finalboss:
A better question would be why would a loving God kill children in the first place.

This is what the bible says.

(4 Kings 2:22-24)
22.So the waters were healed unto this day, according to the saying of Elisha which he spake.
23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

finalboss:

This is what the bible says.

budaatum:

You lie sir! The Bible never said anything! What you have is what someone wrote in a book called the Bible and which you read and now claim was an action by God.

finalboss:
someone ??

finalboss:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3fsearch=2%2bKings%2b2:23-24&version=KJV&interface=amp

budaatum:

I happen to know you are intelligent, and not lazy. Is it not true that what is written there are the words of some human? Would you in fact deny that it is the sort of thing that the sort of lazy person I responded to here might write? Have you been infected with that persons disease?

Explain to me where God was involved.

budaatum:

I happen to know you are intelligent, and not lazy. Is it not true that what is written there are the words of some human? Would you in fact deny that it is the sort of thing that the sort of lazy person I responded to here might write? Have you been infected with that persons disease?

Explain to me where God was involved.

Chidorx60:
oga budataaum are u making sense na,
Please reread your post again

Chidorx60:


For the question ,God is a loving God but he is also one to execute judgement on defaulters and also at that period their really was no special grace available to people as Jesus had not done his messiach work ,so their punishment was passed immediately.

I advise u all to repent and stop Battering words,the end time is near whether u believe or not.

budaatum:

Why should I reread my own post again when I wrote it, read it and posted it? Does it not make sense to you, or just don't you like the sense it makes?

You read it and tell me what you understand by it.

budaatum:

Don't advise me. It is very clear that the wages of sin is death, but God does not go about killing sinners so I don't know why anyone would be peddling some juvenile theology as if the person they talk to were two years old! If you can't communicate on adult level do let me know.

Chidorx60:
your philosophies would have made sense if I was a shallow Christian,but I will put it to you straight I am not a shallow Christian,
I have seen the power behind the word u claim to have been written by people.

I have experienced the workings of Jesus Christ the righteous, I am not a religious fanatic but a declarer of the wonderful things I have seen and heard.

So their is no making sense from what you said Sir

finalboss:
A better question would be why would a loving God kill children in the first place.

This is what the bible says.

(4 Kings 2:23-24)

2.So the waters were healed unto this day, according to the saying of Elisha which he spake.

23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

If I thought that story was anything more than a myth, I would be aghast. How could modern Christians believe in a God who would do this to little children?

Some people realise how embarrassing this passage is for theism and seek to mitigate the impact by saying that the victims were youths or young men, not little children — as if that should make a difference.

Although I believe this event never really happened, I do not support a religion that would delight in a story about the divine killing of little children

MuttleyLaff:
1/ Where do you read in all there, that God sent two bears to maul them kids to death, erhn?
2/ A much better question would be, is God less, a loving God, watching as Jews and Co, planned and then eventually killed His Son in the first place?

budaatum:

You mean, "it makes no sense to you", and so be it. You would not be the first to elevate the Bible to God status and bow down and worship it instead of reading and understanding what is written in it. If you did you would understand the Power of the Word and would not dare disobey the following rule!

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

budaatum:

You mean, "it makes no sense to you", and so be it. You would not be the first to elevate the Bible to God status and bow down and worship it instead of reading and understanding what is written in it. If you did you would understand the Power of the Word and would not dare disobey the following rule!

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Shepherd00:

Funny enough, Elisha didn't even invoke the power of God to destroyed the kids. He barely cursed them in the name of the Lord.

budaatum:

Don't advise me. It is very clear that the wages of sin is death, but God does not go about killing sinners so I don't know why anyone would be peddling some juvenile theology as if the person they talk to were two years old! If you can't communicate on adult level do let me know.

Chidorx60:


Its pretty much the same thing, anything done in GODS name by his prophet is calling for his intervention,
Except maybe u think invoking God is only calling out fiery fire balls from the heavens

Shepherd00:

The death that sin brings about is not the physical death, it's spiritual. What the Bible calls Second death. Everyone, including Christians die the physical dead, not the Second.

SIN DOES NOT KILL PHYSICALLY, IT KILLS SPIRITUALLY.

God does not need to go about killing Sinners, for anyone who is not in Christ is dead already.

Chidorx60:


And sir who are u,your personal text is of that of a moslem,ur moniker is bhudist and here u are quoting the holy bible ,sir do u know ur stand

Shepherd00:
The death that sin brings about is not the physical death, it's spiritual. What the Bible calls Second death. Everyone, including Christians die the physical dead, not the Second.

SIN DOES NOT KILL PHYSICALLY, IT KILLS SPIRITUALLY.

God does not need to go about killing Sinners, for anyone who is not in Christ is dead already.

budaatum:

You can make up who you want me to be if you so wish and if that is your concern here. I am not here to peddle my own righteousness or lack of thereof.

You might want to read about hubris here.

Chidorx60:

Sir u identity is one out of the 7 billion or more people on planet earth, I shouldn't really be bortherd If you choose not to disclose anything about ur beliefs, so you are free to keep ur righteousness or unrighteousness to urself.
Thank you

MuttleyLaff:
"When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned."
- Romans 5:12

"So you see, just as death came into the world through a man, now the resurrection from the dead has begun through another man."
- 1 Corinthians 15:21

Everything you've so far written on this page I concur with except for this particular comment about physical death. The death that sin brought was both physical and spiritual death. It was delayed physical death and instantaneousness spiritual death. Death essentiall in both cases is a dividing line, a separation as it were to speak

Shepherd00:
Okay.

budaatum:
No one is suggesting the death is physical, Shepherd, please get with the program!

The question I pose here is whether God goes about spiritually killing sinners, or whether the sin itself is the spiritual killer.

budaatum:

No one is suggesting the death is physical, Shepherd, please get with the program!

The question I pose here is whether God goes about spiritually killing sinners, or whether the sin itself is the spiritual killer.

Shepherd00:
Sin is the Spiritual killer.

MuttleyLaff:
Sin is both the physical and spiritual killer