When are they sending the other ibo beggars to iboland .

@violent: Unless you are offering money to accomodate these parasites beggars draining away Lagos's wealth (directly or indirectly), then it doesn't make much sense to talk about all this "fundamental human rights" nonsense.

Is that going to butter anyone's bread?

If you are a drain on the resources of Lagos State and prevent Lagos from moving ahead, then you should go back to your home. Simple as that.

And if you disagree, then put money up to change this.

Obiagu1:

Sokoto = 196
Kano = 75
Total = 271

Oyo = 83
Osun = 67
Ekiti = 21
Ondo = 7
Total = 178

Of those whose states were declared, one can see the trend, a competition between the North and the SW on who will produce the most beggars. At least the North and the SW have a common bond, ALMAJIRI.

for sure the west have got lots of almajiris , they re next after the north

Basically, I don't believe in "fundamental human rights" that allow one man to leech off of another.

Beggars are no different from a parasite or leech.

They turn places into eyesores, drive away business/commerce, and do nothing productive. They are purely a drain on society.

Nobody should complain about them being forced to return home.

violent:

If we follow this approach, then we probably don't even need correctional facilities, we might as well just kill people who have done one thing wrong or the other, simply because it's cheaper and more likely to last longer!

For crying out loud, these are Nigerians, why should you or me feel we have higher rights than they do? because we are better off financially and are not a burden to the state?

If these people don't have money, the only thing they should probably hold on to is their fundamental human rights both as humans and as a citizen of a particular country, if we take these away from them, then we might as well just throw them off a bridge.

A society they say is measured by how it treats its weakest, its a shame, that in Nigeria, the weakest are treated worse than dogs!

Thank God for common sense!

2mch:

They were simply returned to their homes. Last time i checked if they are begging on the road, they are most likely homeless. And if it is career to them, then they were fired and given a free ride to their last known address. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, when did Niger or chad, become Nigeria?  Let them keep deporting them sef, all the better for people that dont have to go through all the harassment when they want to leave their homes. You still have not answered where it says in the constitution that being a nuisance and harassing people is legal; because that is what begging is. No matter how you like to dress it.

The constitution does not define what is legal, it instead sets a standard for all to abide by.  If we go against these standards when it suits our bidding, then the constitution is simply as worthless as fart!

It's funny how people like you could say Police assault is illegal, but when other 'less' Nigerians are denied their freedom of movement, then it becomes acceptable simply because they are constituting a nuisance to 'bigger' Nigerians.  

What a shame!

Obiagu1:

I don't know about Ebonyi because that State is really strange. One from Enugu, I'm not surprised about that. I expect rare cases, but 14 from Ebonyi, I now see why the 1st lady acted quickly about it.

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Even in Lagos, i see a lot of Igbo beggars around churches. They are more subtle about the act. But they will say "bros, abeg i never chop" " Help me with something smalll, i beg" Not trying to put anyone down, but please dont come out saying there are no beggars in Igbo land or Igbo's dont beg. I have seen them with my eyes. There are beggars all over the world.

^-- Na lie

Igbos don't beg

Their sh1t doesn't stink like others

Their fart smells like roses

etc, etc

2mch:

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Even in Lagos, i see a lot of Igbo beggars around churches. They are more subtle about the act. But they will say "bros, abeg i never chop" " Help me with something smalll, i beg" Not trying to put anyone down, but please dont come out saying there are no beggars in Igbo land or Igbo's dont beg. I have seen them with my eyes. There are beggars all over the world.

You can glean the web for cases of beggars from the East to please you.
The fact remains that Yoruba beggars in Lagos, Ibadan, and other big SW cities are in their hundreds and thousands. Not rare cases of beggars from the East.

You said they are more subtle about it because they know what it means for an Igbo to beg.

Spin as much as you want, the fact remains that beggars are growing rapidly in the SW. The earlier it is tackled the better else you'll become like Kano and Kaduna.

ekt_bear:

@violent: Unless you are offering money to accomodate these parasites beggars draining away Lagos's wealth (directly or indirectly), then it doesn't make much sense to talk about all this "fundamental human rights" nonsense.

Is that going to butter anyone's bread?

If you are a drain on the resources of Lagos State and prevent Lagos from moving ahead, then you should go back to your home. Simple as that.

And if you disagree, then put money up to change this.

If we all refuse to believe in the "fundamental human right" nonsense, what the fúck are we wasting our time at the polls for?

I remember a thread, sometime ago, where we all cursed a state governor to high hell for locking up an individual who disrespected him and called him names, everyone, save a few e-diots, on the thread was disgusted by the show of god-man complex displayed by the power drunk governor.
why do you think both cases differ?

If one government can eject someone it feels is draining its resources and we think this is acceptable,. . . . .  why should we lend a collective criticism if another government locks you up for being disrespectful?

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ekt_bear:

Basically, I don't believe in "fundamental human rights" that allow one man to leech off of another.

Beggars are no different from a parasite or leech.

They turn places into eyesores, drive away business/commerce, and do nothing productive. They are purely a drain on society.

Nobody should complain about them being forced to return home.

Obiagu1:

You can glean the web for cases of beggars from the East to please you.
The fact remains that Yoruba beggars in Lagos, Ibadan, and other big SW cities are in their hundreds and thousands. Not rare cases of beggars from the East.

You said they are more subtle about it because they know what it means for an Igbo to beg.

Spin as much as you want, beggars are growing rapidly in the SW. The earlier it is tackled the better else you'll become like Kano and Kaduna.

All my life, it is Hausa's and nigeriens i have known to beg. Most are now yorubanized no doubt. They are the ones that go around shouting bambiallah. But your notion that Igbo's dont beg is a lie. They do, and i have seen many. Yes, much like Yoruba's you dont see them pretending to be blind or knocking down your side mirror for change. That is Hausa beggar's work. Yoruba beggar's are most likely area boys that may cause some kind of road block or spoil the road and pretend to repair it, while they deman money from you. Igbo's hang around churches to beg. Different styles of begging, but all na same. I am sure most of those returned to SW states are Hausa. Other SW governor's will soon return them to their final destination as well.

not wanting to get into the tribal mishmash, I will however concede that Igbo beggars are [i]relatively [/i]rare

Mai Suya:

not wanting to get into the tribal mishmash, I will however concede that Igbo beggars are [i]relatively [/i]rare

Thank you.
One can never get a 100% of something. Even the most peaceful country in the world have many murder cases every year.

violent:

If we all refuse to believe in the "fundamental human right" nonsense, what the fúck are we wasting our time at the polls for?

I remember a thread, sometime ago, where we all cursed a state governor to high hell for locking up an individual who disrespected him and called him names, everyone, save a few e-diots, on the thread was disgusted by the show of god-man complex displayed by the power drunk governor.
why do you think both cases differ?

If one government can eject someone it feels is draining its resources and we think this is acceptable,. . . . .  why should we lend a collective criticism if another government locks you up for being disrespectful?

There is something your argument over-looks. Sharia was implemented by Northern states, even though parts of it run contrary to the Nigerian constitution. This might not have been an issue for those in the South except that the North has been chopping the hands and arms of thieves for a few decades now. Now, after having had their limbs chopped, these thieves or criminals go down South to beg. Northern states can not be creating a problem for Southern states.

I agree that citizens should be free to move around freely but if a State chops off limbs, then that State must make provisions for such people. It shouldn't fall on other States and citizens to look after them, constitution or not.

Katsumoto:

There is something your argument over-looks. Sharia was implemented by Northern states, even though parts of it run contrary to the Nigerian constitution. This might not have been an issue for those in the South except that the North has been chopping the hands and arms of thieves for a few decades now. Now, after having had their limbs chopped, these thieves or criminals go down South to beg. Northern states can not be creating a problem for Southern states.

I agree that citizens should be free to move around freely but if a State chops off limbs, then that State must make provisions for such people. It shouldn't fall on other States and citizens to look after them, constitution or not.

But what evidence do you have that those who were "DEPORTED" where ALL maimed under sharia? I am trying to understand why you feel SHARIA needs to be brought into this? Is the Lagos state argument then that because Sharia maims people up North, beggars who reside in Lagos need to be deported to Sharia, and non-Sharia States? Or is it that since some parts of Sharia, which is still allowed in the Constitution, runs contrary to the Nigerian constitution, it is OK to ship helpless/near helpless beings to back to their state's of origin?

Kobojunkie:

But what evidence do you have that those who were "DEPORTED" where ALL maimed under sharia? I am trying to understand why you feel SHARIA needs to be brought into this? Is the Lagos state argument then that because Sharia maims people up North, beggars who reside in Lagos need to be deported to Sharia, and non-Sharia States? Or is it that since some parts of Sharia, which is still allowed in the Constitution, runs contrary to the Nigerian constitution, it is OK to ship helpless/near helpless beings to back to their state's of origin?

One can tell apart those born with natural disabilities and those who had limbs chopped off. My argument is more about those whose limbs were chopped off. The States of Origin or whatever State that wickedly chops the limb of a human being should be made to provide for such people rather than States that had no hand in that evil policy. The Nigerian constitution is not a one policy fits all constitution. Sharia States can not ignore it when it doesn't suits them and acknowledge it when it does.

The act of chopping limbs has been going on in Nigeria for decades; the recent implementation of Sharia in some Nothern states only brought it to prominence. Sharia States should not be allowed to create problems for other states; it is very simple.

Begging itself should be frowned upon as it is very unsightly and can be dealt with in other ways besides deportation but such ways are also likely to attract one form of condemnation or the other. I am not disagreeing with your position, I just feel that administrators have to be very pragmatic about the solution.

lmao, wth this is the first time i heard this ppl ccut their fellow citizen hand den send them to the south to beg, Is just like killling 500000 ppl here and then going to north to bury them on their land wen they all yoruba, bullshit. N those frm other country who cme heree to beg, wtf, N sum ppl are siding them,

3 hausa beggars were beating merciless d other day in abuja bcuz they stab a young sw man for taking back his money from the beggar after the beggar refuse to give him change of #50 cuz he just want to gv d beggar only #50 but he has #100 therefore when the hausa man refuse giving change the man take his #100 pin from the greedy mallam. immidiately other two beggers around join the previouse to fight the man and stab him twice. some ibo traders around and passerby come for the man rescue and beat the begars thunder when they hear wat hapen between them.

9ja voice:

3 hausa beggars were beating merciless d other day in abuja bcuz they stab a young sw man for taking back his money from the beggar after the beggar refuse to give him change of #50 cuz he just want to gv d beggar only #50 but he has #100 therefore when the hausa man refuse giving change the man take his #100 pin from the greedy mallam. immidiately other two beggers around join the previouse to fight the man and stab him twice. some ibo traders around and passerby come for the man rescue and beat the begars thunder when they hear wat hapen between them.

lol, what a greedy mallam

9ja voice:

3 hausa beggars were beating merciless d other day in abuja bcuz they stab a young sw man for taking back his money from the beggar after the beggar refuse to give him change of #50 cuz he just want to gv d beggar only #50 but he has #100 therefore when the hausa man refuse giving change the man take his #100 pin from the greedy mallam. immidiately other two beggers around join the previouse to fight the man and stab him twice. some ibo traders around and passerby come for the man rescue and beat the begars thunder when they hear wat hapen between them.

Fastforward to now

Where are those stewpid Ibos now to come and say something here again.... hahahah Fashola is a wise man, He first of all deport people from SW so you guys wont say he is been partial. More Igbos to be deported soon. Make dem go Ladipo market some are just there for nothing sake, No shop, no house no place to go to just causing nuisance in the street of Lagos

The way Igbos have been acting lately is really making me start to hate them.

hehehehehehe. They will avoid this thread, they wont see this ooo. BiGOTS

surprising no one has posted tips on what to do if you are picked up and returned to reunite with your family in your home state.

note: i did not mention any tribe, state or ethnicity, thank you.

~Bluetooth:
When are they sending the other ibo beggars to iboland .

He just did

Obiagu1: I don't know about Ebonyi because that State is really strange. One from Enugu, I'm not surprised about that. I expect rare cases, but 14 from Ebonyi, I now see why the 1st lady acted quickly about it.

No sir, 79 have just been deported to anambra state.