Ibime:
Jorginho has become one of our best players. I would like to think he has adapted to the speed of EPL

Lampard effect

Ibime:
Jorginho has become one of our best players. I would like to think he has adapted to the speed of EPL

Nice......I smile every time I see another similar post. Only very recently, it was seen as very distasteful to support Jorginho on here.

Emaprince:
Lampard effect

fear God.


His game changed towards the end of last season.

Unlimited22:

Tomori has one of the best recoveries I've ever seen, and yes, his pace helps him cover that wing. Emerson is more solid defensively, and contrary to popular opinion, isn't horrible attack wise.

i don't know how people even think that Alonso is better than Emerson in attack?

Emerson just don't want to sacrifice part of his defending just to score a goal, that is why is seems like that.

Emerson dribbles better, crosses better, has more pace and even shot power.

On the other hand, the stupid Alonso will leave his duty post and go running around for where to score goal, and when there is a counter, you will see him far behind the ball and well out of position. Is that how to play as a leftback?

HewlettPackard:


fear God.


His game changed towards the end of last season.

I'm not sure about that. One thing I know is that fans hated and cursed him ....and also demanded that sarri bundles him along while leaving the club.

I honestly never expected Lampard to keep him when I look back at the type of game lamps have played under mourinho. So I expected that his midfield might be filled with physicaly strong and technical player. But now, I see that his tactic is bringing the best out of every player

Look at Tammy(from championship to being listed as a contender for golden boot in EPL), look at mount, Look tomori...bros, you fear God and give the credit to whom it is due.

#Lampardeffect

Ibime:
Jorginho has become one of our best players. I would like to think he has adapted to the speed of EPL

The is good and he has leadership charisma as well.

Emaprince:
Lampard effect

jorginho'had always been a baller.


It was clearly showing as of last season. Fans were not just patient..


Nothing like lampard effect

lordfalcao:
jorginho'had always been a baller.


It was clearly showing as of last season. Fans were not just patient..


Nothing like lampard effect

Tell me u are joking..

Do u know one of the major reasons Jorginho was criticized last season was his lack of forward passes and how fragile he was in that midfield.
Last season Sarri made all our attacks come from Jorginho(Jorginho always looked to play short passes to his defenders and midfielders) and that was why it was easier to stop Chelsea(always close down Jorginho and have a lot of bodies at the back).

The reason why Jorginho has been impressive is because of Lampard's philosophy and the fact that the team is not obsessed with always passing the ball to Jorginho and that is the LampardEffect.
Jorginho has always been a baller but Sarri's rigidity didn't bring the best in him while Lampard's fluidity is doing just that.

lordfalcao:
jorginho'had always been a baller.


It was clearly showing as of last season. Fans were not just patient..


Nothing like lampard effect

He was a baller, yes. But he needed to play in the right system.

Whose system is this ? Sarri?

Did you see jorginho making tackles and winning back some balls? Thats what lampard instilled in him. Now he has more to offer apart from distribution passes. He even plays purposeful passes these days...unlike the usual safe passes he usually give to the nearest man.

Bow to Lampard

lordfalcao:
jorginho'had always been a baller.


It was clearly showing as of last season. Fans were not just patient..


Nothing like lampard effect

This is so wrong.

We were telling you people last season, but because Jorginho was seen as the poster boy for SarriBall(Fabregas even jokingly claimed he couldn't get in the team because of Sarri's 'son', and so he left for Monaco) it was easy to scapegoat him.

All the same, Kudos to Lampard for getting the best from every player minus Barkley and Pedro thus far.

Jorginho have always been good but it seems some of us are suffering from recency bias. Towards the end of last season Jorginho was among the best performers and he showed that in EL final against Arsenal and against ManCity in EFL Cup Final.
He surpassed my expectations judging from the fact that he was joining a new club, new league, and with language barrier and intensity it's always difficult to perform consistently without a drop in performance.

Amoto94:
Jorginho have always been good but it seems some of us are suffering from recency bias. Towards the end of last season Jorginho was among the best performers and he showed that in EL final against Arsenal and against ManCity in EFL Cup Final.
He surpassed my expectations judging from the fact that he was joining a new club, new league, and with language barrier and intensity it's always difficult to perform consistently without a drop in performance.

My brother Wetin burna boy no go see for heaven's gate!
Emaprince even said distribution passes where was he last season when our attackers especially Higuain was wasting his KDB similitude through balls?

Soon they will say Lampard deserves credit for Kante transformation from a DM to a beastly box2box midfielder.

Amoto94:

Jorginho have always been good but it seems some of us are suffering from recency bias. Towards the end of last season Jorginho was among the best performers and he showed that in EL final against Arsenal and against ManCity in EFL Cup Final.
He surpassed my expectations judging from the fact that he was joining a new club, new league, and with language barrier and intensity it's always difficult to perform consistently without a drop in performance.

Did anyone say Jorginho was not good? Why then was Chelsea and Guardiola fighting for his signature?

Last season, the system Sarri used did not bring out the best in him that's why he couldn't perform consistently on a regular basis.

Wot we are saying here is Jorginho has always been good and Lampard's system is getting the best out of him.

Remember last season the play was centered around Jorginho and we had to endure watching the team pass the ball in front of the opposition defence without any real cutting edge..

https://twitter.com/MickLew/status/1185615391512551425?s=19
mad defending.

thorrvik55:


Did anyone say Jorginho was not good? Why then was Chelsea and Guardiola fighting for his signature?

Last season, the system Sarri used did not bring out the best in him that's why he couldn't perform consistently on a regular basis.

Wot we are saying here is Jorginho has always been good and Lampard's system is getting the best out of him.

Remember last season the play was centered around Jorginho and we had to endure watching the team pass the ball in front of the opposition defence without any real cutting edge..

Some called him a jogginghoe meaning he's useless or contributing less to the team's success. Guardiola going after doesn't necessary mean he's good because he has signed not-so-good players in the past.

The Sarriball that brought him into football limelight was not getting the best out of him right? Last season troubles of Jorginho and Chelsea have different reasons some which I have mentioned in my previous post and how he overcame them. As for the others they're lack of movement and execution in our frontline, ball hogging which Hazard and Willian are big culprits and lack of dynamic fullbacks.

HewlettPackard:


My brother Wetin burna boy no go see for heaven's gate!
Emaprince even said distribution passes where was he last season when our attackers especially Higuain was wasting his KDB similitude through balls?

Soon they will say Lampard deserves credit for Kante transformation from a DM to a beastly box2box midfielder.

They display their bias when it comes to Hazard defending him with some of the unreasonable excuses but when it comes to another player that's performing well with less freedom they will criticise with venom and vigour.

Amoto94:

Some called him a jogginghoe meaning he's useless or contributing less to the team's success. Guardiola going after doesn't necessary mean he's good because he has signed not-so-good players in the past.

The Sarriball that brought him into football limelight was not getting the best out of him right? Last season troubles of Jorginho and Chelsea have different reasons some which I have mentioned in my previous post and how he overcame them. As for the others they're lack of movement and execution in our frontline, ball hogging which Hazard and Willian are big culprits and lack of dynamic fullbacks.

So why then was the chain smoker adamant with that approach even when it was obvious it was not working because of how slow the ball was being moved??

Do u see him being obsessed with possession at Juventus or Pjanic averaging 100+ passes per game, do u see Juventus always passing the ball in front of the opposition with no intention of breaking them down??

Imagine if Hazard did not disobey his taktiks, probably we would not be in the Champions League this season..

The system u play in makes or breaks u.

thorrvik55:


So why then was the chain smoker adamant with that approach even when it was obvious it was not working because of how slow the ball was being moved??

Do u see him being obsessed with possession at Juventus or Pjanic averaging 100+ passes per game, do u see Juventus always passing the ball in front of the opposition with no intention of breaking them down??

Imagine if Hazard did not disobey his taktiks, probably we would not be in the Champions League this season..

The system u play in makes or breaks u.

I am not interested in your chainsmoker argument.
As for why he's not asking Pjanic to make 100+ passes per game go and ask Sarri .
With his style he took Napoli to UCL squad with a less talented squad than Chelsea so it was not his tactics that was the problem rather the Shaku-shaku of Hazard and co

Amoto94:

I am not interested in your chainsmoker argument.
As for why he's not asking Pjanic to make 100+ passes per game go and ask Sarri .
With his style he took Napoli to UCL squad with a less talented squad than Chelsea so it was not his tactics that was the problem rather the Shaku-shaku of Hazard and co

Since Hazard and co was the problem last season, why is he not overly obsessed with possession at Juventus? Why is he not asking Pjanic to make 100+ short passes to his defenders and midfielders??

If Sarri was still here, Jorginho would have definitely continued from where he stopped last season.. 100+ passes per game and 80% of those would be back passes.

lordfalcao:
jorginho'had always been a baller.


It was clearly showing as of last season. Fans were not just patient..


Nothing like lampard effect

Jorginho’s recent form has everything to do with Lampard. At the start of the season, Jorginho struggled heavily with the 90 minutes high press/ intense style Lampard initiated, infact he was substituted earlier than usual in some of those early EPL games because he struggled to keep with the pace / intensity of those games.

I was very clear on this thread about it and suggested that Lampard slow things down so his players don’t burn out or become susceptible to injuries considering you don’t have a deep bench in quality. Earlier in the season, Chelsea started with the high press but by the 50th minute the entire team was tired, players could be seen holding their waists or bending on their knees and this caused your team to concede tons of late 2nd half goals.

After the 3rd/4th game, I think Sheffield, Lampard figured I was right , he evened out his intensity/ press and this helped Jorginho tremendously as the adjusted speed/ intensity fits his style. This is buttressed by the impressive way Chelsea finished the Liverpool game and subsequent games.

Finally, he is no longer the center piece of Chelsea’s attack so that removes the burden of being singled out by opponents. Lampard is a quick learner, if that is one thing I have found out about him.

Roland17:


Jorginho’s recent form has everything to do with Lampard. At the start of the season, Jorginho struggled heavily with the 90 minutes high press/ intense style Lampard initiated, infact he was substituted earlier than usual in some of those early EPL games because he struggled to keep with the pace / intensity of those games.

I was very clear on this thread about it and suggested that Lampard slows things down so his players don’t burn out or become susceptible to injuries considering you don’t have a deep bench in quality. During earlier games Chelsea started on the high with the press but by the 50th minute the entire team was tired and players could be seen holding their waists or bending on their knees and this caused your team to concede tons of late 2nd half goals.

After the 3rd/4th game, I think Sheffield, Lampard figured I was right , he evened out his intensity and press and this helped Jorginho tremendously as the adjusted speed/ intensity fits his style. This is buttressed by the impressive way Chelsea finished the Liverpool game and subsequent games.

Finally, he is no longer the center piece of Chelsea’s attack so that removes the burden of being singled out by opponents. Lampard is a quick learner, if that is one thing I have found out about him.

i was surprised when he stopped zonal marking.. other manager would stick to their philosophy

What the hell is wrong with some of you here

I don't get it? Is it that you guys just hate sarri so much, so that you have decided to blind yourself not to see anything good with what he did here?

In this life, one has to be objective and balanced in his view, and also open to re-adoption of ideas lest he becomes unhinged on extremism.
I see a lot of fans here who are usually blind to the truth and when their mis-ideologies are being corrected, rather than eat the humble pie and reassess their stance, they become further arrogant in their stupidity.

What would it take out of you to agree that sarri had faults but a few good things came out of his short stay??

Yes, At first, he was stubborn and rigid in his style of play, but towards the end of the season, you could pick out lots of positives in his system, especially in the Europa league, he gave Hudson odoi and RLC the platform to shine and the consistency in the team. Hudson at 20yrs had the most minutes of playing time compared with other top6 teams
Kante had transformed rapidly technically and jorginho had now adapted to the team fully.

What will it take you to accept the truth
Were we not all here at the end of last season praising all these changes?
So why would we now become obstinate in our views?
Or about hazard, what would it take to say, he was obviously talented but had faults in his gameplay that hindered the efficacy of his play.

donjazet:
Chelsea's attack is now so relentless!!
Wave after wave of attack. Nice

THIS>>>>

BikeMan:
THIS>>>>

I don't understand

donjazet:

I don't understand

Chai! I felt what you said

BikeMan:
Chai! I felt what you said

You can lie eeh

donjazet:

I don't understand

We now attack purposefully unlike what we had under Sarri- 1500 passes, no goal.

In case you couldn't explain what you posted.

Best thing to have happened to my team this year, Sarri out.

BikeMan:
THIS>>>>

Donjazet my guy

E no dey use Twitter, na why.

Sometimes this firmino play ball like its nothing serious to him.

Look at the nonsense he played...instead of whipping that ball home.

i knew losing to newcastle will make this useless team play well today

Allison no dey give VVD clean sheets again?