Humility017:


Lol...many of this Nigerians don't know that if this country is to make progress and develop further and even better...
we will surely need the input of Nigerians in diaspora...either born or raised there....

we need folks who are exposed and we'll groomed in cultured settings and as well maximize it with the local product or should I use content or rather home groomed manpower resources.....

only a man with limited thinking will dish one for the other...a wise man will rather maximize both for growth...

so what's wrong in doing same when it comes to football

Daniel Jinadu declared for Nigeria did anybody beg him? Adrian Akande declared for Nigeria did any body beg him?

Those you have been begging how many have you been able to convince

You think being exposed and open minded means licking foreign born asses, this your comment reeks of low self esteem

andrew444:


The US is a proud nation but not when it comes to football sir

I am speaking of football oo, am not speaking of others things bro, dont speak about the power of the US passport when it comes to football

A player will be proud to play football for the brazillian national team that the US, but when it comes to others things almost all will be proud to hold the US passport

Bros US no get level when it comes to football

8 Oct, 2019

ESPN


"When I thought of football when I was younger, it was always Ajax or the Dutch team," Dest said in an interview with U.S. club teammateAlex Mendez, published on the Ajax website.

"Never the U.S. But I haven't been approached by the Dutch team."

Asked whether not being contacted by the Netherlands had been a factor in his decision, he added: "Maybe."

Dest grew up in the Netherlands to a Dutch mother and American father. However, Dutch has always been his first language and Dest said it was only when he visited the U.S. that he began to embrace his American heritage.

"My father is from Brooklyn, but we spoke Dutch at home," Dest said. "Actually, until a few years ago, my English was very poor.

"I wasn't thinking of my American roots at all until I went to play in an American youth team. From that moment, my English improved, and I started to feel more American.

"I realised that: 'Hey, this is my nationality, too.' Now I think it's great to be an American as well. It's an asset and as well. The U.S. passport is one of the best in the world."


Serginho Dest

Eartquake1:


Daniel Jinadu declared for Nigeria did anybody beg him? Adrian Akande declared for Nigeria did any body beg him?

Those you have been begging how many have you been able to convince

You think being exposed and open minded means licking foreign born asses, this your comment reeks of low self esteem

you see why your thinking is flawed...
you barely think and consider other variables....
your approach amount to throwing away a baby with the bath water....

chrisooblog:
i disagree! these players have added distinct value to our team and made us better. how many local based players have broken into the super eagles all these years and made a long lasting impact? mikel basically had no competition throughout his stay in the national team but iwobi, aribo and potentially ebere's addition has our midfield now looking half decent.

like tbaba rightly said if countries that have better structures and talents are not shy to go for foreign born players that will add value to their team why should we feel ashamed to approach nigerian born players?

Italy in 2006 used camonaresi an argentine when they won the world cup. spain used senna a brazilian when they won euro 2008.

hell even cameroon used equitorial guinean lauren when they won their afcon titles in 2000 and 2002

Marcos senna was not good enough for the brazil team so he had to try his luck with spain at the age of 29

The Azzurri first showed interest in Camoranesi so he had not choice than to play for them as they are also a great footballing nation

Jorginho is playing for italy because there was no call up from brazil, if jorginho had been patient enough he should be in the brazil team now

What you and I just said is different from begging a player.

You have the same arguments with the same points again and again. What's it sef!

Actually some may miss the hidden message in my post. The USA-Holland scenario can be likened along prestige lines to Nigeria-England scenario.

Holland is a bigger team in football than USA. Fact.
Dutch players command great value in the market today. Fact.
Dutch NT players are very marketable too. Another fact.

USA obviously has value especially with interest and support from their American companies but is not a bigger or better football nation than Holland. Not even close.

Plus Dest could easily be starting for Holland over Dumfries. Or at the very worst be in with a shout of some game time while he battles Dumfries for the right to be #1 RB for the Oranje.

Yet inspite of all these... Dest chose USA. The nation of his Dad who is Surinamese-American.

#Selah


In the end... It is all a choice. In Dest's case, he went for the less fanciful option in USA and he feels good about it and a starting place is an absolute guarantee for him.



I await Ebere Eze's final decision. Go for England, obviously the more attractive option and battle it out with Maddison, Mount, Barkley, Alli and Grealish. Or pick Nigeria, a less attractive option but with guarantee of playing time as only Iwobi is your real natural competition.


In the end... It is all a choice but like Dest, let their choices be genuine and not guided by where they are at the moment in their club careers.
Let them not use the mentality of picking us when they are at Wycombe and picking England when at Chelsea. Irrespective of what their club statuses are, let their choices be their real choices.

Dest is an Ajax starter and that is a ticket to NT football for Holland but the lad was not swayed. He wanted USA all along especially as he grew more fond of his American roots. This is a lesson.

Toylove:

Yeah
I saw your post .
That's to show it's not a Nigeria thingy......It's something general and normal

Humility017:


8 Oct, 2019

ESPN


"When I thought of football when I was younger, it was always Ajax or the Dutch team," Dest said in an interview with U.S. club teammateAlex Mendez, published on the Ajax website.

"Never the U.S. But I haven't been approached by the Dutch team."

Asked whether not being contacted by the Netherlands had been a factor in his decision, he added: "Maybe."

Dest grew up in the Netherlands to a Dutch mother and American father. However, Dutch has always been his first language and Dest said it was only when he visited the U.S. that he began to embrace his American heritage.

"My father is from Brooklyn, but we spoke Dutch at home," Dest said. "Actually, until a few years ago, my English was very poor.

"I wasn't thinking of my American roots at all until I went to play in an American youth team. From that moment, my English improved, and I started to feel more American.

"I realised that: 'Hey, this is my nationality, too.' Now I think it's great to be an American as well. It's an asset and as well. T[b]he U.S. passport is one of the best in the world." [/b]


Serginho Dest

What does the bolded got to do with football? (The US passport is one of the best in the world)

Because the USA passport is one of the best in the world , does that making their national team one of the best in the world?

The guy father is american so he is also american, but i can bet that he cant make the dutch team at the moment thats why he decided to play for the US

Not so fast. Dest will only have Dumfries to compete with had he chosen Holland and several reports out of holland affirm he is a much better RB than Dumfries. Inspite of this... Dest chose the lesser option in USA. His fatherland.

In all, it is a choice. Not everyone will choose like Dest.

andrew444:


What does the bolded got to do with football?

Because the USA passport is one of the best in the world , does that making their national team one of the best in the world?

The guy father is american so he is also american, but i can bet that he cant make the dutch team at the moment thats why he decided to play for the US

TheSuperNerd:
Actually some may miss the hidden message in my post. The USA-Holland scenario can be likened along prestige lines to Nigeria-England scenario.

Holland is bigger team in football than USA. Fact.
Dutch players command great value in the market today. Fact.
Dutch NT players are very marketable too. Another fact.

USA obviously has value especially for their American companies but is no bigger or better football nation than Hollamd. Not even close.

Plus Dest could easily be starting for Holland over Dumfries. Or at the very worst be in with a shout of some game time while he battles Dumfries for the right to be #1 RB for the Oranje.

Yet inspite of all these... Dest chose USA. The nation of his Dad who is Surinamese-American.

#Selah


In the end... It is all a choice. In Dest's case, he went for the less fanciful option in USA and he feels good about it and a starting place is an absolute guarantee for him.



I await Ebere Eze's final decision. Go for England, obviously the more attractive option and battle it out with Maddison, Mount, Barkley, Alli and Grealish. Or pick Nigeria, a less attractive option but with guarantee of playing time as only Iwobi is your real natural competition.


In the end... It is all a choice but like Dest, let their choices be genuine and not guided by where they are at the moment in their club careers.
Let them not use the mentality of picking us when they are at Wycombe and picking England when at Chelsea. Irrespective of what their club statuses are, let their choices be their real choices.

Dest is an Ajax starter and that is a ticket to NT football for Holland but the lad was not swayed. He wanted USA all along especially as he grew more fond of his American roots. This is a lesson.

so much wisdom in this epistle...thank you

can you mention a particular player who turned us down by saying he doesnt want to play for us but his country of birth and afterwards the nff and rohr kept pushing to convince him?

tammy abraham never shut the door to play for nigeria and left his options open but it was obvious he was leaning towards the 3 lions. tomori had an agreement to change allegiance to us after the euro u21s and securing his club future because he never thought that he will be a starter in the london based club. everything changed immediately he started playing for chelsea after luiz departure coupled with rudiger's injury.

billing was contacted even when he was huddlesfield town then in the epl and he made it known he have the ambition to turn out for denmark and was never contacted again. iwobi's discussion with his few weeks ago was personal and not engineered by the nff or rohr.

torunarigha at first contact with rohr made it known to the german that he wants to play for the german national team and since then rohr have not reached out to him ever since, also was the same issue with akpoguma.

the likes of uduokhai and eze still left their options open so i see no reason why the football house and rohr should shut the door on them when they are yet to decide. lookman and ehizibue once turned us down but of late have contacted the nff that they re willing to change allegiance to 9ja, the same with ojo and uduokhai but if you were to be rohr or the nff boss you will shun them just because they didnt decide on time

Eartquake1:


Trying to convince a player who has already made his CHOICE to rescind his decision is begging

andrew444:


What does the bolded got to do with football? (The US passport is one of the best in the world)

Because the USA passport is one of the best in the world , does that making their national team one of the best in the world?

The guy father is american so he is also american, but i can bet that he cant make the dutch team at the moment thats why he decided to play for the US

for Dest to make mention of it...it means he considers it too while thinking on both nations.

you think this players only considers football when making this final choice.... didn't you read the huddersfied guy reason why he won't have opt for Nigeria...because he doesn't feel it, he don't even know how the country look like unlike the Anglo Nigerians... this dudes are already feeling and living Nigeria while I'm the UK since birth hood....

they have learnt and come to know some certain rich and proud assets of the country, that possible will also influence their decision.

players think beyond football in this case most times

godspeed:
Pls house, since Ugbade missed out, who was the first Nigerian to have featured at all FIFA competition finals?

I think it's Chinedu Obasi

TheSuperNerd:
Not so fast. Dest will only have Dumfries to compete with had he chosen Holland and several reports out of holland affirm he is a much better RB than Dumfries. Inspite of this... Dest chose the lesser option in USA. His fatherland.

In all, it is a choice. Not everyone will choose like Dest.

Alright let me agree he chooses his fatherland

He is still 18 thou so he might make the dutch team later if he chooses to represent them

Humility017:


for Dest to make mention of it...it means he considers it too while thinking on both nations.

you think this players only considers football when making this final choice.... didn't you read the huddersfied guy reason why he won't have opt for Nigeria...because he doesn't feel it, he don't even know how the country look like unlike the Anglo Nigerians... this dudes are already feeling and living Nigeria while I'm the UK since birth hood....

they have learnt and come to know some certain rich and proud assets of the country, that possible will also influence their decision.

players think beyond football in this case most times

I get your point now and i think i will agree with you

I hope you got mine thou

just because they werent good enough for the english youth teams. even the likes of iwobi,moses,ameobi,aluko,aina,ebuehi at first approach turned us down. only a few like anichebe,george abbey,ekong and balogun jumped to the offer at the first contact with the nff.

this decisions are not easy to make because majority of these kids have never visited nigeria and the only nation they know is their country of birth, from a young age harbor the ambition and desire to achieve greatness with these european countries. the unfortunate ones rescind their decisions on time when it became obvious to them that breaking into the snr team of this countries will be difficult while the more talented and fortunate ones fight on to actualize thier dreams with their country of birth.

the likes of lookman,uduokhai,ejaria,ojo,ehizibue and akpoguma fall into the category of those who have woken up from their slumber to accept reality while the likes of tammy,tomori,torunarigha,billing and danjuma are the fortunate ones who are still fighting to actualize their dreams.

Eartquake1:


Daniel Jinadu declared for Nigeria did anybody beg him? Adrian Akande declared for Nigeria did any body beg him?

Those you have been begging how many have you been able to convince

You think being exposed and open minded means licking foreign born asses, this your comment reeks of low self esteem

Humility017:


you see why your thinking is flawed...
you barely think and consider other variables....
your approach amount to throwing away a baby with the bath water....

It seems you don't know what else to say

Get lost

According to celebrated Spanish sports daily AS, European giants Real Madrid are tracking Nigeria U17 international Samson Tijani at the ongoing FIFA U17 World Cup ahead of a potential transfer.

The deep-lying playmaker is one of seven wonderkids Los Blancos will monitor during the tournament in Brazil, the others being Matías Palacios (Argentina, San Lorenzo), Talles Magno (Brazil, Vasco da Gama), Naci ünüvar (Netherlands, Ajax), Adil Aouchiche (France, PSG), Johan Mina (Ecuador, Emelec) and Fernando Ovelar (Paraguay, Cerro Porteño).

Two other Spanish La Liga clubs in the shape of Barcelona and Atlético Madrid have sent their representatives to run the rule over the Golden Eaglets stars, the newspaper reported.

If Tijani continues to deliver impressive performances in Brazil, Real Madrid believe he is a player they can afford so long as other top European teams do not express interest in his signature.

Having said that, allnigeriasoccer.com can confirm that the Golden Eaglets number 4 is on the radar of Manchester City as well as unnamed clubs in Russia and Belgium.

Tijani was the star of the show as Nigeria came from behind to beat Hungary 4-2 in their World Cup opener on Saturday.

He will be 19 in a couple of days. And the matter of his allegiance has been settled today. He has chosen the USA for life.

andrew444:


Alright let me agree he chooses his fatherland

He is still 18 thou so he might make the dutch team later if he chooses to represent them

andrew444:

I get your point now and i think i will agree with you
I hope you got mine thou

yes sure bro.... thanks for your time

Saka is already playing for Arsenal first team, he should be invited for Benin qualifiers

I want to see something

u23 camp news latest

Tom Dele Bashiru and Orji Okonkwo have both arrived the Olympic Eagles camp. Hope Imama can make this work. Now we have 3 professional players

Eartquake1:
Saka is already playing for Arsenal first team, he should be invited for Benin match

I want to see something

Has he been cleared by FIFA?

solonnachi:


Has he been cleared by FIFA?

He should be invited to give his go-ahead for the clearing process

TheSuperNerd:
He will be 19 in a couple of days. And the matter of his allegiance has been settled today. He has chosen the USA for life.

Not a bad decision , he will get to play in the world cup with the US soon

Eartquake1:
Saka is already playing for Arsenal first team, he should be invited for Benin qualifiers

I want to see something

Off course, they can give a try, playing for arsenal first team is not easy

heard pinnick recently made contact with the lad and his representatives and the discussion so far have been positive. with the look of things he is likely to turn out for us but everything is still open at this moment

solonnachi:


Has he been cleared by FIFA?

Azubuike vs nwakaeme as both starts

Mikel still out injured

Eartquake1:
Saka is already playing for Arsenal first team, he should be invited for Benin qualifiers

I want to see something

don't you know that he needs FIFA clearance to get to play for Nigerian?

damn....

Simple as abc

Humility017:

yes sure bro.... thanks for your time

charlesemeka85:
heard pinnick recently made contact with the lad and his representatives and the discussion so far have been positive. with the look of things he is likely to turn out for us but everything is still open at this moment

That's great. Pinnick has learnt his lesson after the Tammy wahala and he won't want to make any noise about it and cause any trouble with England. Once bitten twice shy

after the tammy debacle, pinnick and rohr make moves to lure this kids and it is kept out from the media which is one of the reason i didnt believe the news from owngoalnigeria on eze because they are the only site with that news while others are still saying that the lad is likely to be invited for the benin and lesotho games or in the nearest future. let's just fold ur hands and watch how things unfold in the nearest future

solonnachi:


That's great. Pinnick has learnt his lesson after the Tammy wahala and he won't want to make any noise about it and cause any trouble with England. Once bitten twice shy

Humility017:



don't you know that he needs FIFA clearance to get to play for Nigerian?

damn....

Yeah I know that's why I mentioned go ahead for clearance