vaxx2:
rvp is relaxing is brain too much today. I know him to be smart . he needs to put it to work. y[b]ou can't just compare kenya to Ghana on what index? maybe safari or tourism.[/b] I will easily hands down ...Even at indepence Ghana was known to be economically stable talkless of now there is oil money..

That means you are the king of west . Big up bro.! But I don't understand the one at bolded.

vaxx2:
That is prediction...pwc current trend says it is 10.000

maybe he wants me to give him the revise figure which is from 2018 to 2023 on their website

I was ready to give Ghana the benefit of dubt until I saw Kumasi and Accra. Yes on face value - Ghana does look good - progressive middle class country - but why isn't the middle class manifesting itself. If you go to South Africa - you don't need stats - to say - this is a middle class country. If you go to Namibia - you don't need to have been even to school to know they are doing good - same with Botswana.

vaxx2:
rvp is relaxing is brain too much today. I know him to be smart . he needs to put it to work. you can't just compare kenya to Ghana on what index? maybe safari or tourism. I will easily hands down ...Even at indepence Ghana was known to be economically stable talkless of now when there is oil money..

vaxx2:
nah, it has been put into signatory ....works commence soon. remmeber next year is an election year In Ghana, it will be used as a campaign target ..... that is how Ghana politicians behave .....

Nice one? Yeah I also watch it when Nana Addo is telling all the governor in Ghana to avoid budget for 2020 election. Something like that? Can't remember anymore!

Well, that's good project from Ghana?

Dude, stop acting like lying typical Nigeria. We expect so much better from Ghanians. It easy. Find us PWC report. And I didn't need to check PWC - I know even Mombasa alone has more branded hotels than Nigeria...

https://www.pwc.co.za/en/assets/pdf/hotels-outlook-19-2023.pdf

Jump to page 54 - 2018 is 20,100 hotels - the rest are projected based on branded hotels under pipelines or under construction.

Just30:
maybe he wants me to give him the revise figure which is from 2018 to 2023 on their website

rvp2018:
Heckling little girl. It was 18K in 2015 - how can current trend be less.

it was never 18K in 2015

the 18K was a projection base on the expectation that it will double.

in 2015, it was almost 7,000

it is expected to reach 10,000 in 2023
https://www.pwc.co.za/en/publications/hospitality-outlook.html

rvp2018:
1) Okay - I thought Gold minning has pretty much overtaken South Africa - so you mean all that is done by small scale miners. I think if you remove the power consumed by Gold, Bauxite, Aluminum - that will leave a lot less for household consumption. I cannot seem to lay my hands on the data...anyway I think there is distortion from mining industry.

2) Urbanization. For a country with 15M (half) urban population - you don't have consumerate cities and towns. I check Accra has 1.5m,Kumasi 1.7m, etc. but you'll admit there has to be a serious housing deficits...because a city of 1M people is huge. Mombasa for reference is about 1.2M people. Nairobi is now 4.4m. So either you statistic is doggy like Nigeria...I noticed the urbanization rate has been 50% for like forever.

3) Immigration. For a country that is growing - you should not be immigrating for opportunities or for education. That right there is contradictory. Your companies should be one immigrating - spinning multinational conglomerates.

Anyway I hope your statistics is not being cooked like Nigeria - and it well turn out --- that outside minning & natural resources - there is nothing to write home about.

Hmmm. ...dive into the data and let us know the anomalies if any. Sometimes, though ishyt doesn't tally 100% not due to conspiracy but errors in tabulation and/or capture.

samorobo:


Lol if just30 should fall this nonsense then I will know he is gullible...You went to PWC websites right? An you copied and pasted from it. Why didn't you attach the link? But rather You replaced it with an archaic source from your country to back it up (it was even talking about plans)....this was the same thing you did to me and tylann fell for it....
My guess is that you have tampered with those figures that is why you don't want to attach the PWC link which you just visited.

this is what PWC is saying

https://www.pwc.co.za/en/publications/hospitality-outlook.html

Kenya branded hotels - about twice what you have in Nigeria. I think about half what is in South Africa.

From your favourite PwC. Now let clutch on another straw before we facts drown you

rvp2018:
I was ready to give Ghana the benefit of dubt until I saw Kumasi and Accra. Yes on face value - Ghana does look good - progressive middle class country - but why isn't the middle class manifesting itself. If you go to South Africa - you don't need stats - to say - this is a middle class country. If you go to Namibia - you don't need to have been even to school to know they are doing good - same with Botswana.

I said development is not what you observed thru screen but on data and information. that is the objective.

for example, Ghana currently enrol 1.2 million of her citizens on free education , free feeding , free boarding on his national pulse. how should I describe that in video or picture?

Ghana currently registered 100 percent of her citizens on free health care delivery. how do I put it in video or pics?

in Ghana over 85 percent of her citizens have access to water and nearly 90 percent of Ghanaian are connected to national grid . how is that explainable thru video or pics ....


there are thing you can just see with your naked eyes unless you experience it. social development is the key anyway

rvp2018:
Why not add it yourself. I only see Ghanacem aiming for 3m. You're being hostile because you are standing on shifting sand as we turn our focus temporarily on Ghana.

no need to argue

ive given you figures

hahaha. You're so shameless. Where in that report does it say Kenya branded rooms are 10K? Unless you confused the revenues 9.5M rands

Just30:
this is what PWC is saying

https://www.pwc.co.za/en/publications/hospitality-outlook.html

rvp2018:
1) I guess my point is still valid - that household electricity consumption per capita - is being distorted by minning - just like you find in South Africa - which has one world highest electricity consumption per capita.

2) You're making it worse - because if Accra had 4m population - then clearly something is wrong with either the city or the stats - coz I have checked couple of pics and videos - and Accra doesn't look like a city of 1m people.

3) Adventure thanks to wealthy Ghanians - would reflect in out-bound tourism. This is more economic refugees. It's hardly anything to be proud of.As you plead with slaves that left Ghana 500yrs ago to return - you need to stop current Ghanians from leaving - mostly forever - abroad. You only see such in war torn countries like Syria, Somalia, Ethiopia, etc. This is called brain and resource drain.

This is a joke I guess

Rvp see you can't capture the aieral view of Accra on a single shot. Its hilly. What Accra lacks in skyline it covers for it with beautiful single homes all over.

Shma:
That means you are the king of west . Big up bro.! But I don't understand the one at bolded.

I mean you guys has perfected safari tourism. Ghana also has Savannah region, we can replicate what you have there?

All that reflect in STANDARD OF LIVING and QUALITY OF LIFE. You don't need my bank account to know I am doing badly or well. Informal sector for example is clearly manifestation of under-development. As people get richer, they drive cars, shop in supermarkets, dine in branded hotels, fly for vacations, send their kids to good schools and buy luxury goods.

vaxx2:
I said development is not what you observed thru screen but on data and information. that is the objective.

for example, Ghana currently enrol 1.2 million of her citizens on free education , free feeding , free boarding on his national pulse. how should I describe that in video or picture?

Ghana currently registered 100 percent of her citizens on free health care delivery. how do I put it in video or pics?

in Ghana over 85 percent of her citizens have access to water and nearly 90 percent of Ghanaian are connected to national grid . how is that explainable thru video or pics ....


there are thing you can just see with your naked eyes unless you experience it. social development is the key anyway

It's intriguing enough. What is not deniable is they are doing well in natural resources - oil plus minning. Outside those sectors I am starting to have my doubts.

kikuyu1:


Hmmm. ...dive into the data and let us know the anomalies if any. Sometimes, though ishyt doesn't tally 100% not due to conspiracy but errors in tabulation and/or capture.

Just30:
Accra is ever-expanding than building high.
No one wants to live in an apartment.
Single owned homes with backyards is an ish here

so you will have farmlands like Ayimensah , Dodowa becoming highly residential areas than apartments in the centre of Accra going up

this kind of development is both good and bad at the same time for the government.

You are right.

In the years to come Accra would have extended into ada.

Problemkid1:
Nice one? Yeah I also watch it when Nana Addo is telling all the governor in Ghana to avoid budget for 2020 election. Something like that? Can't remember anymore!

Well, that's good project from Ghana?

He is advising them to curb unneccasry expenditure in 2020. you know goverment over spend during election year due to emergency development to attract votes....

Cement figures you gave me are not authoritative. They come from similar websites like the one that said cement consumption was 5.2M tonnes.

10M seem highly unlikely. Entire Dangote Cement last year(2018) sold 8.9m in all it's market outside Nigeria- Ghana, Ethiopia, Tanzania.
http://www.dangotecement.com/wp-content/uploads/reports/2019/FY2018/DangoteCement_FY2018_ResultsStatement.pdf

Just30:
no need to argue

ive given you figures

Kazikazi:
Always my point is,your real estate sector don't match with your economic growth, or higher per capita income or your GDP in general. A quick look of Kumasi city comparing with mwanza city in Tz,shows mwanza has a better real estate. Again Tz has a very huge informal sector. But Kumasi with higher population, with higher per capita,with higher hdi,looks worse than mwanza.
Somewhere,somewhat, your stats are questionable. Or Tz is underreporting?

and i have given you proof that it outperforms what you have in Tanzania.


I just cant imagine how a country with twice the population of Ghana is outperformed in real estate demands by Ghana.

That small Dar Es Sallam area you keep posting makes you think you are developed.
Ghana has gone far beyond that.

These days in Ghana, there are villages that you can hardly call villages

rvp2018:
It's intriguing enough. What is not deniable is they are doing well in natural resources - oil plus minning. Outside those sectors I am starting to have my doubts.

You should doubt.Kumasi and Accra don't look like cities from middle income country.I can't mention Tokoradi or tamale.A country like Zambia,has better cities than what u see in Kumasi.
I think Ghana gov is overrating their economic numbers

Okay I think Dangote has the figure.

From his group 2018 results.
http://www.dangotecement.com/wp-content/uploads/reports/2019/FY2018/DangoteCement_FY2018_ResultsStatement.pdf

Ghana
With per-capita consumption of about 213kg/person and total demand of more than 6Mt in 2018, Ghana
is an attractive market for cement in West Africa. Its economy is strong and this is driving housing and
infrastructure growth across the country.

rvp2018:
All that reflect in STANDARD OF LIVING and QUALITY OF LIFE. You don't need my bank account to know I am doing badly or well. Informal sector for example is clearly manifestation of under-development. As people get richer, they drive cars, shop in supermarkets, dine in branded hotels, fly for vacations, send their kids to good schools and buy luxury goods.

Actually you are wrong.....

Often “informal” businesses are highly skilled and professional. Go check the trend in China and India. how informal sector is growing. The only differencei from formal sector is that they do their business outside goverment influence which means that they do not comply with regulatory requirements of which tax compliance is the most important one. which also means that they are often more profitable that their more formal counterparts. in Nigeria/ Ghana informal sector buisness owmer are the big boys . that is why you can used our minimum wage to judge our standard of living.

Just30:
and i have given you proof that it outperforms what you have in Tanzania.


I just cant imagine how a country with twice the population of Ghana is outperformed in real estate demands by Ghana.

That small Dar Es Sallam area you keep posting makes you think you are developed.
Ghana has gone far beyond that.

These days in Ghana, there are villages that you can hardly call villages

bro.relax

How does hotel in pipeline help your case. Nigeria has had good growth (20% CAR) in branded hotels - while Kenya is doing around 10% CAR - but Nigeria basically is being from a very small base. I think Mombasa alone has more branded hotels than entire Nigeria.

68816419:

Keep deluding your self, Why not show us what Nigeria got as well,

rvp2018:
How can installed capacity of 12m produce 15m metric tonnes?. I think you need to find us more credible data than some Dangote cement lobbyist trying to commit Ghana gov to expensive concrete roads like they are doing in Nigeria. Concrete roads are too expensive for Ghana or Nigeria.

Because those are 2018 figures whiles consumption was 8 million metric tonnes


Since then,more cement factories have come online

and after those 2018 figures,

this factory launched and brought onboard 2.6 million metric tonnes
https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/business/Cement-prices-to-fall-as-Dzata-Cement-starts-production-in-December-676542

Just30:
and i have given you proof that it outperforms what you have in Tanzania.


I just cant imagine how a country with twice the population of Ghana is outperformed in real estate demands by Ghana.

That small Dar Es Sallam area you keep posting makes you think you are developed.
Ghana has gone far beyond that.

These days in Ghana, there are villages that you can hardly call villages

I find that hard to believe. I think as country become rich - it starts looking rich - organized - formal. Officially Ghana gdp per capita is about 3000 - just a few dollars to join middle class nation - and it doesn't look the part.

Opps I think GDP per capita is 2000 or around - well no need to sweat it. That is about right.

vaxx2:
Actually you are wrong.....
Often “informal” businesses are highly skilled and professional. Go check the trend in China and India. how informal sector is growing. The only differencei from formal sector is that they do their business outside goverment influence which means that they do not comply with regulatory requirements of which tax compliance is the most important one. which also means that they are often more profitable that their more formal counterparts. in Nigeria/ Ghana informal sector buisness owmer are the big boys . that is why you can used our minimum wage to judge our standard of living.

rvp2018:
It's intriguing enough. What is not deniable is they are doing well in natural resources - oil plus minning. Outside those sectors I am starting to have my doubts.

Lol. what about agricture which is the main pillar of Ghana economy. what about the new trend in tourism... guy cast your doubt maturely ...just ask when You don't know

Just30:
and i have given you proof that it outperforms what you have in Tanzania.


I just cant imagine how a country with twice the population of Ghana is outperformed in real estate demands by Ghana.

That small Dar Es Sallam area you keep posting makes you think you are developed.
Ghana has gone far beyond that.

These days in Ghana, there are villages that you can hardly call villages

No proof given.Most African governments are cheating their figures.You can't say Dar es salaam is small.If u want comparisons, u are welcome.But no gov figures,just bring pics or videos for proof.
I can't accept the lies of a country with huge middle class but there are no real estate owned by same middle class.
I don't know what u have done ahead of Dar. Do u have skyscrapers more than Dar?More residential homes than Dar? Better hospitals than those in Dar?Better hotels? Better marine transportation than Dar? Better golf courses? Better public transport?

Actually I was wasting my time and energy - Ghana is just poor country like kenya. It has roughly same GDP per capita - about 2,200?

vaxx2:
Lol. what about agricture which is the main pillar of Ghana economy. what about the new trend in tourism... guy cast your doubt maturely ...just ask when You don't know