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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 4:50pm On Nov 12, 2019
theenchanter:
some things are better heard from d people in order to get d right information..... not through d internet.
ok..... grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 4:52pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
The basic rules of sound argumentation. If you dispute my source - bring another more credible source. I am surprised you went to 3 universities and never got the basic of right thinking humanbeing...were you that dense?

I know for a fact Ghana re-based aggressively -esp the 2018 one was just curious - because they had re-based with everyone around 2012/2014 - when Nigerian suddenly became 500B dollar behemoth.

Why would Ghana be in hurry to re-base without any significant data like census or major HH - apart from gov desperation to get out of IMF emergency facility - smiley

Only idiot like you post blogs as evidence . and you want me to disprove blog base on factual evidence. I am not that daft like you.

If you want to be sensible, Use quoted authority reference and get educated. you can be this way stupid . how do you used blog and called it fact . you aren't normal I swear

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:55pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
You keep jumping. 10M metric I haven't seen. The website you gave me quote a cement industry lobbyist talking about 8M. It easy - your Ghanian Stat office surely have such data. In the meanitme I am going for Dangote quote figures - 6M metric tonnes with per capita consumption of 230 or about kgs.
The person my publication quoted was not a lobbyist but the regulatory authority.



You can't seem to accept is because it will exposed your underdevelopment
grin grin grin grin
Dont worry, Ghana is still building it cement factories to produce more cement for consumption

even sales from GHACEM diamond and Cimaf alone is 8 million metric tonnes

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:59pm On Nov 12, 2019
1) Nigeria stock exchange is worth 30-40B dollars. Ghana is worth 61-65B cedis - which about 11B dollars. Kenya is the one that is worth 25B dollars.

2) Your anecdotal evidence cannot triumph empirical evidence. Just because you never saw or meet kenyans - doesn't mean they don't exist.

For example Kenya use to lead in Africa sending 7,000 to US - but the number has now declined as we fixed our local universities - and save our dollars - now we send about 3,000 - with Nigeria leading at 9,000.


vaxx2:
1 You see why i called you an idiot. how can a 12 billion dollar worth listed on Ghana companies. how much is the total value of kenya stock exchange. Ghana currently have in excess of 25 billion dollar and more


2. I repeat stastical available shows that you are highly ignorant when it comes to matter of educating in both ivy leagues amd Oxbridge. kenya are no where to be found. I will not spoon feed . but anybody can go online to dispute me.


3. Your level of education is highly pseudo. you don't based conclusion on blogs like a road economics . I am gonna remitted that revenue claim as soon as I get home


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:01pm On Nov 12, 2019
Evidence....simple...of Ghana cement production and consumption...is not rocket science. You're beginning to sound like Nigerians. Getting facts out is like pulling teeths.
Just30:
The person my publication quoted was not a lobbyist but the regulatory authority.
You can't seem to accept is because it will exposed your underdevelopment
grin grin grin grin
Dont worry, Ghana is still building it cement factories to produce more cement for consumption

even sales from GHACEM diamond and Cimaf alone is 8 million metric tonnes

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 5:02pm On Nov 12, 2019
Kennyswagz2:
accra that is a shithole.. take this ghanians serious at you own peril...
Bro chill nah grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:03pm On Nov 12, 2019
This is not academic journal. This is forum where prima-facia evidence is enough to pass. Evidence is Ghana re-based twice in 10yrs. The first saw a GDP jump of 60% and the last curious one saw 25%. Tanzania also did the same. The last one saw 3% jump. They were also equally desperate.
vaxx2:
Only idiot like you post blogs as evidence . and you want me to disprove blog base on factual evidence. I am not that daft like you.

If you want to be sensible, Use quoted authority reference and get educated. you can be this way stupid . how do you used blog and called it fact . you aren't normal I swear

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kennyswagz2: 5:10pm On Nov 12, 2019
Problemkid1:
Bro chill nah grin grin grin
bro the way they hype that shithole, you will think it is newyork...
I have some friends in that Ghanagringrin... even use Google map or browse for Accra pictures to seegringrin
Shithole city gringrin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:11pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
And you do that mostly from oil & minning industry. I don't think you understand Kenya economy. If Nigeria - is sweating - poor Ghana will not even attempt to compete with Kenya.

Projected tax revenues for this year - ordinary taxes will be 16-18B dollars. That is twice what Ghana will collect. And we don't have any oil or gold or alumiminum.Non-ordinary taxes will be 4B dollars!

Our budget is 30B dollars - we spend about 5B dollars in education. Your free school and double track is not even worth half a billion dollar smiley

Kenya is not Ghana mate. You're too small a potato. Nigeria is already down and out.

Ghana's 2019 budget plus supplementary budget adds up to 180 billion dollars for 2019


Ghana spends 3 billion dollars on health and 2.5 billion dollars on education.


Comparing Kenya to Ghana is laughable

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:14pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Now you're totally confused. Installed capacity is just installed capacity. It not produced. I want to give you a simple assignment. Find me Ghana 2018 cement production and consumption.

Tips - these figures Ghana National Stats Body will definitely have.

i have already given you a report which has Ghana consumption and production for 2018 in it

i cant believe you are still asking
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 5:15pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
This is not academic journal. This is forum where prima-facia evidence is enough to pass. Evidence is Ghana re-based twice in 10yrs. The first saw a GDP jump of 60% and the last curious one saw 25%. Tanzania also did the same. The last one saw 3% jump. They were also equally desperate.
You are dumb I swear, So because we aren't in academic setting means will should reproduce road side economics talk like you are doing here The performance of the government in revenue collection, capital spending, external debt and budgeting has also improved. And you stupidly want them to maintain the old data when new sectors of the economy such as telecommunications, movies, oil and retail are improving? what a karikashor brain do you have ?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:20pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
What make you think a few yahoo boys in Ghana have more money than informal sector say in kenya - a kenya that is corruption & drug haven. Let me tell you a typical traffic police in Kenya - has millions of Kshs - in black economy. My cousin is a cop - his daily target is 200 dollars - he is just a police constable.Kenya black economy is huge but hardly something to be proud about. The average kenyan pays 45 bribes annually - but country remain a thriving swarm of corrupt - so much Ghana vision 2030 is to be like Nairobi in 2010.
an informal economy is not the same as a black economy

a black economy is an illegal economy.


Your arguments are getting funny and based on innuendoes
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 5:22pm On Nov 12, 2019
Kennyswagz2:
bro the way they hype that shithole, you will think it is newyork...
I have some friends in that Ghanagringrin... even use Google map or browse for Accra pictures to seegringrin
Shithole city gringrin
Hahahaha you have said it all bro grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 5:27pm On Nov 12, 2019
Carmit:

Happy you understand bro.
One Africa! grin
There's no time in history where Africa was never one,check the map and you'll see there's no physical division grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:30pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Not true - you're doing 17-18% like Kenya - that is about the average for the level of you underdevelopment. South Africa being a middle class do 25%. Scandinavian countries taxes to their bones - do around 50% - and that the highest.

What is % contribution of extraction sector to that tax revenues.

That will help determine if you're another Nigeria or not that depend 90-95% on Oil.

you are not making sense

so the extractive sectors are no more part of the economy?
The extractive sectors

the largest tax paying sector is the telecommunication sector in Ghana.

Ghana's 2019 ratio has grown from 18.3% to 20% whiles Kenya has improve from 15% to 18.1%.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:32pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Check again. I am not sure what pressure was - maybe to get out debt/gdp problems with IMF? You re-based as recently as 2018 - leading to 25% GDP jump.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201810010595.html
Ghana had to rebase because a greater part of the economy was not captured in the previous rebasing
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 5:33pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
1) Nigeria stock exchange is worth 30-40B dollars. Ghana is worth 61-65B cedis - which about 11B dollars. Kenya is the one that is worth 25B dollars.

2) Your anecdotal evidence cannot triumph empirical evidence. Just because you never saw or meet kenyans - doesn't mean they don't exist.

For example Kenya use to lead in Africa sending 7,000 to US - but the number has now declined as we fixed our local universities - and save our dollars - now we send about 3,000 - with Nigeria leading at 9,000.


if i ask you for evidence of your karikashor report, you will foolishly quote one blogs there. Get a life, you are talking to west africa citizens , we scrutinized information here before digesting it. any road side economics report is taken on peril.... lets check out statistics we can do it here.... show me emperical evidence of your report , and I will easily hands down . Ghana has more than one capital market and therefore using single capital market to judge Ghana is influenced by stupidity. you actually don't know.

2 I have met a kenya dude , he is paying huge cash schooling in ashesi university in Ghana. we even still communicate on Facebook once in a while. but I have meet many more Ethiopians than you lots and I have never meet a Tanzania


3... I have correct you , student schooling aborad from west Africa is based on prestige and not because we don't get good school . you can't afford doing that. check online report you are way behind Ghana.....you can't just try it where is the money?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:33pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
Ghana's 2019 budget plus supplementary budget adds up to 180 billion dollars for 2019


Ghana spends 3 billion dollars on health and 2.5 billion dollars on education.


Comparing Kenya to Ghana is laughable
Say that again..this time slowly 180 billion dollars.You budget is not even 15b dollars.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:37pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
I am talking about part of the informal sector - black economy - why would somebody avoid banking the money - if he was living large smiley.

What has Ghana achieved for it's people that kenya can only dream about?

AN informal economy is not a black economy

dont get confused.


Need i send you to the standard of living for both countries or the HDI

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:37pm On Nov 12, 2019
The last refuge of a scoundrel is base insults and adhomimnem
vaxx2:
if i ask you for evidence of your karikashor report, you will foolishly quote one blogs there. Get a life, you are talking tonwesr africa citizens , we scrutinized information here before digesting it. any road side economics report is taken on peril.... lets check out statistics we can do it here.... show me emperical evidence of your report , and I will easily hands down . Ghana has more than one capital market and therefore using single capital market to judge Ghana is influenced by stupidity. you actually don't know.

2 I have met a kenya dude , he is paying huge cash schooling in ashesi university in Ghana. we even still communicate on Facebook once in a while. but I have meet many more Ethiopians than you lots and I have never meet a Tanzania


3... I have correct you , student schooling aborad from west Africa is based on prestige and not because we don't get good school . you can't afford doing that. check online report you are way behind Ghana.....you can't just try it where is the money?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:39pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Population didn't decline. 52M was projected by some folks. Our pop increased from 38M to 47.5m in 10yrs. The annual growth declined from 2.9% to 2.2% because we are aggressively implementing family planning.

You per capita jumped because you recently re-based - growing your per-capita by 25%.

When we re-base too in 2022 - we might get another 25% jump - and surpass Ghana.

by 2022 do you know what the per capita of Ghana will be?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 5:40pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
The last refuge of a scoundrel is base insults and adhomimnem
You should know i insult pseudo intellectual like you. you pised me off

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:40pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
you are not making sense

so the extractive sectors are no more part of the economy?
The extractive sectors

the largest tax paying sector is the telecommunication sector in Ghana.

Ghana's 2019 ratio has grown from 18.3% to 20% whiles Kenya has improve from 15% to 18.1%.
With your reading it got worse.kenya had hovered around 17-20%.Never 15%.Yours now is 15% after rebasing
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 5:40pm On Nov 12, 2019
In 2018,Safaricom's net profit was about 550,000,000m USD!
vaxx2:
How much is that in dollars, Just give me the rough estimate ...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:42pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
So does it get budgeted?
it gets budgeted for in a different vehicle which cannot be spent unless the conditions set out for it usage are met

it is more like a reserve than a revenue
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:45pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Just30,

Ghana aggressively re-based as it was put into IMF 'emergency' room after getting into debt spiral & currency devaluation.

For the second time in less than 10 years Ghana’s GDP has seen a huge increase as a result of a change in the base year used in the calculation.
https://www.ceditalk.com/2018/10/ghanas-rebased-gdp-explained/

In 2010, the base year used for Ghana’s GDP calculation was changed from 1993 to 2006. The country’s GDP jumped by 60% and the services sector was recognized as the largest contributor to GDP, replacing Agriculture. The recent change of the base year from 2006 to 2013 has resulted in a 24.6% jump in GDP to GH¢256 billion.
hope you note the reasons why the economy had to be rebased.



it may be rebased soon as the government is busy roping in more part of the informal economy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 5:45pm On Nov 12, 2019
Well, our education budget is nearing 5 billion US dollars!
Just30:
Ghana's 2019 budget plus supplementary budget adds up to 180 billion dollars for 2019


Ghana spends 3 billion dollars on health and 2.5 billion dollars on education.


Comparing Kenya to Ghana is laughable
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:45pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
I guess it not suppose to be confidential otherwise I might have done something illegal.
it is not confidential as you can easily access it online
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:51pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
You should know i insult pseudo intellectual like you. you pised me off
I am not an intellectual of any shade.I am a software engineer if you must know.Clearly your puny brain is overheating so I should spare it
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:53pm On Nov 12, 2019
Kennyswagz2:
accra that is a shithole.. take this ghanians serious at you own peril...
here comes the dumb kid casting his inflated egos again
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:56pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
hope you note the reasons why the economy had to be rebased.



it may be rebased soon as the government is busy roping in more part of the informal economy
How do you know it's time to rebase? where is data coming from? countries in developed world conduct census or huge national household or economic surveys every 5yr..Ghana cannot afford it..so what the basis for rebasing aggressively? I think 10yrs would work for the level of your underdevelopment

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 5:58pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
And you do that mostly from oil & minning industry. I don't think you understand Kenya economy. If Nigeria - is sweating - poor Ghana will not even attempt to compete with Kenya.

Projected tax revenues for this year - ordinary taxes will be 16-18B dollars. That is twice what Ghana will collect. And we don't have any oil or gold or alumiminum.Non-ordinary taxes will be 4B dollars!

Our budget is 30B dollars - we spend about 5B dollars in education. Your free school and double track is not even worth half a billion dollar smiley

Kenya is not Ghana mate. You're too small a potato. Nigeria is already down and out.

You are abnormal I swear. just for the year 2019, Ghana is spending about over 11. 2 billion Ghana cedis on education with additional supplement....and do you know how much is that ? . it is nearly 4 billion dollars. your economy will collapsed doing that.... how much is your total budget on education? what Ghana budget on education is what you guys are projecting toward 2020 which is 400 billion kenya shilling. that is roughly 4 billion dollars .

Ghana budget coupled with supplement will sink your entire GDP. . we are talking in excess of 50 billion dollar here and that is 2019....


When you show me your tax to revenue income, i will hands down as of now . you guys are just dalm poor

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