TheGoodJoe:


You are just evading the truth. The above article clearly highlights the corrupt decision and lies made by the EPL officials.

The VAR officials knew it was a penalty and clearly denied City it. This is why I like VAR, now we know the agenda is clear.

JayPeeOham:


I don't know why nobody is talking about this part

TheGoodJoe:


That is not the incident in question. This was the first one that led to Fabinho's goal.

ndiuel:
Mr op, that article or interview you read wasn't talking about the first handball, it was talking about the second one Sterling played on Arnold's hand. If you read without hate you would have realised. Why does liverpool have so many haters??

TheGoodJoe:
Neil Swarbrick, the man whose job it is to oversee the implementation of VAR in the Premier League claimed it was the correct decision.

Speaking on BBC Five Live, he said: “That’s the subjective part – was it in an unnatural place? When you look at it, at no point does Trent Alexander-Arnold’s arm move towards the ball.

“His body posture … his arm is there. His arm has got to be somewhere. His arm is slightly away from his body but that is a neutral, natural position for his stance at that moment in time.

“The ball came from a short distance at pace, and just happened to hit that arm. He didn’t move the arm towards the ball, it just hit the arm.

“Michael Oliver has seen that clearly. That’s what he explained. He said ‘I know it’s hit the arm, but there is no arm movement, it’s come at short distance, I’m comfortable that that’s not deliberate handball’.

“It has to be deliberate in the penalty area to give a penalty. It’s different to scoring a goal, where it can be accidental. To give a penalty it’s got to be deliberate.

“Michael deemed it not to be deliberate. The VAR has looked at that, listened to what Michael said, and it absolutely married up.”

Except that is simply not true.

Not only that, Swarbrick, Oliver and the VAR all failed to see it, which questions either their eyesight or their integrity – take your pick.

Swarbrick also failed to mention the actual letter of the law.

He said it was about whether the arm was “in an unnatural place”.

The law actually states: “It is usually an offence if a player: touches the ball with their hand/arm when: the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger” or when the arm is raised above the head.

From being by his side, Alexander-Arnold’s arm indisputably rises and moves away from his body, therefore making his body “unnaturally bigger”.

VAR has been an unmitigated disaster. And with officials refusing to admit huge errors, and do something about them, it will continue to be so.



By the time the ball reaches Alexander-Arnold and strikes him, his arm has risen to a 45-degree angle





https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/var-liverpool-handball-alexander-arnold-17242608

SouthSouth1914:


But cases are similar and the referee did well to overrule the decisions!

izzou:


VAR rules in EPL and VAR rules in UEFA are different

You can google it

JayPeeOham:

I don't know why nobody is talking about this part

Shezkid:
A reminder that this was called a PK...VAR is SHIT

Notatribalist:
Stop crying over nothing. I am a Manchester United fan, so I actually supported city because I don't want Liverpool to win the league. But the ball actually hit Silva's hand before hitting Arnold, so why the cry?

TheGoodJoe:


You are just evading the truth. The above article clearly highlights the corrupt decision and lies made by the EPL officials.

The VAR officials knew it was a penalty and clearly denied City it. This is why I like VAR, now we know the agenda is clear.

TheGoodJoe:


‘One way or another, the action should have been stopped there and then,’ Kompany told Sky Sports. ‘You can argue about Bernardo’s handball, I don’t think he knows about it, but that [Alexander-Arnold’s] is a handball, that’s not a natural position.

‘Bernardo’s is in a natural position, Alexander-Arnold’s isn’t.’.. Vincent Kompany, former Manchester City captain.

Shezkid:


The rules about Ball touching hands are the same.. you go Google that too....

You complained about VAR inconsistencies, citing Chelsea and Ajax as an example

I told you VAR rules in both tournaments are different

And you're talk about Ball touching hands.....

Okay, I've heard

TheGoodJoe:


The point of the thread is not whether it should have been a penalty or not but the officials lied despite replay showing otherwise due to them being against City.

StDonE:
Unfortunately, the article forgot to mention that the ball deflected off Bernardo Silva's arm before hitting Trent's hand. If the ball did not came off Bernado's arm, it couldn't have hit Trent's. All the Liverpool FC enemies will not see that one especially Man Utd fans. Go and watch the replay and see it for yourself. That game is done and dusted and Liverpool is clear at the top. People should get used to it and stop crying.

niaralandtopuser:
if it hit Silva hands then the right decision would have been to return the ball for a handball against mancity. The rules are clear but English ref love to behave the way it suit them

izzou:


You complained about VAR inconsistencies, citing Chelsea and Ajax as an example

I told you VAR rules in both tournaments are different

And you're talk about Ball touching hands.....

Okay, I've heard

TheGoodJoe:


‘One way or another, the action should have been stopped there and then,’ Kompany told Sky Sports. ‘You can argue about Bernardo’s handball, I don’t think he knows about it, but that [Alexander-Arnold’s] is a handball, that’s not a natural position.

‘Bernardo’s is in a natural position, Alexander-Arnold’s isn’t.’.. Vincent Kompany, former Manchester City captain.

izzou:


Is his hand in its natural position?

A yes or a no, please.

Let's not type much

izzou:


Is his hand in its natural position?

A yes or a no, please.

Let's not type much

DonBenny77:
City were obviously robbed no one can dispute that the position or his arm rose to 45^o.

City will retain the league and laugh last.
Liverpool will always capitulate in EPL

Shezkid:


I only said of Abraham disallowed goal which was a hand Ball... I never generalized the whole match... understand that too...

And what tournament was that? EPL?

I Don understand. No vex

HIGHESTPOPORI:
How did they lie please,we don't understand, because only you is saying that,so sure saying the truth that benaldo Silva handball is not deliberate?

TheGoodJoe:


You are just evading the truth. The above article clearly highlights the corrupt decision and lies made by the EPL officials.

The VAR officials knew it was a penalty and clearly denied City it. This is why I like VAR, now we know the agenda is clear.

TheGoodJoe:


“Michael Oliver has seen that clearly. That’s what he explained. He said ‘I know it’s hit the arm, but there is no arm movement, it’s come at short distance, I’m comfortable that that’s not deliberate handball’.

“It has to be deliberate in the penalty area to give a penalty. It’s different to scoring a goal, where it can be accidental. To give a penalty it’s got to be deliberate.

“Michael deemed it not to be deliberate. The VAR has looked at that, listened to what Michael said, and it absolutely married up.”

Read the bolded and see that Michael Oliver lied and the VAR people checked the lie and agreed with the lied. The pictures proved they lied.

You comment here is off point.