Minemrys:

you are blackspider ehn? Alright.

Blackspider:
If you don't know the context of the conversation, I advice you don't fool yourself.

Spider-Man has never sold more than batman and Superman combined all the time. It happened once in 2014 and from 2015 spiderman merchandise has been receiving L from Batman.

Blackspider:

It is quite fascinating that you took the words of a Reddit user seriously just because it suited your agenda.

First of, this is the greatest piece of trash I have ever seen and I mean it. The first screenshot is the actual profits deadline reported Aquaman made which is less than the dead ass Reddit user posted.

Secondly, the second screenshot shows the actual profits Wonder Woman made which of course was higher than what the Reddit user reported again.

Thirdly, the third screenshot indicates how much of a profit age of Ultron made which of course was higher than what the Reddit user reported.

Fourthly, the fourth screenshot indicates how much of a profit black panther made which of course was higher than what the Reddit user reported.

With all that said, you want me to take this your post seriously?

Let it also be known that each screenshot provided evidence of DVD and Blu-ray sales, Pay tvt and network TV. Merchandise sales were excluded. Now tell me how would you expect joker which hasn't finished its theatrical run, does have any DVD and Blu-ray sales, rentals etc to be up of the list. When everything is said and done, joker is more likely to be the MOST PROFITABLE COMIC BOOK MOVIE IN TERMS OF BUDGET TO BOX OFFICE.

Would it be the most profitable comic book movie of all time when everything is added? HIGHLY UNLIKELY, but it would definitely be in the range of infinity war and black panther (meaning 2nd, 3rd or 4th most profitable).

Note: Captain Marvel and Endgame was excluded because they haven't added everything up but the Reddit user must be God to know how big a profit it made.

P.S, Next time try giving reports from a respectable source not some Reddit user analysis

Cc: Thekingishere, Pu7pl3, Vic2Ree, hulk616

TheKingIsHere:


All what you posted from reddit still buttressed all my points as the argument is on profitability and ROI which vic2ree brought in. It is funny you want to now deviate from the point of argument.

From the list, we can see Endgame is nowhere in the list when it comes to Return on Investment (ROI) after the so called huge profit.

And point of correction, according to deadline, Endgame's profit is $650m.

So, if after all this profit, the movie is not amongst the most profitable or amongst CBM with high ROI. So, what's the essence?

Joker, after deduction and everything will make the same profit as endgame if not more, depending on the final outcome.

In terms of profitability, Joker is number 1.

In terms on ROI, Joker at the end of its run, will beat all these marvel movies listed.

To get profitability,

Use the budget (Joker)- $70m.... against the total amount made - $930m (assuming it ends its final run at that amount)

$930m/$70m = x13.28

Joker will give you a profitability multiplication of x13.28


Endgame on the other hand, budget $356m against final outcome of $2.8bn

$2.8bn/$356m = x8

Endgame profitability is x8 while joker is x13.28


Returned of investment (ROI) is the net profit ÷ total amount invested (budget+PA+Distribution)

Jokers net profit is going to be $500m or more but I will leave it at $500m.

Its total production budget is $70m..assuming the spend like $130m on ad, PA and distribution. This will make total amount invested to be $200m

ROI (Joker) - $500m ÷ $200m =2.5


Endgame net profit is $650m while its production budget is $356m + $250m for Ad, distribution and marketing giving a total investment cost of $606m

Therefore,

ROI (Endgame) - $650m÷ $606m= 1.07

Even if I increase its profit to $750m, the ROI will be 1.2 which is nowhere near Joker's 2.5 return on investment.


That's why a low dark Phoenix film that flopped eroded everything that endgame made because the profitability is very low and the roi is as good as nothing.

Even Marvel's CFO (Chief finance officer) stated it clearly that marvel/Disney did not make as more profit as people think.

You can read her statement via https://
cosmicbook.news. /avengers-endgame-not-big-success-disney?amp

You can also check google for more of this

So, as it stands

Joker is most profitable and has higher ROI in respect to CBM.

That's why I said and still maintain thatDC is SUPERIOR


Source for calculation is investopedia

Etrigan:
(inquisitive gaze)


Hulk616 is to blame, nobody cares so much about Marvel here.

TheKingIsHere:


IUWE is blackspider .

Honestly, philfearon just disappeared. He shows up once in a while though.

He was the DC version of hulk616

pu7pl3:


Philfearon is married with 2 kids...iuwe is Blackspider/Etrigan

Etrigan:
Philfearon is nothing like hulk616, neither is iuwe

XxSabrinaxX:

I didn't even know you were iuwe. . Makes sense now.

Every single person both here and in the Marvel thread are trolls. Let's not even pretend

philfearon:

Abeg o...

philfearon:

Thank you jare....

pu7pl3:


[s]which DCEU is a bit wobbly DC has been and is currently breaking bounds and trying new things while Marvel has been rinsing and repeating and still not able to make gains from the tired trope[/s]

Blackspider:
Lol, that was the most clumsy excuse ever. It doesn't matter when but how well a comic book character relates to his consumers. There are some characters in the marvel comics that predates their DC counterpart but isn't as iconic. Vice versa. Or do you mean that since Espanyol FC of Spain should be more iconic than Real Madrid since they predates them by 2 years?


Spider-Man only outsold Batman and Superman combined once and he hasn't done it again. This wasn't because of one more day debacle or Nolan trilogy, it was more of consumers preference.

phr0nesis:
Thekingishere and blackspider keep spreading the gospel. Mehn you just made this thread inconvenient for marvel fans

Etrigan:
I don't know why my blackspider account got banned

Etrigan:
MCU fanboys 9ja branch

Etrigan:
iuwe is a troll but blackspider/etrigan is more enlightened and loves exciting arguments. I am not a troll (winks)

TheKingIsHere:

philfearon:

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. Jeez.
I am not married o. Abeg.

pu7pl3:

XxSabrinaxX:

I didn't even know you were iuwe. . Makes sense now.

Every single person both here and in the Marvel thread are trolls. Let's not even pretend

Minemrys:

he'll deny it.

pu7pl3:


which DCEU is a bit wobbly DC has been and is currently breaking bounds and trying new things while Marvel has been rinsing and repeating and still not able to make gains from the tired trope

hulk616:
thank you for this information

Blackspider was beaten today
K.O blackspider

hulk616:
arguments you don't win and also crying away.

Minemrys:

he'll deny it.

I will not deny or agree to anything

hulk616:
i m not a troll

hulk616:
i m only better than iuwe (who doesnt exist again )

XxSabrinaxX:

You need help. And am sorry to say but you make Marvel fans on NL look dumb sometimes. It's just an observation.

Etrigan:
I will not deny or agree to anything

XxSabrinaxX:

If you are not a troll then you need help. And am sorry to say but you make Marvel fans on NL look dumb sometimes. It's just an observation.

XxSabrinaxX:

If you are not a troll then you need help. And am sorry to say but you make Marvel fans on NL look dumb sometimes. It's just an observation.