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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by poik(m): 10:47pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: Matthew 5:48- Be ye perfect, as your Father in heaven is perfect. You cant just sit in one corner and say you wont find one person who is perfect. Why do you think the rapture will be for a select few? God knows them that are His. If perfection were not possible, the Bible wouldnt have said that. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Janosky: 10:50pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
martjay: Your point 2, Do you celebrate Christmas? A well known Kumuyi follower ,says you're an idol worshipper. In a nutshell, you won't make heaven.... Your pastors tell you JWs are anti-Christ,so what's your point? 5). Yes. that's what your own copy of the Bible says. 6). Hear the Truth: Many other Bibles says "the word was a god", "the word was divine" etc. For instance, John1:1,Emphatic Diaglott bible and many others (Google" John1:1 Wikipedia" or "Reno Omokri Trinity article" or Femi Aribisala Trinity article". The popular version of John 1:1 you been hearing since your childhood is distorted. Greek John1:1 reads: ** "In beginning was the word, and the word was with the God (ton theon,) ,and the word was God (theos). Greek theos means 'God, a god'. Greek 'was with' means "facing towards" The word facing towards the God., that's two distinct spirit beings, NOT one being. The word was theos,NOT ton theon the God. Jesus has divine nature, a god or godlike being but he is not 'ton theon' (the God) in John1:1 Jesus says God is a spirit,One being. John4:24 NOT 3 spirits. I have simplified it as much as possible. 7) Adam is the first sinner punished by God, why did God not send him to hellfire? The precedent refutes hellfire claim. 2Thess1:7-9. Jude 1:7, what did everlasting fire do to the wicked nations of Sodom and Gomorrah? JWs dignify Jehovah with modesty in dressing and grooming which we always emphasize @ all times. However, it's improper to impose your personal tastes or preferences upon others. Every student of God's word has a bible trained conscience to discern what is modest and immodest. Hebrews 5:14. 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by grandstar(m): 10:55pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
generationz: You were never fully one of us. If you were, you'll know we pray but not to the worrisome lengths many churches practice it. Why were the disciples asleep when Jesus met them? Because if it was their habit to be praying, they'd all be wide awake or at least some would. In this case, not a single one was awake indicates it was not a standard practice. Why did Jesus berate them? Jesus was soon going to be arrested and carry out the greatest assignment of all time, the ransom sacrifice. That was why he kept a vigil, the word has been so debased today. It wasn't a moment to be sleeping but to be on the watch as the disciples where soon to find out. Prayer isn't the main thing. "Happy is the one hearing the word of God and keeping it" (Luke 11:28). That is what counts most to Jehovah is that we do his will (Read 1 John 5:3) That is what matters to Jehovah (Read Mark 11:32-34). Do you know that Jehovah isn't even a fan of long meaningless prayers, full of repetitions? (Read Matthew 6:7- Jehovah's Witnesses pray. An elder advised me to communicate with Jehovah as much as possible concerning a major problem I have. The way he said it, it would be like every 10 minutes. I suffer from anxiety for instance. He advised that anytime I feel my anxiety rising, I pray. That could mean many times in an hour when I am in a social gathering for instance. So we do pray but we ensure we don't go overboard. And most importantly, we focus most importantly on doing his will which is the greatest proof that we love Jehovah and put faith in him. 2. About the holy spirit The use personification in the Bible is common. For instance, at Proverbs 8 we read: Is not wisdom calling out? Is not discernment raising its voice? 2 On the heights along the road, It takes its position at the crossroads. 3 Next to the gates leading into the city, At the entrances of the doorways, It keeps crying out loudly: Is Wisdom a person that can call out? No. The holy spirit is neither a person either. If he was, what is his name? We know our Creator is Jehovah. We know his son is Jesus, but what is the name of the holy spirit? Isaiah 40:26 probably gives us the best insight into what the holy spirit is: “Lift up your eyes to heaven and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who brings out their army by number; He calls them all by name. Because of his vast dynamic energy and his awe-inspiring power, Not one of them is missing. That vast dynamic energy and awe-inspiring power is the holy spirit. The holy spirit is the most powerful force in the universe. The Egyptians called it "God's finger'. 3. You stated we regurgitate what Charles Taze Russell said is simply not true. The organisation is far ahead of that time. Charles Taze Russell died more than 100 years ago. As Daniel prophesied, the Truth will become more abundant today and it has. In the field, we always back our teachings with the scripture. Your verse on the Bereans is a verse I often open to the householder for them to know the importance of following up whatever I say. Your being one of us does not mean you were ever really one of us. Your parents might have been but you might have always been a skeptic. Each child has to make the Truth is own. I know the son of an elder who is a pastor. I know another elder son who has no interest in religious things. I think he was even baptized. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by malvisguy212: 11:18pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
Janosky: Read Acts 5:1-6 . According to verse 3, who did Ananias lie to ? But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the HOLY SPIRIT and to keep back some of the price of the land? Ananias lied to the Holy spirit. Then in verse 4, who is Ananias accused of laying to? 4 “While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but TO GOD.” Both verses are referring to the same person - Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit who is God. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by malvisguy212: 11:34pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
Janosky:What constitutes the essentials of personality? Usually three things ,a person must possess intelligence, emotions, and will. A thing lacks these, but the Holy Spirit is not a thing because He has intelligence, emotions and will. 1. intelligence. The Spirit knows All things https://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/1%20Corinthians%202.10-11 2.emotion. the spirit can be grieved. https://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/Ephesians%204.30 3. Will. the spirit gives gift to men as He will . https://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/1%20Corinthians%2012.11 The Holy Spirit is associated with the Father and the Son, and placed on the same level as they are. According to Matthew 28:19 , the disciples must baptize in what names? Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. According to John 16:8-11 , what three things does the Holy Spirit do to the non-Christian in the world?. 1. concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me 2. concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you no longer behold Me 3. concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by malvisguy212: 11:47pm On Oct 20, 2019 |
the Jehovah witness cult teaches that the Holy spirit is an active force, if its true then everyone Will be entitled to it, both the save and unsaved. is this not blasphemy ? Simple faith in God and His promises results in our being filled with the Spirit. We may not "feel" full, get goose bumps, be overwhelmed with the sense of peace or His presence, yet we are filled.Our confidence is in God and His promises, not our feelings. 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Bondatt: 6:19am On Oct 21, 2019 |
maiahsaiah:Same with Mormons, so they are not unique in that sense. By the way they do have pre-marital sex more frequently than u think. A lot of judicial committees are set up each year to handle these cases. Mormons too have men who ecclesiastical function for people who engage in fornication. 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Bondatt: 6:23am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Maximus69: Hope you know that coming online to debate with people the watchtower calls apostates is wrongdoing on your part. I've been following you, if you know have nothing to fear, drop ur name and congregation, let's report to your elders your activity online and see if they will give you a pat on the back. If you know that you have any conscience left, you should report yourself to the overseers To Help you. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Bondatt: 6:35am On Oct 21, 2019 |
grandstar: Here it is sir https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php Truth fears no scrutiny. So do your research without fear. 2 Likes |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Tallesty1(m): 6:43am On Oct 21, 2019 |
ngwababe:Without judgement, how will you know who to destroy and who to send into heaven? 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:47am On Oct 21, 2019 |
OkCornel: You are deceived. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by ngwababe(f): 7:17am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Tallesty1: Then the destruction of the sinned soul is hell fire, there is their place. There's nothing like they will cease to exist bro. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Tallesty1(m): 7:20am On Oct 21, 2019 |
ngwababe:What does fire do to things? |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OyinO: 7:28am On Oct 21, 2019 |
All Christians are hypocrites. A Christian is someone who is not themselves on Sundays. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OkCornel(m): 7:33am On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: I am deceived for not believing some JW doctrines OR I am deceived for believing the Awake and Watchtower publications are well researched and written? Which of the deceit sir? |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:03am On Oct 21, 2019 |
OkCornel: For believing the latter, sir. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 8:04am On Oct 21, 2019 |
poik: You're not getting Jesus' comments right Sir! The perfection Jesus meant their is before we're given the visa to everlasting life NOT when we've yet to be judge during the 1,000 years reign of Christ! That's why those who are going to rule with Jesus in heaven have what is called GRACE or UNDESERVED KINDNESS, because there are two stages before anyone can get the everlasting life visa to Paradise. Now Jehovah's Witnesses organization is only preparing the people who will enter into the judgment day! Revelations 20:11-14 It's after this that perfection will be gotten, many people will still fail that final test, that's why the Bible said the born again Christians who are going to rule with Jesus in heaven won't experience that final test! Revelations 20:6 To Jesus anyone still living now or who enters into God's judgment day is still like the dead because it's until Satan is destroyed before anyone living on earth could be pronounced as living! Revelations 20:5 So it's not now that we will become perfect but after the final test, during Christ's 1,000 years reign, only Jehovah's Witnesses organization will be teaching resurrected ones how the new earth will be and how we're going to live peaceably with one another. It's after the 1,000 years uninterrupted teaching about what Jesus laid down that everyone living on earth will be considered perfect. That's why we are telling you people that NONE of all these heaven heaven religion can help you to get all these facts! For further explanation, copy all what i've typed and meet Jehovah's Witnesses in your area to expatiate more on this topic of PERFECTION! God bless you! |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 8:12am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Bondatt: You're a funny clown Sir! Perhaps you don't know, let me tell you that this is faceless social media and everyone is typing what they know/feel about religion. So expressing one's faith facelessly is no crime in my organization Sir! If you want to join Jehovah's Witnesses, the door is still open and if you're not interested there is no problem. None of all the commentators on Nairaland will give you their personal information, so why should i give you mine! What we're saying here is while all other religious groups are hiding undercover Jehovah's Witnesses are shining the light, that's why whatever any of Jehovah's Witnesses say here is not different from what you'll get from my brothers throughout the earth! Instead of mentioning your religion when talking about premarital sex, you are talking about Mormons. That's the sign that your religion is hiding undercover! 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OkCornel(m): 8:13am On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Ah, so those publications are complete falsehoods and fraud isn’t it? Like 99% of its contents are falsehood right? |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by TemmyT002(m): 8:13am On Oct 21, 2019 |
potent5: Ogbeni, I am not a Jehovah's Witness member jare 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 8:22am On Oct 21, 2019 |
OkCornel: You're deceived because you didn't join them in castigating Jehovah's Witnesses even when you're seeing all of them trying to do so! Never mind! Let them continue to sin against God's holy spirit. If you condemn Jehovah's Witnesses for not knowing much about us, it's the same as sinning against the son of man. But after you've gotten some facts and you're now seeing the FRUIT these people are bearing throughout the earth, if you now go back to join those who haven't gotten any idea about what FRUIT we should observe to identify Christians, then such a person is sinning against that spirit producing those fruits. It's like saying "that spirit is false!" when you know that what it's producing in the midst of these people is FINE {Matthew 7:15-20} and you're also aware that such fruit can't be found elsewhere! Mark 3:29 compared to Isaiah 5:20 God bless you! 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by TemmyT002(m): 8:23am On Oct 21, 2019 |
OyinO: Lol Rather, all humans are hypocrites 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by potent5(m): 8:38am On Oct 21, 2019 |
TemmyT002:Nwokem, I don't care whether you belong to the Sat Kuru Maharaj sect or O. O. Olumba. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by tomju(m): 8:55am On Oct 21, 2019 |
generationz: ofcourse it could well be "the river clap his hands or her hands"...poetic license and all of that. Now the Holy spirit is not a person! Its a power! A force! |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:56am On Oct 21, 2019 |
OkCornel: Will you be happy to drink a cup of water that has 1% poison? |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by TemmyT002(m): 8:56am On Oct 21, 2019 |
potent5: Na you sabi o Why you con dey quote me na |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 9:07am On Oct 21, 2019 |
potent5: @bolded! Well Jehovah's Witnesses do care! That's why we keep coming to visit you, perhaps we can settle the differences in our beliefs or better still understand how to relate with you, We can relate as family ~ if we happens to come from the same tribe or family. We can relate as colleagues ~ if we do the same kind of business/trade. We can relate as spiritual family ~ if we share the same faith. We need to relate with our neighbors somehow, that's why we MUST care! |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Bondatt: 9:25am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Maximus69: I'm really laughing you .better seek spiritual help from the overseers, you are consuming apostate material. I've simply told you the truth. You are a typical hypocrite coming online to do exactly what your organization warns against. Tomorrow you climb platform to read to people not to do exactly what you're doing. I don't know how you can live with yourself. God will expose you soon. Plus we'll soon expose you, watch your back. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Bondatt: 9:45am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Maximus69: Mr Babatunde Aregbesola, you'll soon get a call from your congregation elders when they receive a letter from the branch. Keep your arguments and rebuttals coming.. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 9:53am On Oct 21, 2019 |
Bondatt: Sorry Sir! You missed the target. Try harder! 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by potent5(m): 9:56am On Oct 21, 2019 |
TemmyT002:Just to let you know. |
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