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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:05pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Ibime:this falsehood that you keep preaching here, one day i will have the time to debunk it. Like i said earlier, your problem is the glass that you use to watch a player. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:07pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Ibime:this falsehood that you keep preaching here, one day i will have the time to debunk it. Like i said earlier, your problem is the glass that you use to watch a player. If a player does not score or assist; he had a bad game. I wonder why you didn't come here to shut people up when they were saying that ndombele had a bad game in Tottenham's first game 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:12pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Greatihex: Attackers get rated on goals and assists whether you like it or not. Yes, you could have good games without goals and assists like Bernardo Silva, but that will not qualify you to claim best player when killers are talking. Wetin concern me with Ndombele. Is he Chelsea player that I have to comment on his every game. From what I watched he had a poor game 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:14pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Swissh:which sanchez did Kante rob? You must be imagining things. You should be saying that Kante robbed hazard, not one sanchez |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:14pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Ibime: You were here when people trolled him last season that how many goals did he score against the top 4 teams, which was a good point and i never took them on. That's to show you how you could get useless numbers like Sanchez that season and would lead you to no trophy. How do your numbers push your team to win you trophies? What were the impacts of Hazards dribbles, key passes, chances created, assists, goals to the success of his team in 2014/2015 compared to Kane and Sanchez? When both Hazard and Sanchez met, Hazard dominated and even won a pk which he converted. Sanchez was so poor, he was substituted.for Podolski. Sanchez choked in most big matches that season unlike Hazard, which was essential to our triumph. Goal and assists stats are not the all in all. Aubameyang won golden boot last season, did he outperform those that didn't outscore him? Mou said it in 2014/2015 that he was easily the best in the league and he wasn't wrong not mentioning Costa that season. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:27pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Greatihex: 100% |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:33pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Ibime:what do you mean by what you watched? Are you sure you watched well. Ndombele is the guy that scored the precious equalizing goal. Have you forgotten? Goals are the koko |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:47pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Ibime: Hazard had 7 goals and 5 assists before January. In the whole season he had 14 goals and 10 assists, which means he had half of his total Goals+Assists for the season by December. How was that ghost mode, Mr. Ibime? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:47pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Swissh:which KDB was an academy player? He was simply at the level of today's Mount Mason. Mason is playing only because there are no top players again. KDB was a late bloomer. Let me just put it like that 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:52pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Greatihex: If you debunk it, trust me sometime in 2022, he will still repeat the same line o. I had debunked it several times, but oga ibime wouldn't stop repeating the fallacious line. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:53pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Greatihex: I'm talking of City game. Didn't watch Villa game. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:56pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
airmark: 14 goals and 10 assists is ghostmode for an attacker who would be rated best in the league. It only looked significant in 2nd half of season cos Mourinho went into defensive lockdown mode so these paltry figures were enough to win games 1-0. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:06pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Ibime:which one is this 40 goals you keep mentioning anybody don ever reach 35 before talk more of 40? Kane don knack 29 goals before for epl, nobody look em side. Kante won it. What is the difference between 29 and 31 that suarez scored? Many of The voters don't just count goals before they vote, like you, that is why Kante and VVD won it. All these things you are saying about an attacking doing this and that is because of the rubbish cr7 was doing just to keep up pace with Messi and he was able to appeal to the sentiments of the people who vote. Thank God, things are beginning to change of recent and the hard workers in midfield and defence are beginning to get the recognition they deserve. Not those times they just give awards to people who score tap ins up and down |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:07pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Ibime: Have you now shifted the ghost mode from before January, to the whole season now? Like i will always tell you, rating a player is not just going to the chart, looking for goals and assists figures alone. Hazard's contributions to our title that season, dwarfs any other player's. Stop finding reasons, where none exists bros. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:09pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Kimbeast:you should be confirming, not doubting. Hazard was very outstanding for Chelsea that season. It was literally, no hazard, no chelsea. Hazard we had a half decent striker that season, we would have won the league and that would have been down to Mou and Hazard brilliance to an extent. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:15pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
airmark:ask him again |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:16pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
airmark:i am beginning to notice that pattern 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:16pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Greatihex: Suarez took European Golden shoe from Messi and Ronaldo Kane could feel aggrieved to lose to Kante. Kante beat him on team success and as reward for the prior season also. This is why I didn't include Kante in the list of undisputable awards. You should be ashamed as a representative of an attacker like Hazard, and promoting hard workers in midfield and defence and trying to tie Hazard in with them. Is Hazard a hard worker in midfield and defence? Let him go and compete with his fellow attackers, he is busy borrow-posing with defenders and defensive midfielders. If anyone should complain about attackers getting all the awards, it should be Kante, VVD and co, not Hazard. Whether you like it or not, when they list the greatest players of all time, they will list Pele, Maradona, CR7, Messi, Cruyff, Di-Stefano etc before they get to hardworking defenders and midfielders. Same goes for awards. If those DMs and defenders were the best players, they should have trained to be attacking players from academy level but most weren't good enough. If Hazard like, let him be pallying defenders instead of focussing on attacking returns like his fellow attackers. 10 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:18pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
airmark:as in ehh. That goals and assists is just his problem 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:29pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Ibime:i am sorry if it seems like an insult, but you seem to forget a lot. Suarez won the golden shoe with cr7. Hazard should be the one feeling aggrieved for not winning the award, not Kane. Hazard was the one who came second to Kane. If hazard was not working hard for Mourinho in midfield and defence, why would Mourinho bench hazard the following season just because he is not tracking back to help his leftback. This is the kind of statement Mourinho was using for hazard during their time together. "hazard cannot look at his leftback and live his life for him" Imagine when that kind of statement is being made for an attacker that is still expected to take the goal scoring responsibility for the team. Mourinho would also say, "hazard should take responsibility" |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:35pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Greatihex: Whatever your opinion on who deserves it, Kante win was not undisputable Greatihex: Because Hazard came back fat and unfit and could not do the same things he did the season before physically |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:38pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Greatihex:We have said it many times here: If Hazard was lucky to have played under an attack-minded coach like Pep some years ago, he would have been deadlier in attack and more successful by now. We all saw his output under the chain-smoker when he had less defensive duties to expend energy on. Also, look at how Pep transformed Sterling's game. Before joining City, Sterling used to run all about like a headless chicken — so many runs with so little end product. But today, the story, Sterling's, is a lot different. Hazard really tried to have put up such remarkable performances under most Chelsea's coaches in the past, who burdened him with attack and defense duties. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:49pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
larride: Check all your posts yesterday. I would have used stronger words yesterday when you were talking about returning school fees, and not behaving like a learned or something. Don't think when push comes to shove, i cant get the job done with words. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:51pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Ibime: Mourinho stated his reason for benching hazard, and it was because he was no longer tracking back to help his leftback to defend, something that he did very well the previous season. Salah's win is also very disputable and the votes show it. KDB felt robbed |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:55pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
gensteejay: They saw how Debruyne and Sallah couldn't survive, until they left Chelsea. But they would criticise the one that managed to pull strings under those constraints. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 3:50pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Greatihex:You literally don't know what you are saying. The only reason Hazard was nominated was because Chelsea won the league. Talking of performance for that season Sanchez who was carrying arsenal was miles ahead of hazard and Kante. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 4:16pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
gensteejay: We have said it many times here: If Hazard was lucky to have played under an attack-minded coach like Pep some years ago, he would have been deadlier in attack and more successful by now. This is not true na. Hazard has already said what he will do even if he plays under pep, Alex Ferguson, Frank Rijkaad etc In his words: Hazard, 28, said: “When I watch the TV it says, ‘Eden Hazard scored this’. But I don’t really care. “I just want to enjoy myself on the pitch and play good. “The best example is with Belgium. I played my best game against Brazil and I didn’t score or make an assist. I really don't understand most of u 'hazard confa' members ó. Person wey Una dey hold forth for talk say he ne like goals and assist, una talk say he go score and assist die under pep ![]() Hazard is good at what he does, but what he does obviously doesn't include scoring goals and assisting like that na. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 4:39pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Swissh:U are overestimating stats in judging players Do u know that Zidane cannot lace lampard's boot wen it comes to stats ![]() ![]() Do u know that iniesta is poo comparing to Gerald? ![]() So stats doesn't really reflect ur effectiveness Mustafi is/was better than maguire defensively using stats but does that speaks the truth? ?? Coaches loses players just to man-marked hazard when he is in the pitch. Comparing KDB vs hazard is an insult bearing in mind that both played in the same NT...one was chased away 4m Chelsea 4 some obvious reason while the other became the best player 4 a good number of years .. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:46pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Swissh:you are just a hazard hater who is pained because of what he did to your useless club for years You want us to recognize sanchez that he "carried" your team, but you don't want to recognize hazard for "carrying" chelsea 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 4:46pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
BlueRayDick: What matters is how he effectively changes the game.. He is selfless He scores when the opportunity to score is high. He assists when he needs to His presence is always felt His primary aims is to create chances,troubles the defense and create a winning atmosphere Goals and assists are bonuses He was not the highest goal/assists provider when he won the PFA Check the difference between forwards and strikers. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 5:05pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Greatihex:Hazard carried Chelsea yet Diego costa was Chelsea top scorer while fabregas was topping assist chart for Chelsea and Kante was bossing the midfield compared to Sanchez who was arsenal top scorer 3rd overall in the league and assist provider carrying us single handedly. if you think Hazard was even on Sanchez level that season then you one biased Hazard fan. At least segedinho is objective 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:06pm On Aug 22, 2019 |
Segedinho: If he was "selfless" as you claim, you won't see ibime a staunch supporter of Chelsea that has watched him play live call him out everyday for shaku shaku style of play. lol @ he scores when the opportunity to score is high ![]() |
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