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Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by obembet(f): 7:23pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
It is a question that has both fascinated and bored football fans in equal measure for years, but we may finally have an answer over just who is better between Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo . It all depends on whether or not you agree with computer scientists from Belgium's KU Leuven university, who claim to have come up with the definitive formula to determine just which one of the old rivals is the better footballer. As reported by Sporza in Belgium, professors at the university have teamed up with Dutch data specialists SciSports to come up with something called Valuing Actions by Estimating Probabilities (VAEP), which they say gives the answer to the eternal Messi-Ronaldo question. The formula looks at the players' all-round games, and claims to take into account everything that they do on the pitch in both attacking and defensive roles. "The value of a soccer player is often determined by goals and assists," said Jesse Davis , a professor at the university. "A goal is a rare event, however, because an average of 1,600 actions are estimated to occur in a match. Our model looks at each action - shots, passes, dribbles, tackles - and calculates its value." So, to the bit you're here for. Data was analysed from the 2013/14 season up to the end of 2017/18 when Ronaldo left Real Madrid , and after feeding the results through their supercomputer - at least we presume it is pretty super - the researchers found that it is Messi who comes out on top. And by quite a long way. The Argentinean comes out with a VAEP score of 1.21 per game, which is much higher than Ronaldo's 0.61. "In the first seasons, Messi and Ronaldo's scores are very close to each other," says PhD student Tom Decroos , who helped with the research. "From the 2015/16 season, Messi has stepped away from his eternal rival." Decroos went on to elaborate on how Messi differs from some of the modern greats when it comes to the formula. "We see a trade-off with most football players: either they make a lot of actions with a less high value - that's the case with Paul Pogba, for example," he said. "Or you have players who are less likely to hit the ball, but who have a big impact. That is typical of strikers like Harry Kane, Mohamed Salah and Ronaldo. "Messi is exceptional in this area: the Argentinian has a very high number of actions and they also have a high value." So there you go. Case closed. That all depends on whether or not you like the answer. Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/supercomputer-determines-who-better-between-18969139.amp 51 Likes 5 Shares
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Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Natoski5(m): 7:29pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Pure bullshit!!! ![]() ![]() You people should stop been sentimental.. Messi is been feed with world class player in barcelona, cr7 is a lone warrior . As he day play for him country waytin u see? ![]() ![]() Make he leave barca weda he go still get mouth. Talking about achievement? Cr7 has it more..so what else? Messi is good, buh cr7 is better!!.. 194 Likes 20 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by thesicilian: 7:32pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Messi is like a local government chairman while Ronaldo is like the president of the country. Ronaldo has proven himself in different leagues in different nations, while Messi is afraid to leave his comfort zone in Barcelona. 152 Likes 15 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by shilenji(m): 7:37pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
ftc ,you head is yet to be correct, why do you use calculator.ignorant being. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Nobody: 7:46pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Natoski5:and ronaldo is moving to already made teams, if ronaldo wants to prove a point that he's greater than Lionel messi, he should have moved to CA Osasuna in LA liga instead of real Madrid, he should also moved to SS Lazio in serial a instead of juventus. Both juventis and real Madrid have been winning trophies before ronnaldo and are one of the biggest clubs in each of their respective leagues. Messi has played under different coaches and teammates, his performance hasn't changed and he still leads, imagine messi going to PSG or Bayern Munich, are you telling me messi won't score or win trophies their? Lol ronaldo fans are dumb sha . Every world class players, coaches and legends have all said messi is the greatest, no wonder messi is living rent free inside ronaldo head,you people are obsessed with a player that don't care about individual glories 390 Likes 37 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Nobody: 7:57pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
thesicilian:messi is like that loyal local government chairman that use all the resources available to him to build his constituency while ronaldo is like a president that loot his country money and deposit it in other countries 194 Likes 10 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Raydos: 8:08pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Those that say messi is the best player: "Guardiola, Mourihno, Klopp, Rio-Ferdinand, Ibrahaimovic, Mane, and so on Those that say Ronaldo is the best player: "Bet9ja guys, barbers, bricklayer, carpenter!"" 336 Likes 29 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by drips8(m): 8:15pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
That supercomputer is obviously right 165 Likes 8 Shares
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Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Natoski5(m): 8:17pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Igbosmoker:.. Sorry mehn I dnt argue with kid... 39 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by gatecrash123: 9:24pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Natoski5:and u think u av sense. 184 Likes 9 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Dizzyrascal(m): 9:25pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Hahahaha ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 48 Likes 8 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Dizzyrascal(m): 9:27pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
obembet:Hahahaha cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy. Me laughing after reading the comments before my reply. This particular debate has no end because, fans of each player differ depending on viewpoint. But it is poignant to note that RONALDO has tested his mettle in different leagues/conditions and has come out tops. Ronaldo is good in the air, good with free kicks, uses both his right and left legs to devastating effect, is blessed with speed, can dribble past players, can provide that odd assist if the need arises. Infact, he built the start of his career on providing assist for teammates. I stand by my word that RONALDO is the most COMPLETE player in history........ 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Dizzyrascal(m): 9:30pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
obembet:Hahahaha.... Me laughing after reading the comments before my reply. This particular debate has no end because, fans of each player differ depending on viewpoint. But it is poignant to note that RONALDO has tested his mettle in different leagues/conditions and has come out tops. Ronaldo is good in the air, good with free kicks, uses both his right and left legs to devastating effect, is blessed with speed, can dribble past players, can provide that odd assist if the need arises. Infact, he built the start of his career on providing assist for teammates. I stand by my word that RONALDO is the most COMPLETE player in history........ 8 Likes |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by wunmi590(m): 9:37pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Abeg let's settle this once and for all. We can't allow computer to be dictating for us. For Ronaldo click like For Messi click share 63 Likes 241 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by fdd2: 9:37pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
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Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Lamasta(m): 9:37pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Its C.Ronaldo or I won't watch football again ![]() 10 Likes |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by SouthSouth1914: 9:37pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Super computer is biased and judgmental. Humans created super computers and are wiser!! There is no comparison between Cr7 and Messi.. Comparison should start when Messi leaves Barca! But wait, why compare both of them? They are geniuses in different ways! 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by ManspaceBarber(m): 9:37pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Messi oo , C.Ronaldo oo, they are both super megastars. The comparison is not worthwhile. Let's continue enjoying entertainment from them while they shine. I have good deal on Barça and Juve jerseys. 4 Likes
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Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Olarewaju89: 9:38pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
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Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Mightyhaiz: 9:38pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
I think so too. Ronaldo himself is very insecure and feels so much need to compare himself with the GOAT many a time 29 Likes |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Chukwurah003: 9:38pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
The supercomputer must have a bug 3 Likes |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Afam4eva(m): 9:39pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
If you need a super computer to tell you that Messi is better than Ronaldo, then your head needs to be checked. 46 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by emperorzz(m): 9:39pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
The computer probably think they mearnt Ronaldo d'alima. They should go for specifics. 2 Likes |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Mentorkaryhm(m): 9:39pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
A real king doesn't control one jungle. Show me a great player that played only in one league. You can mention skills, dribbles and scoring abilities, but don't let all these be synonymous to a particular environment. Using every parts of the body in goal scoring is also a factor to considered. Right legs Left legs Head. 6 Likes |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by gurunlocker: 9:39pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Super computer? Everyone with brain knows that.... only Ronaldo himself and his fan are so obsessed with Messi, always finding the slightest means to compare and make people believe he is the best. Sadly, Messi does not have the time ![]() 48 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Kaceman(m): 9:39pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Whether Ronaldo better or not dem go still compare am with Messi |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by EmmyDJourno: 9:40pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Messi is the best Human to ever have a ball at his feet Ronaldo is the greatest player to ever come out of Europe Both players must win the World Cup to be called the greatest of all time You can't dominate in Europe and be called the best globally 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by damoceile: 9:40pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Igbosmoker: can any of those small teams you mentioned afford CR7's service?? but we have all these oil rich club cc running after Messi and he keeps refusing them all in the name of been loyal to Barcelona 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by royalamour(m): 9:40pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
![]() Ronaldo will always be the best period. If you are pained, go and hit your head on the wall. 4 Likes |
Re: Leo Or Cristiano? Supercomputer Thinks Messi Is 'much Better' Than Ronaldo by Ezedon(m): 9:40pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
The two GOAT |
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