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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 6:58am On Jul 15, 2019
MetalJigsaw:
They have their reasons.

¹Algeria are still yet to lose a game, beating a highly rated Senegal along the line-. they've won four out of their five games- a sensational and impressive run of form.

² they are the highest in terms of goals scored and in just five games and conceded just once after scoring nine.

³they have a very deadly, tricky and established winger in their fold ( no need to mention)

But that Super Eagles team we saw against SA is more than capable of brushing them aside.
These three factors I listed really played out last night. The bookies were right.

Algeria draw no bet : 1.86 × 10000= 18,600.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:10am On Jul 15, 2019
Hey guys..

Rise and shine.. nothing still spoil cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:21am On Jul 15, 2019
Danielnino00:


People like Emeka from some godforsaken slum thinks Rohr is the best thing to happen to our football since Okocha..

How many super eagles coaches have actually enjoyed the financial support and patience Rohr has enjoined in the super eagles?
Shuaibu Amodu qualified us for the world cup and also reached the AFCON semi final but we saw how he was treated. Keshi won us the AFCON and reached the world cup round of 16 with a far less talented squad and amidst several fight with his employees but he was sacked...
Who is Rohr compared to them??
Some folks here like Mr Emeka obviously like licking the an*s of everything white...

You have descended too low as dissapointed as you may be about our defeat, WE ALL ARE, but there is no need for gutter language.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 7:25am On Jul 15, 2019
edi287:
Honestly guys - in as much as we don't have great players and all - I don't think Rohr is getting the best out of this team attacking wise.
I feel there is latent attacking potential that could be unlocked with the players we have. Rohr is too Conservative for me.
I'll give him till 2022 but the way his fanboys are defending him is getting frustrating. My guy is not the new Westerhof and never will be.
Let's see what will change in the next two years.

those supporting rohr are just doing so because they afraid of local coaches but they seem not to understand that we need to plan for the long term instead of short term results. The Senegal coach is a young and local coach and they are in the finals after al their previous woes with all their fine players. We need to go local as well and give our local coaches enough time to come up with a playing culture. All this jam body and anywhere belle face we dey play to get results will not win us any title abeg

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 7:28am On Jul 15, 2019
komekn:


With your approach we would have been flogged comprehensively.

The best part of our gam was the midfield.

This game was lost from the wing back positions. They
by passed our midfield and almost similar to what we did to Cameroon. And there was no service to our wingers


However, wing play is not just about dribbling but the final quality ball. Chukwueze and Musa thier final balls were far from accurate and precise.

The situation was further compounded because Algeria had studied Chukwueze in depth. On the occasion he tried to dribble past or outpace them he was neutralised and caged.

Musa actually using raw pace had more successful runs but very poor end product.

But they started defence with attack and attacking our RB and LB. I knew that Awaziem was always the weakest link. To play the wing back position you need pace, intelligence and technical ability.

Awaziem has no pace although he is intelligent with limited technical ability. Did anybody see Awaziem go 1 on 1 and beat anybody

Collins is very limited technically but l assumed he had pace. He is fast but not fast enough.

All the Algerian players were beating our fullbacks for fun all the time and anytime. I was afraid that Awaziem would get sent off because he was getting overrun all the time. He eventually got a yellow.

This was the first area we lost the game. Our full backs could not connect with our wingers. From the beginning they were under pressure and that caused our CB'S to be jittery how we survived the first half and conceding only one goal was a miracle.

I would have played Simon and Aina playing as wingbacks they have better football intelligence and Simon has pace to burn. Aina may not have blistering pace but he better football intelligence than Collins.

My view the game was lost mainly from our wingbacks positions IMO.
Why are you contradicting yourself?


You said we lost the game from our wingbacks because they provided no cover for our Fullbacks FB. How is that different from my proposal of 352, playing a 5-man midfield to provide enough cover for the defense?

Did you check their formation at all? They played a 442. Which translates to a 4-man midfield and that explained why they outplayed us in the middle because we played with a 3-man midfield. That is we played a man less. Etebo and Ndidi were completely overworked and by extension our fullbacks too in Awaziem and Collins.

How else do you intend to curtail such lapse if not by crowding the midfield to provide a fighting chance for players?

Switching to a 352 will give us 3 important advantage.

1. Naturally a 352 formation is a mass-attack, mass-defending formation without all the players particularly running the length and bredth of the field.

2. Your right wing backs and left wing backs will provide excellent support to your defense, midfield and attack at the same time. Aina is perfect for RWB, while either of Musa/Moses is perfect for LWB.

3. The midfield of Etebo and Ndidi will not be overworked and also our attack will have two potent people to disturb their 4-man defense rather than having only Ighalo upfront.



Rohr bottled this match last night.

He should go, and taking Mikel, Ogu, Akpeyi, Ezenwa with him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:29am On Jul 15, 2019
AIG07:
First of all, Congratulations to Algeria.
It's a well deserved victory. they did it in style and inflicted pain on 180 million people.
They edged us out not because they have better players but A BETTER COACH.

I can't believe we still have folks who still want Rohr to stay. Rohr staying is more or else being satisfied with Mediocrity.

Are you not tired with all this Make shift approach. Deploying personel to wrong positions. I knew it was going to backfire. Awaziem has been solid all through but against weaker sides.

I have always said this. Balogun remains our best defender. Rohr axed him without a replacement. He sets up his defense without a ball playing CB.

He and Alloy Chose a comic goalkeeper in Akpeyi (don't even know what to say about this guy). Akpeyi will always be Akpeyi... He went and hide himself behind the wall and couldn't jump/fly.

Rohr had 3years to assemble a team, yet he gave us this shit. I don't know why many celebrate him?
He experimented for 3years with no result. I think we deserve More.

As I have always said, we will never see the true potential of this team under Gernot Rohr.

Well done guys. We live to fight another day.

I don't completely agree with you.

I think until we find a better replacement we should still persevere with Rohr.

What we don't know is the extent to which his hands were tied when it came too scouting and player selection. There are and continue to be other influences.

He is not stupid he knew we had handicaps in midfield and defence. But did we invite enough players to be tested to consider other options, CAPITAL NO.

He did the best with what he had albeit with some very stupid mistakes. Knowing fully well the kind of team Algeria is his selection was not the best. IMO.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:39am On Jul 15, 2019
Danielnino00:


I'll always appreciate Rohr for the good things he has done for our football.. He took us back to the AFCON after 2 failed attempt. He has brought unity into the team, such that hasn't been seen in a while..

But after 3 heatsink charge and considering how much support he has received, we deserve better than this... there's nothing he has achieved that some other coaches haven't..
we have a talented squad on our hand.. A tactically astute coach is needed to help us move forward ...

When you say talented squad do you mean top quality players❓We had two quality experienced midfielders in Etebo and Ndidi.


Iwobi is good but he is not a top quality player hr doesn't have the CONSISTENCY.

But the pertinent word used is squad, which implies a good number of top quality players. We simply do not that's the reality.

In my opinion they did us proud and went beyond thier limited abilities.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:41am On Jul 15, 2019
AIG07:
We see things differently and this is not the first time I'm stating g this...
[b]
Awaziem might not be weak but wasn't solid. He was caught out of position few times. Hardly won ariel duels. He was a makeshift and there is not emotional in that. It was Shehu @the world cu[/b]p.

He has done well to bring stability to the team. But if we must progress we must do so with someone else not Rohr.

When l called Awaziem the weakest link some described me as being biased and negatively prejudiced towards Nigerian born players.

How can you play wing back and have no pace, that's why he plays in Turkey.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 7:42am On Jul 15, 2019
Rohr has tried for our football but he needs to be dismissed for a younger and more tactically sound and brave coach. This team with its array of very talented, young, promising and exciting players is being underutilized by the coach as far as I'm concerned. Rohr is a good coach but he's too rigid, unintelligent and outdated in his tactical approach. Taking time to praise your opposing team and their players before a game does not always pan out well for the psychology and mentality of your own players.
It it causes your players to give unnecessary amount of respect their opponents and it also triggers fear and lack of confidence to the less experienced players of your team.

Yes it's a good thing for a coach to be humble and show respect to his opponents but the magnitude at which our dear coach dispenses it to his opponents without measure is a very bad idea. it threatens our jeopardizes any form of morale and confidence that exists in some of your players especially the less inexperienced ones. A team where you have an already jittery Akpeyi. That would surely worsen his situation.

But the problem is the new coach would most likely restart the team back to square one just like a newly refurbished laptop LOL. I don't pray for such to happen again. It was disaster

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:43am On Jul 15, 2019
Joebie:
Someone who is in the contention for the top scorer in this AFCON should retire. Ighalo is not one of my fav players but lets call a spade a spade. He remains relevant.


100% correct.

In the absence of the desirable the available becomes desirable.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nairalandankrah: 7:54am On Jul 15, 2019
Those who still want Rohr around do not like progress... He has tried his best.. But I can't make the mistake of thinking that HE IS THE BEST WE CAN GET OUT THERE... amaju picnics mood said it all...
Anyways, Am driving off to politics section.. I will be back here after Rohr has been fired... Till then, I comment my reserve...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:55am On Jul 15, 2019
realpoacher:

Why are you contradicting yourself?


You said we lost the game from our wingbacks because they provided no cover for our Fullbacks FB. How is that different from my proposal of 352, playing a 5-man midfield to provide enough cover for the defense?

Did you check their formation at all? They played a 442. Which translates to a 4-man midfield and that explained why they outplayed us in the middle because we played with a 3-man midfield. That is we played a man less. Etebo and Ndidi were completely overworked and by extension our fullbacks too in Awaziem and Collins.

How else do you intend to curtail such lapse if not by crowding the midfield to provide a fighting chance for players?

Switching to a 352 will give us 3 important advantage.

1. Naturally a 352 formation is a mass-attack, mass-defending formation without all the players particularly running the length and bredth of the field.

2. Your right wing backs and left wing backs will provide excellent support to your defense, midfield and attack at the same time. Aina is perfect for RWB, while either of Musa/Moses is perfect for LWB.

3. The midfield of Etebo and Ndidi will not be overworked and also our attack will have two potent people to disturb their 4-man defense rather than having only Ighalo upfront.



Rohr bottled this match last night.

He should go, and taking Mikel, Ogu, Akpeyi, Ezenwa with him

You are saying what l am in principle but with different diction.

Formation are not rigid, they change as the game progresses. If you have a winger who is finding it easy to beat the opposing players 1on 1 and 1 on 2,, that player becomes striker once he gets in the box, for example ronaldo, Zaha, etc.

Whatever formation we played 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 in both the quality of wing back or full back is INTRINSICALLY CRUCIAL.

Awaziem has intelligence but no pace and very limited technical ability. Collins has pace but not blistering buy no intelligence and technical ability.

We are saying the same thing only difference I amusing the term fullback and wingback as being the same thing essentially.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 7:55am On Jul 15, 2019
Tactically the Algerian team were better yesterday.

1.They did their homework well.Caged both Musa and Chukwueze and stopped Ighalo from getting into the box.

I expected the coach to instruct his wingers to play through the middle since the Algerians have blocked the wings.

2.Wrong Sub:Musa was very poor today and should've been subbed b4 Chukwueze but the coach left him because he was the captain.

Onyekuru for Chukwueze was wrong because Onyekuru is a LW not a RW.Most of his goals for Galatasaray came from the left.

3.Prior to the match the coach told his players not to foul anyone close to the box but they failed as the Algerians got the winner from a foul close to the box.

4.Ighalo is poor aerially and not a 9 for counter attack because he is heavy and lacks pace.He is mainly good inside the box as in more of a poacher as most of his goals have been scored from the box.

5.Immobility of full-backs:J.Collins and Awaziem were solid in defence offered very little in attack.One would have expected that since Musa and Chukwueze were caged that the full-backs will start attacking through the flanks.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 7:57am On Jul 15, 2019
MetalJigsaw:
Rohr has tried for our football but he needs to be dismissed for a younger and more tactically sound and brave coach. This team with its array of very talented, young, promising and exciting players is being underutilized by the coach as far as I'm concerned. Rohr is a good coach but he's too rigid, and outdated in his tactical approach. praising your opposing team and their payers before a game does not always pan out well for the psychology and mentality of your own players. It it causes your players give unnecessary amount of respect their opponents and it also triggers fear and lack of confidence to the less experienced players of your team.

Yes it's a good thing for a coach to be humble and show respect to his opponents but the magnitude at which our dear coach dispenses it to his opponents without measure is a very bad idea. it threatens our jeopardizes any form of morale and confidence that exists in some of your players especially the less inexperienced ones. A team where you have an already jittery Akpeyi. That would surely worsen his situation.

But the problem is the new coach would most likely restart the team back to square one just like a newly refurbished laptop. I don't pray for such.


this has always been my major issue with this coach. You are spot on but will many on this forum agree? secondly don't we have principles anymore in determining whether a coach should continue or not. A coach who cannot manage games that are almost ending in a draw loosing in dying minutes. [Argentina and Algeria]. A coach who has now come out to say that his players were thinking about extra time is the reason they lost haba. And finally a coach that has failed to exceed past results of local coaches, we are still debating whether he should go. chai who did this to us. Colonial mentality is our number problem as Nigerians, I just tire

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nairalandankrah: 7:59am On Jul 15, 2019
MetalJigsaw:
Rohr has tried for our football but he needs to be dismissed for a younger and more tactically sound and brave coach. This team with its array of very talented, young, promising and exciting players is being underutilized by the coach as far as I'm concerned. Rohr is a good coach but he's too rigid, and outdated in his tactical approach. praising your opposing team and their payers before a game does not always pan out well for the psychology and mentality of your own players. It it causes your players give unnecessary amount of respect their opponents and it also triggers fear and lack of confidence to the less experienced players of your team.

Yes it's a good thing for a coach to be humble and show respect to his opponents but the magnitude at which our dear coach dispenses it to his opponents without measure is a very bad idea. it threatens our jeopardizes any form of morale and confidence that exists in some of your players especially the less inexperienced ones. A team where you have an already jittery Akpeyi. That would surely worsen his situation good


But the problem is the new coach would most likely restart the team back to square one just like a newly refurbished laptop. I don't pray for such.

Do we go local or international...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:04am On Jul 15, 2019
EEGA:
Tactically the Algerian team were better yesterday.

1.They did their homework well.Caged both Musa and Chukwueze and stopped Ighalo from getting into the box.

I expected the coach to instruct his wingers to play through the middle since the Algerians have blocked the wings.

2.Wrong Sub:Musa was very poor today and should've been subbed b4 Chukwueze but the coach left him because he was the captain.

Onyekuru for Chukwueze was wrong because Onyekuru is a LW not a RW.Most of his goals for Galatasaray came from the left.

3.Prior to the match the coach told his players not to foul anyone close to the box but they failed as the Algerians got the winner from a foul close to the box.

4.Ighalo is poor aerially and not a 9 for counter attack because he is heavy and lacks pace.He is mainly good inside the box as in more of a poacher as most of his goals have been scored from the box.

5.Immobility of full-backs:J.Collins and Awaziem were solid in defence offered very little in attack.One would have expected that since Musa and Chukwueze were caged that the full-backs will start attacking through the flanks which back-fired.

How can you say that Awaziem was solid in defence when within the first 10 minutes he was completely routed. The referee was very generous not have given him a yellow card. The Algerians at a stage were show boating with him.

Collins has no football intelligence just a lot more pace than Awaziem. Mahrez used hin for Suya.

Both of them were scared to come forward and couldn't link with our wingers. This is where the game was lost.

Ekong became jittery and nervous kicking the ball like police to nobody like a league one defender in England. Omeruo was better but he waa getting bullied and nearly conceded a goal if not for a miraculous save by Akpeyi.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Carbon2Oxide: 8:04am On Jul 15, 2019
Tunisia next


Can S.E finish third

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 8:10am On Jul 15, 2019
Carbon2Oxide:
Tunisia next


Can S.E finish third

I think we should

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 8:13am On Jul 15, 2019
Omo naijas Una arrogant sha. The reams of nonsense I have endured reading here this morning has left me gob smacked.

One would have thought we would have learnt some humility after missing the last 2 AFCONs!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:15am On Jul 15, 2019
MetalJigsaw:
Rohr has tried for our football but he needs to be dismissed for a younger and more tactically sound and brave coach. This team with its array of very talented, young, promising and exciting players is being underutilized by the coach as far as I'm concerned. Rohr is a good coach but he's too rigid, and outdated in his tactical approach. praising your opposing team and their payers before a game does not always pan out well for the psychology and mentality of your own players. It it causes your players give unnecessary amount of respect their opponents and it also triggers fear and lack of confidence to the less experienced players of your team.

Yes it's a good thing for a coach to be humble and show respect to his opponents but the magnitude at which our dear coach dispenses it to his opponents without measure is a very bad idea. it threatens our jeopardizes any form of morale and confidence that exists in some of your players especially the less inexperienced ones. A team where you have an already jittery Akpeyi. That would surely worsen his situation.

But the problem is the new coach would most likely restart the team back to square one just like a newly refurbished laptop. I don't pray for such.


You use the term array of top young top quality players implied.

Outside of Chukwueze who are you talking about are you comparing them to the players in the NPFL.

Or is it in comparison to the top young talents in Europe what's your unit of measurement for top talent.

Even Chukwueze l have always said we should be very cautious with him and not put too much expectation on him. He has played one season of professional football that's all. Give him time to develop he has long way to go. Because in this match his blistering pace did not work his skills did not work and his end product and service piece delivery was non existent. The Algerians studied him in depth and completely neutralised him.

Now some will say to ask that question means Hate and negative prejudice. No not all you must compare them to too the top young talent in Europe. And add the question from that perspective.

So apart from him who are our top talented exciting young players.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by cc12(m): 8:19am On Jul 15, 2019
It's not his main wing, his main wing is the centreback wing, he play as a makeshift right back, how many centrebacks have the pace to challenge wingers? Even the goals that Algeria scored weren't from his wing, you are just downplaying his ability because he isn't an innit boy


komekn:


When l called Awaziem the weakest link some described me as being biased and negatively prejudiced towards Nigerian born players.

How can you play wing back and have no pace, that's why he plays in Turkey.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 8:19am On Jul 15, 2019
Going forward, Rohr should be sacked. He has done well no doubt especially in his man management but let the truth be told he has equally been given all the support he needed. Pinnick and the NFF have provided him with atleast 80% support for 3 years which no other coach has enjoyed probably apart from westerhorf.

Rohr should go. His timidity is infectious and cancerous.

In his stead, i am going to propose 3 candidates that i believe are going to give us the style of play that we all deserve and want. Also they come cheap and within our payroll.

I am fortunate to watch almost all the matches of AFCON 2019 and therefore in good stead to make 3 solid suggestions.

1. Mr Nicolas Dupuis (Madagascar/France)

A French man and the current coach of Madagascar team. Madagascar were ranked outside 100 coming into this competition yet their coach was able to make them play fearless with an attacking style to make you grin with envy. Even though they eventually bottled it against Tunisia but they showed the Tunisian's no respect.

They are fit and extremely Athletic, the coach made them so actually. They score freekicks too. They were also composed for the penalty shootouts against Uganda.

Think of what this man did with Madagascar at this tournament and think of what he will do with Nigeria at the World Cup.

If it were Rohr incharge of Madagascar at this tournament, he would have told them they were coming to their first tournament and therefore have no chance against anybody. He would have probably played all 11 players behind the ball against Nigeria. Smh



They benefits of hiring Nicolas Dupuis are immense.

2. Djamel Belmadi (Algeria/Algeria)

He wasn't their coach when we walloped them in Uyo three years ago but he came in after that and improved the team in all aspects. Whereas our coach couldn't do the same for us.

Imagine getting jittery against a team you chewed to threads not too long ago. It only shows your deficiency.

We can hire Belmadi too though with his current stride with Algeria, he will come abit expensive than Nicolas.

3. Muhamed Magassouba (Mali/Mali)

This man used complete rookies and teens at this tournament for Mali yet he played one of the most beautiful, exciting and entertaining football. His squad consisted mainly of Mali's 2013 and 2015 U17 members yet they delivered. It took experience for Ivory Coast to defeat them 1 nil.

While Rohr made us believed that Teens cant play African football, this man proved him otherwise. Attack, Attack and more Attack were the only thing Mali knew, they were only outdone by that solitary Ivory Coast goal by Wilfred Zaha.

......

My submission


I will pick French man Nicholas Dupuis anyday anytime as he currently fits perfectly into what we seek, Good man management, ambitious, cheap, style of play, and available.


.......

Going forward, NFF should stop hiring German coaches as their game play, style are not our way of playing.

Our style of football is the fluid, entertaining and attack minded. The Dutch, French and South American football are what we model after, therefore coaches from there are whom we should seek

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by cc12(m): 8:21am On Jul 15, 2019
How many accurate passes did Chukwueze receive in the last match?

komekn:


You use the term array of top young top quality players implied.

Outside of Chukwueze who are you talking about are you comparing them to the players in the NPFL.

Or is it in comparison to the top young talents in Europe what's your unit of measurement for top talent.

Even Chukwueze l have always said we should be very cautious with him and not put too much expectation on him. He has played one season of professional football that's all. Give him time to develop he has long way to go. Because in this match his blistering pace did not work his skills did not work and his end product and service piece delivery was non existent. The Algerians studied him in depth and completely neutralised him.

Now some will say to ask that question means Hate and negative prejudice. No not all you must compare them to too the top young talent in Europe. And add the question from that perspective.

So apart from him who are our top talented exciting young players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 8:24am On Jul 15, 2019
Rohr is too conservative. He has a squad that can actually poach at least 3 goals in every match against even the tightest defenses. He doesn't take risks. Prefers to pack bus from when the whistle is blown. If SE played all our matches the way we played when we were a goal down against Cameroon and Algeria, we should win this tournament.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:29am On Jul 15, 2019
nairalandankrah:

Do we go local or international...

I would prefer local but the issue of Egunje and other sharp practices has continued to plague our local coaches ad infinitum.

I would not mind the Cameroon combination. Whatever foreign coach we get he must be black. I am sure Sol Campbell and Rio Ferdinand would take the job.

But l think we need to expand the scouting of our players and be more proactive. I don’t know why Ovie, Tega Onomah, Ebere Eze, Dominic Iorfa, Fikayo Tomori, we're not invited. I haven't included Ademola because k haven't spoken to him to know if he interested or heard anything to that effect.

There are others you could include there is no harm in trying them out.

All Francophone African countries are filled with French youth internationals and players born in France predominantly.

I haven't mentioned players in other parts of Europe not because they don't exist but we have overwhelming numbers of Nigerian at all levels of football in the UK. So that's why l haven't mentioned any from other parts if Europe. And I simply don't know them to be honest.

But in addition the England is a quality league and conversely will have more quality players.

Indeed the core of the SE quality players are playing in England or emanated from England.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:31am On Jul 15, 2019
I have said it before, Ahmed Musa is not a winger.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 8:32am On Jul 15, 2019
Have we ever EVER lost a game and it wasn't the "coaches fault" ?

Asking for a friend. Thanks

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:41am On Jul 15, 2019
On a lighter mood, let's cast votes.

Those who think Rohr should be dismissed of his duty after the AFCON should hit the LIKE button

Those in support of Rohr to stay as the gaffer should signify by hitting the SHARE.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:54am On Jul 15, 2019
komekn:


I don't completely agree with you.

I think until we find a better replacement we should still persevere with Rohr.

What we don't know is the extent to which his hands were tied when it came too scouting and player selection. There are and continue to be other influences.

He is not stupid he knew we had handicaps in midfield and defence. But did we invite enough players to be tested to consider other options, CAPITAL NO.

He did the best with what he had albeit with some very stupid mistakes. Knowing fully well the kind of team Algeria is his selection was not the best. IMO.

How can you say we should persevere with Rohr? Did you see the gulf in tactical class? Let us keep result aside.

We lacked intensity which is down to poor personnel selection due to playing dross and conservative for a long time.

I was impressed watching the Algerians from a tactical perspective. How they tightened zones when we were with the ball. Systematically taking out playing chances. Like the repeated cages of Iwobi and Chukwueze.

When it was time for us to build from the back, the Algerians came out in large numbers, nullifying any chance for us to build up from the back. Forcing us to result to long balls with no aim.

See how they gave Ighalo no breathing space. Nullified us from having good goal attempts.

Look at the exploration of spaces with long balls etc.

Rohr had a lot of time to get our team firing on all cylinders but we are still a tricycle instead of a high speed race car.

We need to select a sound tactical coach, with an expansive offensive strategy who will get our team ticking in a short time. Something Rohr does not have to offer.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:56am On Jul 15, 2019
drDoom3:
Rohr is too conservative. He has a squad that can actually poach at least 3 goals in every match against even the tightest defenses. He doesn't take risks. Prefers to pack bus from when the whistle is blown. If SE played all our matches the way we played when we were a goal down against Cameroon and Algeria, we should win this tournament.

It is clear we are far better when we are attacking but the man built the team with a parked bus strategy. Rohr is detrimental to our growth.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:03am On Jul 15, 2019
Amunike remains my pick. If he has the kind of support and time Rohr had, I have no doubt he will build a phenomenal team for us that will play in a brilliant tactical fashion.

Tactics rule the game now and with the talents at our disposal, we can achieve it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:05am On Jul 15, 2019
up super eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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