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Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Nobody: 6:45pm On May 12, 2011 |
The Lagos State Government has sent back 3,029 beggars to their various states in the country and 15 foreign beggars to their country in a bid to rid the state of the nuisance they pose. The state has also begun sending children from Lagos abroad for adoption, with 152 children already adopted by foreign countries. Special Adviser to the Governor on Youth and Social Development, Dr. Dolapo Badru disclosed this today at a news conference at the Babauda Kaltho Press Centre, Secretariat, Alausa in Ikeja, Lagos , South West Nigeria. “At least, 3,044 persons were either transferred to other states or country, released to their relations for re-integration between January 2010 to date,” he said. The statistics showed that 196 beggars were deported to Sokoto State; 83 to Oyo State; 75 to Kano State; 67 to Osun State while 21 were deported to Ekiti State and seven to Ondo State. Also, 12 beggars were deported to Niger Republic ; two to Chad Republic and one to Cote d’voire while 2,580 others were handed over to their relations for integration. Badru said the state government in its bid to rid the state of beggars, combed the five divisions of the state to pick up the beggars and destitute. According to him, beggars and destitute constitute a social nuisance towards the development of Lagos as a mega city, saying that in the last one year, 3,105 beggars, destitute and lunatics were rescued and taken to rehabilitation and training centres at Owutu, Ikorodu. “This is where the state government has made provisions for facilities to help in turning the lives of the destitute and beggars around while the mentally unstable are given medical attention. “Out of this number, 38 able-bodied persons suspected to be criminals were handed over to the task force for prosecution. Rescue of beggars from the streets of Lagos is a continuous exercise and the office liaises with other security agencies to rid Lagos streets of beggars, destitute and lunatics,” he said. The special adviser appealed to Lagosians to desist from giving beggars and destitute on the streets alms as they constituted a menace and nuisance to the society. He enjoined members of the public who might wish to help the less privileged in the society to donate their widow’s mite to any church, mosque, registered orphanage, motherless babies home or any social welfare institution. In the area of adoption and fostering, Badru disclosed that to date, various applications were received from prospective adopters, locally and internationally who were screened in order to determine their suitability for adopting children while 177 letters of approval were granted. He disclosed that 126 children were adopted by members of the public and 11 released for fostering, adding that 174 children had their adoptions legalised through the Juvenile Court while additional 161 babies were rescued and referred to various government homes and private orphanages. The special adviser stated that his office was currently working on new guidelines for adoption and fostering, saying that the office currently related with some countries in respect of international adoption. The countries are Italy, The Netherlands, Sweden, France, Spain, Belgium, Denmark, Switzerland, United States of America, United Kingdom, Germany and Canada . “International adoption gives succour to children with medical challenges,” he said, adding that screening was conducted for international adopters who wanted to adopt children from Lagos . He said 152 children had been adopted so far by 10 countries such as Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, Denmark and Belgium . The breakdown shows that 20 children were adopted by Italy; 41 by The Netherlands; 15 by Spain; 12 by Switzerland; 25 by Denmark; eight by Belgium; 16 by the United States; eight by the United Kingdom; two by Germany and five by Canada. http://www.nigerianews24.com/articles/lagos-ejects-over-3000-beggars |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by 2mch(m): 6:51pm On May 12, 2011 |
Donlittle: We hope they are not giving these children out to predators as sex slaves. What kind of screening are they talking about, when everything in Nigeria goes to the highest bidder. Back ground checks on most of these parents may reveal some very sordid details. Do they ask them to bring court certified criminal background checks from their respective countries? The illicit trafficking of little children as sex slaves is very common, and Africa is easy to get these poor children from. The Lagos state government should be very careful and wary. Statistics also show that black children are the least likely to be adopted, especially in European countries. With a high success rate as this, one only has to really wonder. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Fhemmmy: 7:13pm On May 12, 2011 |
2mch: Or let us hope they are not going use the kids for money rituals |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Mynd44: 7:14pm On May 12, 2011 |
Good ridance at least Kano street will get a little bit decongested 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by ektbear: 9:00pm On May 12, 2011 |
Good move |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Obiagu1(m): 9:14pm On May 12, 2011 |
Donlittle: Sokoto = 196 Kano = 75 Total = 271 Oyo = 83 Osun = 67 Ekiti = 21 Ondo = 7 Total = 178 Of those whose states were declared, one can see the trend, a competition between the North and the SW on who will produce the most beggars. At least the North and the SW have a common bond, ALMAJIRI. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Nobody: 9:16pm On May 12, 2011 |
Obiagu1:basic idiots gets no time of the day, were |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by 2mch(m): 9:22pm On May 12, 2011 |
Obiagu1: Any one that has stayed long enough in SW and knows the language can claim he is from a particular area. Close enough so that they can return to the area or be dropped off at places where they know they have a chance of begging successfully. Your break down does not mean anything. In fact it is well known that most of the beggars in Lagos are from Niger. About 70 % of them. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Obiagu1(m): 9:27pm On May 12, 2011 |
2mch: Where do you live? Probably grew up in the UK or US. The truth will always stare you at your face, deny as much as you want, the truth will always be there. The almajiri has come to stay in the SW and their number is growing rapidly. Take it or leave it. I'll also point out that a large number of the 2,580 beggars returned to their relatives were Yoruba. Northern almajiri often don't have relatives. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by hunkyjohn(m): 9:29pm On May 12, 2011 |
Excellent move. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by idnole4(m): 9:32pm On May 12, 2011 |
We hope they are not giving these children out to predators as sex slaves. What kind of screening are they talking about, when everything in Nigeria goes to the highest bidder. Back ground checks on most of these parents may reveal some very sordid details. Do they ask them to bring court certified criminal background checks from their respective countries? The illicit trafficking of little children as sex slaves is very common, and Africa is easy to get these poor children from. The Lagos state government should be very careful and wary. Statistics also show that black children are the least likely to be adopted, especially in European countries. With a high success rate as this, one only has to really wonder. this is very important. the govt. must take caution, |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by bashr4: 9:34pm On May 12, 2011 |
enugu state did the same thing durin chimaroke tenure but i doubt if this will work in lagos they will always find their way back abi no be naija we dey again. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by 2mch(m): 9:34pm On May 12, 2011 |
Obiagu1: I have lived in Lagos all my life. And 70% of the beggers are from niger. They have been there since the early 90's. begging is a business to them. And most SW states are urban. I think they will rather go to other SW states than face stiff competition in the north. Just like there are beggars all over the world. It doesnt mean anything. Look below and stop claiming that Igbo's dont beg too, some of them might even be Igbo: [size=14pt]Enugu First Lady warns beggars[/size] On June 16, 2010 · In News Enugu— Mrs Clara Chime, wife of Enugu State governor, has warned beggars to stay off the streets or face arrest and prosecution. Chime gave the warning, yesterday in Enugu while presenting gifts and money to some beggars arrested for parading major streets of the state. According to her, “begging is not a good thing. I will give you money to go and start petty trading. I will also give you clothes for you and your children. “If I catch you on the streets again, I will arrest and jail you. The annoying thing is that none of you is a destitute person because you all have houses.†She criticised them for exposing their children to danger. In her remarks, the Commissioner for Gender Affairs and Social Development, Mrs Ndidi Chukwu, recalled that the ministry had been taking the beggars off the streets only for them to return. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/06/enugu-first-lady-warns-beggars/ |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by violent(m): 9:37pm On May 12, 2011 |
How is this a good move? The state has no such powers to deport Nigerians from one state to another, this is a flaggrant abuse of the Nigerian constitution and disregard for due process, if individuals involved should press charges, I am more than 80% sure they'd have a claim on the government, the problem is, these people are too poor both financially and in terms of knowledge to afford a fight against the state. The Chapter IV of the Nigerian constituition provides an allowance for the fundamental human rights, section 41 of it states that: Every citizen of Nigeria is entitled to move freely throughout Nigeria and to reside in any part thereof, and no citizen of Nigeria shall be expelled from Nigeria or refused entry thereby or exit therefrom. Nigerians ought to understand and fight for their own rights, the fact that these people are beggars does not make them any less Nigerian |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by MaiSuya(m): 9:38pm On May 12, 2011 |
Donlittle: Does the State government have the right to deport--if thats the right term-- a Nigerian citizen from its State? Isnt that against the constitution that guarantees freedom of movement within the country? |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by MaiSuya(m): 9:39pm On May 12, 2011 |
violent: thank you O. I think say na only me see am. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by 2mch(m): 9:40pm On May 12, 2011 |
Mai Suya: Does the constitution state that they have a right to become a nuisance at their own risk? Where in the constitution does it state that begging is legal, and they have a right to harass and assault people for money? They should go to their homes where they have shelter's and family support around them. They were simply returned to their homes and not deported. At least they will not run the risk of death on the road ( burial at the state's expense) after being crushed by vehicles or being used for rituals. A lot of them are from Niger and should be deported. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by ektbear: 9:41pm On May 12, 2011 |
Whether the law allows it or not, I'm glad it was done. Beggars are a nuisance |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by violent(m): 9:42pm On May 12, 2011 |
2mch: The constitution is clear and firm, and is there to serve a purpose, not bent to do our own bidding. It states that these individuals have a protected right to reside anywhere they wish in Nigeria, who't the state governor/legislators to say otherwise? |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by 2mch(m): 9:45pm On May 12, 2011 |
violent: So the constitution states that they should reside on the road, and cost the government so much money to chase them away or bury them. I do not see that in the constitution. And they are a nuisance, which can affect productivity and even investments in a state. Let them go back home and make something of themselves if Lagos is to expensive for them to live in. It is simply harassment and assault. Most of them also indulge in a lot of armed robbery and other criminal activities. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Nobody: 9:47pm On May 12, 2011 |
violent: So who's keeping the beggars away from the streets of Abuja cuz they don't flood Abuja like Lagos even with the fact that their business may move better here than in Lagos and other parts of Nigeria ? |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Kobojunkie: 9:50pm On May 12, 2011 |
violent: Thank you! This is part of reason I was in support of the idea of abolishing the STATE OF ORIGIN nonsense we have today. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Obiagu1(m): 9:51pm On May 12, 2011 |
2mch: Have you ever been to the East? If you have, you wouldn't have posted this. There are beggars in the East and they are Northerners, though they are few. It's like an unwritten tabboo in Igboland to beg. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by 2mch(m): 9:52pm On May 12, 2011 |
Obiagu1: Stop lying, and go through this link below again: 2mch: Fourteen of the beggars, who came from Ebonyi, were repatriated to their state, while the one from Awgu in Enugu State was given a job in her pet project. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/06/enugu-first-lady-warns-beggars/ |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by violent(m): 9:53pm On May 12, 2011 |
I'm convinced someone hacked into your account, this couldn't have come from you 2mch: You still don't get it, the law does not make allowance for the state to eject people it deems as nuisance, doing so at its own will is dangerous to everything that democracy stood for. How then can we say we have a government by the people and for the people, if an elected, sworn in government disregards the constitution with impunity? what's the difference between now and the days of Abacha? If we can disregard these people's right to movement, then we can as well disregard their right to life? simply because they exist at the lowest rung of the ladder? fúck that shyt! In the UK, a Police Officer is about to be sentenced to jail, probably for the rest of his life, simply because he pushed a drunk, poor civilian hard on the pavement which eventually led to the death of the civilian. No one should have a higher right than the other, this is no animal farm! |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by MaiSuya(m): 9:55pm On May 12, 2011 |
2mch: where in the constitution is it stated that begging is not legal? there you go. The fact that they're beggars does not in any way stop them from being prosecuted should they break any of our laws. They must however break the law first, before the action within the law can be taken against them. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by ektbear: 9:56pm On May 12, 2011 |
Naw, it was me making the post. Why should Lagos be burdened by the drain? It is an eyesore and drives away legitimate business. Anyway, I'm sure there are laws against begging/loitering/etc. They could also be arrested I suppose. But that would also drain more resources than simply packing them on a bus to their state of origin. This solution is cheaper and more likely to last longer. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by 2mch(m): 9:58pm On May 12, 2011 |
Mai Suya: violent: They were simply returned to their homes. Last time i checked if they are begging on the road, they are most likely homeless. And if it is career to them, then they were fired and given a free ride to their last known address. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, when did Niger or chad, become Nigeria? Let them keep deporting them sef, all the better for people that dont have to go through all the harassment when they want to leave their homes. You still have not answered where it says in the constitution that being a nuisance and harassing people is legal; because that is what begging is. No matter how you like to dress it. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Obiagu1(m): 9:59pm On May 12, 2011 |
2mch: Did I tell you I didn't read it? Well, I will not argue with you on this. Take a bus to Enugu, go round the city, talk to the beggars there or from their look, you'll know who they are. After that, then come and comment on what you witnessed and stop talking crap. We practice an extended family system and it's intensive. if it comes to a point that you can no longer feed your kids, a relative will take him/her away from you. |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by 2mch(m): 10:01pm On May 12, 2011 |
Obiagu1: Read again: 2mch: |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by violent(m): 10:04pm On May 12, 2011 |
ekt_bear: If we follow this approach, then we probably don't even need correctional facilities, we might as well just kill people who have done one thing wrong or the other, simply because it's cheaper and more likely to last longer! For crying out loud, these are Nigerians, why should you or me feel we have higher rights than they do? because we are better off financially and are not a burden to the state? If these people don't have money, the only thing they should probably hold on to is their fundamental human rights both as humans and as a citizen of a particular country, if we take these away from them, then we might as well just throw them off a bridge. A society they say is measured by how it treats its weakest, its a shame, that in Nigeria, the weakest are treated worse than dogs! |
Re: Lagos Ejects/deport Over 3000 Beggars (Good or bad move? by Obiagu1(m): 10:05pm On May 12, 2011 |
I don't know about Ebonyi because that State is really strange. One from Enugu, I'm not surprised about that. I expect rare cases, but 14 from Ebonyi, I now see why the 1st lady acted quickly about it. |
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