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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:07pm On Nov 12, 2019
samorobo:



I think you are speaking for yourself rather than the rest gh citizens....Look I am not telling you to build skyscraper or high rise , if you can make your mid rise building look so sophisticated and ultra modern then I am super fine with it...for instance no serious multi national will want their business in Accra because you lack grade A office spaces for such companies to operate......
Citizens building randomly is an error and it's happens even here in Nigeria...if such privileges should be granted to citizens let the govt create a body that monitors the standard of buildings you are putting up...
citizens are not just building randomly but according to plans
provided by each district.

Because of the lack of grade A offices
Multinationals prefer to provide for themselves and that is why they still choose Ghana.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:08pm On Nov 12, 2019
It easy - bring credible data - you know Ghana well - I am scrounging the internet - trying to find data - and whatever google gives me - I am going with it.
vaxx2:
look, can you post this as reference in your uni and it will be approved? quoting blogs .... Don't do that with me again
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 1:09pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Which PWC?

According to PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) in its, PwC Hotel Outlook 2016-2020, report hotel rooms in Kenya will increase from 18,100 in 2015 to 20,700 while six hotels are set to open in Tanzania, adding 600 rooms over the same period.
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Dar-and-Nairobi-in-plans-to-increase-hotel-bed-capacity-/2560-3417778-n2hjj1z/index.html

That is prediction...pwc current trend says it is 10.000

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:12pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Maybe an investor looking for natural resources will consider Accra before Nairobi or Dar Slum. Otherwise an investor looking at other sectors of economy from real estate, finance, tech, industries, hotels, social amenities, transport, name it - Nairobi is so much ahead of any city in Ghana there is no point doing a comparison. Nairobi is already ahead of Lagos (despite the pop) - and is starting to compare with South African cities.

Something is wrong with Ghana statistics. If I have time - I can tell you - it easy to know if data has been cooked. You can ask Nigerians how we debunked most of their doggy stats. It easy to cross-reference with easily available international data that are outside your stats body.

lets go on the stats break down

because you can highly beat Ghana in the real estate sector, finance, industries, social amenities

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 1:13pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
It easy - bring credible data - you know Ghana well - I am scrounging the internet - trying to find data - and whatever google gives me - I am going with it.
Now calculate all the available cement production links to Ghana on that table and value the tonnes yourself ....you will see Nigeria there....

https://www.globalcement.com/news/itemlist/tag/Ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:14pm On Nov 12, 2019
Kazikazi:
Tanzania has a huge informal sector than Ghana probably.But still our few middle class need better homes and better offices.Always,demand will bring supply.As u can google,Dar looks better than Accra. Our second largest city with a population of less than a million,Mwanza city( aka rock city) still looks better than Kumasi.
The question remain,where are Ghana's middle income dudes working from? Where are their offices and homes?
I should admit,I was shocked when I googled " Kumasi city". May be what I saw are photos of over 30 years back
grin grin grin

then there is no demand for office spaces in Ghana because people already provide for themselves.

No city with underdeveloped social amenities in Tanzania looks better than anywhere in Ghana
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:15pm On Nov 12, 2019
Heckling little girl. It was 18K in 2015 - how can current trend be less.
vaxx2:
That is prediction...pwc current trend says it is 10.000

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:18pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Which PWC?

According to PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) in its, PwC Hotel Outlook 2016-2020, report hotel rooms in Kenya will increase from 18,100 in 2015 to 20,700 while six hotels are set to open in Tanzania, adding 600 rooms over the same period.
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Dar-and-Nairobi-in-plans-to-increase-hotel-bed-capacity-/2560-3417778-n2hjj1z/index.html


Lol if just30 should fall this nonsense then I will know he is gullible...You went to PWC websites right? An you copied and pasted from it. Why didn't you attach the link? But rather You replaced it with an archaic source from your country to back it up (it was even talking about plans)....this was the same thing you did to me and tylann fell for it....
My guess is that you have tampered with those figures that is why you don't want to attach the PWC link which you just visited.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:21pm On Nov 12, 2019
Why not add it yourself. I only see Ghanacem aiming for 3m. You're being hostile because you are standing on shifting sand as we turn our focus temporarily on Ghana.
vaxx2:
Now calculate all the available cement production links to Ghana on that table and value the tonnes yourself ....you will see Nigeria there....

https://www.globalcement.com/news/itemlist/tag/Ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:21pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
look, can you post this as reference in your uni and it will be approved? quoting blogs .... Don't do that with me again

Lol you busted him... honestly rvp is not wise. He lies like a 2 year old kid..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 1:21pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Heckling little girl. It was 18K in 2015 - how can current trend be less.
ok . Agreed.....but why is the trending falling....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 1:22pm On Nov 12, 2019
Some camping stuff in Tanzania

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:22pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
That is prediction...pwc current trend says it is 10.000

Didn't you notice what he did?....

I don't know if he thinks he is talking to kids

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 1:24pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Why not add it yourself. I only see Ghanacem aiming for 3m. You're being hostile because you are standing on shifting sand as we turn our focus temporarily on Ghana.
i Don't spoonfeed people . You should know that by now. It isn't only Ghana cement on that list, there are other private cement on the list as well. i love the new turnning point. it shows you want to learn about Ghana.

let me make the table a bit easier for you, calculate both the foreing production in Ghana like the turkey company and that of the Ghana cement as well. if it not possible. give us the data you find on the table here . let's calculate it together. I will not be spoonfeeding you. maybe just30 can

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:25pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
We are trying to find the truth. I am seeing 5M tonnes domestic consumption in 2018 with installed capacity of 7.5m. Where is the 10M coming from.
Ghana produce 15 million metric tonnes in 2019

Cement manufacturing companies in Ghana are appealing to government to quickly implement a policy which will ensure that all roads in the country are made of concrete.

According to them this will help consume the surplus cement in the country as well as sustain their operations.

Figures available from the cement monitoring committee show that Ghana consumes about 8 million metric tons of cement annually.

This consumption level is less than the production estimated at 12 million metric tons.

Speaking to Citi Business News on the matter, a member of the Cement Monitoring Committee, Mr. Sammy Amegayibor said President Akufo Addo who had earlier made mention of such a policy, should ensure that it is put into force to sustain the country’s cement industry.

“The total installed capacity will come to about twelve million metric tonnes, this is more than what Ghana needs for the cement industry. I mean there will have to be a way to export some of the products if all of them want to sustain business, I remember the President himself in one of his addresses to the public said that one of the policies that government will bring up to consume the surplus cement was to ensure roads projects are done using a lot of cement material”.

Mr Amegayibor stressed that should government see to the implementation of such a policy the cement industry will continue to grow, “If we live by it, that will be the best way to ensure that the cement industry is sustained”.

He added, “I mean after all, this industry creates jobs for several hundred thousands of people and so if they want to sustain business and continue to produce then there has to be a deliberate policy attempt to consume the cement that is produced”.

Those were last year figures

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:27pm On Nov 12, 2019
You're incorrigible idiot. I think Just30 probably confused revenues with hotel rooms. Otherwise you can go and download 2019-2013 report from PWC

https://www.pwc.co.za/en/assets/pdf/hotels-outlook-19-2023.pdf

Page 54 - Kenya branded hotel rooms are now 20,700

samorobo:


Lol if just30 should fall this nonsense then I will know he is gullible...You went to PWC websites right? An you copied and pasted from it. Why didn't you attach the link? But rather You replaced it with an archaic source from your country to back it up (it was even talking about plans)....this was the same thing you did to me and tylann fell for it....
My guess is that you have tampered with those figures that is why you don't want to attach the PWC link which you just visited.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 1:28pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
grin grin grin

then there is no demand for office spaces in Ghana because people already provide for themselves.

No city with underdeveloped social amenities in Tanzania looks better than anywhere in Ghana
Always my point is,your real estate sector don't match with your economic growth, or higher per capita income or your GDP in general. A quick look of Kumasi city comparing with mwanza city in Tz,shows mwanza has a better real estate. Again Tz has a very huge informal sector. But Kumasi with higher population, with higher per capita,with higher hdi,looks worse than mwanza.
Somewhere,somewhat, your stats are questionable. Or Tz is underreporting?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:29pm On Nov 12, 2019
Then stay the f. out of every reply - and let Just30 - who has more than your two brain cells - engage us with facts.
vaxx2:
i Don't spoonfeed people . You should know that by now. It isn't only Ghana cement on that list, there are other private cement on the list as well. i love the new turnning point. it shows you want to learn about Ghana.

let me make the table a bit easier for you, calculate both the foreing production in Ghana like the turkey company and that of the Ghana cement as well. of it not possible. give is the data you find on the table here . let's calculate it together. I will be spoonfeeding you. maybe just30 can
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:29pm On Nov 12, 2019
samorobo:


Didn't you notice what he did?....

I don't know if he thinks he is talking to kids
Continue yapping dude. At the end of the day Ghana and Kenya will still blend positively. smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 1:30pm On Nov 12, 2019
samorobo:


Lol if just30 should fall this nonsense then I will know he is gullible...You went to PWC websites right? An you copied and pasted from it. Why didn't you attach the link? But rather You replaced it with an archaic source from your country to back it up (it was even talking about plans)....this was the same thing you did to me and tylann fell for it....
My guess is that you have tampered with those figures that is why you don't want to attach the PWC link which you just visited.
he will soon be busted . just relax... I love holding by the hands not the elbow....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 1:30pm On Nov 12, 2019
Austine1212:


The Sevens Rugby is a scaled down version of the Rugby, it is not that important as the Rugby 15. It's like comparing football with beach football.

Thats why I say Namibia is better and also in Ranking.

Lemme be naive, the only reason Kenya won in Kenya is because the pitch was so bad, and youyou guys are used to train in a bad pitch lol

I saw the project just now on Citi TV? Well, hope is not a wet dreams like kenya?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 1:31pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
At last the 2.3 billion dollar sky train in Ghana has been sign.... samorobo don't you think this is good news


The concession agreement for the construction of the Accra Sky Train Project has been signed on the sidelines of the ongoing African Investment Forum in Johannesburg, South Africa.



The signing of the agreement means feasibility studies, spanning a period of nine months to determine the bankability of the project will commence, with the investors assuring that the first station for the Accra Sky Train project will be opened in 9 months.

At the signing ceremony on Monday, November 11, President Akufo-Addo described it as “a happy day for Ghana and her good people”, adding that it is a “critical step towards the consummation of this project”, and a vivid testimony of the value of the African Investment Forum.

The President thanked the SkyTrain Consortium for putting together the wherewithal that is allowing this project to go forward.

The Accra Sky Train, according to him, “is meeting an important infrastructural need, and hopefully the step that is being taken today, that is signing the concession agreement, is bring the project to much nearer conclusion. That is what we are hoping for so that the people of Ghana benefit from the progress and the relief that a modern system of transport in our capital city is going to bring.”

SkyTrain systems are pre-fabricated using precision moulded, pre-stressed reinforced concrete components that are capable of being installed at a very rapid rate, meaning that there is minimal disruption and congestion in the urban area that is undergoing installation and commissioning.

The proposed SkyTrain initiative in Accra provides for the development of five routes, four of which are comprised of radial routes that originate at the proposed SkyTrain Terminal, at the heart of Accra, at a newly developed Kwame Nkrumah circle, and one (1) route that provides and intra-city commuter loop distribution service, also emanating from Circle.

The Project envisages a total track length across all routes of 194 kilometres.

Source: 3news.com
I saw the project just now on Citi TV? Well, hope is not a wet dreams like kenya?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:31pm On Nov 12, 2019
How can installed capacity of 12m produce 15m metric tonnes?. I think you need to find us more credible data than some Dangote cement lobbyist trying to commit Ghana gov to expensive concrete roads like they are doing in Nigeria. Concrete roads are too expensive for Ghana or Nigeria.
Just30:
Ghana produce 15 million metric tonnes in 2019

Cement manufacturing companies in Ghana are appealing to government to quickly implement a policy which will ensure that all roads in the country are made of concrete.

According to them this will help consume the surplus cement in the country as well as sustain their operations.

Figures available from the cement monitoring committee show that Ghana consumes about 8 million metric tons of cement annually.

This consumption level is less than the production estimated at 12 million metric tons.

Speaking to Citi Business News on the matter, a member of the Cement Monitoring Committee, Mr. Sammy Amegayibor said President Akufo Addo who had earlier made mention of such a policy, should ensure that it is put into force to sustain the country’s cement industry.

“The total installed capacity will come to about twelve million metric tonnes, this is more than what Ghana needs for the cement industry. I mean there will have to be a way to export some of the products if all of them want to sustain business, I remember the President himself in one of his addresses to the public said that one of the policies that government will bring up to consume the surplus cement was to ensure roads projects are done using a lot of cement material”.

Mr Amegayibor stressed that should government see to the implementation of such a policy the cement industry will continue to grow, “If we live by it, that will be the best way to ensure that the cement industry is sustained”.

He added, “I mean after all, this industry creates jobs for several hundred thousands of people and so if they want to sustain business and continue to produce then there has to be a deliberate policy attempt to consume the cement that is produced”.

Those were last year figures
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 1:32pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Then stay the f. out of every reply - and let Just30 - who has more than your two brain cells - engage us with facts.
Spoonfeeding you will determine you are dump yourself. i want to agree you are smart a little .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:32pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
he will soon be busted . just relax... I love holding by the hands not the elbow....
This is ironical, lol! smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:33pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
You & Sammy - should find a private room - to heckle. Just fish the latest cement consumption data.

I read mine here https://brandongaille.com/15-ghana-cement-industry-statistics-and-trends/

#1. Local cement manufacturers in Ghana have an installed capacity to produce about 7.4 million tons of product every year. That is above the annual consumption of cement in Ghana, which is estimated to be 5 million tons per year. (Ghana Trade)

help yourself


http://citifmonline.com/2018/01/concrete-roads-absorb-ghanas-surplus-cement-industry/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 1:34pm On Nov 12, 2019
Problemkid1:
I saw the project just now on Citi TV? Well, hope is not a wet dreams like kenya?
nah, it has been put into signatory ....works commence soon. remmeber next year is an election year In Ghana, it will be used as a campaign target ..... that is how Ghana politicians behave .....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:34pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Those are present in every Africa country - I just struggling to understand how a city of 4M plus people can survive with a tiny formal sector. Maybe remittance dollars?
remitance is nothing compare to what the informal sector make
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:35pm On Nov 12, 2019
That is not helpful. That is just Dangote trying to take your gov to cleaners. Concrete roads are 3 times more expensive than Bitumen or Asphalt.

What we need is Ghana true cement production and consumption for 2018 - or better if you have 2019 data.

Not Dangote sell pitch - he has Nigerians even allowing not to pay taxes as he pour concrete on roads. Crazy state capture.

Just30:
help yourself
http://citifmonline.com/2018/01/concrete-roads-absorb-ghanas-surplus-cement-industry/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 1:38pm On Nov 12, 2019
Shma:
This is ironical, lol! smiley
rvp is relaxing is brain too much today. I know him to be smart . he needs to put it to work. you can't just compare kenya to Ghana on what index? maybe safari or tourism. I will easily hands down ...Even at indepence Ghana was known to be economically stable talkless of now when there is oil money..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:40pm On Nov 12, 2019
That is akin to claiming slum economy can sustain a city. Your cities look under-developed - because the informal sector to sustain a formal economy - and therefore the economic figures are questionable - or are being distorted by natural resources (gold, diamond, oil, aluminimum, bauxite) like you find in Gabon. It would appear to me that Ghanians are probably too poor to have a sizeable middle class that can sustain a formal sector.
Just30:
remitance is nothing compare to what the informal sector make

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:40pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
But it's a recent phenomena...I am not sure of Ghana but Nigeria have claimed 50% urbanization for like 30 yrs - the same with electricity access.
all you need is the number of people from both countries that live in the urban environment

and you'll realise that it is still 50%.

whiles urban population growth in both Ghana and Nigeria is driven mainly by migration than new borns growth

In rural areas, the growth of population is driven by new born babies.

so there is a balancing act goin on that keep the figure steady

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