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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:00pm On Nov 12, 2019
Here!
Where is your evidence for Ghana 4 billion dollar education budget?
vaxx2:
You are abnormal I swear. just for the year 2019, Ghana is spending about over 11. 1 billion Ghana cedis on education with additional supplement....and do you know how much is that ? . it is nearly 4 billion dollars. your economy will collapsed doing that.... how much is your total budget on education? what Ghana budget on education is what you guys are projecting toward 2020 which is 400 billion kenya shilling. that is roughly 4 billion dollars .

Ghana budget coupled with supplement will sink your entire GDP. can you just . we are talking in excess of 50 billion dollar here and that is 2019....


When you show me your tax to revenue income, i will hands down as of now . you guys are just dalm poor

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:01pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
I am not an intellectual of any shade.I am a software engineer if you must know.Clearly your puny brain is overheating so I should spare it
So software engineering who couldn't make use of its intellect on factual evidence from internet. is that one an engineer? abeg park well
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:04pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
Here!
Where is your evidence for Ghana 4 billion dollar education budget?
The screenshot you posted is the projection for the year 2019/ 2020. has it been implemented yet....



This is for Ghana...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:06pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Evidence....simple...of Ghana cement production and consumption...is not rocket science. You're beginning to sound like Nigerians. Getting facts out is like pulling teeths.
Since you dont want to read

i will highlight the important part for you on the 2018 consumption level

Cement manufacturing companies in Ghana are appealing to government to quickly implement a policy which will ensure that all roads in the country are made of concrete.

According to them this will help consume the surplus cement in the country as well as sustain their operations.

Figures available from the cement monitoring committee show that Ghana consumes about 8 million metric tons of cement annually.

This consumption level is less than the production estimated at 12 million metric tons.


Speaking to Citi Business News on the matter, a member of the Cement Monitoring Committee, Mr. Sammy Amegayibor said President Akufo Addo who had earlier made mention of such a policy, should ensure that it is put into force to sustain the country’s cement industry.

“The total installed capacity will come to about twelve million metric tonnes, this is more than what Ghana needs for the cement industry. I mean there will have to be a way to export some of the products if all of them want to sustain business, I remember the President himself in one of his addresses to the public said that one of the policies that government will bring up to consume the surplus cement was to ensure roads projects are done using a lot of cement material”.

Mr Amegayibor stressed that should government see to the implementation of such a policy the cement industry will continue to grow, “If we live by it, that will be the best way to ensure that the cement industry is sustained”.

He added, “I mean after all, this industry creates jobs for several hundred thousands of people and so if they want to sustain business and continue to produce then there has to be a deliberate policy attempt to consume the cement that is produced”.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Carmit(m): 6:06pm On Nov 12, 2019
JaceBlaze:
There's no time in history where Africa was never one,check the map and you'll see there's no physical division grin
Lol....
That's why I typed one africa Bro grin
Africans have and always will remain one! grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:09pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
This is not academic journal. This is forum where prima-facia evidence is enough to pass. Evidence is Ghana re-based twice in 10yrs. The first saw a GDP jump of 60% and the last curious one saw 25%. Tanzania also did the same. The last one saw 3% jump. They were also equally desperate.
you mean Ghana rebase twice in 13 years

i will say that is fair especially when a huge part of your economy you can currently capture was not captured.

Have you asked yourself why the economy jumped by 25%.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:10pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
You are abnormal I swear. just for the year 2019, Ghana is spending about over 11. 1 billion Ghana cedis on education with additional supplement....and do you know how much is that ? . it is nearly 4 billion dollars. your economy will collapsed doing that.... how much is your total budget on education? what Ghana budget on education is what you guys are projecting toward 2020 which is 400 billion kenya shilling. that is roughly 4 billion dollars .

Ghana budget coupled with supplement will sink your entire GDP. . we are talking in excess of 50 billion dollar here and that is 2019....


When you show me your tax to revenue income, i will hands down as of now . you guys are just dalm poor
Only in Ghana do folks add budget plus suplimentary.In norrmal country suplimentary budget is a revised budget.11B cedis is about 2B dollars.Ghana is small potato

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:10pm On Nov 12, 2019
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/datahub/Education-sector-set-for-biggest-rise-in-budget-funds/3815418-4944852-xhsey3/index.html


In 2018/2019 it was at 442 billion,in 2019/2020 it is projected to be at 473 billion shillings!
vaxx2:
The screenshot you posted is the projection for the year 2019/ 2020. has it been implemented yet....



This is for Ghana...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:10pm On Nov 12, 2019
Kennyswagz2:
bro the way they hype that shithole, you will think it is newyork...
I have some friends in that Ghanagringrin... even use Google map or browse for Accra pictures to seegringrin
Shithole city gringrin
hehe

you wont get Accra pics on goolge

most of what you'll see are pics from 2000 to 2008
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:13pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
if i ask you for evidence of your karikashor report, you will foolishly quote one blogs there. Get a life, you are talking to west africa citizens , we scrutinized information here before digesting it. any road side economics report is taken on peril.... lets check out statistics we can do it here.... show me emperical evidence of your report , and I will easily hands down . Ghana has more than one capital market and therefore using single capital market to judge Ghana is influenced by stupidity. you actually don't know.

2 I have met a kenya dude , he is paying huge cash schooling in ashesi university in Ghana. we even still communicate on Facebook once in a while. but I have meet many more Ethiopians than you lots and I have never meet a Tanzania


3... I have correct you , student schooling aborad from west Africa is based on prestige and not because we don't get good school . you can't afford doing that. check online report you are way behind Ghana.....you can't just try it where is the money?
dont mind him


I thought he said
number of students schooling in better schools shows how rich a society is

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:13pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Say that again..this time slowly 180 billion dollars.You budget is not even 15b dollars.
sorry i mean 18 billion dollars
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:14pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
hehe

you wont get Accra pics on goolge

most of what you'll see are pics from 2000 to 2008
Who died? The photographer? Reality might be the town itself died

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:14pm On Nov 12, 2019
Is this your education budget? THat's 11 billion cedis?
vaxx2:
The screenshot you posted is the projection for the year 2019/ 2020. has it been implemented yet....



This is for Ghana...

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:14pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Say that again..this time slowly 180 billion dollars.You budget is not even 15b dollars.
the first budget submitted for 2019 is 15 billion dollars whiles the reviewed one for mid year pushes it to 18 billion dollars
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:15pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Only in Ghana do folks add budget plus suplimentary.In norrmal country suplimentary budget is a revised budget.11B cedis is about 2B dollars.Ghana is small potato
I just said your country will collapsed spending that . they understand why such amount is shifted to 2019/ 2020. . Anyway 11 billion cedis is far more than 2 billion. what Ghana spends on school feeding which is in excess of 200 million cedis that is roughly above 40 million dollars. it will reduce your poverty level....


proactive country can allocate supplement budget if needs arises. Your country will damm crumble doing that

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:17pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
With your reading it got worse.kenya had hovered around 17-20%.Never 15%.Yours now is 15% after rebasing
Kenya ratio was 15% in 2017

the facts are there
Ghana's ratio has never been below 18% since 2015 or so
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:18pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
the first budget submitted for 2019 is 15 billion dollars whiles the reviewed one for mid year pushes it to 18 billion dollars
So you already have a revised budget this early.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:18pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
In 2018,Safaricom's net profit was about 550,000,000m USD!
is that the biggest company in Kenya?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:18pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
Is this your education budget? THat's 11 billion cedis?
You quoted an application to-do blog. you forget so quickly the diffrence trend in exchange rate. Ghana cedis has lost over 7 percent of its value this year. As at the time of the budget . the cash is slightly above 2 billion dollar and above

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:18pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
is that the biggest company in Kenya?
Yes that is it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:19pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
Well, our education budget is nearing 5 billion US dollars!
kul for you

you need that boost
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:20pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
Kenya ratio was 15% in 2017

the facts are there
Ghana's ratio has never been below 18% since 2015 or so
Big lie.Your rebased GDP is 70B.You ordinary tax 8B.Total revenues 11B.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:24pm On Nov 12, 2019
It was 18.5 percent in 2018 as per this report.We ought to be somewhere 20 percent,this is not good!

https://www.oecd.org/countries/kenya/revenue-statistics-africa-kenya.pdf
Just30:
Kenya ratio was 15% in 2017

the facts are there
Ghana's ratio has never been below 18% since 2015 or so
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:24pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
How do you know it's time to rebase? where is data coming from? countries in developed world conduct census or huge national household or economic surveys every 5yr..Ghana cannot afford it..so what the basis for rebasing aggressively? I think 10yrs would work for the level of your underdevelopment

The stats came from the ministry of finance, tourism and the trade ministry
Those economic stats give them a better view to note that it was a disservice keeping the previous values.

you dont need an entire survey to carry out a rebasing when sectorial surveys are available for the purpose you intend to carry out.
Institutions like CDD and Imani carry out surveys evey two years.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:25pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
dont mind him


I thought he said
number of students schooling in better schools shows how rich a society is
It is even more appealing when you check poverty rate in kenya?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:29pm On Nov 12, 2019
Sadly,it's never enough.Money has never been enough! We spend the same on per capita terms with Czech republic,Hungary and Bulgaria but we lag behind them. rvp2018 in some scenarios,Africa shouldn't be our benchmark,we should learn how Hungary,Bulgaria and Czech Republic are doing it.

For instance, the report says, many countries such as Hungary, the Czech Republic and Bulgaria with similar levels of per student spending as Kenya have achieved higher completion rates in secondary schools compared to Kenya.

“A cross-country comparison between spending per secondary student (in per capita GDP percentage terms) and secondary completion rates shows that given what Kenya spends, there is room to obtain higher outcomes in terms


If we choose not to be wasteful,we can even be better. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Kenyans-are-not-getting-value-for-tax/539546-5242050-ckjws8z/index.html

Just30:
kul for you

you need that boost

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:30pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:


The stats came from the ministry of finance, tourism and the trade ministry
Those economic stats give them a better view to note that it was a disservice keeping the previous values.

you dont need an entire survey to carry out a rebasing when sectorial surveys are available for the purpose you intend to carry out.
Institutions like CDD and Imani carry out surveys evey two years.
I highly doubt figure produce in Kenya. most of the body dashing out figure are basically goverment funded. there may be some corruption elsewhere as history shows kenya goverment is highly corrupt . I challenged them to produce any recognised independent research in Kenya that has validate goverment work and it is also acknowledgable...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:32pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:


The stats came from the ministry of finance, tourism and the trade ministry
Those economic stats give them a better view to note that it was a disservice keeping the previous values.

you dont need an entire survey to carry out a rebasing when sectorial surveys are available for the purpose you intend to carry out.
Institutions like CDD and Imani carry out surveys evey two years.
You finance ministry need a wriggle room from Credit rating, IMF and Eurobond hence the rebasing

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:33pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Only in Ghana do folks add budget plus suplimentary.In norrmal country suplimentary budget is a revised budget.11B cedis is about 2B dollars.Ghana is small potato
Ghana read two budgets almost every year because whiles government may not want to overspend, the demands can be overwhelming such that in most cases it has to revise
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 6:34pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
What make you think a few yahoo boys in Ghana have more money than informal sector say in kenya - a kenya that is corruption & drug haven. Let me tell you a typical traffic police in Kenya - has millions of Kshs - in black economy. My cousin is a cop - his daily target is 200 dollars - he is just a police constable.Kenya black economy is huge but hardly something to be proud about. The average kenyan pays 45 bribes annually - but country remain a thriving swarm of corrupt - so much Ghana vision 2030 is to be like Nairobi in 2010.

I know of a retired senior cop who is a political broker/fixer. That nigga has a bulletproof VX and bodyguards with minimum 200 k USD cash-in the car at all times!

IIRC; either Kayole or Lucky Summer was built by dirty cop money!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:35pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Who died? The photographer? Reality might be the town itself died
Ghanaians do not post pics of Accra using the search algorithms Google uses anymore
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:38pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
So you already have a revised budget this early.
the revise budget always comes in July when there is a need to.

Every July, the finance ministry goes to parliament to report on the health of the economy

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