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Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nobody: 11:43am On Aug 27, 2019
Sleevia:


Was the South East VP? I don't take most of you serious because you're often talking based sentiments.
Was GEJ burying our soldiers in shallow grave? Were we a divided as we are now? So many questions you people will never ask.. But my joy is this will eventually lead to the final break up of this country.

You are talking about the North not forgetting as if South South has forgotten what you did to their son.

The North you are banking on has stated that after PMB, there will be no block vote. I have evidence to this.

Just know that in 2023 it will be a different ball game. PMB even had it tough winning his second term nit to talk to South Westerner lol. Mind you the North was 100% responsible for his second "win" so do not have your hopes so high that you did much because the North knows it. One of them even stated that they are disappointed in the South West despite "everything PMB has done" they were even proposing focusing on Niger Delta. If you doubt this as well, I have prove.


Don't get your hopes so high. By 2022, you will have your heart in your mouth.

you are talking a lot of nonsense


1. Election is a numbers game. If you dont have the numbers you cant influence an election.

2. PVC has meant manufactured numbers have gone down, which is why manufactured votes from SS and SE have been going down in the last 2 elections.

3. The SE wasnt VP but it was a lesson to the north. The north have tradionally less trust for the SE than the SS. Dont forget the Igbo coup killed all theor traditional politicl leaders in balewa and Sardauna...they havent forgotten and will not forget.

4. Division in this country only happenned when the SE were removed from the corridors of power for the 1st time in the history of the country. Under every disposition The SE elite have always been beneficiaries even if they wernt in Power. They fuelled the division when they put all their eggs in PDP and lost.

3. There is not block vote which is why the SE vote is irrelevant and the SW is the real battle ground and has been since 2015, it's the only region where the voyers change their votes.

4. I dont care who becomes president, all I am saying is SE will not produce the president 100%

5. I have already said that things will be different in 2023 because the Buhari influence in the North will be diminished.

6. The North will NEVER sanction a SE president

6. i have no hopes, i am just giving you an unbiased analysis.

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Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by TSRC: 11:44am On Aug 27, 2019
The odds favour PDP in 2023 especially with an Igbo candidate.
We would clear the south with ease.
If the PDP can still gain the states they got in the.north and take advantage of buhari's absence to do better in the K States, then APC is gone.
They did very well in the governorship election in kano.

That is why buhari wants to infiltrate the south with his ministerial list.

From the 2019 elections, He knows PDP already has one leg in the final and the north is anyone's game.

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Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by TSRC: 11:46am On Aug 27, 2019
isthatso:


you are talking a lot of nonsense


1. Election is a numbers game. If you dont have the numbers you cant influence an election.

2. PVC has meant manufactured numbers have gone down, which is why manufactured votes from SS and SE have been going down in the last 2 elections.

3. The SE wasnt VP but it was a lesson to the north. The north have tradionally less trust for the SE than the SS. Dont forget the Igbo coup killed all theor traditional politicl leaders in balewa and Sardauna...they havent forgotten and will not forget.

4. Division in this country only happenned when the SE were removed from the corridors of power for the 1st time in the history of the country. Under every disposition The SE elite have always been beneficiaries even if they wernt in Power. They fuelled the division when they put all their eggs in PDP and lost.

3. There is not block vote which is why the SE vote is irrelevant and the SW is the real battle ground and has been since 2015, it's the only region where the voyers change their votes.

4. I dont care who becomes president, all I am saying is SE will not produce the president 100%

5. I have already said that things will be different in 2023 because the Buhari influence in the North will be diminished.

6. The North will NEVER sanction a SE president

6. i have no hopes, i am just giving you an unbiased analysis.
You would be alive to see a south east president soon.
I hope you don't commit suicide. Not that I would care.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nobody: 11:47am On Aug 27, 2019
TSRC:
The odds favour PDP in 2023 especially with an Igbo candidate.
We would clear the south with ease.
If the PDP can still gain the states they got in the.north and take advantage of buhari's absence to do better in the K States, then APC is gone.
They did very well in the governorship election in kano.

That is why buhari wants to infiltrate the south with his ministerial list.

From the 2019 elections, He knows PDP already has one leg in the final and the north is anyone's game.

Se has the lowest votes of all the votes, Se will always vote for PDP whether the candidate is Ibo or hausa. Therefore there is nothing to gain by giving the presidential slot to the SE. Atiku paid dearly for giving the VP slot to the SE, If PDp havent learnt their lesson they never will.



sentiment does not win elections arithmetic does. if I already have all your votes and I know that whatever I do you will not vot for my rival, what do I have to gain by bribing you with presidential or VP slot, when I can give another zone with much higher numbers who weren't going to vote for me and steal votes from my rival? This is why Atiku lost!!!!!

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Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by TSRC: 11:50am On Aug 27, 2019
IntrovertedK:
lie lie. Fear of yorubas defeating you at the poll is the reason you will keep selling your birthright to your northern masters.
Whatever we do is.not your concern.
If we decide to run, it is.our discretion.
If we decide to play the long game, it is still within our discretion.

If the south West were so smart they should have ran against Jonathan in 2023. The lose would have been landslide.

Because you are now among the incumbent administration, you suddenly feel politics have changed.
Clown angry angry
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Sleevia: 11:51am On Aug 27, 2019
IntrovertedK:
as far as i'm concerned, there was never any killings of igbo since history doesn't begets/reflects the present.
it does not negate the fact that you live a a sithole and you deserve it
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Mrfeel: 11:53am On Aug 27, 2019
Osidazz19:




Jealous of WHO? Pls stay off the crack. Drugs are bad for your health.

Yoruba's are jealous of us, aren't we igbos doing better even in Lagos buying lands from Yoruba people building houses and renting it out to Yoruba people? We are the reason Lagos is developed, we are the highest revenue generators in Lagos importing and exporting doing businesses around Lagos you yoruba's are jealous
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Ekpeitit(m): 11:54am On Aug 27, 2019
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by TSRC: 11:55am On Aug 27, 2019
isthatso:


Se has the lowest votes of all the votes, Se will always vote for PDP whether the candidate is Ibo or hausa. Therefore there is nothing to gain by giving the presidential slot to the SE. Atiku paid dearly for giving the VP slot to the SE, If PDp havent learnt their lesson they never will.



sentiment does not win elections arithmetic does. if I already have all your votes and I know that whatever I do you will not vot for my rival, what do I have to gain by bribing you with presidential or VP slot, when I can give another zone with much higher numbers who weren't going to vote for me and steal votes from my rival? This is why Atiku lost!!!!!
Atiku lost because he stood no chance against a buhari.
I know people that would have voted for PDP if it was anybody but atiku.
In fact Peter obi helped him massively in the south in galvanising intelligent southern votes and Igbo and SS votes everywhere.
Atiku got over a million votes in akwa ibom. No Yoruba candidate can do that for him.

If peter obi ran for President, those bagages of corruption that affected atiku would not be there.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Ekpeitit(m): 11:55am On Aug 27, 2019
What's this Igbo monkey talking about?
Who needs the South East?
Abeg go back to Biafra, you are not a Nigerian.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nobody: 11:55am On Aug 27, 2019
TSRC:

You would be alive to see a south east president soon.
I hope you don't commit suicide. Not that I would care.

it will NEVER happen! of that I am sure In the same way as you havent forgotten the civil war despite the fact that most of you were not born, so also the North will never forget sardauna and Balewa.

IBO presidency will never happen in Nigeria. once one party announces an Ibo presidential candidate, all the other party has to do is announce someone from ANY other region and game over.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by ityP(m): 11:55am On Aug 27, 2019
HAKYN1:



Your ancestors deserve that title more



I agree. Cos if my ancestors had not bedded with yours, you clan won't have existed,and Nigeria would have been a better place
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Franking: 11:56am On Aug 27, 2019
bonnylight003:



Water and oil are so different.... That's the honest truth.
Some will quote me and pretend against this truth..
But like pregnancy...you can hide this fact..

What's the truth about it?
Shut up if u have nothing sensible to say.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by ityP(m): 11:58am On Aug 27, 2019
Franking:


What's the truth about it?
Shut up if u have nothing sensible to say.



You are the one that is supposed to shut up, cos what he said it's the truth.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by TSRC: 11:58am On Aug 27, 2019
Osibanjo lost in his own polling unit in Lagos.
That is the Peter obi effect.

If not for buhari that hammered atiku in the north, that election for mad.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nobody: 11:59am On Aug 27, 2019
KidsNEXTdoor:
sad sad

There is no disagreement anywhere

APc will field Tinubu and El rufai... A Muslim Muslim ticket...

PDP like we all know has already zoned their presidency to the north ...

Maybe a Tambuwal wike... Kwankwaso who knows


Ur Nigga buhari said anyone in apc who wants to contest for presidency should come forward
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by TSRC: 12:00pm On Aug 27, 2019
isthatso:


it will NEVER happen! of that I am sure In the same way as you havent forgotten the civil war despite the fact that most of you were not born, so also the North will never forget sardauna and Balewa.

IBO presidency will never happen in Nigeria. once one party announces an Ibo presidential candidate, all the other party has to do is announce someone from ANY other region and game over.
Ogà shut up.
It will happen and there is nothing you or your generation can do about it.

Quoting you is just to give you an underserved importance.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nobody: 12:00pm On Aug 27, 2019
helinues:
But agreement between SW and North is an election winner combo..

SW is going for the jugular in 2023.. No looking back

Apc isn't fielding a yoruba man or any southerner

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Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nobody: 12:02pm On Aug 27, 2019
mrvitalis:
The truth is simple ,north would form alliance with the east in 2023 and with that back stab the west

I just hope my igbo brothers would learn and form alliance with the new political leaders that would rise after the defeat of APC so we wont be in the position the south west would be in 2023 8 years from that time

U mean another Fulani should rule for 8 years?
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by mrvitalis(m): 12:02pm On Aug 27, 2019
PrecisionFx:


U mean another Fulani should rule for 8 years?
Its either an igbo man or a fulani
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by TSRC: 12:03pm On Aug 27, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Apc isn't fielding a yoruba man or any southerner
I honestly wouldn't mind if APC fields a Yoruba and PDP fields a strong northerner.

Let us play the 2015 elections again the other way round, and show them that there is nothing special about their politics of treachery.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by nogragra: 12:03pm On Aug 27, 2019
Eastlink:
The other way round. The Yoruba's are the envious ones. History has shown us that.
The Igbo's have repaid the Yoruba's in good deeds, it is the Yoruba's that are yet to do so
Remind me when you cast your vote for an Igbo man, the last time they did for Abiola and Obasanjo.
Lies from hell! Una vote or run to potopoto land thinking yorubas will be attacked by Northerners as yall wickedly wish until the day is upon yall. Yeye evil beasts from the east.

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Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nobody: 12:05pm On Aug 27, 2019
TSRC:

Whatever we do is.not your concern.
If we decide to run, it is.our discretion.
If we decide to play the long game, it is still within our discretion.

If the south West were so smart they should have ran against Jonathan in 2023. The lose would have been landslide.

Because you are now among the incumbent administration, you suddenly feel politics have changed.
Clown angry angry
at least you've made it clear that you people are inconsequential and at the same time a coward who can only hide behind your northern masters to make your opinion known instead of coming out to face your perceived worst enemy and brawl it out. What we did in 2015 is known as 'strategizing for the future'. Even a dead rat would have won that m.o.ronic President Jonathan. The useless thing was a disgrace to intellects worldwide that the power all over the world was against hime. He was such a scum of a leader.

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Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nobody: 12:08pm On Aug 27, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Apc isn't fielding a yoruba man or any southerner
true that. Because apc belongs to your father and he already told you his plans for the party.

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Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Osidazz19: 12:08pm On Aug 27, 2019
Mrfeel:


Yoruba's are jealous of us, aren't we igbos doing better even in Lagos buying lands from Yoruba people building houses and renting it out to Yoruba people? We are the reason Lagos is developed, we are the highest revenue generators in Lagos importing and exporting doing businesses around Lagos you yoruba's are jealous

There's nothing wrong in living in self delusion of grandeur. You also own Houston and Atlanta too. What a JOKE. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nwakanwa92(m): 12:08pm On Aug 27, 2019
EkperemoEgbabi:


Ozuo. Shey I resumbule ibo for ya eye?

look at this hooligan are u better than average Igbo man eh? oh, I pity your useless afonja papa
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by nogragra: 12:09pm On Aug 27, 2019
Eastlink:
The other way round. The Yoruba's are the envious ones. History has shown us that.
The Igbo's have repaid the Yoruba's in good deeds, it is the Yoruba's that are yet to do so
Remind me when you cast your vote for an Igbo man, the last time they did for Abiola and Obasanjo.
Lies from hell! What is there to envy in Igbo? Is it the name that means headbutt, or the flat heads or una crimes, or una potopoto republic or una wannabe attitude or greed or evil or hatred, envy or no respect for elders or yamayama tins...abeg second base o jare. Una vote or run to potopoto land thinking yorubas will be attacked by Northerners as yall wickedly wish only for you to all troop back shamelessly to Yoruba land. Make una continue until the day is upon yall. History will never be kind with yall and your deceptive lies and ways. Yeye evil beasts from the east.
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Cajal(m): 12:10pm On Aug 27, 2019
mrvitalis:

Yet PDP gathered more vote than APC in the south ...even osibanjo lost his ward
South east and south...PDP
Sw..APC
Nw..apc
Ne..apc
Nc...apc
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Nobody: 12:11pm On Aug 27, 2019
TSRC:

Atiku lost because he stood no chance against a buhari.
I know people that would have voted for PDP if it was anybody but atiku.
In fact Peter obi helped him massively in the south in galvanising intelligent southern votes and Igbo and SS votes everywhere.
Atiku got over a million votes in akwa ibom. No Yoruba candidate can do that for him.

If peter obi ran for President, those bagages of corruption that affected atiku would not be there.


I dont think you are getting the logic of this thing, SE and SS always vote for PDP irrespective of who the candidate is

So by putting Peter Obi on the Ballot you have not gained any vote because these people were NEVER going to vote for BUhari. This is the irrelevance of the block SE vote, it is a PDP voting block no matter who is contesting whether you give them a slot does not add or subtract from your numbers. Atiku lost because he could not capitalise of the disenfranchised in the SW, Buhari won in 2015 because the SW had an incentive to vote for him. Winning elections is about consolidating your base but MORE IMPORTANT is taking votes from your opponent.

Like i said nobody from SE is going to vote for Buhari so by putting Obi on the ballot you encourage 1 man to vote who at worst would have sat at home because he was never going to vote for Buhari. So your effort has increased your margin by 1 vote

Contrast that with stealing a vote from the SW from somebody who was disenfranchised with Buhari but had no alternative. you take 1 vote from Buhari and add 1 to your total, you increase your margin by 2! Do you now see how this works?

every vote you steal from your opponent increases your margin my 2 which is why the most stupid thing Atiku did was to give the VP slot to peter Obi. If you steal 500K votes from the SW, you have removed 500k in the SW from Buhari and added 500k to your total, net effect is increase margin of 1 million. I am not sure the whole votes in the SE was up to 1 million


think about it!!!
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Jimasun: 12:12pm On Aug 27, 2019
mrvitalis:
Lol envious and be backed Obj show me one igbos yorubas has backed
Yoruba voted Azikwe. Gerrout
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by Mrfeel: 12:12pm On Aug 27, 2019
Osidazz19:


There's nothing wrong in living in self delusion of grandeur. You also own Houston and Atlanta too. What a JOKE. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

You can't argue about what I just said cause you know it's true
Re: 2023: Only South-West, South-East Disagreement Can Keep Power In North – Ahamba by seunmsg(m): 12:18pm On Aug 27, 2019
isthatso:


There is nobody of substance from the SW in PDP who can win an election. is it fayose? or Bode george? or Kashamu? .....but then this is Nigeria

One of them will contest for the ticket whether he wins or not. In the south west, we won’t support a northern candidate for president in 2023 irrespective of party.

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