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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:14am On Jul 15, 2019
See ehn ..let's stop the blame game
None of us here blamed Rohr when we defeated RSA and Cameroon.
We can't just win every time. Most of us here saw the omen some days back. Though it is painful but those team wey crash out at group stage, are they not a team? should they go and commit suicide?
IMO Rohr should not be sack. The NFF should rather employ an efficient tactician to complement him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:20am On Jul 15, 2019
cc12:
It's not his main wing, his main wing is the centreback wing, he play as a makeshift right back, how many centrebacks have the pace to challenge wingers? Even the goals that Algeria scored weren't from his wing, you are just downplaying his ability because he isn't an innit boy



I expected Rohr to bring in Aina for Awaziem instead of substituting Chukwueze.

Awaziem is good as a defender but not good as a RB. It was very glaring.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:21am On Jul 15, 2019
komekn:


You use the term array of top young top quality players implied.

Outside of Chukwueze who are you talking about are you comparing them to the players in the NPFL.

Or is it in comparison to the top young talents in Europe what's your unit of measurement for top talent.

Even Chukwueze l have always said we should be very cautious with him and not put too much expectation on him. He has played one season of professional football that's all. Give him time to develop he has long way to go. Because in this match his blistering pace did not work his skills did not work and his end product and service piece delivery was non existent. The Algerians studied him in depth and completely neutralised him.

Now some will say to ask that question means Hate and negative prejudice. No not all you must compare them to too the top young talent in Europe. And add the question from that perspective.

So apart from him who are our top talented exciting young players.


Aina, Osimhen and Onyekuru are promising players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:23am On Jul 15, 2019
mostob:
See ehn ..let's stop the blame game
None of us here blamed Rohr when we defeated RSA and Cameroon.
We can't just win every time. Most of us here saw the omen some days back. Though it is painful but those team wey crash out at group stage, are they not a team? should they go and commit suicide?
IMO Rohr should not be sack. The NFF should rather employ an efficient tactician to complement him.

If you know Rohr is tactically incapable of moving us forward, why should he lead?

Let us get a capable tactician with modern ideas to move us forward.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Unlimited22: 9:28am On Jul 15, 2019
Algeria were the better team. There's no denying that.


Ndidi is a good tackler, but he still needs refinement. He conceded 3 fouls that led directly to goals at this tourney.


This is the kind of game that Mikel in his heyday would've bossed any day any time.


I don't agree with the calls to sack Rohr. Sack him for whom? Let's give him till at least Afcon 2021. He has done well.


Not to be Captain Obvious, but can we go and beg Enyeama to come out of retirement or TB Joshua (or OPM pastor) to heal Carl Ikeme?


We need at least two more CMs.


Etebo has improved massively, especially with his ability on the ball.



All In all, they did their best. We need to move on from here.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:29am On Jul 15, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Amunike remains my pick. If he has the kind of support and time Rohr had, I have no doubt he will build a phenomenal team for us that will play in a brilliant tactical fashion.

Tactics rule the game now and with the talents at our disposal, we can achieve it.

Abeg commot make we see road.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:30am On Jul 15, 2019
wayodude:
Omo naijas Una arrogant sha. The reams of nonsense I have endured reading here this morning has left me gob smacked.

One would have thought we would have learnt some humility after missing the last 2 AFCONs!


You see i didnt even bother my self

Very arrogant set of people na dem full here

Many people here doesnt know anything about football they only know how to rant.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:30am On Jul 15, 2019
forgiveness:


Abeg commot make we see road.

LOL
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:33am On Jul 15, 2019
Goke7:

this has always been my major issue with this coach. You are spot on but will many on this forum agree? secondly don't we have principles anymore in determining whether a coach should continue or not. A coach who cannot manage games that are almost ending in a draw loosing in dying minutes. [Argentina and Algeria]. A coach who has now come out to say that his players were thinking about extra time is the reason they lost haba. And finally a coach that has failed to exceed past results of local coaches, we are still debating whether he should go. chai who did this to us. Colonial mentality is our number problem as Nigerians, I just tire
You give so much credit and adoration to a team that you are hoping to beat in your next game. Seems like he does not know that psychological intactness is a vital procurement, even in life generally.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:36am On Jul 15, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


If you know Rohr is tactically incapable of moving us forward, why should he lead?

Let us get a capable tactician with modern ideas to move us forward.

Finito.
We won't know the value of what we have until we lose it. Rohr still has his usefulness. He has his shortcomings as well.But if he got sacked at last,I will still wish the team well. One thing is sure,Nothing can satisfy human being.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:38am On Jul 15, 2019
mostob:
We won't know the value of what we have until we lose it. Rohr still has his usefulness. He has his shortcomings as well.But if he got sacked at last,I will still wish the team well. One thing is sure,Nothing can satisfy human being.

We need a coach with tactical class and allows his team play with fluidity and discipline.

Something Rohr does not have.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:39am On Jul 15, 2019
The Untold Story of Emmanuel Amuneke’s ‘Mysterious Football Tactics’ [Won FIFA U17 World Cup In Chile 2015]

By the round of 16 matches, it became obvious to the Technical Study Group (TSG) that Golden Eaglets of Nigeria will eventually win FIFA U17 World Cup trophy again in Chile. Thanks to Emmanuel Amuneke that tutored the boys so well in tactical discipline. He made it seem so easy, as the Nigerian team outright outshine their opponents with superior tactical approach; something that looked fresh out-of-box.



Not even TSG, with their years of experience, could decipher what pattern Amuneke was using. It was incredible how the Nigerian youngsters switched positions at ease. You always found five players crowding the midfield; with play-maker Kelechi Nwakali playing deep, more like a defensive midfielder. But at intervals, he quickly switched into the attacking role as the point-man Victor Osimhen drift away to the wings dragging along the opponent defenders.

https://cheeronnigeria..com/2015/11/the-untold-story-of-emmanuel-amunekes.html?m=1

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:40am On Jul 15, 2019
forgiveness:


Abeg commot make we see road.
lolz if we employ Amunike,some of us we call for his head if our favourite player is not called up. Of we must appoint him,it should be as an assistant to Rohr

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:41am On Jul 15, 2019
We need Amunike's tactical insights and brilliance. When it comes to tactics, he knows it well.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:41am On Jul 15, 2019
Unlimited22:
Algeria were the better team. There's no denying that.


Ndidi is a good tackler, but he still needs refinement. He conceded 3 fouls that led directly to goals at this tourney.


This is the kind of game that Mikel in his heyday would've bossed any day any time.


I don't agree with the calls to sack Rohr. Sack him for whom? Let's give him till at least Afcon 2021. He has done well.


Not to be Captain Obvious, but can we go and beg Enyeama to come out of retirement or TB Joshua (or OPM pastor) to heal Carl Ikeme?


We need at least two more CMs.


Etebo has improved massively, especially with his ability on the ball.



All In all, they did their best. We need to move on from here.
On Rohr,I support you. Sacking the man might be fatal. It has been long since we have a team as organized as this. Instead of sacking him and rebuilding against., why not complement his shortcomings

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Neimar: 9:42am On Jul 15, 2019
Good morning wailers grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 9:42am On Jul 15, 2019
Rhor and perewinkle startegy:
Perewinkle will remain inside its shell until water it is immersed in becomes hot. Our coach plays defensive until his sides concedes before he comes out to play. I noticed this in all our matches especially in the knock out phase. This strategy is counter productive especially when you look at the attacking talents we have.

For those celebrating this semifinal as if it's something new for our football, I weep for you all. When Shuaibu Amodu, was making this same semifinal and qualifying us for worldcup it was not enough abi? How is this coach different from Amodu?

I prefer my team attack like Pep Guardiola's team and not win tournament than play like Rhor/Amodu's team and not still win tournament. I delight in the entertainment part of the game because I'm not loyal to any team asides super eagles.

This guys kept me awake all night. Our coach strategy is nauseating. Our goal keepers and nauseating. Our defence was very okay. It's not as if a team defence should not be breached throughout a match but who you have behind the defenders does not inspire confidence. During the free kick, our keeper took a step in the opposite direction before going for the ball and nobody noticed it.

Rhor should go. This result is not different from what our local coaches would have achieved. Let NFF pick a capable local coach and give the person same working environment as they've given Rhor, let's how it goes. Let them learn on the job as we have done for Rhor.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 9:43am On Jul 15, 2019
An ex international is preferable.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by einsteine(m): 9:46am On Jul 15, 2019
Nigerians always overrate the Super Eagles.

This is a team that has failed to qualify for the previous two AFCONs.

Getting to the Semis is a pleasant surprise.

If you like bring Mourinho, they are not going to play better than this. You can only use the available players and right now, Nigeria doesn't have players to dominate the continent. How many Nigerian players are playing in top clubs?

Rohr is not the problem. Nigeria fans' unnecessary expectations is the problem.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:51am On Jul 15, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


We need a coach with tactical class and allows his team play with fluidity and discipline.

Something Rohr does not have.
Am telling you sir,he will still lack something which will made us want him sacked in future. Since your choice is Amuneke, why not pair him with Rohr. Did you watch how his team played on this tournament? we would have been calling for his head now if he was coaching SE
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:51am On Jul 15, 2019
Rohrs Inability to kill time, as evident in both of the competitions he's been in charge as our coach is a product of his lack of intelligence and pragmatism as a coach. Doing what he ought to do (substitution) and successfully running down the clock would have eased the tension and fatigue on his team and provided time for him to restrategise and talk to his boys. This is Deja vu of the WC.
A familiar mistake knocked us out of the competition.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 9:56am On Jul 15, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Amunike remains my pick. If he has the kind of support and time Rohr had, I have no doubt he will build a phenomenal team for us that will play in a brilliant tactical fashion.

Tactics rule the game now and with the talents at our disposal, we can achieve it.
What if he(Amunike) starts having problem with some key players?

We missed Ebuehi on the right.

It will also be nice to consider Moses Odubajo.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:05am On Jul 15, 2019
EEGA:
What if he(Amunike) starts having problem with some key players.

We missed Ebuehi on the right.

It will also be nice to consider Moses Odubajo.
Does Amunike have problems with his players if I may ask.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 10:12am On Jul 15, 2019
MetalJigsaw:
Does Amunike have problems with his players if I may ask.
Didn't you see the post from a Tanzanian few weeks back?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:22am On Jul 15, 2019
EEGA:
Didn't you see the post from a Tanzanian few weeks back?
Its just an innocent question bro. I never did.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:22am On Jul 15, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Amunike remains my pick. If he has the kind of support and time Rohr had, I have no doubt he will build a phenomenal team for us that will play in a brilliant tactical fashion.

Tactics rule the game now and with the talents at our disposal, we can achieve it.
Thank you TheGoodMind. We have a better attacking masterclass which i believe is due to individual brillances. 11 shots with 6 on target is not poor when compared to their total 8.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:26am On Jul 15, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Amunike remains my pick. If he has the kind of support and time Rohr had, I have no doubt he will build a phenomenal team for us that will play in a brilliant tactical fashion.

Tactics rule the game now and with the talents at our disposal, we can achieve it.
Thank you TheGoodMind. We have a better attacking masterclass which i believe is due to individual brillances. 11 shots with 6 on target is not poor when compared to their total 8. Meanwhile, i don't think Amunike is the right pick.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by caprikon: 10:30am On Jul 15, 2019
We need some humility with regards the SE. Rohr has taken us some distance away from the sorry state we found ourselves post 2014 world cup.
Frankly, I don't see any local coach handling the team as professional as Rohr has been able to..some may postulate that a few are tactical better but they come with way too much baggage.
If the NFF cannot get a foreign upgrade on Rohr, he should be left to continue.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 10:44am On Jul 15, 2019
Musa is not a winger he is a false 9.

He was poor for Leicester City as a winger.

We seem to have forgotten that against Iceland, we played a 3-5-2 with Musa as false 9 on the left.

Musa has the pace but lacks trickery which is essential.It's this trickery that gets you out of tight situations.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:46am On Jul 15, 2019
komekn:


I would prefer local but the issue of Egunje and other sharp practices has continued to plague our local coaches ad infinitum.

I would not mind the Cameroon combination. Whatever foreign coach we get he must be black. I am sure Sol Campbell and Rio Ferdinand would take the job.

But l think we need to expand the scouting of our players and be more proactive. I don’t know why Ovie, Tega Onomah, Ebere Eze, Dominic Iorfa, Fikayo Tomori, we're not invited. I haven't included Ademola because k haven't spoken to him to know if he interested or heard anything to that effect.

There are others you could include there is no harm in trying them out.

All Francophone African countries are filled with French youth internationals and players born in France predominantly.

I haven't mentioned players in other parts of Europe not because they don't exist but we have overwhelming numbers of Nigerian at all levels of football in the UK. So that's why l haven't mentioned any from other parts if Europe. And I simply don't know them to be honest.

But in addition the England is a quality league and conversely will have more quality players.

Indeed the core of the SE quality players are playing in England or emanated from England.




I still wonder who does the selection in the national team.

We need to reinforce the mildfield with fresh players. The likes of Eberechi Eze, Tega Onomah, Ovie, Semi Ajayi (if he moves away from league one), Joe Aribo (if his team gets to play in Europa League and he performs), Ramon Azeez (if he gets to play in the la Liga this season), Abdul Ajagun (if he gets to play in the Belgium Pro League or a better league this season), Azubike Okechukwu (if he gets to play), Nnamdi Ofoborh (if he gets game time in EPL), Dele Bashiru (if he gets to play in a decent league), Aniekeme Okon (he should be given the chance), Kingsley Michael etc. should be tested.


We should draft in more players in the attack to make it competitive.

Lookman Ademola, Issac Success and Noah Bazee should slog it out for the wings position.

We should watch out for Sheyi Ojo (fc Rangers) and Bobby Adekanye (Lazio). They can be a good addition for the RW position alongside with Noah Bazee and Isaac Success. Chukwueze should be given the competition to bring out the best in him.

Lookman Ademola can slog it out with Simon Moses and Henry Onyekuru on the LW. Enough of makeshift players.

Ahmed Musa should be moved to SS or S position.

In the striker position, Olanrewaju Kayode, Taiwo Awoniyi and Sunday Odey should be given the chance to prove themselves. They should slog it out with Osimhen and Ighalo.

We can watch out Josh Maja and David Okereke.

Onuachu!?

In the defence, we need to bring back Idowu to slog it out with Collins on the LB.

Ebuehi and Aina should slog it out for the RB position. Then, Tomori should be chased after to represent us. Uduokhia should be added into the team.

The goalkeeper department is one the problems we have. The goalkeeper trainer should be sacked and replaced with a more competent one. Then, we are good to go.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:50am On Jul 15, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
We need Amunike's tactical insights and brilliance. When it comes to tactics, he know it well.

He knows tactics yet his team dey chop goals. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Drtega: 10:51am On Jul 15, 2019
Ighalo is currently the highest goal scorer .. 4goals 1 assisy

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