cardinal logic of geography. I guess the fate of Bakassi has failed to inculcate some reasons into the dry skull you called brain. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by TruthinAction: 11:13pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
naturalwaves:
...... And who is the winger that cannot supply balls? Moses Simon. Even though the winning goal in our last match came through a well taken corner kick, on the average, he is not a good winger. He loses more than 70% of the balls he contest with defenders. Ahmed Musa gets through defenders almost all the time. He just needs to make a better finishing. Chukwueze is also very good on the right. He just needs a good coach to get the best out of him. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Dedetwo(m): 11:18pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
safarigirl:
Ekong is not Calabar, please. Ekong is from Akwa Ibom, and they were part of the defunct Biafra, in fact, one of his kinsmen was the second-in-command to Ojukwu, so.... Please do not pay a mind to the delusional ninny. I had hope the parents did not spent their hard earned money on his/her education. He/She thought that everybody on this forum is a basement fool such as him/her. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Dedetwo(m): 11:23pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
DateMynd44: when I said Calabar I'm referring to Akwa Cross the Efiks Ibibios and Annangs. thank God u Said defunct which means they are no more a part of Biafra again Please shut up already and save yourself from further academic embarrassment. Maybe you thought I am from Sokoto or Katsina. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Dedetwo(m): 11:34pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
DateMynd44: typical DC fan as ur signature indicates. you guys are so easy to be deceived. because someone's gender shows (f) doesn't mean it's a girl. that's a guy with balls like u behind the keypad. just like me I'm a guy but my gender shows f too I had used mental imbalance in one of my posts in response to your rubbish. I guess the above post buttresses my take about you. Please continue to wallow in the world of zombies. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Nobody: 11:39pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
naturalwaves:
What was the wrong thing Ighalo did yesterday? You lots are not knowledgeable about football but will come online to form nwa analyst. For your information, Ighalo's physical presence kept the backline of SA at bay and at alert and thus, some other people were free. How many through balls were supplied to Ighalo?
Talking about Chiqueze, he didn't really play well in the 1st game and was just average. Kalu Uche started in that position in the 2nd game and played better.... Kalu Uche also had a better physical presence. The opposition will determine what the coach will play and those at the helm of selecting players are not foools like most of you would like to think. If we would be meeting Ivory Coast, Kalu Uche will start ahead of Chuqueze... Now that it is Algeria, he will most likely start.
You talked about creativity. What creativity was shown against SA aside sending the balls to the flanks and our wingers trying to do something with the ball. Do you mean that if Mikel played, he won't know how to pass or what?
What creative play came from the Midfield against SA aside sitting deep and keeping them at bay?? If you need to express your opinion, freely do. You don't have to be sarcastic. I gave my opinion. It may not be correct. Good point from you anyway. [b] naturalwaves:
What was the wrong thing Ighalo did yesterday? You lots are not knowledgeable about football but will come online to form nwa analyst. For your information, Ighalo's physical presence kept the backline of SA at bay and at alert and thus, some other people were free. How many through balls were supplied to Ighalo?
Talking about Chiqueze, he didn't really play well in the 1st game and was just average. Kalu Uche started in that position in the 2nd game and played better.... Kalu Uche also had a better physical presence. The opposition will determine what the coach will play and those at the helm of selecting players are not foools like most of you would like to think. If we would be meeting Ivory Coast, Kalu Uche will start ahead of Chuqueze... Now that it is Algeria, he will most likely start.
You talked about creativity. What creativity was shown against SA aside sending the balls to the flanks and our wingers trying to do something with the ball. Do you mean that if Mikel played, he won't know how to pass or what?
What creative play came from the Midfield against SA aside sitting deep and keeping them at bay?? If you need to express your opinion, freely do. You don't have to be sarcastic. I gave my opinion. It may not be correct. Good point from you anyway. [/b] naturalwaves:
What was the wrong thing Ighalo did yesterday? You lots are not knowledgeable about football but will come online to form nwa analyst. For your information, Ighalo's physical presence kept the backline of SA at bay and at alert and thus, some other people were free. How many through balls were supplied to Ighalo?
Talking about Chiqueze, he didn't really play well in the 1st game and was just average. Kalu Uche started in that position in the 2nd game and played better.... Kalu Uche also had a better physical presence. The opposition will determine what the coach will play and those at the helm of selecting players are not foools like most of you would like to think. If we would be meeting Ivory Coast, Kalu Uche will start ahead of Chuqueze... Now that it is Algeria, he will most likely start.
You talked about creativity. What creativity was shown against SA aside sending the balls to the flanks and our wingers trying to do something with the ball. Do you mean that if Mikel played, he won't know how to pass or what?
What creative play came from the Midfield against SA aside sitting deep and keeping them at bay?? If you need to express your opinion, freely do. You don't have to be sarcastic. I gave my opinion. It may not be correct. Good point from you anyway. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Nobody: 11:45pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
naturalwaves:
If you counter his inclusion, there are better ways to communicate your objection unlike the way most of you sound like ingrates. I should not be surprised though because that's the same way Nigeria treats her heros. You said Chiqueze can replace Mikel. Do they play the same position? Whether you like it or not, our team is still a bit dysfunctional. I am not saying playing Mikel is the solution but we still have a lot of work to do and yes! Mikel can still play depending on the tactics and the opposition. Our striker barely gets fed with good passes. Chiqueze still has a lot of learning to do...... Passing and crossing. I meant to say we have untapped players of Chukwueze quality who can replace Mikel. We only need to thoroughly discover them. Thanks for your contribution |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Dedetwo(m): 11:47pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
naturalwaves:
What was the wrong thing Ighalo did yesterday? You lots are not knowledgeable about football but will come online to form nwa analyst. For your information, Ighalo's physical presence kept the backline of SA at bay and at alert and thus, some other people were free. How many through balls were supplied to Ighalo?
Talking about Chiqueze, he didn't really play well in the 1st game and was just average. Kalu Uche started in that position in the 2nd game and played better.... Kalu Uche also had a better physical presence. The opposition will determine what the coach will play and those at the helm of selecting players are not foools like most of you would like to think. If we would be meeting Ivory Coast, Kalu Uche will start ahead of Chuqueze... Now that it is Algeria, he will most likely start.
You talked about creativity. What creativity was shown against SA aside sending the balls to the flanks and our wingers trying to do something with the ball. Do you mean that if Mikel played, he won't know how to pass or what?
What creative play came from the Midfield against SA aside sitting deep and keeping them at bay?? Are you a real football fan? What has physicality got to do with soccer artistry? Lionel Messi is barely 5ft 7ins, Raheem Sterling is barely 5ft 7ins and Sergio Aguero is 5ft 8ins. These guys have no physical presence that can scare anybody yet they are forces to be feared in football. Sometimes I feel there is something amiss about Africans in constructive stream of thought. I guess Africans should stop blaming others for their irredeemable backwardness. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naptu2: 4:06am On Jul 12, 2019 |
dominique:
We have played more semifinals than any other African team despite not qualifying all the time. I don't think any team has won more medals than us (bronze in 92, gold in 94, silver in 00, bronze in 02, 04 and 06, gold in 13). We may not have won as much trophies as Egypt Cameroon or Ghana but we have got to be the most decorated. naptu2: I'm not sure, but I think that we still have the most medals in AFCON history.
1976 - bronze
1978 - bronze
1980 - champions
1982 - first round
1984 - silver
1986 - did not qualify
1988 - silver
1990 - silver
1992 - bronze
1994 - champions
1996 - did not attend
1998 - suspended
2000 - silver
2002 - bronze
2004 - bronze
2006 - bronze
2008 - quarter finals
2010 - bronze
2013 - champions
2015 - did not qualify
2017 - did not qualify We had two controversial finals against Cameroon. 1988 when Henry Nwosu's goal was disallowed by the referee and 2000 when Ikpeba's penalty was disallowed by the referee. Cameroon won its first 3 Nations Cups by defeating Nigeria in the final (1984, 1988 and 2000). 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by BankyGee(m): 6:29am On Jul 12, 2019 |
|
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Martin0(m): 8:51am On Jul 12, 2019 |
khiaa:
That's not true at all, for example supposed you grew up with a guy and somewhere down the line he made some bad choices and became a manwhore. Do you think that would make you a manwhore by association? I don't think so ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Martin0(m): 8:52am On Jul 12, 2019 |
khiaa:
Everything is good, I start vacation for 2 weeks next week.
two weeks waow enough day's to rest for you. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by bukatyne(f): 9:45am On Jul 12, 2019 |
XhosaNostra:
No, thank YOU. I'm actually surprised at how you all are are being modest with a touch of humility about it. That never happens lol. ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by bukatyne(f): 9:52am On Jul 12, 2019 |
codeworks: He mentioned top 4 teams and one of the team will win AFCON without including Nigeria
Sad. How can he lead them to victory when he doesn't even believe in them? |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naturalwaves: 10:20am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Dedetwo:
Are you a real football fan? What has physicality got to do with soccer artistry? Lionel Messi is barely 5ft 7ins, Raheem Sterling is barely 5ft 7ins and Sergio Aguero is 5ft 8ins. These guys have no physical presence that can scare anybody yet they are forces to be feared in football. Sometimes I feel there is something amiss about Africans in constructive stream of thought. I guess Africans should stop blaming others for their irredeemable backwardness. Is African football about artistry? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) . If you understand football, you will know that different regions play differently dominant styles. In Asia, extreme speed is a very dominant factor. In Europe flair is a dominant factor. In Africa, Physicality is a dominant factor. I am surprised this needs to be pointed out to you. Is Lionel Messi a CF? How can you compare Lionel Messi to Ighalo. In the centre forward role position, Romelu Lukaku is more suitable than Messi. Is Raheem Sterling a typical Centre forward? Aguero is a very physical player and is one of the few exceptions to the build of a typical no 9. A standard 9 has a certain type of physique and height otherwise he will be sandwiched between big centre backs and crosses will not even be able to find him. If you do not understand this simple illustration, google "what it takes to be a centre forward" or check out all the best CFs at different times and look at their structure. It is rare to have a diminutive player as a CF. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naturalwaves: 10:22am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Daree88:
I meant to say we have untapped players of Chukwueze quality who can replace Mikel. We only need to thoroughly discover them.
Thanks for your contribution Yeah..I get. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naturalwaves: 10:23am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Daree88:
If you need to express your opinion, freely do. You don't have to be sarcastic. I gave my opinion. It may not be correct.
Good point from you anyway.
If you need to express your opinion, freely do. You don't have to be sarcastic. I gave my opinion. It may not be correct.
Good point from you anyway.
If you need to express your opinion, freely do. You don't have to be sarcastic. I gave my opinion. It may not be correct.
Good point from you anyway. Okay bro. One love! Thank you. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naturalwaves: 10:25am On Jul 12, 2019 |
TruthinAction:
Moses Simon. Even though the winning goal in our last match came through a well taken corner kick, on the average, he is not a good winger. He loses more than 70% of the balls he contest with defenders. Ahmed Musa gets through defenders almost all the time. He just needs to make a better finishing. Chukwueze is also very good on the right. He just needs a good coach to get the best out of him. Better! I thought you wanted to say Musa |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by tylann: 11:52am On Jul 12, 2019 |
XhosaNostra: Tylann, show us some patronage on Wednesday as we serve Africa something meaty ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Where have you been xhosanostra, mtisthequbit has been masturbating on you pic since you left ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Dedetwo(m): 11:57am On Jul 12, 2019 |
naturalwaves:
Is African football about artistry? . If you understand football, you will know that different regions play differently dominant styles. In Asia, extreme speed is a very dominant factor. In Europe flair is a dominant factor. In Africa, Physicality is a dominant factor. I am surprised this needs to be pointed out to you.
Is Lionel Messi a CF? How can you compare Lionel Messi to Ighalo. In the centre forward role position, Romelu Lukaku is more suitable than Messi. Is Raheem Sterling a typical Centre forward? Aguero is a very physical player nd is one of the few exceptions to the build of a typical no 9. A standard 9 has a certain type of physique and height otherwise he will be sandwiched between big centre backs and crosses will not even be able to find him. If you do not understand this simple illustration, google "what it takes to be a centre forward" or check out all the best CFs at different times and look at their structure. It is rare to have a diminutive player as a CF. Are you out of your freaking mind? Stop making nonsense of yourself. What the hell is African football when almost the 22 players on the pitch for AFCON ply their football in the regions other than Africa? In fact, your argument above is simply silly. Thank goodness you have agreed that Aguero is a physical player. A person wonders what define your African football and its physicality. I guess the CF must be 6ft 3in or above who is a useless stiff that can hardly control his balance on the field talk less the ball. I do not have time for such illogicality. One of the deadliest strikers in the football is barely 6ft or even shorter. The size of CF is not standard. Coaches usually look for big specimen due to set pieces. Eagles need a skilled striker not a dumbass physical stick such as Ighalo. Most Africans who tend to follow stupid trends in the world are ninnies. Maybe this Gohr seemed to have been sold on the crap that certain size is required for CF. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naturalwaves: 12:32pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Dedetwo:
Are you out of your freaking mind? Stop making nonsense of yourself. What the hell is African football when almost the 22 players on the pitch for AFCON ply their football in the regions other than Africa? In fact, your argument above is simply silly. Thank goodness you have agreed that Aguero is a physical player. A person wonders what define your African football and its physicality. I guess the CF must be 6ft 3in or above who is a useless stiff that can hardly control his balance on the field talk less the ball.
I do not have time for such illogicality. One of the deadliest strikers in the football is barely 6ft or even shorter. The size of CF is not standard. Coaches usually look for big specimen due to set pieces. Eagles need a skilled striker not a dumbass physical stick such as Ighalo. Most Africans who tend to follow stupid trends in the world are ninnies. Maybe this Gohr seemed to have been sold on the crap that certain size is required for CF.
. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by naturalwaves: 12:35pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Dedetwo:
Are you out of your freaking mind? Stop making nonsense of yourself. What the hell is African football when almost the 22 players on the pitch for AFCON ply their football in the regions other than Africa? In fact, your argument above is simply silly. Thank goodness you have agreed that Aguero is a physical player. A person wonders what define your African football and its physicality. I guess the CF must be 6ft 3in or above who is a useless stiff that can hardly control his balance on the field talk less the ball.
I do not have time for such illogicality. One of the deadliest strikers in the football is barely 6ft or even shorter. The size of CF is not standard. Coaches usually look for big specimen due to set pieces. Eagles need a skilled striker not a dumbass physical stick such as Ighalo. Most Africans who tend to follow stupid trends in the world are ninnies. Maybe this Gohr seemed to have been sold on the crap that certain size is required for CF.
Mention the deadly strikers you know worldwide dead or alive that is diminutive like Messi. The one you refer to as a stick is the leading goal scorer at the tournament. You can take that to the bank. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Freksy(m): 1:48pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Dedetwo:
Please shut up already and save yourself from further academic embarrassment. Maybe you thought I am from Sokoto or Katsina. Virtually all your posts have grammatical errors. That too can be embarrassing. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Freksy(m): 2:07pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Dedetwo:
Are you a real football fan? What has physicality got to do with soccer artistry? Lionel Messi is barely 5ft 7ins, Raheem Sterling is barely 5ft 7ins and Sergio Aguero is 5ft 8ins. These guys have no physical presence that can scare anybody yet they are forces to be feared in football. Sometimes I feel there is something amiss about Africans in constructive stream of thought. I guess Africans should stop blaming others for their irredeemable backwardness. Parts of what is ‘amiss about Africans’ are those who see African problems as ‘irredeemable’. |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Freksy(m): 2:26pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Dedetwo:
Are you out of your freaking mind? Stop making nonsense of yourself. What the hell is African football when almost the 22 players on the pitch for AFCON ply their football in the regions other than Africa? In fact, your argument above is simply silly. Thank goodness you have agreed that Aguero is a physical player. A person wonders what define your African football and its physicality. I guess the CF must be 6ft 3in or above who is a useless stiff that can hardly control his balance on the field talk less the ball.
I do not have time for such illogicality. One of the deadliest strikers in the football is barely 6ft or even shorter. The size of CF is not standard. Coaches usually look for big specimen due to set pieces. Eagles need a skilled striker not a dumbass physical stick such as Ighalo. Most Africans who tend to follow stupid trends in the world are ninnies. Maybe this Gohr seemed to have been sold on the crap that certain size is required for CF.
It’s very unnecessary and a start of war with a fellow African. Therein lies one of our problems. Where is the so-called ‘constructive stream of thoughts’ when a submission is prefaced with such abusive remark? |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Horus(m): 4:34pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Tchinaidi(m): 5:53pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
semyman: Don't just feature Mikel Obi again for any Nigeria match The match against iwobi might too tough for iwobi or etebo to handle and Mikel might have to come in to the play with his experience and foresight.The good thing is we are well armoured for a glorious triumph in this tournament |
Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Quarter Final (2 - 1) Full Time by Dedetwo(m): 6:17pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Freksy:
Virtually all your posts have grammatical errors. That too can be embarrassing. Please grammatically rephrase " Save yourself from further academic embarrassment". Anyway, I navigate to this forum to learn from other members. |