It was wrong of that pastor. He should allow you to open God. I am of Assemblies of God also but and I understand that most of our pastors are placing more emphasis on money. But I still believe in the spiritual foundation of the church, so I can't leave the church for any of these pastors, some of whom have come to meet me in the church. I challenge false doctrines. a But endeavour to give to support God's work as you can afford to.

Peterosky:
Hhhhmmmm this tithe issue enhe! That was how last year one greedy pastor in Assemblies Of God suspended me for not paying tithe and even had the guts to command me to go and bring my tithe from January to August before I can be reinstated, not even minding how I was surviving considering the fact that I just got wedded and some debts still waiting to be settled. Na so I just jejely pack myself and my lovely and sweet wife commot for the Church piam! to another one. I can not come and kill myself for any greedy pastor. Mbanu.

dermmy:


I'm happy you are liberated.

but it's true Na, when I was even paying my tithe, I lost my job and was without any job for 3years.

I rather use the money to help the needy around me.

QuietHammer:
In the words of Fela, "Archbishop na mikiki, popu(pope) na enjoyment, Imamu na gbaladun ehn ra-ra-ra-ra-ra"

Archbishop dey enjoy! Imam sef dey enjoy! Popu sef dey enjoy!

Cumpel1615:
but it's true Na, when I was even paying my tithe, I lost my job and was without any job for 3years.

I rather use the money to help the needy around me.

That was what the Apostles did. Helping widows, the needy and sending relief materials to places ravaged with famine.

dermmy:


That was what the Apostles did. Helping widows, the needy and sending relief materials to places ravaged with famine.

yes, but if the church need assistance of any form, we should endeavor to assist.

Great piece. Continue writing for His good name

unstoppable51:
In recent time, the subject and practice of “giving” has raised so much dust to prove that “giving is a very fundamental practice to the Christian faith.”

From tithes to offerings, to firstfruits and partnerships, the Bible never leaves us in the dark concerning how to go about giving in order to honour and glorify God with our resources and as well curb excesses or abuse.

What does the Bible especially the New Testament teach concerning Tithes, Offerings, Partnership etc? Is it still right to practice these things as believers in Christ?

In a bid to fight against manipulations on pulpits, most people have come out to say it is not right to practice one type of giving or the other in the New Testament. While it is true that the New Testament is not loud or is completely silent on different kinds of giving like Tithes, Firstfruits, etc, it is also true that there is no where the New Testament or the whole Bible expressly spoke against them.

What the authors of the New Testament actually took time to address in the epistles, is the motives behind everything we do today as believers - including giving.

“.…..whatever ye do, do all to the glory of God.” 1 Corinthians 10:31b

If you give whether Tithes, Offerings, Firstfruits, Seeds or even Partnerships because a preacher promised you an overnight multiplication of finances, you have just been scammed. You will get nothing out of it, seeing that you never really gave it to honour the Lord and to see His work prosper. You gave it out of greed to have your money doubled overnight. And God is no money doubler.

If you give to be seen and praised of men, have your name engraved on church walls and seats, that’s the only reward you will get out of it. Regardless of how much you gave. You must never give to impress any man.

Always be alert against manipulators on suits who use fear and threats to force you to give. They may come to you saying things like “if you don’t give you won’t get blessed. Your business will be cursed, your health attacked and you will go to hell.” Such are the messengers of Satan who are only after their own belly. Never give in to their threats.

“For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” (Rom 16:18)

The man in Christ is an already blessed being. He does not need to give in order to keep curses, destroyers and satanic attacks away from him. The blessings of God already bestowed on him ensures that.

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ” (Eph 1:3)

The man in Christ is to give as God has prospered him, bearing in mind that his giving or not giving will go a long way to affect the work of the Gospel, since it takes money to acquire and maintain things like public address systems, church buildings etc.

“Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work” (2Co 9:7-

A believer can purpose in his heart to give 10, 20, 30 or 90 percent of his resources on a daily, weekly, monthly or yearly basis. He has not sinned in any way regardless of the name that kind of giving is called in his local church in line with the Word. If it is done cheerfully without any form of manipulation, to honour the Lord and support His work, then there is a reward for it which the Lord Himself will give us.

So can believers still practice the giving of Tithes, Offerings, Partnerships etc in church today? As long as the motives for such is in line with the scriptures(to honour the Lord, support ministers and fellow believers in the work of ministry) , there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

In our local church (Grace Word Assembly), we are perfectly fine with just the regular offerings and ministry partnerships that we give in our church branches. But that does not make us any better than other churches where people give more than that. Neither does this mean that if any member decides of his or her own will to give more than what we regularly give in church, we will reject it. No we won’t. As long as they have properly understood what the Bible truly teaches concerning giving, it is all good.

I hope this blesses you. Say “I choose to honour the Lord, with my resources. Through my giving, the work of the Gospel will prosper in my locality and all over the world. Glory to God!”


Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/04/concerning-tithes-offerings-firstfruits.html

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So can believers still practice the giving of Tithes, Offerings, Partnerships etc in church today? As long as the motives for such is in line with the scriptures(to honour the Lord, support ministers and fellow believers in the work of ministry) , there is absolutely nothing wrong with it."



This rubbish is not why tithes should paid according to the bible.

Liar

Cumpel1615:
yes, but if the church need assistance of any form, we should endeavor to assist.

Yea. That's what should be discussed in the 21st century church even there are people who donate willingly, they recieve donations from government and NGO but trying to bring back the mosaic law because the church needs more money issuing threats and scaring the hell out of people is a big scam.

Bennycollins:
It was wrong of that pastor. He should allow you to open God. I am of Assemblies of God also but and I understand that most of our pastors are placing more emphasis on money. But I still believe in the spiritual foundation of the church, so I can't leave the church for any of these pastors, some of whom have come to meet me in the church. I challenge false doctrines. a But endeavour to give to support God's work as you can afford to.

.My dear I wouldn't want to tell you how much I have supported the church financially, since it negates the biblical principles of giving. Not leaving the church means sitting on the back seat like forever, I am sure you can understand the humiliation. And besides, I hate the issue of tithe card in AG.So the best was to leave the church for the pastor, mostly considering the fact that AG in my own opinion have left the mark of Christianity. Their major concentration now is on money and no more soul winning and making heaven which used to be the main target far back 1995 when I started worshipping with the church.

darol4real:
Those kicking against Tithe should go back to the bible very well. Tithe was God command and i see no reason why we should go against a maker...some of you kicking against tithe, when is time to give offering in your church, you will look for #5, #20, #40 #50....none of you can give offering of #1000 and upward...How can you expand the gospel of Jesus Christ without finance? When Christ came into this world, he didn't talk about Tithe because it was God commandment and how can a son go against the father? For you to understand bible, you will need the Holy Spirit to interpret to you. You can't read bible with your personal knowledge and you think you know bible.

give us the holy spirit interpretation of the bible concerning tithes.

Spirit led giving and cheerful giving is the standard for the new covenant.

Meanwhile...
When pro-tithers are ready to show us where God specifically mentioned money as part of the items to be tithed, then they should know that monetary tithing is unscriptural.

When God required money for the needs of the Temple, He specifically mentioned where all Israelite males should be levied a temple tax of half a shekel every year. That was an instance of God clearly asking for money.

Refer to Exodus 30 v 13-16 for where God gave the instruction through Moses;

13 This shall every man give, that goeth into the number, half a shekel, after the [a]shekel of the Sanctuary: (a shekel is twenty gerahs) the half shekel shall be an offering to the Lord.
14 All that are numbered from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering to the Lord.
15 The rich shall not pass, and the poor shall not diminish from half a shekel, when ye shall give an offering unto the Lord, for the redemption of your lives.
16 So thou shalt take the money of the redemption of the children of Israel, and shalt put it unto the use of the Tabernacle of the Congregation, that it may be a memorial unto the children of Israel before the Lord, for the redemption of your lives.

BASED ON THE ABOVE, IT WAS CLEAR WHEN GOD ASKED FOR MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE TEMPLE... NOW LET US EXAMINE GOD'S REQUIREMENT FOR TITHES

Refer to Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29;

22 Thou shalt give the tithe of all the increase of thy seed, that cometh forth of the field year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God (in the place which he shall choose to cause his Name to dwell there) the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstborn of thy kine, and of thy sheep, that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it, because the place is far from thee, where the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name, when the Lord thy God shall bless thee,
25 Then shalt thou make it in money, and take the money in thine hand, and go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose.
26 And thou shalt bestow the money for whatsoever thine heart desireth: whether it be ox, or sheep, or wine, or strong drink, or whatsoever thine heart desireth: and shalt eat it there before the Lord thy God, and rejoice, both thou, and thine household.
27 And the Levite that is within thy gates, shalt thou not forsake: for he hath neither part nor inheritance with thee.
28 At the end of three years thou shalt [e]bring forth all the tithes of thine increase of the same year, and lay it up within thy gates.
29 Then the Levite shall come, because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee, and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, and shall eat, and be filled, that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

Based on the above verses, God clearly mentioned what is titheable, and money was not part of the items to be tithed.

IN CONCLUSION:
So any fraudster that comes with the excuse that money was not in use because the Israelites were predominantly farmers and cattle rearers...should read Exodus 30 v 13-16 and explain to us why God demanded money from these same Israelites...but specified crops and livestock as tithes in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29;

Also, I'll be waiting for scriptural references where God made tithing mandatory for gentiles as well.

dermmy:


Yea. That's what should be discussed in the 21st century church even there are people who donate willingly, they recieve donations from government and NGO but trying to bring back the mosaic law because the church needs more money issuing threats and scaring the hell out of people is a big scam.

exactly

The modern days levites or pastors would always compel their church members to pay tithes and offerings willingly. The blessing of God comes as a result of total obedience to his statutes and not by giving alone, in d bible days d believers gave willingly and not by compulsion to those in need and also for d propagation of d gospel (Acts 4 vs 32 - 37). When d bible says bring all d tithes into d store house that there may be food in my house (Malachi 3 vs10), d verse didnt mention that tithes and offerings were meant for d pastors alone, there should be distribution of things brought into house of God equally to those in need, pastors of these days are greedy and selfish. What brings blessing is when you give secretly (matthew 6 vs 2 -4) dont give to impress people In church or want to show off.

darol4real:
Those kicking against Tithe should go back to the bible very well. Tithe was God command and i see no reason why we should go against a maker...some of you kicking against tithe, when is time to give offering in your church, you will look for #5, #20, #40 #50....none of you can give offering of #1000 and upward...How can you expand the gospel of Jesus Christ without finance? When Christ came into this world, he didn't talk about Tithe because it was God commandment and how can a son go against the father? For you to understand bible, you will need the Holy Spirit to interpret to you. You can't read bible with your personal knowledge and you think you know bible.

He talked about tithe.....It wasn't important to Christian according to Him

Mt 23:23

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others

TOPCRUISE:
Heh. By the time pastor order the technicals to increase the volume of church loudspeaker, open Bible and begin to shout cankerworm, locust, poverty this and that, and proceed calmly by the reiterating thithing in the bible and conclude by asking question like do you want to be successful in life, do you want to move to the next level or you want to remain where you are. You will have a rethink.

Looooool. Funniest comment here. Ma God save us!

METHINKS YOU REALLY NEED A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE.

darol4real:
Those kicking against Tithe should go back to the bible very well. Tithe was God command and i see no reason why we should go against a maker...some of you kicking against tithe, when is time to give offering in your church, you will look for #5, #20, #40 #50....none of you can give offering of #1000 and upward...How can you expand the gospel of Jesus Christ without finance? When Christ came into this world, he didn't talk about Tithe because it was God commandment and how can a son go against the father? For you to understand bible, you will need the Holy Spirit to interpret to you. You can't read bible with your personal knowledge and you think you know bible.

With a clear conscience i will continue to say it,"Christianity is not a religion".Christ didn't come to create any religion/doctrine.Christianity is all about "life in the spirit".
My conscience is more at peace when I give to people than taking money to one building and paying It as tithe.

darol4real:
Those kicking against Tithe should go back to the bible very well. Tithe was God command and i see no reason why we should go against a maker...some of you kicking against tithe, when is time to give offering in your church, you will look for #5, #20, #40 #50....none of you can give offering of #1000 and upward...How can you expand the gospel of Jesus Christ without finance? When Christ came into this world, he didn't talk about Tithe because it was God commandment and how can a son go against the father? For you to understand bible, you will need the Holy Spirit to interpret to you. You can't read bible with your personal knowledge and you think you know bible.

Point taken. But you know the kind of world we live in today.

darol4real:
Those kicking against Tithe should go back to the bible very well. Tithe was God command and i see no reason why we should go against a maker...some of you kicking against tithe, when is time to give offering in your church, you will look for #5, #20, #40 #50....none of you can give offering of #1000 and upward...How can you expand the gospel of Jesus Christ without finance? When Christ came into this world, he didn't talk about Tithe because it was God commandment and how can a son go against the father? For you to understand bible, you will need the Holy Spirit to interpret to you. You can't read bible with your personal knowledge and you think you know bible.

If the church needs money let them ask for it, don't use old traditions, false doctrines and fear to deceive members of their hard earn money.
Happy Sunday

AmuDimpka:
Stop decieving people

Jesus never gave tithes, never accepted tithes and never encouraged any to give either

None of the apostle Paul tithes anywhere

And there are no place in Bible that tithes was paid in money

Tithes

OP will not read Hebrews 7 and 8, concerning tithes

unstoppable51:
In recent time, the subject and practice of “giving” has raised so much dust to prove that “giving is a very fundamental practice to the Christian faith.”

From tithes to offerings, to firstfruits and partnerships, the Bible never leaves us in the dark concerning how to go about giving in order to honour and glorify God with our resources and as well curb excesses or abuse.

What does the Bible especially the New Testament teach concerning Tithes, Offerings, Partnership etc? Is it still right to practice these things as believers in Christ?

In a bid to fight against manipulations on pulpits, most people have come out to say it is not right to practice one type of giving or the other in the New Testament. While it is true that the New Testament is not loud or is completely silent on different kinds of giving like Tithes, Firstfruits, etc, it is also true that there is no where the New Testament or the whole Bible expressly spoke against them.

What the authors of the New Testament actually took time to address in the epistles, is the motives behind everything we do today as believers - including giving.

“.…..whatever ye do, do all to the glory of God.” 1 Corinthians 10:31b

If you give whether Tithes, Offerings, Firstfruits, Seeds or even Partnerships because a preacher promised you an overnight multiplication of finances, you have just been scammed. You will get nothing out of it, seeing that you never really gave it to honour the Lord and to see His work prosper. You gave it out of greed to have your money doubled overnight. And God is no money doubler.

If you give to be seen and praised of men, have your name engraved on church walls and seats, that’s the only reward you will get out of it. Regardless of how much you gave. You must never give to impress any man.

Always be alert against manipulators on suits who use fear and threats to force you to give. They may come to you saying things like “if you don’t give you won’t get blessed. Your business will be cursed, your health attacked and you will go to hell.” Such are the messengers of Satan who are only after their own belly. Never give in to their threats.

“For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” (Rom 16:18)

The man in Christ is an already blessed being. He does not need to give in order to keep curses, destroyers and satanic attacks away from him. The blessings of God already bestowed on him ensures that.

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ” (Eph 1:3)

The man in Christ is to give as God has prospered him, bearing in mind that his giving or not giving will go a long way to affect the work of the Gospel, since it takes money to acquire and maintain things like public address systems, church buildings etc.

“Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work” (2Co 9:7-

A believer can purpose in his heart to give 10, 20, 30 or 90 percent of his resources on a daily, weekly, monthly or yearly basis. He has not sinned in any way regardless of the name that kind of giving is called in his local church in line with the Word. If it is done cheerfully without any form of manipulation, to honour the Lord and support His work, then there is a reward for it which the Lord Himself will give us.

So can believers still practice the giving of Tithes, Offerings, Partnerships etc in church today? As long as the motives for such is in line with the scriptures(to honour the Lord, support ministers and fellow believers in the work of ministry) , there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

In our local church (Grace Word Assembly), we are perfectly fine with just the regular offerings and ministry partnerships that we give in our church branches. But that does not make us any better than other churches where people give more than that. Neither does this mean that if any member decides of his or her own will to give more than what we regularly give in church, we will reject it. No we won’t. As long as they have properly understood what the Bible truly teaches concerning giving, it is all good.

I hope this blesses you. Say “I choose to honour the Lord, with my resources. Through my giving, the work of the Gospel will prosper in my locality and all over the world. Glory to God!”


Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/04/concerning-tithes-offerings-firstfruits.html

my friend go and read Hebrews 7 and 8: Deuteronomy 14:22-29

oneclickng:

OP will not read Hebrews 7 and 8, concerning tithes

tell us what was said in Hebrews 7&8 na

Cumpel1615:
tell us what was said in Hebrews 7&8 na

read it by yourself

Peterosky:
Hhhhmmmm this tithe issue enhe! That was how last year one greedy pastor in Assemblies Of God suspended me for not paying tithe and even had the guts to command me to go and bring my tithe from January to August before I can be reinstated, not even minding how I was surviving considering the fact that I just got wedded and some debts still waiting to be settled. Na so I just jejely pack myself and my lovely and sweet wife commot for the Church piam! to another one. I can not come and kill myself for any greedy pastor. Mbanu.

If it's true, then it's very wrong and bad

I hate Christians who cherry pick from the old testament of the bible. If you all want to follow the laws of the old testament, then you hypocrites should follow it through and through. For example, the part that says "adulterers should be stoned to death", or that "if someone slaps you, turn and give that person a harder slap", and some many other Mosaic laws which are practically impossible to follow.

oneclickng:

read it by yourself

I have read it Na long before now.

Abraham paid a tenth of his SPOILS to Melchizedek. Abraham willingly gave Melchizedek 10%.

oneclickng:

OP will not read Hebrews 7 and 8, concerning tithes

No.mimd them

TOPCRUISE:
Heh. By the time pastor order the technicals to increase the volume of church loudspeaker, open Bible and begin to shout cankerworm, locust, devourer, poverty this and that, and proceed calmly by reiterating the importance of thithing in the bible and thereafter conclude by asking questions like; Do you want to be successful in life? Do you want to move to the next level or you want to remain where you are? Do you want to be rich? You will have a rethink.

I will just stand up and go to any beer parlour to cruz myself which is better than listening to a manipulator.

lazarusokafor90:
I hate Christians who cherry pick from the old testament of the bible. If you all want to follow the laws of the old testament, then you hypocrites should follow it through and through. For example, the part that says "adulterers should be stoned to death", or that "if someone slaps you, turn and give that person a harder slap", and some many other Mosaic laws which are practically impossible to follow.

No.mimd all these Pentecostalsm

Odunharry:

If it's true, then it's very wrong and bad

.My brother, what do I stand to gain to lie against the church of God? Maybe you need to check my profile for my pre-wedding thread. AG is a Church I have worshipped with since 1995,at some point, I have held the post of a Sunday school Superintendent in one of the local churches. So coming to say anything that is not true against the church is totally out of place bro. Leaving the church was a very difficult situation, but just that I couldn't take the shit.

Very educative, really learning a lot from this thread. The issue of tithing is a massive thing in my church and I have being battling with this even as I do make donations and support the work of the church. The concentration on tithe and the threat that comes with is on another level.

justwise:
Very educative, really learning a lot from this thread. The issue of tithing is a massive thing in my church and I have being battling with this even as I do make donations and support the work of the church. The concentration on tithe and the threat that comes with is on another level.

That is madness...you don't threaten anyone bible..even Bible said give willingly and also there is no place in the Bible that tithe was paid in money , also jesus has paid the highest tithes

Jesus never paid tithes
Jesus never received tithes
Apostles never paid tithes
They never received tithes
Jesus instructed us to pay tax not tithes

You give to the poor
You give the needy


Tithing is like bribing God with 10% for him to bless you with 100% ...God isn't a pinzi scheme...if he wants to bless he would bless you and never gives conditions


How many tithes did David , Solomon and job paid


No allow them use your brain drin k garri