safarigirl:


I beg to disagree

The scenarios are different and it has a lot to do with the method of colonialism. The average Francophone African is more welcomed in France than an Anglophone African is welcomed in England.

English system will ALWAYS put their own above any outsiders in everything, irrespective of how great the player is. Do you think 29-year old Nzonzi would have ever played for the English National team at his age? England would rather take a bang average 32-year old PURE English man, than an Nzonzi to the World Cup, no matter how good he is.

England and France are not the same thing as far as players are concerned, and there are some great English players of African descent that will never get to play for England, because of that bias England has.

Wrong.

I believe more Africans hold political posts in England than Africans do in France.

If you're good enough, you'll be chosen. E.g. Dele Ali. The other Nigerians weren't chosen because there were better English players in their position. Would Iwobi at his current level bench Dele? Would Vic Moses bench Trent Arnold or kyle walker? Would Nedum onuoha have benched Micah Richards, John terry or Rio Ferdinand? Plain NO

cc12:
Leave the listed height thing, Kanu Nwankwo is even taller than Alampasu

Have you seen alampasu and KANU stand together?

Or Uzoho and alampasu? I doubt you have

edi287:

When you play for a football crazy country like ours - that's just how it is.
Football is one of the few things that makes us happy so pressure is crazy.
I feel sorry for the guy sha. I think this is a problem short term.

Nigeria is not a crazy country than even egypt self when he comes to football


We are just good in criticism , you call us crazy country when it comes to football an we dont even support our own league?

Many people love to talk while they know nothing, most Nigerians are hypocrites

jihday:
Now confirmed

I'm so happy.

On to the next one.

Good but too inconsistent

Jarus:


I support his quitting now. Ovation is loudest. Better to be begged to stay (and he refuses) than to be disgraced out of the team. We have short memory in Nigeria. If he goes 3 matches without scoring now, we will forget his 12 goals in one year and start calling for his head.

Even at club level, he will stop getting suitors in the next 2 years and will find himself playing 10-12 games a season in Qatar.

I have a news flash for you, any player who goes 3 games without scoring will receive the same treatment but Ighalo as proven he can handle it.

You are only looking at the worst. The same way u are saying this, i could say that Ighalo very well can end up being our all time leading scorer if he stays. Either way we are not palm readers and can't tell the future

darkelf:


Wrong.

I believe more Africans hold political posts in England than Africans do in France.

If you're good enough, you'll be chosen. E.g. Dele Ali. The other Nigerians weren't chosen because there were better English players in their position. Would Iwobi at his current level bench Dele? Would Vic Moses bench Trent Arnold or kyle walker? Would Nedum onuoha have benched Micah Richards, John terry or Rio Ferdinand? Plain NO

Agreed

I have seen it in pictures

darkelf:


Have you seen alampasu and KANU stand together?

Or Uzoho and alampasu? I doubt you have

darkelf:


Wrong.

I believe more Africans hold political posts in England than Africans do in France.

If you're good enough, you'll be chosen. E.g. Dele Ali. The other Nigerians weren't chosen because there were better English players in their position. Would Iwobi at his current level bench Dele? Would Vic Moses bench Trent Arnold or kyle walker? Would Nedum onuoha have benched Micah Richards, John terry or Rio Ferdinand? Plain NO

we we're thought back then in sec sch that when the French colonialists came to Africa they adopted Direct assimilation, i.e they brought their culture, language, food etc directly to the colonized Africans, there is no big difference between a black french and white Frenchman, well except the colour...


In Nigeria for example and all Anglophone countries, British administered a system of Indirect Rule i.e they rule by proxy, they ruled through the traditional chiefs, warrant chiefs, appointed etc... So the lady you quoted was right...

You will see it's very easier to count at least 5 different nationalities in All the French National Teams, Senegalese,Guirneans, malians, Algerians etc...

mank1234:


Give credit to whom credit is due. They did it in scintillating fashion. It's not in every tournament a team has to beat a team in the caliber of Senegal two times to win it. Don't try to downplay their success. The last time we won we were not this convincing.

You're the one trying to force this lie man

I have congratulated(first) the Algerian guy that visits here. You saying they dominated at the finish or defeated Senegal in scintillating fashion is a darn lie

Taliban:

Is Nigeria that they beat. 5-1 in the first game with Emma okocha scored our only goal and we no collet red card o, it was total annihilation. But we picked ourselves up and got to the finals where we lost by a lone goal but put up a great fight in the final. Ayo ogunlan, Friday elahor, rashidi yekini, Andrew uwe, herbert anijekwu, Ben iroha, uche ukechukwu, moses kpakor all giving a good account of themselves.

I wasn't walking this earth that time
I only know the history of AFCON by myself from 2002

Jarus:


The way Algerians abroad are attached to their national team football, not sure Nigerians abroad have that passion for Nigerian national team football..

Go to Gorton, Cheetham Hill in Manchester and Small Lagos Peckham London and you will change that view COMPLETELY.

darkelf:


Wrong.

I believe more Africans hold political posts in England than Africans do in France.

If you're good enough, you'll be chosen. E.g. Dele Ali. The other Nigerians weren't chosen because there were better English players in their position. Would Iwobi at his current level bench Dele? Would Vic Moses bench Trent Arnold or kyle walker? Would Nedum onuoha have benched Micah Richards, John terry or Rio Ferdinand? Plain NO

you don't know how England works

Read on the policy of assimilation and indirect rules

It is easier for a Malian to travel to France than for Ghanaian to travel to England. You dey here dey talk political posts.

Dele Alli that they will soon throw away for Madison?

You don't know England if you think they are fair to immigrants above their own. An immigrant is held to three times as high a standard as their own, it is not the same in France.

Starboytwo:
we we're thought back then in sec sch that when the French colonialists came to Africa they adopted Direct assimilation, i.e they brought their culture, language, food etc directly to the colonized Africans, there is no big difference between a black french and white Frenchman, well except the colour...


In Nigeria for example and all Anglophone countries, British administered a system of Indirect Rule i.e they rule by proxy, they ruled through the traditional chiefs, warrant chiefs, appointed etc... So the lady you quoted was right...

You will see it's very easier to count at least 5 different nationalities in All the French National Teams, Senegalese,Guirneans, malians, Algerians etc...

some people don't understand this thing.
If they know how many Dele Alli's whose careers were killed by the system in England before they could rise, dem no go dey talk like this

The average Francophone African will ALWAYS be welcomed in France before an Anglophone will be welcomed in England. Anyone who doesn't know this is living in a bubble

BascoVanVeli:


I have a news flash for you, any player who goes 3 games without scoring will receive the same treatment but Ighalo as proven he can handle it.

You are only looking at the worst. The same way u are saying this, i could say that Ighalo very well can end up being our all time leading scorer if he stays. Either way we are not palm readers and can't tell the future

The way Ighalo has been treated by many supposed fans on hear and fans in general has been TOTALLY DISGRACEFUL.

Then the way show blatant favoritism not based on performance but just sentiment for some players to the exclusion of others is INEXCUSABLE.

Good morning losers.

Mahrez says Hi btw

Neimar:
Good morning losers.


Mahrez says Hi btw

Good morning, make sure u qualify for 2022 world cup and the next time u shout losers win the AFCON at least for the third term.

komekn:


The way Ighalo has been treated by many supposed fans on hear and fans in general has been TOTALLY DISGRACEFUL.

Is it also disgraceful the treatment being meted on Nacho through this trying times? Ogbeni goan sit down.

Coming from same fake man that would praise Aribo for making it against all odds from Borough, then turn around to downplay the efforts of the boys who made it from the dusty streets of Lagos. U have no shred of integrity and honesty in u

edi287:

When you play for a football crazy country like ours - that's just how it is.
Football is one of the few things that makes us happy so pressure is crazy.
I feel sorry for the guy sha. I think this is a problem short term.

Football crazy country or Castigating,hypercritical,detracting countrymen. We aren't the only country big on football [and actually showing it in terms of followership & genuine fandom] even in Africa. We're just wired to earlymen kind of bullying

Sadiqali24:
Good morning, make sure u qualify for 2022 world cup and the next time u shout losers win the AFCON at least for the third term.

Talking to me??

safarigirl:
you don't know how England works

Read on the policy of assimilation and indirect rules

It is easier for a Malian to travel to France than for Ghanaian to travel to England. You dey here dey talk political posts.

Dele Alli that they will soon throw away for Madison?

You don't know England if you think they are fair to immigrants above their own. An immigrant is held to three times as high a standard as their own, it is not the same in France.

Wrong

It is the same everywhere. The implicit bias in applying the rule of law to African immigrants and traditional French. Even in Job placements, the African has to show that he is 3x as good to get it. I read books and even watched a documentary about the subject.

andrew444:


Nigeria is not a crazy country than even egypt self when he comes to football


We are just good in criticism , you call us crazy country when it comes to football an we dont even support our own league?

Many people love to talk while they know nothing, most Nigerians are hypocrites

God bless you brother

Who has seen the viral video of Egghead Pinnick and what transpired between him and Rohr while Rohr was coming for a handshake during the bronze medal session?

Jarus:


The way Algerians abroad are attached to their national team football, not sure Nigerians abroad have that passion for Nigerian national team football..

Algeria and Egypt are crazy about football even more than the English

safarigirl:


I beg to disagree

The scenarios are different and it has a lot to do with the method of colonialism. The average Francophone African is more welcomed in France than an Anglophone African is welcomed in England.

English system will ALWAYS put their own above any outsiders in everything, irrespective of how great the player is. Do you think 29-year old Nzonzi would have ever played for the English National team at his age? England would rather take a bang average 32-year old PURE English man, than an Nzonzi to the World Cup, no matter how good he is.

England and France are not the same thing as far as players are concerned, and there are some great English players of African descent that will never get to play for England, because of that bias England has.

Historically the political system adopted by France with its colonies was ASSIMILATION.

The policy of the British towards thier colonies was DIVIDE & RULE.

That's what has underpinned the social interaction of peoples and thier relationship in these two countries. Furthermore the French revolution reduced the impact
and furtherance of class structures.

That's not the historical experience of the British although the structure of the peasants and Lords is not in existence officially. The class structures are still very much alive and kicking.

Considering the proposition you have made in the bold that is completely true in the UK.

In the UK people of West African origin have a higher educational attainment level that middle to upper class white children.

But as soon as they leave university that statistic is flipped completely up side down. And you will find Africans who are much more qualified academically and professionally at the bottom rung.

You guys complain of tribalism but you will find racism a bitter pill to swallow.

Football mirrors what happens in UK society in general. How many black managers do you see ❓ ❓ When it comes to objective measured outcome delivery in football i.e. playing the football. Our African and black players are right at the top.

When it then comes to the subjective, intuitive and personal based subject of management that is difficult to measure empirically. You find once again a complete bigoted U turn. There are little or no black managers. And the few who are there get sacked without any sense of rationality or reference to performances but RACIST whims. For example Darren Brown and Chris Houghton.

Look at two of the most badly behaved players in English football Lee Bowyer and Barton. Within minutes if ending thier careers they are managers.

Look at Frank Lampard already one year in management and now manager of Chelsea.

This ratio of bigoted blatant intended racism and discrimination is replicated in all fields of endeavour in the UK. For instance how many investment banks have Black Directors, how many NHS Directors are Black, How many Executive director are black in Blue Chip companies in the UK, etc, etc. Commensurate with ratio of blacks to whites in the population.

I will stop here,.

Odunayaw:
Football crazy country or Castigating,hypercritical,detracting countrymen. We aren't the only country big on football [and actually showing it in terms of followership & genuine fandom] even in Africa. We're just wired to earlymen kind of bullying

Bro that's just how it is. Do you know the kind of ish the likes of Mahrez, Salah, etc go through when they flop?
Football fans naturally have short term memories.

safarigirl:
you don't know how England works

Read on the policy of assimilation and indirect rules

It is easier for a Malian to travel to France than for Ghanaian to travel to England. You dey here dey talk political posts.

Dele Alli that they will soon throw away for Madison?

You don't know England if you think they are fair to immigrants above their own. An immigrant is held to three times as high a standard as their own, it is not the same in France.

If dele is not playing well ,but as far as dele alli is playing well he won't be dropped ,don't make it look like Maddison is a world class player ,he has just played only one season ,Maddison that is still playing for the u21 ? Why not wait till he plays for the 3 lions ,you are already suggesting that southgate might drop him for Ali?

Dele alli that was not in good form in the World Cup yet southgate keep on playing him ,dat one be like who dem go bench easily ?

To make it worst self he is one of the players pochetino can't drop for Tottenham ,if you take a look any Tottenham regular always make the English team

That's how people said they will drop Jamaican Raheem sterling wetin happen now ?

What about Ghanaian welbeck ? Despite not having a good season 2018 he still made England World Cup team ahead of so many pure English boys

Player wey good good abeg ,if you are world class or a little above average England will not drop you for any white boy

Take it or leave it

darkelf:


Wrong

It is the same everywhere. The implicit bias in applying the rule of law to African immigrants and traditional French. Even in Job placements, the African has to show that he is 3x as good to get it. I read books and even watched a documentary about the subject.

I am living personification of that observation in the UK in the last decade or more. Everywhere l have ever been contracted or employed I have always been the most qualified Academically, Professionally and Experentially.

andrew444:


Nigeria is not a crazy country than even egypt self when he comes to football


We are just good in criticism , you call us crazy country when it comes to football an we dont even support our own league?

Many people love to talk while they know nothing, most Nigerians are hypocrites

League talk is a whole different issue. There are reasons that goes beyond patriotism.
Naija is a football crazy nation. I feel bad for Ighalo but that's just how it is.
The pressure no be here.

edi287:

Bro that's just how it is. Do you know the kind of ish the likes of Mahrez, Salah, etc go through when they flop?
Football fans naturally have short term memories.

Salah is like a small god in Egypt ,Egyptians hardly see wrong in salah

I don't know of mahrez ,but if mahrez flopped I am sure nobody will insult his family and kids just as they have done to ighalo

edi287:

League talk is a whole different issue. There are reasons that goes beyond patriotism.
Naija is a football crazy nation. I feel bad for Ighalo but that's just how it is.
The pressure no be here.

And they have to insult his family including his wife and kids

Too bad

Sadiqali24:
Good morning, make sure u qualify for 2022 world cup and the next time u shout losers win the AFCON at least for the third term.

Ignore him. Just another wanna be Afobear.
It was funny at first but it's getting lame now.

andrew444:


And they have to insult his family including his wife and kids

Too bad

It's bad but that's how it is.