SkimpleD:



No wonder ....

I go injure you skimple

Segedinho:

We are saying thesame thing Bro

[/b]KDB was good but surprising salah overtook him.[b]
Therefore he was better and won the PFA making KDB inferior to it.

[/b]Hazard was better than every 1 and no surprises was strong enough to overtake him,u can't overtake or beat 100/100.[b].


My point is KDB was overtaken maybe cos his contribution wasn't strong enough maybe 93/100

Unlike in the case of Hazard were no other players were able to match him let alone overtaking him.

Until he is able to grab it without any surprise,he might be considered inferior to the prize making him below.and certainly sit down whenever PFA wch is the highest EPL award winners are called upon.

U get...

What is wrong with you ? Salah had a freak season which will be enough to win the PFA award for every season for the last ten if not 15 season with only Suarez coming close and you are bringing up hazard. Dont let me remember when Sanchez was robbed by Kante .What exceptional season did hazard have that you are yarning dust up and down. Overtake ko supercede ni. By your logic Scholes and Lampard are inferior to Kante?

pamcode:
Kane has won just two. One more than Aguero. I am not saying he was cheated at anytime but that for Injury he would have won one or two himself. Kane himself as you pointed out is a victim. I believe he would have won last season Golden boot if he wasn't injured towards the end.

Kane has won 'just' two despite playing in a far inferior team to Aguero.

It was on this thread that someone posted xA and big chances stats, and we saw that Aguero has been playing with the league's best creators.

If you want an award that says you're the best - you have to BE the best.

You can't say Aguero deserves Poty award, and then start giving excuses why he's only been the top striker once in 8 years.

Kane dey carry 2 months injury, doesn't score in August, plays with inferior teammates, and still outscored Aguero...he doesn't have two heads.

Swissh:

What is wrong with you ? Salah had a freak season which will be enough to win the PFA award for every season for the last ten if not 15 season with only Suarez coming close and you are bringing up hazard. Dont let me remember when Sanchez was robbed with us .What exceptional season did hazard have that you are yarning dust up and down. Overtake ko supercede ni. By your logic Scholes and Lampard are inferior to Kante?

Scholes and lampard were good but maybe sum 1 sprang up with a better season.thus were better.

Are u among the elite PFA award givers to know sum was robbed or not


KDB was not better enough and he lost to a better player in salah

It is as it is

Segedinho:


Scholes and lampard were good but maybe sum 1 sprang up with a better season.thus were better.

[/b]Are u among the elite PFA award givers to know sum was robbed or not[b]


KDB was not better enough and he lost to a better player in salah

It is as it is

Scholes and Lampard never won PFA so by your logic they are inferior to Kante. You said so yourself saying kdb is inferior to others who have won the award. Your words not mine.

At the bolded that's seriously dumb. We question awards given when they are not on merits and when they are better candidates. Most people question Modric winning the balon d'or and when Messi was ranked 5th last year so spare me your bias. Sanchez was levels above Kante that season.

Kdb lost to a player who had a superior season no argument from me but you admitted it yourself that it took a player having a freak season to stop him from winning the award something hazard never had to contend with.

Swissh:

What is wrong with you ? Salah had a freak season which will be enough to win the PFA award for every season for the last ten if not 15 season with only Suarez coming close and you are bringing up hazard. Dont let me remember when Sanchez was robbed by Kante .What exceptional season did hazard have that you are yarning dust up and down. Overtake ko supercede ni. By your logic Scholes and Lampard are inferior to Kante?

Kante robbed Alexis Sanchez to win the PFA ,Football writers players Award and Best French player in 2016. For real ? You're delusional. What's the logic behind your argument?
Kante, Hazard, Ibrahimovic and Harry Kane were front runners for that award not even Sanchez, the money miss road Man united signing.

Ibime:


Sharrap. That's one of the weakest PFA win since Ryan Giggs in 2009. They only gave it to a member of the Championship.team cos there was no undeniable performance in.EPL that year. They could also have given Costa without much debate. On individual performance, Alexis and Harry Kane could argue they deserve it.

When you talk of extraordinary performance, you talk of Henry, Ronaldo, Bale, RVP, Suarez, Salah, that's it.

Any other winner is due to team success or other factors like lack of outstanding candidate. Hazard 18/19 season was far better than his 14/15 season for example and yielded no PFA.

We had argued this before and you wouldn't still agree. It's not about scoring useless goals against Calabar rovers and became useless when you faced Manchester utd. Hazard against all the top teams that season either assisted or scored. In fact I can't forget his important winning goal against De gea, that was crucial to our winning the league. He was also the man of the match.

I know you like numbers and stats, hence your reason for bringing Sanchez and Kane close. You hate Hazard, until recently when you wanted him to go to a bigger club. So I can easily dot the i's and cross the t's.

Hazard was so good that Mourinho put him behind Ronaldo and Messi as the bests in the world. He gave us vital points especially when Costa dropped tools and we won the league.

It's a deserved one and not about padding goals against derby county but when there is a London derby they are found running away to Manchester.

Ibime:


Sharrap. That's one of the weakest PFA win since Ryan Giggs in 2009. They only gave it to a member of the Championship.team cos there was no undeniable performance in.EPL that year. They could also have given Costa without much debate. On individual performance, Alexis and Harry Kane could argue they deserve it.

When you talk of extraordinary performance, you talk of Henry, Ronaldo, Bale, RVP, Suarez, Salah, that's it.

Any other winner is due to team success or other factors like lack of outstanding candidate. Hazard 18/19 season was far better than his 14/15 season for example and yielded no PFA.

What nonsense is this? Harry Kane and Alexis Sanchez on Hazard's individual performance level in 2014/2015 ? Common mehn!
It's obvious you do not like Chelsea and Eden Hazard but who cares?
I'm sure you're one of the sore losers who call themselves Arsenal fans.

larride:


Change mind ke. I just felt it was pointless to continue the argument considering the kind of person airmark is.

Being taking it cool with your snide remarks lately, I may not be nice to you next time you leave argument and attacking me.

muyiwaadekunle1:




Kante robbed Alexis Sanchez to win the PFA ,Football writers players Award and Best French player in 2016. For real ? You're delusional. What's the logic behind your argument?
Kante, Hazard, Ibrahimovic and Harry Kane were front runners for that award not even Sanchez, the money miss road Man united signing.

Na Ibime give that one mind to chat shlt.

Those with good number of goals should win it. They don't care if most are tap ins against weak teams.

Swissh:

Scholes and Lampard never won PFA so by your logic they are inferior to Kante. You said so yourself saying kdb is inferior to others who have won the award. Your words not mine.

At the bolded that's seriously dumb. We question awards given when they are not on merits and when they are better candidates. Most people question Modric winning the balon d'or and when Messi was ranked 5th last year so spare me your bias. Sanchez was levels above Kante that season.

Kdb lost to a player who had a superior season no argument from me but you admitted it yourself that it took a player having a freak season to stop him from winning the award something hazard never had to contend with.

Waht is freaky season? ?

An outstanding performance 4m a player and this I pointed out before.

Kante did something amazing (u could term it freaky) and he won it ahead of its contenders.

Lampard Scholes and Kante didn't play in the season kante won it so comparing these trio is dumb.

Modric won it cos of his outstanding performance in the world cup;also he was good as well in the UCL i.e he sprang up 4m nowhere to win it ahead of the people u mentioned earlier (freaky as u termed it)so spare me that.



Mind u I am not arguing abt who is better bw hazard and KDB using PFA as a yardstick. ..nah

My point is...if u haven't won it yet then u weren't the most outstanding player in ur department.

Hazard and every others were better than the rest in relation with their task thus were able to win it...

muyiwaadekunle1:




Kante robbed Alexis Sanchez to win the PFA ,Football writers players Award and[b][/b] Best French player in 2016.[/b] For real ? You're delusional. What's the logic behind your argument?
[b][/b]Kante, Hazard, Ibrahimovic and Harry Kane[b] were front runners for that award not even Sanchez, the money miss road Man united signing.

Don't annoy me with your rubbish and show us the 6 players nominated for the award in 2017. Hazard and Ibrahimovic will strangle you if they see this rubbish.

Segedinho:


Waht is freaky season? ?

An outstanding performance 4m a player and this I pointed out before.

Kante did something amazing (u could term it freaky) and he won it ahead of its contenders.

Lampard Scholes and Kante didn't play in the season kante won it so comparing these trio is dumb.

Modric won it cos of his outstanding performance in the world cup;also he was good as well in the UCL i.e he sprang up 4m nowhere to win it ahead of the people u mentioned earlier (freaky as u termed it)so spare me that.



Mind u I am not arguing abt who is better bw hazard and KDB using PFA as a yardstick. ..nah

[/b]My point is...if u haven't won it yet then u weren't the most outstanding player in ur department. [b]

Hazard and every others were better than the rest in relation with their task thus were able to win it...

Lampard and scholes never won the PFA award. Are they not among the most outstanding players in their department?

pamcode:
Well I can't speak for him but he said poor 'lone' striker so he might be not implying he was a useless player.

He actually didn't rate Aguero mainly because of that.

If you are a striker and you can't function well as a lone striker, you are not a great one. He accepted this so no need dragging it.

Swissh:

Lampard and scholes never won the PFA award. Are they not among the most outstanding players in their department?

They were but some1 else was better in his department than they were in theirs,in a given season thus the accolades. ..

Swissh:

Don't annoy me with your rubbish and show us the 6 players nominated for the award in 2017. Hazard and Ibrahimovic will strangle you if they see this rubbish.

Sorry, it was 2016/2017 season.

airmark:



We had argued this before and you wouldn't still agree. It's not about scoring useless goals against Calabar rovers and became useless when you faced Manchester utd. Hazard against all the top teams that season either assisted or scored. In fact I can't forget his important winning goal against De gea, that was crucial to our winning the league. He was also the man of the match.

I know you like numbers and stats, hence your reason for bringing Sanchez and Kane close. You hate Hazard, until recently when you wanted him to go to a bigger club. So I can easily dot the i's and cross the t's.

Hazard was so good that Mourinho put him behind Ronaldo and Messi as the bests in the world. He gave us vital points especially when Costa dropped tools and we won the league.

It's a deserved one and not about padding goals against derby county but when there is a London derby they are found running away to Manchester.

Hazard win in 2014/15 is not undisputable on individual level no matter how much you try to make it seem so. It was a derivative of team success and the fact no other player had an undisputable season. Sanchez, Kane or Costa could have won it and nobody would cry murder.

Many players have had better seasons and not won PFA including Hazard in 18/19. It is not a hands down performance worthy of the hype you wish to ascribe to it.

Segedinho:

They were but some1 else was better in his department than they were in theirs,in a given season thus the accolades. ..

Good now we are getting some where . So if Lampard and scholes who where outstanding players and regarded as top5 in their position in the league despite not winning the PFA award why can't that apply to De bruyne and why is not winning the award used against him when talking about his quality as a player?

Segedinho:

They were but some1 else was better in his department than they were in theirs,in a given season thus the accolades. ..

Not always. Ryan Giggs 2009 season was undeserved and could easily have gone to someone else. Players voted for him cos they were inspired to see an old man still playing well, yet in the grand scheme of things, I think he played only half the minutes available.

SkimpleD:

Give him another chance to redeem himself abeg

I'm weak bro, he's lost, clearly doesn't even know what I am talking about

Hazardfan1:


I'm weak bro, he's lost, clearly doesn't even know what I am talking about

Werey . Oya answer the question

muyiwaadekunle1:



Sorry, it was 2016/2017 season.

Go and sin no More .

Ibime:



Hazard win in 2014/15 is not undisputable on individual level no matter how much you try to make it seem so. It was a derivative of team success and the fact no other player had an undisputable season. Sanchez, Kane or Costa could have won it and nobody would cry murder.

Many players have had better seasons and not won PFA including Hazard in 18/19. It is not a hands down performance worthy of the hype you wish to ascribe to it.

Was it robbery cos hazard won it ahead of the players u mentioned? ??

Debate is quite personal depending on how u like A n dislike B.

Do u know dat some persons can still tell u that salah winning it ahead of KDB isnt worth it

People can still argue with u that Modric winning the best player ahead of cr7 was worth it??

Ur personal taught is urs nd urs only..


When u are nominated nd screen to best 3,then u guys are worth to win it,this give right to many other criteria since it is meant 4 just 1 person. ..

Ibime respect Sir for your clarity of thought and objectivity. I will like to be like you when I grow up.

Swissh:

Werey . Oya answer the question

I'll answer only when you can differentiate between 'where' and 'were'

Hazardfan1:


I'll answer only when you can differentiate between 'where' and 'were'

That meins you will sleep there

Ibime:


Not always. Ryan Giggs 2009 season was undeserved and could easily have gone to someone else. Players voted for him cos they were inspired to see an old man still playing well, yet in the grand scheme of things, I think he played only half the minutes available.

U should end it with "my opinion"

Was his display able to bring him into the top 3

Was his display topnotch dat season

Why was he voted 4

If u talking about age...Scholes even in its old age was never given..

It is what u bring that will definitely define u.

Swissh:

Good now we are getting some where . So if Lampard and scholes who where outstanding players and regarded as top5 in their position in the league despite not winning the PFA award why can't that apply to De bruyne and why is not winning the award used against him when talking about his quality as a player?

Nice one

airmark:


Being taking it cool with your snide remarks lately, I may not be nice to you next time you leave argument and attacking me.

Show me the snide remarks I have being saying against you.


If telling you that sometimes you need to accept that you are wrong and move on (Which you don’t do by the way) is snide remarks, then sorry, I’m not sorry.

Swissh:

Good now we are getting some where . So if Lampard and scholes who where outstanding players and regarded as top5 in their position in the league despite not winning the PFA award why can't that apply to De bruyne and why is not winning the award used against him when talking about his quality as a player?

PFA defines ur importance in a given season
KDB could be better than Hazard in a given season but kante better than everyone in same season n the accolades given to him.

PFA shows hazard was one time the best player in his career whereas KDB hasn't in its EPL lifetime.

Debating a better player is not tied to PFA alone...

Ibime:
Surprised to read here that Vardy won PFA PPOTY award. Vardy never won it, Mahrez did. It could equally have gone to Kante or Vardy and not many would argue.

PFA is often a toss up between 3 or 4 players, usually from the Champions and any of them could win it.

In all my time watching English football, the only undisputed PFA winners are Henry, Ronaldo, Bale, RVP, Suarez and Salah. These are guys who won it "hands down" with World Class seasons. Every other win has been debatable. Winning PFA is not a differentiator when comparing players except for the names above.

i no gree for salah own. That one na big lie.
KDB had a very strong case for that award and the vote showed it.


Why did you not add that of Kante? Is it because he is not a player that scores goals?
Did Kante not have a trully world class season?

You are spoiling football with your logic o.
To you the best players are only those who score goals