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Fkhalifa:

Your head is correct, na the same thing we been dey yarn...
They resorted to cross and nod, the game could have been similar to that 0-2 Chelsea with Gerrard's slip.

If we'd gone to attack them, its sure gon be a cricket score, if Auba had scored that volley, I'm sure Liverpool will crack, they'll commit more bodies forward and that'll be their undoing.

The system worked really well, both fullbacks were kept quiet and we created chances through some neat midfield play made possible by the diamond.

How about this for positives

kokanepyramid:
How about this for positives

Shey positive di goal ni

If those shesi fans see this now, they will say we fly colour, dem go initiate us into positive confra o

Jodera:
Things I picked out from today's game
1. I think the formation was spot on ( the formation I saw was 4312) with guen and willock playing left and right midfield respectively and xhaka as a deep lying playmaker while ceballos behind d strikers. I feel from first half the formation tried but the personnel were wrong. A ceballos in willock or guen position and a torreira in xhaka position would have been the best. We created loads of chances with such formation and limited LFC front 3 influence and turned them to a cross and nod team, which our back was really ready for. We missed a torreira who can screen defensive line( with tackles and interceptions) and quickly launch an attack

2. The two upfront ought to be pepe and lacazette not auba. The two can take on defenders , harry defenders and force error. Starting auba, to me, was a big mistake.

3. Pepe is really a winger we need. it is nice seeing and having a winger who can beat his man and also take an outside 18 shot. I won't blame him for missing that goal cos he's left footed and the ball was on his right. From all his clips I've watched, he rarely uses his right which I feel he needs to work on. So cos of that I won't blame him for missing with his right, even messi and salah weren't so good with their right legs at that age.
Auba misses too many chances for an elite striker, and mostly against big teams.

4. Luiz is to blame for the 2nd goal, it was so foolish committing such a pk like that, but I won't blame him for the third cos he's on a yellow card, so been one man down at that stage isn't worth it. Monreal should have brought salah down for a yellow but he didn't. Those are the kind of tactical fouls we need.

5. Emery should tone down on his incessant passing from the back. Haba! Even man city doing that doesn't do that all occasions. I've seen ederson punt the ball straight to kdb in midfield. Also, we're so slow passing from the back thereby allowing our opponents time to regroup for more pressing. Compared to man city who are faster in doing it, we were laboured and predictable passing from the back.

6. We've really stopped the pressing we normally do to our opponents which aided our 22game unbeaten run last season. This season we hardly press and I feel that is affecting our midfield dominance.

All in all, we need to be positive and let's try to beat all this small teams. At least, top4 is d goal here and not title challenge.

Your point number 4 got me like

How on earth do you think Monreal could've fouled Salah? Salah pressed ctrl + Japa on his keyboard immediately he moved past Luiz. Monreal never met him on the way. Except you expected him to trip him from the back with a lunging tackle which would've resulted to the same red card Luiz was avoiding.

Sincerely Salah's speed was no match for the old Spaniard. He only did what Yorubas call " ọrọ aje" for him to have even pursued Sallah to the box. I've seen Sallah sprint that way a number of times and most young full backs sef don't catch up with him.

nihilistjnr:
We don troll for here since sef?

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BlueRayDick:


Your point number 4 got me like

How on earth do you think Monreal could've fouled Salah? Salah pressed ctrl + Japa on his keyboard immediately he moved past Luiz. Monreal never met him on the way. Except you expected him to trip him from the back with a lunging tackle which would've resulted to the same red card Luiz was avoiding.

Sincerely Salah's speed was no match for the old Spaniard. He only did what Yorubas call " ọrọ aje" for him to have even pursued Sallah to the box. I've seen Sallah sprint that way a number of times and most young full backs sef don't catch up with him.

Lol, true about Monreal tho. Just watched the replay now, any foul by him on salah would have been a straight red card too. Hoping for a win against spurs o

Jodera:
Lol, true about Monreal tho. Just watched the replay now, any foul by him on salah would have been a straight red card too. Hoping for a win against spurs o

Yeah bro. We actually didn't play too bad.

Even Luiz was very very decent until the moment he tugged Sallah's shirt. He was really helpful in defending the aerial balls. The coach had his faults. If ceballos had been taken off at half time when the score was 1-0 the match may have taken a different direction.

If we have pepe play like this against spurs and Auba missing less chances with ceballos playing his preferred position, and a Torreira who can translate defence to attack faster than Guendouzi, then we should give spurs a run for their money.

BlueRayDick:


Yeah bro. We actually didn't play too bad.

Even Luiz was very very decent until the moment he tugged Sallah's shirt. He was really helpful in defending the aerial balls. The coach had his faults. If ceballos had been taken off at half time when the score was 1-0 the match may have taken a different direction.

If we have pepe play like this against spurs and Auba missing less chances with ceballos playing his preferred position, and a Torreira who can translate defence to attack faster than Guendouzi, then we should give spurs a run for their money.

Defense did well, very well sef.

From kick off the midfield just allowed Liverpool to play in our own half unperturbed. How long will it take before they crack.

We should have played them on counter with upthrough passes, with the midfield running up to support. But that didn’t happen cos anytime we even manage to send the long balls forward we isolate Pepe and Auba no midfielder to play with and support them upfront. Xhaka Torreira partnership would have worked better, cos the latter is fast and is better at decision making while the former though not good enough his stamina will come handy. But no! We needed someone to recycle possession.

Secondly we were being pressed like bobby, we kept doing tiki taka in our 18 yard box.

Our games have been poor since the beginning of the season, I wasn’t carried away by the wins. We don’t play like we train together, no chemistry, midfield is zero, it’s just anywhere belle face football. I was yelling this from the roof top they said I troll my own.

If we play the way we did yesterday Spurs will trash us whether we like it or not.

kokanepyramid:

Defense did well, very well sef.

From kick off the midfield just allowed Liverpool to play in our own half unperturbed. How long will it take before they crack.

We should have played them on counter with upthrough passes, with the midfield running up to support. But that didn’t happen cos anytime we even manage to send the long balls forward we isolate Pepe and Auba no midfielder to play with and support them upfront. Xhaka Torreira partnership would have worked better, cos the latter is fast and is better at decision making while the former though not good enough his stamina will come handy. But no! We needed someone to recycle possession.

Secondly we were being pressed like bobby, we kept doing tiki taka in our 18 yard box.

Our games have been poor since the beginning of the season, I wasn’t carried away by the wins. We don’t play like we train together, no chemistry, midfield is zero, it’s just anywhere belle face football. I was yelling this from the roof top they said I troll my own.

If we play the way we did yesterday Spurs will trash us whether we like it or not.

Just leave those know all pundits, I know if this man didn't change or qualify us for UCL he's going.
I watched aftv yesterday most of them called Emery a clown but we have professionals here that would rather masturbate on Shearer pick guen in his fantasy.

kokanepyramid:

Defense did well, very well sef.

From kick off the midfield just allowed Liverpool to play in our own half unperturbed. How long will it take before they crack.

We should have played them on counter with upthrough passes, with the midfield running up to support. But that didn’t happen cos anytime we even manage to send the long balls forward we isolate Pepe and Auba no midfielder to play with and support them upfront. Xhaka Torreira partnership would have worked better, cos the latter is fast and is better at decision making while the former though not good enough his stamina will come handy. But no! We needed someone to recycle possession.

Secondly we were being pressed like bobby, we kept doing tiki taka in our 18 yard box.

Our games have been poor since the beginning of the season, I wasn’t carried away by the wins. We don’t play like we train together, no chemistry, midfield is zero, it’s just anywhere belle face football. I was yelling this from the roof top they said I troll my own.

If we play the way we did yesterday Spurs will trash us whether we like it or not.

Yes that passing from the back will definitely be Emery's undoing. Maybe he did that to ensure Loserpool doesn't get much of the ball ni ó ( which obviously didn't work out), or maybe he just wanted to load the ball forward ; I don't know.

But it was appalling that our leftback and right back were not even instructed to run at their opposite number and cross into the box.

I want to believe our midfielders will go all out against spurs because playing this sit back style will only allow a good passer like eriksen to pick out his attackers and it will spell doom for us. I can see the hunger in pepe, I just hope Auba can get his acts right and convert those balls that will be coming in his path

BlueRayDick:


Yes that passing from the back will definitely be Emery's undoing. Maybe he did that to ensure Loserpool doesn't get much of the ball ni ó ( which obviously didn't work out), or maybe he just wanted to load the ball forward ; I don't know.

But it was appalling that our leftback and right back were not even instructed to run at their opposite number and cross into the box.

I want to believe our midfielders will go all out against spurs because playing this sit back style will only allow a good passer like eriksen to pick out his attackers and it will spell doom for us. I can see the hunger in pepe, I just hope Auba can get his acts right and convert those balls that will be coming in his path

it was nauseating to watch from kickoff. We just sat back and when the ball goes forward at all we just leave Pepe and Auba alone. If two of the midfielders or wingbacks at least go up to add to the numbers to create passing options that could give them problems we could have buried 1 goal at least before half time. Instead they want Auba or Pepe to dribble everybody and score.

I stated then that our opening 3 goals of the season have been due to individual brilliance from those forwards, we won’t get that lucky all the time.The rest of the team is not in sync with the forwards at all.

The concept most here fail to understand is, when u look dangerous too on attack ur opponent becomes wary and thread with caution. Look at the way Chelsea played them.

Three clowns

Play like that against Spurs or even Wolves or Leicester and we will lose. This mentality of sitting back is very un-arsenal. How on earth can you allow so much space for the opposing team to play around in the midfield. Credit goes to the attitude Klopp has instilled in the Liverpool players. Whether it be Salah or Mane or Firmino, as much as they have attacking impetus, they also DEFEND from the front and Help their fullbacks. I saw Henderson shouting at Mane when they were 3 nil up to cover Robertson when Pepe wanted to start running at Him. I can't remember how many time Auba or Pepe helped the fullbacks albeit the formation was weird. Willock and Guen were just made to overwork, they had no business protecting the wings when they were assigned a primary role in the midfield. Liverpool just went from coast to coast with ease. I really do not understand what emery is trying to instill here. Even Sarri (former Chelsea coach ) Knew what he wanted and played his style regardless of whatever anyone thought. Playing 4 3 3 one day and 3 5 2 the next and 3 4 3 the next just does not sit well with me. We need an identity in the way we play. heck if we are gonna get beaten with an identity then so be it but at least lets always be compact in our play. If we play like this against even Norwich, they will win. The Premier league is un-forgiving and big teams must always show their dominance. Credit to Crystal Palace on their away performance at United. That was simply brilliant

Jencejyde:
Play like that against Spurs or even Wolves or Leicester and we will lose. This mentality of sitting back is very un-arsenal. How on earth can you allow so much space for the opposing team to play around in the midfield. Credit goes to the attitude Klopp has instilled in the Liverpool players. Whether it be Salah or Mane or Firmino, as much as they have attacking impetus, they also DEFEND from the front and Help their fullbacks. I saw Henderson shouting at Mane when they were 3 nil up to cover Robertson when Pepe wanted to start running at Him. I can't remember how many time Auba or Pepe helped the fullbacks albeit the formation was weird. Willock and Guen were just made to overwork, they had no business protecting the wings when they were assigned a primary role in the midfield. Liverpool just went from coast to coast with ease. I really do not understand what emery is trying to instill here. Even Sarri (former Chelsea coach ) Knew what he wanted and played his style regardless of whatever anyone thought. Playing 4 3 3 one day and 3 5 2 the next and 3 4 3 the next just does not sit well with me. We need an identity in the way we play. heck if we are gonna get beaten with an identity then so be it but at least lets always be compact in our play. If we play like this against even Norwich, they will win. The Premier league is un-forgiving and big teams must always show their dominance. Credit to Crystal Palace on their away performance at United. That was simply brilliant

Bro, I expect this kind of performance at the Etihads again, The mentality of sitting back is unArsenal truly, but not in this era,That was during the early Wenger days when we had one of the best attacking side in Europe.. City sat back last time at Anfield, it was tactical, individual errors and chance missed cost us..

At the bolded, That's one more area Liverpool edge us, they have established front3 of 3 yrs, we only have RW (Pepe) and CF( Auba/Laca)..

Also Firmino and Mane drops deep and helps defence, Only Laca defends here.

We'll get there hopefully, klopp's project is almost 5yrs, while Emery's still 1 year plus.

Fkhalifa:


Bro, I expect this kind of performance at the Etihads again, The mentality of sitting back is unArsenal truly, but not in this era,That was during the early Wenger days when we had one of the best attacking side in Europe.. City sat back last time at Anfield, it was tactical, individual errors and chance missed cost us..

At the bolded, That's one more area Liverpool edge us, they have established front3 of 3 yrs, we only have RW (Pepe) and CF( Auba/Laca)..

Also Firmino and Mane drops deep and helps defence, Only Laca defends here.

We'll get there hopefully, klopp's project is almost 5yrs, while Emery's still 1 year plus.

True though, that the Liverpool front Three have been there for a while now and they have better Chemistry and understanding but i just need to see attitude and some commanding presence that keeps players on their toes and alert to their responsibilities. You are also right that our Glory days was when we had the likes of Henry, Pires Lungberg, Wiltord Patrick and co.. Hopefully Laca Auba and Pepe can form something in the future but i still do not understand why Laca has to sit out crucial games, i really do not understand as he is our best player with back to Goal and can hold up play very well. Auba can finish and has pace but with back to goal he really can't do anything. Well let's hope we get the best out of these front three sooner rather than later.

Jencejyde:
Play like that against Spurs or even Wolves or Leicester and we will lose. This mentality of sitting back is very un-arsenal. How on earth can you allow so much space for the opposing team to play around in the midfield. Credit goes to the attitude Klopp has instilled in the Liverpool players. Whether it be Salah or Mane or Firmino, as much as they have attacking impetus, they also DEFEND from the front and Help their fullbacks. I saw Henderson shouting at Mane when they were 3 nil up to cover Robertson when Pepe wanted to start running at Him. I can't remember how many time Auba or Pepe helped the fullbacks albeit the formation was weird. Willock and Guen were just made to overwork, they had no business protecting the wings when they were assigned a primary role in the midfield. Liverpool just went from coast to coast with ease. I really do not understand what emery is trying to instill here. Even Sarri (former Chelsea coach ) Knew what he wanted and played his style regardless of whatever anyone thought. Playing 4 3 3 one day and 3 5 2 the next and 3 4 3 the next just does not sit well with me. We need an identity in the way we play. heck if we are gonna get beaten with an identity then so be it but at least lets always be compact in our play. If we play like this against even Norwich, they will win. The Premier league is un-forgiving and big teams must always show their dominance. Credit to Crystal Palace on their away performance at United. That was simply brilliant

Thank you.

Fkhalifa:


Bro, I expect this kind of performance at the Etihads again, The mentality of sitting back is unArsenal truly, but not in this era,That was during the early Wenger days when we had one of the best attacking side in Europe.. City sat back last time at Anfield, it was tactical, individual errors and chance missed cost us..

At the bolded, That's one more area Liverpool edge us, they have established front3 of 3 yrs, we only have RW (Pepe) and CF( Auba/Laca)..

Also Firmino and Mane drops deep and helps defence, Only Laca defends here.

We'll get there hopefully, klopp's project is almost 5yrs, while Emery's still 1 year plus.

During Klopp's first season we could see the style of play he wanted, right? Can we say the same for us? Well, maybe you can see it, but I honestly can't.

This is not an attack. I'm truly curious.

MrDojo:


During Klopp's first season we could see the style of play he wanted, right? Can we say the same for us? Well, maybe you can see it, but I honestly can't.

This is not an attack. I'm truly curious.

We saw Klopp's style at Dortmund, We saw Emery at Sevilla and PSG..
It could be he's trying a new model,Players not fitting his style, changing methods for diff oppositions..

Top Coaches do change the way they approach games, Pep used 3 at the back against us, used 442 sometimes with Aguero and Jesus upfront..

Klopp didn't press spurs in the final, he allowed them the ball and relied on counter.

By the end of his 2nd year, we should be able to draw conclusions now that he has 65% of his players.

Fkhalifa:


We saw Klopp's style at Dortmund, We saw Emery at Sevilla and PSG..
It could be he's trying a new model,Players not fitting his style, changing methods for diff oppositions..

By the end of his 2nd year, we should be able to draw conclusions now that he has 65% of his players.

You're right about Klopp, but I don't agree with Emery at PSG. Do you know he was forced to play 4-3-3, because they did not want him playing his preferred 4-2-3-1. I really hope we start seeing something like a playing style soon. Like someone said earlier, we can't keep relying on individual brilliance.

Fkhalifa:


Bro, I expect this kind of performance at the Etihads again, The mentality of sitting back is unArsenal truly, but not in this era,That was during the early Wenger days when we had one of the best attacking side in Europe.. City sat back last time at Anfield, it was tactical, individual errors and chance missed cost us..

At the bolded, That's one more area Liverpool edge us, they have established front3 of 3 yrs, we only have RW (Pepe) and CF( Auba/Laca)..

Also Firmino and Mane drops deep and helps defence, Only Laca defends here.

We'll get there hopefully, klopp's project is almost 5yrs, while Emery's still 1 year plus.

Correct me if I’m wrong. How do you plan on sitting back and at this same time be playing tiki taka from the back? that’s suicidal against any team talk more of Liverpool.
To sit back u must be ready to hit on the counter, to hit on the counter you need fast players to transit from defense to attack. What does Emery do, field Xhaka that’s slow, partners him with Guen that’s slow and holds the ball more than necessary. Reason you always see Pepe and Auba miles away from them.

Reason I asked the other day what tactics is Emery playing, from the conversation and what I’ve seen he was using the wrong personnel for his tactics. It wasn’t about blaming Guen as some here understood. What I meant was that midfield pairing wasn’t suitable for the system he planned to operate. It can only work in a tiki taka team. All players can’t fit into every system. It’s like using Cech to play from the back, it’s suicidal but it doesn’t mean Cech is a bad goalie but does he fit such system that plays from the back the answer is NO everyday.

Luiz is good at playing out from the back and his long balls to Aubameyang and Pepe could prove vital as the season progresses but it's just a case of weighing that up against his mistakes. Will Holding & Sokratis be a bad pairing come the end of season? We also have Tierney and Bellerin returning which should provide more stability in defence and bolster our attack.
This match is not going to make or break our season, it certainly doesn't derail our Top 4 chances. There are many positives from our performance unlike last season which was a complete disaster.
As for Liverpool, they're the European Champions and deservedly so. I hate that club.

Swissh:
Luiz is good at playing out from the back and his long balls to Aubameyang and Pepe could prove vital as the season progresses but it's just a case of weighing that up against his mistakes. Will Holding & Sokratis be a bad pairing come the end of season? We also have Tierney and Bellerin returning which should provide more stability in defence and bolster our attack.
This match is not going to make or break our season, it certainly doesn't derail our Top 4 chances. There are many positives from our performance unlike last season which was a complete disaster.
As for Liverpool, they're the European Champions and deservedly so. I hate that club.

solomonbrown64:


..... Sack him and employ who And then we start with operation get my own players again. We are not Manchester United Baba.

Mourinho is a free agent

eph12:

Mourinho is a free agent

if not that today is Sunday I would have asked thunder to fire you fcking eph12/2.

eph12:

Mourinho is a free agent

.... Yes, how did he become that? No be una sack am... We are not a sack and hire experiment club. Some of us like the coach like that. Thanks for the suggestion.

solomonbrown64:


.... Yes, how did he become that? No be una sack am... We are not a sack and hire experiment club. Some of us like the coach like that. Thanks for the suggestion.

eph12/2 is trolling

kokanepyramid:
eph12/2 is trolling

.... No mind am. Of course I know. Just playing along.

kokanepyramid:

Correct me if I’m wrong. How do you plan on sitting back and at this same time be playing tiki taka from the back? that’s suicidal against any team talk more of Liverpool.
To sit back u must be ready to hit on the counter, to hit on the counter you need fast players to transit from defense to attack. What does Emery do, field Xhaka that’s slow, partners him with Guen that’s slow and holds the ball more than necessary. Reason you always see Pepe and Auba miles away from them.

Reason I asked the other day what tactics is Emery playing, from the conversation and what I’ve seen he was using the wrong personnel for his tactics. It wasn’t about blaming Guen as some here understood. What I meant was that midfield pairing wasn’t suitable for the system he planned to operate. It can only work in a tiki taka team. All players can’t fit into every system. It’s like using Cech to play from the back, it’s suicidal but it doesn’t mean Cech is a bad goalie but does he fit such system that plays from the back the answer is NO everyday.

I think he wanted to kickstart our attack from the back , then sit back,choke spaces when we don't have the ball..

To fast counter truly we need fast players, 2 or 3 players fast players around Auba will do, only Pepe looked fast and good for it..
Guen,Xhaka and Willock aren't very fast midfielders, Ceballos wasn't online at all, Niles and Monreal also aren't fast enough for Mane,Sallah,Arnold and Robertson.. Maybe Bellerin and Tierney could have been more suited.

Fast players are for Anfield.

Fkhalifa:

I think he wanted to kickstart our attack from the back , then sit back,choke spaces when we don't have the ball..

To fast counter truly we need fast players, 2 or 3 players fast players around Auba will do, only Pepe looked fast and good for it..
Guen,Xhaka and Willock aren't very fast midfielders, Ceballos wasn't online at all, Niles and Monreal also aren't fast enough for Mane,Sallah,Arnold and Robertson.. Maybe Bellerin and Tierney could have been more suited.

Fast players are for Anfield.

Ceballos was played out of position,

the forwards should have been Auba, Laca, Pepe
midfield Xhaka Ceballos Torreira

kokanepyramid:

Ceballos was played out of position,

the forwards should have been Auba, Laca, Pepe
midfield Xhaka Ceballos Torreira

where's Jerry curls, now you are trolling.
The boy was in shearer fantasy even when auba scored and amn assisted