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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nairalandankrah: 2:29pm On Oct 27, 2019
safarigirl:


Like I said, we will always find someone new. After all, in January, nobody was talking about Joe Aribo as much as we were talking about Tammy and Eze, 9 months later, na Aribo don get two caps and two goals. I wonder who Aribo bribed to get his own call up. Ati lo, ati de. No time to mourn nonsense.
Always on point

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 2:59pm On Oct 27, 2019
Ola aina as a winger in a 4-4-2 formation

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:01pm On Oct 27, 2019
It was everywhere na. I don’t trust the selections in general.

safarigirl:
Has anyone seen the post about the whole dropping of a player for DSS' son?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:08pm On Oct 27, 2019
Barryseal:

Oga, just hear yourself. You're claiming Eze is holding out to play for Nigeria because of the endorsements he could get from commercial sponsorship. That's a very childish way to analyze the situation, to be honest.
Do you know Aubemeyang is top 25 most marketable ATHLETE with a good cross over appeal ratings. Incase you don't know, this guy plays for Gabon. Can you locate Gabon on the atlas if I challenged you?
Mohammed Salah's endorsement with Pepsi, Vodafone and the likes runs into $70 annually.
Wilfred Zaha is doing well with his many fashion endsorments.
Your inclination about Eze's international future is rank amateur. You're better off not saying anything than coming up with waffle like this, as if you're preaching to primary school pupils.

This is a faceless forum and why do you feel the need to MISREPRESENT, MISLEAD, MANIPULATE, and TELL BLATANT LIES.

First of all where did l say specifically as you have said in the bold. If you cannot show the screen shot of my post. You are a blatant shameless liar.

Secondly please don't use conjecture and presumption to deduce this is what I am implying and or mean. That's also untruthful.

There are too many people here who are supposedly educated yet find it easy to conjure up facts from nothing or make claims about other contributors.

To date not one person on this thread has been able to substantiate one single allegation claim against me. They all go EVASIVE.

You lack knowledge and understanding.

This particular discourse emanated in entirety from the erroneous proposition presented by some here. That Eze playing for Nigeria will add value to him and give his career a boost. Which in itself has come from unsubstantiated news reports that Eze haa declined an invitation and or is now having a rethink .

It is that context my responses are made possibly prematurely.

But moving on to the new subject matter you have raised related but not the same.

First of all l used players in the same age range who are very progressive in thier careers.

That's why l used Rashford and Alexander.

You deviate from the substance you are comparing Salah a Liverpool player who is arguably one of the best players in Africa currently a player nominated for the Ballon Dor. Is that how you do comparison?

But let's continue on this trajectory nonetheless. Unfortunately you have presented an opinion not substantive fact. As a consequence questions are raised that you will need to be answered. Otherwise we will be building the current trajectory of this discourse on spurious fallacy.


How much did Aubmeyang make in commercial market based endorsements last year

You claim that Salah made $70 l presume million last year. Kindly substantiate please

Wilfred Zaha l know well now tell me the value of his commercial endorsements please

Before we can progress please answer the questions above factually, but not on spurious fallacy but on substantiated facts please. He

Just for the record and context below screen shot of two-fold my posts that instituted the initial subject.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nairalandankrah: 3:24pm On Oct 27, 2019
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 3:25pm On Oct 27, 2019
nairalandankrah:
Men and brethren..victor osimhen is injured..will miss afcon qualifiers

Knowing Rohr, Onuachu may start instead. Something I am not really looking forward to
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 3:34pm On Oct 27, 2019
Enyimba and Rangers have CAFCC games today by 5 and 4pm respectively.
Rangers face ASCK of Lome in Togo, while Enyimba will battle TS Galaxy of South Africa in Aba.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by peterd53(m): 3:38pm On Oct 27, 2019
Okereke with a goal

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 3:39pm On Oct 27, 2019
Okereke is back
He just equalized for his club
1-1 now against Standard liege

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 3:41pm On Oct 27, 2019
darkelf:


Knowing Rohr, Onuachu may start instead. Something I am not really looking forward to
it would be better if he plays a 4-3-3 with a false nine(musa). No be must to play a top striker undecided

Gk

Aina. Ekong. Ajayi. Collins.

Ndidi.
Aribo. Iwobi.

Chukwueze. Musa. Kalu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:43pm On Oct 27, 2019
darkelf:


Knowing Rohr, Onuachu may start instead. Something I am not really looking forward to

He might do well if he starts

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:44pm On Oct 27, 2019
And okereke is back, he scores grin

A dip in form doesnt make someone bad

5 goals in 10 games is impressive

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:44pm On Oct 27, 2019
Okereke back with a bang grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by iSlayer: 3:45pm On Oct 27, 2019
Okereke has done that thing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:45pm On Oct 27, 2019
Yas grin
andrew444:
And okereke is back, he scores grin

A dip in form doesnt make someone bad

5 goals in 10 games is impressive

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:45pm On Oct 27, 2019
DrKlever:
it would be better if he plays a 4-3-3 with a false nine(musa). No be must to play a top striker undecided

Gk

Aina. Ekong. Ajayi. Collins.

Ndidi.
Aribo. Iwobi.

Chukwueze. Musa. Kalu.


Musa false 9?

Shebi na here we dey

Onauchu will start
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 3:49pm On Oct 27, 2019
My child was dropped from U-17 W’Cup for DSS boss’ son –Oduko

England-based football scout, Ese Udoko, in this interview with KELVIN EKERETE alleges that his son, Ogaga, was unjustly dropped from the Golden Eaglets squad at the ongoing Brazil 2019 U-17 World Cup for Abba Abichi, son of the Director-General, Department of State Service, Bichi Magaji, after helping the team qualify for the World Cup.

Is it true that your son Ogaga Oduko was dropped for Abba Bichi, son of the DSS boss, Bichi Magaji?

It is true. My son Ogaga was substituted for Bichi Magaji’s son, Abba Bichi, and there is no other way we can point otherwise. Those coaches are the ones destroying Nigerian football. I believe the officials from the top are corrupt as well. It is affecting Nigerian football. The less-privileged kids cannot genuinely represent their country without having a godfather.


But there is a claim that you are just an agent to Ogaga and not his father…

(Cuts in) Ogaga is my adopted son. He lost both parents at the age of 10. I came to Nigeria to do my scouting programme in 2016 for less-privileged talented kids across four states in Nigeria. The final selection was held in Lagos. He borrowed money to come and there I spotted him. He told me his story and I have been taking care of him in my academy since then, along with his two siblings.

How long was your son in the U-17 camp?

I took him for the U-17 trials and he passed. He has been with the team for a long time. He went with them to Tanzania (U-17 AFCON, qualifiers for the World Cup). He was the one that lost the last penalty in the semi-final 10-9 defeat to Guinea in Tanzania. They refused to feature him in the third-place game because of that and the Eaglets lost the match. He is an attacking midfielder, better than what they have in that midfield, but the coaches told me that they would convert him to left-back, as they don’t have one. And that is the only way he can make the team. I told my son to adapt and because of his talent, he adapted and since then he has been with the U-17.

Do you think he was dropped because he wasn’t good enough?

Not at all. When Ogaga was with the national team, he worked hard and merited it. I was about bringing him to the United Kingdom, but I had not finalised the adoption process then. After the process, I felt that he should take a shot at the national team and that will qualify him to play in England. And also, the other players can see that hard work and dedication with your talent can take you to the top. He has been with the team until they came back from Tanzania. During their two months break. I asked for his passport, so he can apply for UK visa, as Arsenal wanted to see him. I told the coach, but they refused to give me his passport. The excuse was that they don’t want to lose him. They felt that if he joined a club in England, he would not want to come back and play for the national team. The boy was angry but I encouraged him to bear it.

Is there evidence that he was dropped directly for Bichi?Ogaga

He traveled to Turkey for the tournament before travelling to Brazil with the team, but at the last minute he was dropped and was replaced with a player I now believe is the son of the head of security service in Nigeria because the NFF wanted to avoid corruption charges. So, they have to curry the head of security by bringing his son and other officials’ children and dropping talented players who don’t have any backing. I did not know the politics that was played, because I was not there. I know that boy was nowhere before, and suddenly at the last minute he replaced a regular player.



Some are of the opinion that Ogaga was dropped because he wasn’t a regular in Manu Garba’s squad…

My boy is a regular, the only match he did not play (in Tanzania) they lost. There is no way you can tell me that they have another excuse for dropping a regular player. I chatted with the coaches and their excuse was that it is a group decision. I know other players were dropped as well. I felt for my boy and the others, but I need to point this injustice out. It has been going on in the national team camp for too long. He has been with the team for months. Ogaga was in Tanzania and Turkey. He also made the final list of 25 to Brazil.

Did anyone at any point request for money from you to include Ogaga in the Eaglets’ U-17 World Cup squad?


They requested for money before they went to Tanzania. I refused to give anything. I told them, ‘let his talent make way for him.’ After using the boy to qualify, they dropped him without thinking. I know this situation might make my relationship with some Nigeria Football Federation members dented. I have set up a youth league currently running in Nigeria in four states.

Having gone through this experience, would you still allow Ogaga play for Nigeria in the future?

This is what I’m fighting for. I want a situation where talented players in Nigeria can represent their country on merit. I have a mission to raise players with their right ages for the national team to win the 2020 World Cup. This is a big challenge for me moving forward with the mandate. I will still allow him play for Nigeria. These people will not be there forever.

What does the future hold for Ogaga now?

He will be coming for trials with a Premier League club I don’t want to reveal now. Arsenal will still have their eyes on him. They were actually coming to watch him in BraziL. He would have been drafted straight away into their U-19 squad if he had played at the world Cup. A Premier League club is waiting for Ogagga already, but they want me to bring him to the UK first.

How can this issue of dropping better qualified players for more influential players be addressed?

The youth football structure needs to be well organised. The country should be able to watch young players from the age of 15. This is why I am running a youth league in Nigeria. Once coaches make their 25-man list, the regular players selected initially should not be dropped; rather the coaches should adjust a player who is not performing well to the bench. A regular player can only be dropped if they commit a serious offence. When a regular player is omitted from the team rather than dropping them to the bench, it should be questioned and looked into by independent professionals, rather than the officials.

https://punchng.com/my-child-was-dropped-from-u-17-wcup-for-dss-boss-son-oduko/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sportilitica: 4:02pm On Oct 27, 2019
M7even:
My child was dropped from U-17 W’Cup for DSS boss’ son –Oduko

England-based football scout, Ese Udoko, in this interview with KELVIN EKERETE alleges that his son, Ogaga, was unjustly dropped from the Golden Eaglets squad at the ongoing Brazil 2019 U-17 World Cup for Abba Abichi, son of the Director-General, Department of State Service, Bichi Magaji, after helping the team qualify for the World Cup.

Is it true that your son Ogaga Oduko was dropped for Abba Bichi, son of the DSS boss, Bichi Magaji?

It is true. My son Ogaga was substituted for Bichi Magaji’s son, Abba Bichi, and there is no other way we can point otherwise. Those coaches are the ones destroying Nigerian football. I believe the officials from the top are corrupt as well. It is affecting Nigerian football. The less-privileged kids cannot genuinely represent their country without having a godfather.


But there is a claim that you are just an agent to Ogaga and not his father…

(Cuts in) Ogaga is my adopted son. He lost both parents at the age of 10. I came to Nigeria to do my scouting programme in 2016 for less-privileged talented kids across four states in Nigeria. The final selection was held in Lagos. He borrowed money to come and there I spotted him. He told me his story and I have been taking care of him in my academy since then, along with his two siblings.

How long was your son in the U-17 camp?

I took him for the U-17 trials and he passed. He has been with the team for a long time. He went with them to Tanzania (U-17 AFCON, qualifiers for the World Cup). He was the one that lost the last penalty in the semi-final 10-9 defeat to Guinea in Tanzania. They refused to feature him in the third-place game because of that and the Eaglets lost the match. He is an attacking midfielder, better than what they have in that midfield, but the coaches told me that they would convert him to left-back, as they don’t have one. And that is the only way he can make the team. I told my son to adapt and because of his talent, he adapted and since then he has been with the U-17.

Do you think he was dropped because he wasn’t good enough?

Not at all. When Ogaga was with the national team, he worked hard and merited it. I was about bringing him to the United Kingdom, but I had not finalised the adoption process then. After the process, I felt that he should take a shot at the national team and that will qualify him to play in England. And also, the other players can see that hard work and dedication with your talent can take you to the top. He has been with the team until they came back from Tanzania. During their two months break. I asked for his passport, so he can apply for UK visa, as Arsenal wanted to see him. I told the coach, but they refused to give me his passport. The excuse was that they don’t want to lose him. They felt that if he joined a club in England, he would not want to come back and play for the national team. The boy was angry but I encouraged him to bear it.

Is there evidence that he was dropped directly for Bichi?
How do we verify this? Who has seen his son play? Is he better than those taken. If what he says is true then our football is under threat

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 4:04pm On Oct 27, 2019
andrew444:
And okereke is back, he scores grin

A dip in form doesnt make someone bad

5 goals in 10 games is impressive

Good and I hope he continues

I don't want the average players we currently have to get too comfortable thinking Super Eagles is their birthright

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 4:06pm On Oct 27, 2019
The highlights from yesterday's game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CXWsNUfp3Q
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:13pm On Oct 27, 2019
darkelf:


Good and I hope he continues

I don't want the average players we currently have to get too comfortable thinking Super Eagles is their birthright

lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:18pm On Oct 27, 2019
Aribo starts for Rangers

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:24pm On Oct 27, 2019
Ebere Eze has been on our lips. He could have easily got a competitive call up long ago considering we've had only Iwobi as AM, when Mikel was observing his sabbatical from SE. There was no better AM out there. We cried Eze Eze.. today he is even perfoming better than then. He was devoted to Nigeria, and there is absolutely nothing wrong if he has second thoughts for whatever reason whether sensible or not. He is human to have second thoughts.

edi287:

You mean for a kick about that didn't mean much?
When both Nwakali brothers were invited, Eze was doing better. We argued this extensively here.
Nothing wrong in feeling the way you do. Unlike Tammy, I won't blame Eze that much(still disappointed) provided he pledged to us but we were inviting players who didn't deserve to get invited ahead of him as at that time.
Anyhow Na for Rohr to play 2 DM and a CM when Iwobi is not so no worries...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 4:28pm On Oct 27, 2019
andrew444:


Musa false 9?

Shebi na here we dey

Onauchu will start
because you know Rohr very well or because you feel it's better to start Onauchu?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:31pm On Oct 27, 2019
DrKlever:
because you know Rohr very well or because you feel it's better to start Onauchu?

Its not better to start with onauchu bro

But at times you should know your coach well and be truthful to your self, how many times have musa started as false 9 under rohr?

Even when ighalo was injured during the start of the afcon, do you know how many of you suggested musa as false 9? did any even happened ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:34pm On Oct 27, 2019
Watching Daniel Akpeyi play the sundowns and even the commentators are talking about his improved body language.

The guy is sending 50 yard dimes to Billiat like they are back passes. We must take advantage of this new found form.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 4:35pm On Oct 27, 2019
andrew444:


Its not better to start with onauchu bro

But at times you should know your coach well and be truthful to your self, how many times have musa started as false 9 under rohr?

Even when ighalo was injured during the start of the afcon, do you know how many of you suggested musa as false 9? did any even happened ?

lol that's true bro. Rohr doesn't like experiments. My guy rigid no be small
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:35pm On Oct 27, 2019
This crystal palace game go hard arsenal, norwich might beat man u or draw, liverpool will beat tottenham, my prediction thou
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:36pm On Oct 27, 2019
DrKlever:
lol that's true bro. Rohr doesn't like experiments. My guy rigid no be small

You self know the matter
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:40pm On Oct 27, 2019
One talent can make a big difference in a team. We have all seen the impact of Aribo in SE. Aribo was in League one just last season. He was never wanted by England. If he were playing in the EPL with interest from England, he would have had a tough decision to make like the other players. These players are individuals and they cannot handle the pressure the same way. But one thing remains common with them, they are more open to playing for us when age is not on their side and things are not looking great in their career. It's a day to day decision they have to make just like we all here have personal decision to make. It's not about patriotism. I've spoken about this many times.

komekn:


This is the hypocrisy with the NFF, why wait for a player to blow.

Dominic Iorfa had already blown when he committed to the SE. A player that was wanted by several EPL clubs but loyalty to former manager Kenneth and Wolves made him reject those offers.

After the politics of football seen him frozen out of Wolves. He failed to sign with Mendes as some have spuriously speculated.

Well where is he close to the top of the Championship, where all the 5 teams at the top section are divided by just three points.

But the question is not which league you are playing in but what are you doing there. Are you outstanding for club and league and consistent with too perfomances❓

What's the general opinion. See below

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:43pm On Oct 27, 2019
nothing wrong with giving him another chance.. he is performing..
if he come backs and gives us the same thing, it would mean he is not just it for international assignments.

BascoVanVeli:
Watching Daniel Akpeyi play the sundowns and even the commentators are talking about his improved body language.

The guy is sending 50 yard dimes to Billiat like they are back passes. We must take advantage of this new found form.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 4:47pm On Oct 27, 2019
Akpeyi with a clean sheet against sundowns..
Sundowns 0-2 chiefs

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