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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by enfuse(m): 10:31am On Aug 04, 2019 |
lexy2014: Words are very strong- protests have been known to deteriorate to revolutions. But starting a movement with the word 'revolution' represents something else but peaceful and so no government will sit and watch. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by VULCAN(m): 10:35am On Aug 04, 2019 |
This would have made a bit more meaning if it wasn't coming from a confirmed BMC. As it is it is nothing but tripe. Anybody that can sing praises of this present govt has been cheaply bought. How can a country that is not at war be losing thousands of soldiers and civilians monthly to terrorists yet the President was a soldier? No wonder he never got any stellar result in all the courses he undertook in the Army. Always coming bottom of the class. In 2022 he will attempt to change the constitution to enable a third term and bastard BMC's will come out to support it. All the pains that Nigerians are going through will be repaid in the lives of Buhari supporters and their children after them. So much pain and poverty in the land. Tufiakwa! 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Urchman200: 10:36am On Aug 04, 2019 |
koboko69:oga how should people protest?because Buhari protested and take over from Jonathan. Is obvious that this government is not interested in opposition, but anarchy is looming. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by baganas: 10:45am On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy:Revolution is by definition violent. I think that's why the OP begins by giving us the meaning of revolution. The organisers use the wrong tag RevolutionNow, no government will sit back watch |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Urchman200: 10:45am On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy:u are really making sense man ,most time arguing with one whose conscience has already been morgeted is a wast of time, because he will always see things from that monthly stipend that is been paid to them. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by femy080: 10:50am On Aug 04, 2019 |
Onigbindemmd:it seems you are tipsy |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by almayda: 10:50am On Aug 04, 2019 |
Only irresponsible one...which man will stand and do nothing if his family wants to revolt. 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 10:51am On Aug 04, 2019 |
enfuse: U still didn't answer d question: "Which word did d Shiites use? Which word did tuface use when he was planning something similar?" |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 10:56am On Aug 04, 2019 |
SaintLucia: SaintLucia: These were ur exact words when I told u that u weren't entirely correct about revolution not happening in democratic countries. Funny enough, u haven't countered my comments. What I expected of u since u say I don't no&that u are an expert on d subject of revolution, is to tell me how& y d instances I made don't qualify as revolution |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Nobody: 11:05am On Aug 04, 2019 |
Stupid and crazy e-warriors who only rant here on nairaland. They will only speak here to fool sowore that they are behind him. Na wetin una want make e happen to tubaba be this Im go dey rot for jail while u people go dey with u a own families Crazy and stupid fools |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by SaintLucia: 11:05am On Aug 04, 2019 |
lexy2014:I have countered your comment when u mentioned Ukraine, South Korea and Brazil and I realized that you don't know the difference between revolution and protest. Sorry I'm off cos I don't think you are ready to learn. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by enfuse(m): 11:13am On Aug 04, 2019 |
My comment is with regards to the post - No responsible government will watch a revolution but a democracy should allow a protest. On your question? Both Shitte and Tuface's demonstrations were tagged 'protests' and not a revolution. Whatever overcomes presented itself from those protests had no relationship to my consideration of the topic under discussion. My take on this topic is exclusive of other events and similar protest. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Dicko007(m): 11:14am On Aug 04, 2019 |
koboko69:person wey no fit identify Boko Haram leader name.... una dey try following up with this guy .. the boko haram guy name is muhammed yusuf and not Dikko Yusuf 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by enfuse(m): 11:17am On Aug 04, 2019 |
My comment is with regards to the post - No government will watch a revolution but a democracy should allow a protest. On your question? Both Shitte and Tuface's movements were tagged protests and not a revolution. Whatever happened in the cases afire mentioned is mutual exclusive to the topic under discussion. lexy2014: lexy2014: |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 11:19am On Aug 04, 2019 |
SaintLucia: U haven't said anything& u haven't countered anything. U haven't said WHY d cases of Ukraine, South Korea and Brazil aren't revolutions. Give me d REASONS WHY u feel they aren't that is if u have any. If u have already learnt what u claim that I don't no, then it wouldn't b difficult 4u to share what u say u no. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by CaptainFM1: 11:21am On Aug 04, 2019 |
koboko69: Words have "no single meaning" until you contextualized it. The violence often starts when you refuse to dialog but rather deploy machine guns on unarmed protesters. There can be revolution without violence and there has been cases of peaceful revolution in history. Government have drawn the first sword for a protest that is yet to take off. This is simply not democracy anymore. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 11:22am On Aug 04, 2019 |
enfuse: Now since u say "a democracy should allow a protest" and u say d Shiites and Tuface movements were tagged protests and not revolution, y then did d govt violently clamp down on d Shiite protests& also threatened d same for Tufaces planned protest? |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by enfuse(m): 11:28am On Aug 04, 2019 |
lexy2014: My comment has nothing to do with the outcome from similar protests. My comment was based on using the word revolution for your protest or movement. Now, if you want to consider the way protests have been handled by the government, then that's another topic. My response was purely centered on the topic. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 11:28am On Aug 04, 2019 |
Boyooosa: That's why I said Nigeria is not a serious country. If the Nigerian government left other armed and deadly groups out there that are killing people daily to consider an unarmed Sowore, who has never been known to be violent, a security threat then Nigeria is an embarrassment. The government does not know what it is doing. They will see an unarmed Kanu who didn't touch anyone, tag him a terrorist They will see an unarmed Sowore and arrest him because he called his planned protest a 'revolution' But if it is armed killer herdsmen, they will rush to give them Ruga If it is armed Niger Delta militants, they will rush and give hem amnesty If it is armed Boko haram, they will release them after rehabilitation They clamp down on those who are not armed then treat those who are armed killing like movie stars. Just laughable |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Dicko007(m): 11:30am On Aug 04, 2019 |
koboko69:guy you've tried to explain the revolution thing but is now left for discerning mind to get the message. many of us can read and write but definition of EDUCATION no too reflect in our way of assimilation |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by tobiasbeecher: 11:32am On Aug 04, 2019 |
WiLdFLame:Ranting of a poorly educated yoruba man |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by brightalo17: 11:41am On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy:Who's deciving you? |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 11:46am On Aug 04, 2019 |
enfuse: Ur comment has everything 2do with d outcome of similar protests. If u say that Sowore shouldn't have used "revolution" to tag his movement & that cost him his freedom, then there's no harm in looking at other botched planned and actual protests and to c what words were used in those instances. Every other protest including this are about d right of Nigerians to protest irrespective of whether u call it revolution or not. Cos if u say d govt won't tolerate d use of d word "revolution" for a protest, y did d same govtnot tolerate other protests that were just simply tagged protests and not revolution? |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by CaptainFM1: 11:50am On Aug 04, 2019 |
midolian: You are partly correct. Government can prevent without infringing on the constitutional right of the people. Regarding the "CBN analogy", what government should, and would do is to reinforce/fortify the apex bank from being robbed and or investigate the motive behind the letter. In any case, they will be charged to court even for writing such letter. On the other side of the argument, it will be very wrong for government to arrest on the basis of preemptive measures if the individual is not charged to court. So the fine red-line limit between "Government Preemptive" measures and the "Revolutionary Movement" protest can only be determined by the judiciary. Government would be erred if they don't charge Sowore to court on Monday. 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 11:58am On Aug 04, 2019 |
Stillthebest: Let me begin by quoting JFK when he said that "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." Which means that there are two types of revolution, violent and nonviolent. What happened in Sudan this year which led to d fall of d Omar al-Bashir govt,wasn't a violent revolution. D only violence recorded was that meted out to protesters by security agencies. Same can b said of d Arab spring particularly in Egypt which was called a "social media revolution". So ur definition that revolution is "forceful takeover/overthrow", isnt universal& doesnt apply in all cases. D whole idea behind revolution isn't always necessarily "violent takeover", but institutional changes that will result in better living 4d people. When a govt responds poorly to these ideals, it then gets messy, hence d quote from JFK. So according 2u, d Shiites were protesting because a court order had been given 4 their leader to b released. That means, they were well within their rights to PROTEST. D keyword here is PROTEST which u said Sowore should have used instead of revolution. So if d Shiites according 2u protested, y then did d govt clamp down on them? So am not too sure about d mission u say d Shiites fulfilled and how that corroborates ur view on how not to use d word "revolution". U said: "Well educated: What I meant by that is still the use of that word. To fight a Govt involves being tactical. Words are vehicles. Before a fight words must have been sent beforehand. So words in this case, are vehicles." When tuface tried to organise a protest against this govt some time ago, what words did he use? What are d ideal words u can use to fight govt? U said: "Warriors: Sowore is aged in struggles from school days to MKO, till date. His online portal is more of comradeship conveying. So he's a warrior. And commoners are people who are not as exposed as he's(arbitrary pls; commoners and warriors are relative in this case and not all round defined)" So how does this explain ur comment that "Warriors don't fight like commoners"? |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by bewla(m): 12:01pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy:was arm use in SUDAN before the government was overtrone |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by BigBashiru: 12:05pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
koboko69: Fukin selfish niggaz so it's the fact that he may keep a small proceeds of donations for himself that it paining u? He deserves the compensation. His actions has causes national dialogue and is a catalyst for change.... |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Rainbow219(m): 12:11pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
This is the very first time I understand this SOWORE is pure criminal. Am thinking of giving him my vote in 2023 general election, but now I definitely change my mind. Advisably ELECTROCUTE the criminal now not tomorrow inorder to serve as warning to others |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by chukel(m): 12:14pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
King44:bro, sorry to say this. It's your depositions that are bereft of any iota of sense. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by BigBashiru: 12:18pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
Rainbow219: The black race is cursed!! So in ur eyes buhari is good and Sowore is bad. The black race is cursed. I repeat the black race is cursed! |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by iwantolive: 12:19pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
WiLdFLame:This is not about Ibos or yoruba..this is about Nigeria,is about calling our politicians to order.Do you like this Nigeria of today? |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 12:25pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
midolian: Was d democratic system of which buhari is a beneficiary created 4d black man? Or is buhari not a black man? |
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