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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 6:04pm On Aug 26, 2019
gallivant:


Nigeria's public debt is higher than Kenya. You are loosing your mind because of facts.
Shut up you pig grin we're not not like your shitthol who borrows money anyhow to build useless ugly infrastructure grin you were even listed among that are owning too much Dept in Africa grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:05pm On Aug 26, 2019
AskiaHarem:


Well yea it's more efficient to get the UN Food Sacks that way.

I guess 99% of Nigerians have never seen a lion.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:19pm On Aug 26, 2019
AskiaHarem:


Sure go ahead and post a blog. smiley

It's not a blog, it's the IMF website. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:22pm On Aug 26, 2019
Problemkid1:
Shut up you pig grin we're not not like your shitthol who borrows money anyhow to build useless ugly infrastructure grin you were even listed among that are owning too much Dept in Africa grin

Shout all you want but numbers don't lie, your public debt is the biggest in Africa. Quite pathetic considering all the oil in your disposal.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 6:22pm On Aug 26, 2019
NairobiWalker:


I guess 99% of Nigerians have never seen a lion.

They hunt for rats and slaughter them thinking they're rabbits

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 6:23pm On Aug 26, 2019
NairobiWalker:


I guess 99% of Nigerians have never seen a lion.

Literally had nothing to do with the discussion that was a terrible attempt to dodge the dispute you where losing. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:23pm On Aug 26, 2019
NairobiWalker:


I guess 99% of Nigerians have never seen a lion.

They used to have lions, turned them to pepper soup!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 6:26pm On Aug 26, 2019
gallivant:


They used to have lions, turned them to pepper soup!

Stop running from the discussion you cowards. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:42pm On Aug 26, 2019
New kid on the block! Kenya today became the first East African nation to export Oil.

First batch of 200,000 barrels sold to Malaysia.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:56pm On Aug 26, 2019
AskiaHarem:


Stop running from the discussion you cowards. grin

The discussion was on Lagos(Benin Republic)if am right. The pictures looked depressing especially the unroadworthy vehicles.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 7:18pm On Aug 26, 2019
TayserMahri:
New kid on the block! Kenya today became the first East African nation to export Oil.

First batch of 200,000 barrels sold to the UK.
great. what varieties oil does kenya produce? Ghana produce the best kind of oil. it is called sweet crude oil.

And what about Uganda?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:24pm On Aug 26, 2019
gallivant:


They used to have lions, turned them to pepper soup!

These guys really can eat anything cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy Snails, flies, bees, lions, everything. cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:24pm On Aug 26, 2019
AskiaHarem:


Literally had nothing to do with the discussion that was a terrible attempt to dodge the dispute you where losing. grin

So what is the discussion on this thread Mr. Askia Mohammad? grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:25pm On Aug 26, 2019
Stevoh18:


They hunt for rats and slaughter them thinking they're rabbits

Rats, snails, snakes, tortoises - everything that moves is soup to these guys. cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:26pm On Aug 26, 2019
samorobo:



See this one ooo
He came down here to request for funds and support as he have worked with your headless youth severally but lost easily. He came here begged on his knees and we stashed him with money to boost his influence politically and financially and even a good campaign manager. We even told mahatma to step down so he can climb up and mahama did that quickly like some servant boy grin cheesy grin
you can talk paa oo

Our presidents will always make sure they keep our vassals in check
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:34pm On Aug 26, 2019
samorobo:


You mean the one we would be selling to stop dumsor cheesy grin

you really like chatting me

sorry
too busy now
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 7:39pm On Aug 26, 2019
Problemkid1:
I can see that all you kiberans are mad including that godforsaken animal. That born by mistake pig grin the most useless and hopeless animal in the world called sufferNdying grin who are you guys decieving. Someone is busy posting pictures from his Shitthol and calling it Nigeria grin look at the cars, the buses. There is no such red and white buses in Nigeria grin grin that sufferNdying is such a ignoramus and bombastic fool. grin grin a castrated pig. cheesy foolish Kiberans grin grin

Which country can you find gala in the world except for Nigeria and does taxis are from ibadan on the lagos-ibadan Expressway. Signpost of GTB and Zenith bank which other country except for Nigeria I have a lot more pictures for you

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 7:43pm On Aug 26, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Rats, snails, snakes, tortoises - everything that moves is soup to these guys. cheesy cheesy cheesy

Imagine grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 7:45pm On Aug 26, 2019
TayserMahri:
New kid on the block! Kenya today became the first East African nation to export Oil.

First batch of 200,000 barrels sold to the UK.

More economic diversification

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:51pm On Aug 26, 2019
vaxx:
great. what varieties of oil doea kenya produce? Ghana produce the best kind of oil. it is called sweet crude oil.

And what about Uganda?

Its generally said to be ( sweet and light) and among the best quality globally.



Kenya's oil among best globally

Kenya's crude could be priced higher than oil produced by some Arab states.

The Financial Standard can exclusively report that Kenya's crude grade ranks among the best in the world. This is according to preliminary tests carried by the Ministry of Energy and Petroleum and the companies that have been exploring oil in Turkana.
According to Ministry of Energy officials, preliminary oil tests by Government show it has low sulphur content and density, which means is sweet and light. The two – density and sulphur content – are among the key quality measures for crude.
It usually results in crude classified as light or heavy according to density, and sweet or sour depending on its sulphur content. Premium crude oils are usually light and sweet.

Tullow Oil, which has also tested the oil separately, said Kenyan crude is of high quality. It is likely to fetch a premium price once it hits the market.

A Ministry of Energy official, who declined to be named because he is not authorised to speak on behalf of the Government said Kenya's crude oil is almost akin to Brent crude, highly rated oil from UK's North Sea, which is a blend of 15 different crude oils from the area. This is in comparison to its sulphur content and density.

Crude oil density is measured using the American Petroleum Institute (API) Gravity Standard, whereby oil with an API of over 30 degrees Fahrenheit are light while those with an API of 20 degrees or less are considered heavy and cost more to extract and refine. Oils with high sulphur content, usually over 0.5 per cent of the total weight, are considered sour and anything less than 0.5 per cent being considered sweet.
Kenyan oil has an API Gravity of between 25 and 38 degrees according to the preliminary tests. Its sulphur content falls within the under 0.5 per cent level - making it light and sweet. According to sources, some wells at the Lokichar Basin have a sulphur content of below 0.1 per cent, making oil from these wells among the sweetest in the world.
The oil from the Lokichar Basin compares favourably to the best crude oil in the world, which is produced in Libya with API gravity ranging between 32 and 44 degrees and sulphur content of as low as 0.07 per cent. The only other crude that beats Libya is Malaysian oil.
It is also in comparison to Brent crude, which has an API of 38 degrees and a sulphur content of 0.37 per cent. Brent is the second most popular benchmark after the American West Texas Intermediate, which has an API of 39.6 degrees and a sulphur content of 0.24 per cent. Dubai crude – which is however not a representative of all Middle Eastern Crude Oils due to the many different grades in the region – has an API of 31 degrees and sulphur content of two per cent.

The flipside however is that the Kenyan oil is waxy with a high pour point. It stops flowing at fairly low temperatures, meaning it would need heated transport and storage facilities.
The Ministry of Energy official explained that waxiness is not necessarily a major issue of concern, and occurs in both light and heavy crude oil. Light sweet crude oil are easier and cheaper to process. The oil also flows to the surface and remains in a fluid state but solidifies when moved to areas where temperatures are lower than those in Turkana.
Tullow and Africa Oil have in their earlier disclosures to investors said the Kenyan crude is of high quality, with oil from some of the wells having an API Gravity of up to 38 degrees. The firm confirmed to the Financial Standard that tests it has carried out so far show Kenyan crude to be of high quality.
"The crude oil is sweet – it does not have sulphur. It is also a little heavy also known as waxy. The crude oil is of good quality according to Tullow's tests," said Timothy Tororey Communications Manager Tullow Oil, Kenya BV.

Light and sweet crude tends to fetch higher prices in the market because it is easier and cheaper to refine. They also yield more petroleum products per barrel compared to heavy sour crude.
Brent crude and the West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil – produced in North America – are the major crude oil benchmarks in the world. WTI crude costs slightly more than the Brent Blend as it is lighter and sweeter. The two rank higher than oil from Middle Eastern oil fields.
According to the United States' Energy Information Administration (EIA), crude oils that are light (have a lower density) and sweet (have low sulphur content) are usually priced higher than heavy, sour crude oils.
"This is partly because gasoline (super petrol) and diesel fuel, which typically sell at a significant premium to residual fuel oil and other 'bottom of the barrel' products, can usually be more easily and cheaply produced using light, sweet crude oil. The light sweet grades are desirable because they can be processed with far less sophisticated and energy-intensive processes or refineries," said an analysis by EIA.
While bullish about the high quality of its oil, and even the quantities that further drilling and testing might reveal, the Government has been cagey with the details about the quality of the oil find.
Energy and Petroleum Cabinet Secretary Charles Keter said tests undertaken are yet to pinpoint the exact grade of Kenyan oil, noting that the Ministry and Tullow are still undertaking further tests to ascertain its nature.
"At the moment, we are still carrying out tests and we cannot yet say whether it is like Murban or Brent. The early oil programme will enable us ascertain the quality of our oil. The pilot will also enable us to see how the market reacts to the crude, which will inform the full field development," he said.
He observed that the Government and the joint venture partners prospecting for oil in Turkana – Tullow Oil, Africa Oil and Maersk Oil – are yet to decide on the buyers or a refining destination for oil or the export markets to sell crude.
He however said a number of Chinese and Indian refineries have already shown interest in handling the Kenyan oil. The refining destination is also likely to inform the export market.
Kenya also has the option of selling the oil at Mombasa and from then on, it will be the responsibility of the buyer to source for a refinery and a market once the crude has been refined. "There are companies that have already shown interest from China and India but we have not yet made a decision," said Keter.
A Ministry of Energy report published in October 2016 noted that because of its waxy nature, the Kenyan crude oil flows at temperatures above 63 degrees centigrade. This is in comparison to Brent crude that has a low pour point of - 42 degrees.
"The crude oil in the Lokichar Basin is waxy and is characterised by high pour point and a wax appearance temperature above 63 degrees centigrade. The Project will thus involve construction of a heated pipeline from Lokichar to Lamu," said the draft report.
Due to the waxy nature and heating requirements, transportation of Kenyan crude will be a complex affair, particularly during the early oil pilot scheme when the movement will be by trucks.
Charles Wanguhu coordinator Kenya Civil Society Platform on Oil and Gas noted that these will increase production costs and might impact on the prices of the products in the market. He observes that while some variants of crude from Middle East are heavy and sour, the process of recovering them is usually fairly easy, which might not be the case for the Kenyan oil.
Tullow however notes that the wax in crude oil is common among many oil blends and having heated facilities might not necessarily mean higher processing costs and that there is technology today to ensure crude is extracted, stored and moved cost effectively.
"The crude is waxy but this is not new in the oil industry. Many other countries have waxy crude and use the same kind of technology to extract, transport and store it," said Tororey.
"The surface facilities such as tanks will need to have a capacity for heating. The Early Oil Pilot Scheme will give us more information about the crude oil behaviour. Kenyan crude will not be costlier. High processing cost is caused by presence of sulphur and our crude oil does not have sulphur."
The Government has set $43 (about Ksh4,300) per barrel as a breakeven price for its pilot programme that is set to commence June. Keter notes that with the current prices at over $50 (Ksh5,000) per barrel, while it may not fetch the country money from sales, the pilot scheme will be able to pay for itself.
"When we started on the early oil pilot programme, there were a lot of questions on whether we would make any money. The cost per barrel was about $30 and our calculation, our breakeven would have been $43 and now the prices are over $50 per barrel which means that we can recoup investments," said Keter.

The Government has also set aside Ksh2 billion in the 2017/2018 Budget for LPG Exploration and Distribution and KSh3.84 billion for exploration and distribution of oil and gas, largely in line with what was budgeted in the prior year.
Key initiatives to undertaken in the new financial year include the delivery of 480,000 barrels of crude oil to the Mombasa refinery terminal for export under the Early Oil Pilot Scheme (EOPS).
EOPS is expected to provide experiential learning to assist in full field development planning, and to test the market before a $2.1 billion pipeline of about 855 kilometres is built.
EOPS will see Turkana Crude transported via road using heated 20-feet containers. It is estimated that the round trip will take three days with 30 trucks being loaded daily. Analysts say this lengthy and complicated procedure, which is estimated to go on for three years, will draw heavy expenditure at probably no profit.
But the Ministry says these are logistics that we have to pay in the short-term for long-term gains, adding that keeping the crude oil in storage facilities will still be costly.

Uganda is in a quagmire currently with their oil. Endless rows and disagreements, even on the most mundane matters.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 7:57pm On Aug 26, 2019
gallivant:


The discussion was on Lagos(Benin Republic)if am right. The pictures looked depressing especially the unroadworthy vehicles.
Most of the pictures which I take are from Lagos and ibadan don't listen to this Nigerian fools where the worst is the best and the best is the worst. Here are some more pictures from the giant of Africa shame on you Giants

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 7:57pm On Aug 26, 2019
TayserMahri:


Its generally said to be sweet and light and among the best quality globally.




Uganda is in a quagmire currently with their oil. Lots of rows and disagreements, even on the most mundane matters.
kenya is about to enjoy free flow of dollar. I hope kenya goverment will apply the best international practice to enjoy the new free gift of nature.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 8:01pm On Aug 26, 2019
I have become Public Enemy number one here to the Nigeria's nobody has done as much damage to them as me

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 8:01pm On Aug 26, 2019
vaxx:
kenya is about to enjoy free flow of dollar. I hope kenya goverment will apply the best international practice to enjoy the new free gift of nature.



It will be in the hands of Kenyatta Elite and the 1% Eurasian minority like everything in the country.... lipsrsealed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 8:03pm On Aug 26, 2019
TayserMahri:


just laughing because cant believe you read that screenshot grin

Its the usual cross border traditional cattle games. I understand the Kenyans were just chillin on a water hole in the Kenyan side when they were ambushed by the Toposas (I guess) from your country and 12 were killed. 1 attacker was also killed. Nothing serious frankly. This is quite normal in our wild North (your wild south). The Kenyans will just regroup and launch a counter with similar casualties and the gladiator games continue...



Oh, okay. . .i don't know why but i keep feeling serious when kenya-Ethiopia issue gets raised these days. It's just obvious having clashes in borders

Thanks
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 8:05pm On Aug 26, 2019
These are pictures from Lagos now

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 8:08pm On Aug 26, 2019
kikuyu1:


Just a normal day in a very crazy place! All those Toposa/Dongiro/Amarkoke/Arbore/Borana are warriors and live to fight for each others cattle. i had an uncle who was a police commander in the late 90s here-tbh,this is nothing special. In the late 80s 400 people were killed in one raid!?

So people at border carry the same character. . .

400 people in one raid tho? What is the solution for this?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 8:10pm On Aug 26, 2019
If people from Somalia and southern Sudan see some of these pictures they will be shocked. Outskirts of Lagos

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 8:13pm On Aug 26, 2019

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:14pm On Aug 26, 2019
vaxx:
kenya is about to enjoy free flow of dollar. I hope kenya goverment will apply the best international practice to enjoy the new free gift of nature.


Remains to be seen. Personally not too optimistic but not pessimistic either. Generally dont expect as much wastefulness as the Nigerians by Kenyans. We will do wonders! Funding these major infrastructure projects will be way easier. When full scale production begins in the next two years Kenya will be earning an equivalent of an SGR from Nairobi - Mombasa - Kisumu yearly. So far the way it has been done has been very smooth, procedural, straightforward. Didnt export until a final oil revenue sharing formula bill was agreed upon and passed (subject to review every few years to address emerging issues). We hope to learn along the way. How is Ghana doing it? How much do they export per day? Earnings?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 8:16pm On Aug 26, 2019
tongue once upon a time there was a country called Nigeria

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:19pm On Aug 26, 2019
ednited:

Oh, okay. . .i don't know why but i keep feeling serious when kenya-Ethiopia issue gets raised these days. It's just obvious having clashes in borders

Thanks

I know why you are feeling jittery grin Kenya-Ethiopia relations must forever be tight (as tight as mpenzis) grin

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