seguntijan:


Actions hasn't been done, so they just take precautionary measures base on their words.

When people start getting arrested for talking, your so called democracy is already dead.

koboko69:


Your analysis and example is way of off. Occupy Nigeria started as a normal protest.....then gradually it was turning intp something else....guess what the government did? They deployed soldiers everywhere...is that a lie? Freedom of expression with peaceful protest is different from a revolution.
Like i said b4, no government will watch someone call for a revolution against her government

Then why asking for "our take" when u av already taken a stand.....!!

I laugh in Swahili
Let them continue, they are scared of violence abi? When the real revolution will start, then nahim their eyes go open

WiLdFLame:
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. If you Igbos wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much.

My prayer for you is that the rampaging Boko boys disguised as herdsmen would visit you and your loved ones soon. Then you'll realize that this government has failed in all aspects!

For the records, nobody hates Buhari as a person. We only hate his bad governance!!!

WiLdFLame:
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. No sane Yruba is supporting Sowore. Because we don’t destroy. We build and negotiate. Now Sowore is being supported by the Ibos. Dem don hijack am because they hate buhari with passion. You igbos has always been making bad political decisions in the contemporary. If you Igbos wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much.

You are a disgrace to Omoluabis

WiLdFLame:
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. No sane Yoruba is supporting Sowore. Because we don’t destroy. We build and negotiate. Now Sowore is being supported by the Ibos. Dem don hijack am because they hate buhari with passion. You igbos has always been making bad political decisions in the contemporary. If you Igbos wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much.

To some of us it’s bigger than just Buhari. We want all these leaders eliminated, the real revolution has not started yet sef. The government won’t even get a notice when it starts.

SaintLucia:
So you never hear say armed robbers dey write letter and send it to some particular streets that we are coming to rob you? And you will see the people in that streets trying to do everything possible to prevent such risk, some people in that street may even leave their house for safety. My point Sowore is a fool. [b]Go back and read where revolution has taken place. It has never happened in a Democratic state. [/b]U want to overthrow a legitimate government just because u lost election and want people to wear orange beret that carry your party logo.

U aren't entirely correct in ur comment above that revolution has never happened in a Democratic state

koboko69:


This is Sowere's exacts words


"I'm not talking of protest. I'm embarking on revolution. 85% of Nigerians are in support. Don't tell me about legal implications or what a Judge will say. I don't care. We must bundle Buhari out of that place...."


The clear definition of Revolution is clearly written up there...

Trying to water it down or use ur own narative to suit yiur personal opinions wouldnt change the facts or meaning of a revolution. Again no sane government will watch someone mobilize for a revolution against her government

Though I'm an advocate of a better government and change, I hope this protest of a thing does not get hajacked by the opposition party to topple the government since they are already at the loggerheads over the elections in tribunal. I hope atiku hands are clean in this protest.

gidgiddy:


That's like saying that all young boys should be shot because an armed robber first starts off as young boy, grows into a man, takes up arms and starts robbing people.

Should we kill all young boys because of the possibility that some of them could be armed robbers in the future? No, that would be very stupid. That's how stupid your argument is

Freedom of expression and protest is enshrined in section 39 of the Nigerian constitution. The authorities are bound by law to allow people to freely protest. If the protest turns violent, then the authorities can move in and arrest the violent protesters. That is how civilised countries act

You are on point. That's like a preemptive attack. Which was how Saddam was attacked. The argument was that Saddam would cause trouble one day so let's get get rid of him now before he does. Same argument was made on Gaddafi.

After all said. The word revolution was a wrong choice. Even though we know that's not what he probably meant, he played into their hands with that word. Let's see how events turn out.

The arrest of the man is a great development to the nation, remaining FFK and runaway terrorist Kanu

lexy2014:


U aren't entirely correct in ur comment above.

U for counter my comment na

SaintLucia:
U for counter my comment na

I will do that. According 2u, "Go back and read where revolution has taken place. It has never happened in a Democratic state."

Ukraine was a democratic state when in 2004, it experienced d orange revolution. We also had cases in Brazil and South Korea involving Dilma Rousseff and Park Geun-hye respectively. Brazil& South Korea are democratic countries

izombie:
you had to drag igbos into this again. What concerns the igbos with this thread? Are igbos planning any protest or revolution now? I don't knlw why you people keep saying igbos hate buhari. Igbos do not hate buhari, we just know him for who he is and what he stands for. And so far, buhari's actions have justified the stand of igbos. Violence and death give buhari a hard on.
Enjoy your next level.

Sowore is now an Igbo man. Leave d deluded donkey alone.

koboko69:

Some of u have really short memories or let me say deliberate amnesia. Was it a fulani government that deployed soldiers during occupy Nigeria, was it a Fulani Government that deployed soldiers nationwide to sieze newspapers and invade newsmedia houses? Weather fulanuli, yoruba or igbo government, will the government sit and watch someone threaten a rovolution? Stick to the topic and stop all these childish rants.

Unfortunately this does not answer the question

You are right, the word 'REVOLUTION NOW' shouldn't have been the right tag for the protest especially when he mentioned we want a new Nigeria. Those words can mean a lot of things. Even in the western words like France, a peaceful protest turned to riot, even the one going on in Hong Kong too, it started peacefully and now leading to violence and we all know in Nigeria we don't have those kinds of police that can manage riot without using life bullet. I guess he should have used a lighter word to tag the protest. I believe it's never too late and the changes can be made and the protest can still go ahead peacefully.

Stillthebest:


Thanks sir. U too

please listen to Endee Ikeji.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-xlKDSQQ4

And please share with friends and families... You don't have to thank me... I'm deeply sad that my country has been overrunned with belligerents..

gidgiddy:


In Nigeria that has serious security challenges, they are chasing people around because of choice of words? How is an unarmed Sowore going to force a change government? With his orange beret? If a country like Nigeria that has other groups who are killing people daily and the security forces are more interested in the type of words Sowore uses, it means Nigeria isnt a serious

People are being killed every day, your security forces is busy chasing around those who used wrong choice of words. I laugh in Chinese

How do we know he's unarmed? We don't know that... We took him by his word... Revolution

lexy2014:


According 2u: "Sowore shouldn't have used the word 'revolution' a protest will do".

We are talking about choice of words& d kind of message they transmit. I didn't ask whether he is fighting 4 Shiites or not. What word did d Shiites use? Revolution or protest?

I don't no what u mean by "well educated people use proper vehicles to channel a course". Maybe u can shed some light on it as well as ur comment that "Warriors don't fight like commoners". Who are d "warriors" and who are d "commoners"?

Lol I don't much much strength. But; the word 'revolution' means a FORCEFUL TAKE OVER/OVERTHROW of a system you don't believe in while 'protest' means an action of expression of disapproval of a system or it's total objection. Such could even a statement.

I'm not lecturing you, just trying to let u know I know what I am saying. Remember Shiite were protesting the release of their leader that's unjustly kept after series of court orders that requested his release. They never mentioned REVOLUTION but it became bloody at the latter. If they had wanted it to become bloody you know they partly fulfilled their missions without pronouncing that they wanted a bloody protest. Such corroborates my views as to not use the word REVOLUTION.. The word is rigid. You conceal your tactics to enemies.. 21 laws of powers.


Well educated: What I meant by that is still the use of that word. To fight a Govt involves being tactical. Words are vehicles. Before a fight words must have been sent beforehand. So words in this case, are vehicles.

Warriors: Sowore is aged in struggles from school days to MKO, till date. His online portal is more of comradeship conveying. So he's a warrior. And commoners are people who are not as exposed as he's(arbitrary pls; commoners and warriors are relative in this case and not all round defined)

I might bot satisfy your needs but I just tried to be explicit. Thanks.

gidgiddy:


In civilised countries, if some says they will do you harm, you report the police. It will be the job if the police to take from there.

However, this has nothing to do with what is being discussed. Sowore asked people to come out and join him in protest, which is his constitutional right. The fact that he called his protest a 'revolution' is what people are making noise about.

Firstly, i want us to gain from this discussion and not like the usual NL rants and counter rants, the reason i used that analogy.
Now, let me point out the elements of my previous message so that u will get a clearer picture on how it relates with the topic:
1, The BAD neighbour threatening fire on the other guy = Sowore's threat on Buhari's govt (We must bundle Buhari out of that place)
2, The BAD guy suspecting the other of dating his gf = Sowore suspecting Buhari heading a bad governance.
3, Either it is relevant or not, BEEF has already been established by Sowore since he contested and lost election against Buhari and that was the same beef the BAD guy had against the progressing other guy.
4, BAD guy fraternizing with DEADLY guys means Sowore, fraternizing with proscribed Organization (IPOB) leader, Nnamdi Kanu recently and reflecting freedom of a proscribed group, IMN leader in his REVOLUTION agenda, is a huge threat to any reasonable govt and the word THREAT can transmogrify to Felony if not taken care as immediate as possible. That was the reflection of the BAD neighbour fraternizing with purported dangerous enemies of the other guy.
5, Finally, you mentioned that you will allow police to step in which exactly was done by the government, so where did they get it wrong sir?

I laugh at Sowore and those trusting in him.

First and foremost, revolution for what? If there's going to be a revolution, it should be based on these two issues:

(1) The poor state of the economy

(2) The very high levels of corruption.

Let's talk on corruption first

The present squalid state of economy is primarily Buhari's fault. His Statist, welfarist leftist and populist policies are responsible for the present poor state of the economy. But let me ask, will a revolution lead to an improvement in the state of the economy.?

The truth is no. It will actually worsen things. Revolutions are usually characterized by populist utopian ideals or delusions by the revolutionists and the populace.

Tough economic medicine that can get the economy purring again with a much bigger bang will be taboo. Any economic measure that will be plainly (people loved being deceived or why else aren't seething over the high cost of rice) seen to bring discomfort to the people will be thrown out the door.

The oil subsidy will be untouchable. The bloated civil service will either remain bloated or the government will even add more staff and pay them ridiculous salaries. The multiple exchange rates may remain and so on.

This only compounds things and within a short while,inflation will hit 40% or more annually. Msny companies will shut down There'll be a brain drain of the sort of people the country can least afford to lose.

Rather than a revolution, simply implement policies that will really take the country to the next level. End multiple exchange rates, cut company taxes to no more than 15%, bring down the protectionist walls, end fuel subsidies and deregulate the price, utility users should start paying market rates for services provided, downsize by 40% the size of the civil service and so on.

These policies can only be implemented by a well learned technocrat and that can be achieved through the ballot box. Look at what Akeredolu is doing in Ondo and he's been there barely 2 years.

A partial example of what I'm saying is South Africa. The handover from minority white and racist rule to the majority black ANC in 1994 was in some way revolutionary. But has black majority rule brought prosperity to the blacks after 25years.

The answer is a profound no. The country has populist labour laws introduced by the ANC which discourages employers from hiring, saddling the country with very high unemployment rates. The country has not privatised a single publicly owned corporation. South Africa is reported to have the worst income distribution in the world, with the blacks bearing most of the brunt.

What about corruption?

A revolution will have just a little or no dent on corruption. One just has to take a look at Ukraine. Despite the revolution there some years back, corruption remains high.

People will just become more clever at hiding their loot and not be as brazen with the display of it. Also, because the revolution will only make people poorer, this will only increase the urge to steal and thereby fuelling it the more.

Nigeria recently had something close to a revolution. In 2015, the nation rejoiced when Buhari win brought an end to the PDP era in governance and bringing "CHANGE!".

Have things changed for the better or worse? For the economy, economic growth rate fell from the average of 6% per year before Buhari's ascendency to 1% average from 2015-2019. Bloomberg forecast that the economy will grow on average 2.5% per annum over the next 4 years meaning real growth rate will be negative.as population growth rate is 2.6%. That means over the next 4 years, the average Nigerian will become poorer.

This revolution like many others is simply a mass of blind people led by their blind master. A ditch full of misery, next level misery, awaits them.

There's a clear difference between a revolution and a protest. A revolution is a movement to remove a government or a system that's not working- think coup. While a protest is a display of grievances just to upturn systems or change certain policies - think picketing and placards etc. A democracy would support a protest but I wouldn't think a government will support a revolution.

bakescos01:


You are right, the word 'REVOLUTION NOW' shouldn't have been the right tag for the protest especially when he mentioned we want a new Nigeria. Those words can mean a lot of things. Even in the western words like France, a peaceful protest turned to riot, even the one going on in Hong Kong too, it started peacefully and now leading to violence and we all know in Nigeria we don't have those kinds of police that can manage riot without using life bullet. I guess he should have used a lighter word to tag the protest. I believe it's never too late and the changes can be made and the protest can still go ahead peacefully.

Which word did d Shiites use? Which word did tuface use when he was planning something similar?

gidgiddy:


In Nigeria that has serious security challenges, they are chasing people around because of choice of words? How is an unarmed Sowore going to force a change government? With his orange beret? If a country like Nigeria that has other groups who are killing people daily and the security forces are more interested in the type of words Sowore uses, it means Nigeria isnt a serious

People are being killed every day, your security forces is busy chasing around those who used wrong choice of words. I laugh in Chinese

When was the last time did you take Nigeria a serious Country... You saying Nigeria is not a serious Country is a familiar slogan that is very popular among a section of the South... Only Northerners believe in Nigeria, and we will continue to keep it united.

When I opened this thread I thought the guy is coming from an unbiased perspective but when I read through his response I got disappointed. You don't ask for people's opinion when you think your opinion is supreme. You don't insult people because they don't agree with you.

We are all into this. Things were bad during Jonathan's govt and "occupy Nigeria" protest was organised.

Most of the people ruling us today were part of the protest. There were no arrests that time. We were able to achieve something. That I think is democracy.

Don't let us close our eyes to injustice just because we feed from the remnants of the government. Let us be a tool for our future.

I stood to occupy Nigeria.

And now I stand for revolution.

enfuse:
There's a clear difference between a revolution and a protest. A revolution is a movement to remove a government or a system that's not working- think coup. While a protest is a display of grievances just to upturn systems or change certain policies - think picketing and placards etc. A democracy would support a protest but I wouldn't think a government will support a revolution.

Based on ur last sentence & entire analysis, pls which one did d Shiites do in Abuja? Was it a protest or revolution? What of d one tuface was trying to organise some time ago, was it a protest or a revolution?

grandstar:
I laugh at Sowore and those trusting in him.

First and foremost, revolution for what? If there's going to be a revolution, it should be based on these two issues:

(1) The poor state of the economy

(2) The very high levels of corruption.

Let's talk on corruption first

The present squalid state of economy is primarily Buhari',s fault. His Statist, leftist populist, welfarist and populist policies are responsible for the present poor state of the economy. But let me ask, will a revolution lead to an improvement in the state of the economy.?

The truth is no. It will actually worsen things. Revolutions are usually characterized by populist utopian ideals or delusions by the revolutionist and the populace.

Tough economic medicine that can get the economy purring again with a much bigger bang will be taboo. Any economic measure that will be plainly (people loved being deceived or why else aren't seething over the high cost of rice) seen to bring discomfort to the people will be thrown out the door.

The oil subsidy will be untouchsble. The bloated civil service will either remain bloated or governments will even add more staff and pay them ridiculous salaries. The multiple exchange rates may remain and so on.

This only compounds things and within a short while,inflation will hit 40% or more annually. Msny companies will shut down There'll be a brain drain of the sort of people the country can least afford to lose.

Rather than a revolution, simply implement policies that will really take the country to the next level. End multiple exchange rates, cut company taxes to no more than 15%, bring down the protectionist walls, end fuel subsidies and deregulate the price, utility users should start paying market rates for services provided, downsize by 40% the size of the civil service and so on.

These policies can only be implemented by a well learned technocrat and that can be achieved through the ballot box. Look at what Akeredolu is doing in Ondo and he's been there barely 2 years.

A partial example of what I'm saying is South Africa. The handover from minority white and racist rule to the majority black ANC in 1994 was in some way revolutionary. But has black majority rule brought prosperity to the blacks after 25years.

The answer is a profound no. The country has populist labour laws introduced by the ANC which discourages employers from hiring, 0saddling the country with very high unemployment rates. The country has not privatised a single publicly owned corporation. South Africa is reported to have the worst income distribution in the world, with the blacks bearing most of the blunt.

What about corruption?

A revolution will have just a little or no dent on corruption. One just has to take a look at Ukraine. Despite the revolution there some years back, corruption remains high.

People will just become more clever at hiding their loot and not be as brazen with the display of it. Also, because the revolution will only make people poorer, this will only increase the urge to steal and thereby fuelling it the more.

Nigeria recently had something close to a revolution. In 2015, the nation rejoiced when Buhari win brought an end to the PDP era in governance and bringing "CHANGE!".

Have things changed for the better or worse? For the economy, economic growth rate fell from the average of 6% per year before Buhari's ascendency to 1% average from 2015-2019. Bloomberg forecast that the economy will grow on average 2.5% per annum over the next 4 years meaning real growth rate will be negative.as population growth rate is 2.6%. That means over the next 4 years, the average Nigerian will become poorer.

This revolution like many others. I simply a mass of blind people led by their blind master. A ditch full of misery, next level misery, awaits them.

U didn't mention d way forward

Livefreeordieha:
please listen to Endee Ikeji.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-xlKDSQQ4

And please share with friends and families... You don't have to thank me... I'm deeply sad that my country has been overrunned with belligerents..

Will do. That's Nigeria for us.

Revolution ko, resolution ni. Person fail exam he say him wan burn school. Na prison he go old.

If a revolution doesnt happen, Nigeria will remain the same. its very clear that our leaders dont have the common man at heart. They are all selfish.
#9jaMustBeta

Puerto Ricans, an example.

Stillthebest:


Will do. That's Nigeria for us.

please do bro.. Even some nitwits both voluntary and involuntary ones might accidentally get a brain reset listening to it..

huptin:


You are a disgrace to Omoluabis

omoabiradinu niboboyen... Gbagbe

lexy2014:


I will do that. According 2u, "Go back and read where revolution has taken place. It has never happened in a Democratic state."

Ukraine was a democratic state when in 2004, it experienced d orange revolution. We also had cases in Brazil and South Korea involving Dilma Rousseff and Park Geun-hye respectively. Brazil& South Korea are democratic countries

Honestly u know nothing about the concept of Revolution. Revolution in Ukraine 2004? Brazil, South Korea? I'm very sure you will tag what is happening in Hong Kong and what recently happened in France as Revolution.