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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 6:04pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
sleekdot:Pep made Messi or Messi was maturing? Lol |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:04pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
patrickmuf: Ronaldo was already best player in the world before Mourinho, Kaka was already best player in the world before Mourinho, So what peak were they going to again 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:05pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
kendrick93: Pep made Messi, he converted him from a winger into a false 9 and we saw the effect on the goals sheet 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 6:05pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:What team? Which part of pep ruined Bayern don't you understand. The team pep already scattered and changed. Broke up the partnership of Martinez and Schwin.with other rubbish he did |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 6:06pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
sleekdot:I'm still in shock about this post |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:06pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
kendrick93: Pogba and Lukaku alone costs more than that. How much did Mourinho spend and couldbnt get past Sevilla, Sevillas record signing was Muriel for 20M 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 6:06pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
sleekdot:Fallacy. Messi was always a generational talent. With or without pep he would have dominated. He didn't make shittt but helped developed him. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 6:07pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
sleekdot: Carlo used that squad and won the UCL. Next year he did not and had a bad league season so he was fired. Because RM knew the peak of those players were being underutilised. They fired Benitez as well and left Zizou because he was at least maximizing it. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 6:08pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
sleekdot:It was before Mourinho won. Are you disputing the fact that before Mourinho won Barca Didn't win the league thrice. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 6:09pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Hahaha hahaha Broke up partnership of Martinez who had a really bad injury Pep's first seasons and was out for almost a season? Did Schweiny ever tell you he had a problem with Pep? What about Robben? Muller? Lahm? Alaba? Lol. Go and watch Bayern of 2015/16 highlights and compare with with 2011/12 or 2012/13. Robben said he thought he was past it but Pep actually improved him. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:10pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:Dayo said after Bayern's treble, the players were out of their peak period by making reference to the fact that they peaked when they won the treble... So,why can't Mou failure to win the UCL in Madrid be tied to the fact that the players then had not reached the peak of their career? Now, this is me pointing out the selectivity in application of certain logic in the whole argument you guys have been having here... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 6:10pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:For the six seasons before Mourinho came to Madrid, tell us the round in which they were eliminated from the Champions league? That was the team Mourinho meet while his successors meet regular semi finalist |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 6:10pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Stop changing mouth. Mou was there when Pep won the league. Mou met Madrid who had not won in 2 seasons and still got bitch-slapped by Pep. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Heywhizzy(m): 6:11pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
airmark:MI must have hurt you before, both of y'all taking beef between two grown men more personal |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:11pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
kendrick93: The evidence is there for everyone to see. Messi production before Pep and after Pep Messi 06/07 - 17 goals in all competition Messi 07/08 - 16 goals in all competition Enter Pep Guardiola Messi 08/09 - 38 goals in all compeition (More than doubled previous season) Messi 09/10 - 47 goals in all competition Messi 10/11 - 53 goals in all competition 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 6:11pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1:imagine...Messi wey I don hear since 2005 to be next maradona.... As at 2007 there were already calls that he was going to be the greatest player ever.... Messi was already amongst the best players In the world before anybody for this world even know they were calling Pep... Hahhaaha.... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:12pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: This generational talent did not score 20 goals a season before Pep The evidence is there for everyone to see. Messi production before Pep and after Pep Messi 06/07 - 17 goals in all competition Messi 07/08 - 16 goals in all competition Enter Pep Guardiola Messi 08/09 - 38 goals in all compeition (More than doubled previous season) Messi 09/10 - 47 goals in all competition Messi 10/11 - 53 goals in all competition 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:12pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
kendrick93: How many goals did this next Maradona score before Pep |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 6:13pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
sleekdot:How old was Messi in 06/2007 bro? Do know what they call maturity at all? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:14pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Who wrote the below? Do you admit to lying when you posted the below? spillo1: 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 6:14pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
kendrick93: Why didn't you ask for his age in 2007/08? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:14pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
kendrick93: Messi in 07/08 was dropping 16 goals a season 12 months later he was dropping more than double 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 6:16pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:LMFAO man said highlight. What about Muller,lahm? Brought a style of player that got Bayern demolished and gang raped by Spanish merchant. Took a treble winning team and couldn't get to a champions league final. Peaked my ass. Guardiola was a failure that's why they couldn't get to another final |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:16pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
patrickmuf: How can players who have won Balon dor before Mourinho still be waiting to reach their peak? Not 1 but 2 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 6:17pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Madrid peaked 2003 and signed poorly to replace those players so they suffered. From 2007, the new rebuilding process took shape and by 2009 that team was reaching its peak. Pellegrini had 96pts with that team. They fired him because they felt he was not fully maximising the peak of the team so they hired Mou. He did only one better by winning league. He did not maximise the team so he too was fired. Then Carlo and Zidane did the rest. Pep met Barca that had passed their peak. Rijkaard signed aged already established players and they helped him from 2003-2006. By 2007 they lost their way. They let him try but by 2008 it was clear he could not maximise their potential so they fired him. Which is where the story gets interesting. They wanted a manager to maximise the team's potential but Pep said I will get rid of Ronnie..Deco etc and rebuild. Enjoy the ride. That is why your structure argument was rubbish. That is why your Mou and UCL arguments are rubbish. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 6:17pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1:na so...that martinez- Bastian combo was so good but Pep destroyed that midfield before it even got started...he even stunted Alaba's growth by shifting him all over the pitch.... I remembered Alaba was the best LB in europe under Juup.... Alaba has still not hit those heights ever since |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 6:17pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
sleekdot:Doesn't a year of maturity count for something? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:17pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Muller scored his highest number of goals under Pep Guardiola Robben said he improved under Pep like he never did under any other coach(He played under Mourinho and Ancelotti) 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick93(m): 6:18pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
TLona1:the one where he was out for half of that season with injury? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 6:18pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
patrickmuf: You mean a player doubles his output within 12months when a new coach comes and he is played in a new role? Will Messi be dropping these figures if he was still pinned to the wings like the previous coaches did 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 6:19pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:Mourinho league title was the first for Madrid in 4 seasons. That's the fact. He did not inherit a team that won the previous championship by 24fecking point like your fraud did. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 6:19pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
With the look of things at present, even if Pep had won the UCL in Bayern, these people would have still looked for some excuses that will undermine that achievement. 1 Like |
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