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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 4:04pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
Just30:The guy is just arguing blindly 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:05pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
kikuyu1:you can bring it for discussion |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:05pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
You keep jumping. 10M metric I haven't seen. The website you gave me quote a cement industry lobbyist talking about 8M. It easy - your Ghanian Stat office surely have such data. In the meanitme I am going for Dangote quote figures - 6M metric tonnes with per capita consumption of 230 or about kgs. Just30: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:06pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:and what is consumed is 10 million plus out of 15 million produced per annum |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:08pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
And you do that mostly from oil & minning industry. I don't think you understand Kenya economy. If Nigeria - is sweating - poor Ghana will not even attempt to compete with Kenya. Projected tax revenues for this year - ordinary taxes will be 16-18B dollars. That is twice what Ghana will collect. And we don't have any oil or gold or alumiminum.Non-ordinary taxes will be 4B dollars! Our budget is 30B dollars - we spend about 5B dollars in education. Your free school and double track is not even worth half a billion dollar ![]() Kenya is not Ghana mate. You're too small a potato. Nigeria is already down and out. vaxx2: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 4:08pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
samorobo:point of correction sir, real estate sector in kenya is DIEING not dwindling. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:10pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
Now you're totally confused. Installed capacity is just installed capacity. It not produced. I want to give you a simple assignment. Find me Ghana 2018 cement production and consumption. Tips - these figures Ghana National Stats Body will definitely have. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:11pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
What make you think a few yahoo boys in Ghana have more money than informal sector say in kenya - a kenya that is corruption & drug haven. Let me tell you a typical traffic police in Kenya - has millions of Kshs - in black economy. My cousin is a cop - his daily target is 200 dollars - he is just a police constable.Kenya black economy is huge but hardly something to be proud about. The average kenyan pays 45 bribes annually - but country remain a thriving swarm of corrupt - so much Ghana vision 2030 is to be like Nairobi in 2010. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:19pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:Ghana is doing 20% tax to GDP which is still an underperformance by our standard |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:23pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
Not true - you're doing 17-18% like Kenya - that is about the average for the level of you underdevelopment. South Africa being a middle class do 25%. Scandinavian countries taxes to their bones - do around 50% - and that the highest. What is % contribution of extraction sector to that tax revenues. That will help determine if you're another Nigeria or not that depend 90-95% on Oil. Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:23pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:Ghana does not rebase ever 5 years |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 4:24pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:Guy you are sick Walahi ......who is talking about bribing. the guys is referring you to how much money made on informal sectlr outside formal works... what Ghana has achieved for its people, kenya can only dream of it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:24pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
Check again. I am not sure what pressure was - maybe to get out debt/gdp problems with IMF? You re-based as recently as 2018 - leading to 25% GDP jump. https://allafrica.com/stories/201810010595.html Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 4:24pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:hey poop! That Kenya is too poor to afford it, doesn't mean other Countries that have the money, cannot. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:25pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:Have you asked yourself why your population declined? and your per capital is still lower |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:28pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
I am talking about part of the informal sector - black economy - why would somebody avoid banking the money - if he was living large ![]() What has Ghana achieved for it's people that kenya can only dream about? vaxx2: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:29pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:All monies made from oil royalties do not form part of Ghana tax revenues since they are allocated to two different accounts as required by law. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:30pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
Population didn't decline. 52M was projected by some folks. Our pop increased from 38M to 47.5m in 10yrs. The annual growth declined from 2.9% to 2.2% because we are aggressively implementing family planning. You per capita jumped because you recently re-based - growing your per-capita by 25%. When we re-base too in 2022 - we might get another 25% jump - and surpass Ghana. Just30: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:31pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
So does it get budgeted? Just30: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:36pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
Just30, Ghana aggressively re-based as it was put into IMF 'emergency' room after getting into debt spiral & currency devaluation. For the second time in less than 10 years Ghana’s GDP has seen a huge increase as a result of a change in the base year used in the calculation. https://www.ceditalk.com/2018/10/ghanas-rebased-gdp-explained/ In 2010, the base year used for Ghana’s GDP calculation was changed from 1993 to 2006. The country’s GDP jumped by 60% and the services sector was recognized as the largest contributor to GDP, replacing Agriculture. The recent change of the base year from 2006 to 2013 has resulted in a 24.6% jump in GDP to GH¢256 billion. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:37pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:i guess the Ghana 2019 budget is there for you to read. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:37pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
I guess it not suppose to be confidential otherwise I might have done something illegal. Just30: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 4:37pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:The articule report Kenya are employed for the first time in such multinational company. yes the CEO. that is impossible down west africa not even ivory coast ( a fully foreing oriented country will take it). When it comes to the matter of education aborad , You are no where to be found bro. I personally had my education in about three different countries.... statistics presently prove Nigerians lead in sub Saharan Africa on student educating abroad( This include but league in Usa and Oxbridge and its first tiers in UK) . follow closely by Ghana..... You just don't have the money to go for such education.... When it comes to international academician, You need to go check statistics. do you have any recognised figure both in education or science sector that is making wave globally? ... there is reason bank of Ghana governor was recently appointed as the chairman of IMF. guy coming to the international scheme of life . kenya is far backward. statistics from America shows Ghana and Nigeria are holding position in formal sector than Any sub Saharan country from africa. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 4:39pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
vaxx2:have u been there before? Did u use ur korokoro eyes to witness d emboldened? All these depiction of opinions as d reality sef. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 4:40pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
theenchanter:The evidence are available online |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:41pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:Actually the mining sector may not be felt by the communities that those resources are mined in, But their contribution helps the national economy which is felt by all Ghanaians. so i can say that the mining sector is felt by all Ghanaians |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:41pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
1) The company you read is Safaricom - 12Billion dollars BEHEMOTH - that is worth all listed Ghana companies. Dangote Grp is worth 11B dollars. Safaricom revenues approaching 3B dollars...and it pay taxes & dividend now approaching 1B dollars. 2) Education - I don't know where Ghana leads - but Kenya was leading in student numbers in US & UK - until we started fixing our universities last decade. 3) You ignorance of anything outside Nigeria & Ghana is very transparent. vaxx2: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 4:44pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:Guy stop being stupid . how can you be quoting blogs as evidence. Are you mad ? no one is an illiterate here 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:48pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
The basic rules of sound argumentation. If you dispute my source - bring another more credible source. I am surprised you went to 3 universities and never got the basic of right thinking humanbeing...were you that dense? I know for a fact Ghana re-based aggressively -esp the 2018 one was just curious - because they had re-based with everyone around 2012/2014 - when Nigerian suddenly became 500B dollar behemoth. Why would Ghana be in hurry to re-base without any significant data like census or major HH - apart from gov desperation to get out of IMF emergency facility - ![]() vaxx2: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 4:48pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
vaxx2:some things are better heard from d people in order to get d right information..... not through d internet. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kennyswagz2: 4:49pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
Problemkid1:accra that is a shithole.. take this ghanians serious at you own peril... 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 4:49pm On Nov 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:1 You see why i called you an idiot. how can a 12 billion dollar worth be more than listed Ghana companies. how much is the total value of kenya stock exchange. Ghana currently have in excess of 25 billion dollar and more 2. I repeat stastical available shows that you are highly ignorant when it comes to matter of educating in both ivy leagues and Oxbridge. kenya are no where to be found. I will not spoon feed you . but anybody can go online to dispute me. 3. Your level of education is highly pseudo. you don't based conclusion on blogs like a road side economics . I am gonna correct that your pseudo revenue claim as soon as I get home 1 Like 1 Share |
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