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Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by Nobody: 12:22pm On Nov 14, 2019
frank317:
On ur own u open a thread calling out atheists and atheists respond then all of a sudden they are exerting too Much energy talk g about a nonexistent God.

You preach to atheists and they ask u critical questions that u can never and will never answer than all of a sudden they are exerting too much energy discussing a nonexistent

U believe in a being with out proof and allow ur self to be deceived by con men and be brainwashed and atheists helps u ask questions u can never answer, all of a sudden they are hating on ur God.

How about just show he exists or accept u have no case.
Not that I want to drive y'all away, but the truth is that your being here alone negates everything you've said.

So if you truly don't believe God exists, why not tell me first what you're doing in a religion section first of all?

I didn't invite you here by the way, you invited yourself.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by frank317: 5:19pm On Nov 14, 2019
jesusjnr:
Not that I want to drive y'all away, but the truth is that your being here alone negates everything you've said.

We being here only shows something is wrong with ur belief (which we also have been a victim of in the past) and that's what we are tryinv to show u.


So if you truly don't believe God exists, why not tell me first what you're doing in a religion section first of all?

We are here telling u that the God u believe in does not exist.


I didn't invite you here by the way, you invited yourself.
So?

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Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by Nobody: 7:29pm On Nov 14, 2019
frank317:

We being here only shows something is wrong with ur belief (which we also have been a victim of in the past) and that's what we are tryinv to show u.


We are here telling u that the God u believe in does not exist.


So?
As I said earlier, I don't have any problem with y'all being here, because the gospel is actually meant for the unbelievers.

But you have said earlier that I am the one who opened a thread calling out atheists, hence my response about what y'all were doing here in the first place because if you weren't here that wouldn't have been warranted.

To be honest with you, you're one of those who have informed my doubts about the existence of atheism, because think you believe that God exists but you are just using atheism to get back at him for some grouse you have with him either directly or indirectly.

You're not alone by the way, but you're one of them that made me have such doubts.

So tell me the truth, am I wrong?
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by frank317: 10:49am On Nov 15, 2019
jesusjnr:
As I said earlier, I don't have any problem with y'all being here, because the gospel is actually meant for the unbelievers.

Ok


But you have said earlier that I am the one who opened a thread calling out atheists, hence my response about what y'all were doing here in the first place because if you weren't here that wouldn't have been warranted.
Well, like I told u, we are here questioning ur believe and helping u ask critical questions.


To be honest with you, you're one of those who have informed my doubts about the existence of atheism, because think you believe that God exists but you are just using atheism to get back at him for some grouse you have with him either directly or indirectly.
So how does my questioning critical issues about Christianity shows I am getting back at God. Well, that's ur cup of tea. I don't think God exists hence I am seeking out reason to see he does... So far u have done a poor job... Hence I am getting confidence by the day in my thinking he does not exist.


You're not alone by the way, but you're one of them that made me have such doubts.

So tell me the truth, am I wrong?
Yes, u are wrong. I have no reason to believe God exists... In fact, u are one of those that have made me so sure that the believe in God is just a delusion.

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Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by Nobody: 8:04pm On Nov 15, 2019
frank317:

Ok


Well, like I told u, we are here questioning ur believe and helping u ask critical questions.


So how does my questioning critical issues about Christianity shows I am getting back at God. Well, that's ur cup of tea. I don't think God exists hence I am seeking out reason to see he does... So far u have done a poor job... Hence I am getting confidence by the day in my thinking he does not exist.


Yes, u are wrong. I have no reason to believe God exists... In fact, u are one of those that have made me so sure that the believe in God is just a delusion.
Lol!

So what if God uses me to prove His existence to you, what next?
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by frank317: 6:59am On Nov 16, 2019
jesusjnr:
Lol!

So what if God uses me to prove His existence to you, what next?

What next? I will definitely change my mind and believe God exists. Simple

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Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by Nobody: 4:19pm On Nov 16, 2019
frank317:


What next? I will definitely change my mind and believe God exists. Simple
After the extent of energy you've invested to rubbish the belief in God, that's all you'd do?

Just belief He exists?

So why not just simply belief God doesn't exist now?
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by Seun(m): 6:03pm On Nov 16, 2019
Most atheists don't discuss religion at all. Many believe that it's stupid for atheists who live in religious countries to discuss religion publicly.

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Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by frank317: 10:02pm On Nov 16, 2019
jesusjnr:
After the extent of energy you've invested to rubbish the belief in God, that's all you'd do?

What exactly do u mean by exerting energy.. I ha e told u why I am here discussing God with u.. Perhaps u should go and check my earlier responses.


Just belief He exists?

U asked me a question and I gave u a sincere answer.. What else do u want me to say?

Prove God to me and I Wil believe, but since u haven't, he is not real.


So why not just simply belief God doesn't exist now?
What else do u think I have been saying?
Are u daft? How many times have I told u I don't believe based on no good evidence.

I think u really have nothing to say.

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Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by Nobody: 11:53pm On Nov 16, 2019
frank317:

What exactly do u mean by exerting energy.. I ha e told u why I am here discussing God with u.. Perhaps u should go and check my earlier responses.


U asked me a question and I gave u a sincere answer.. What else do u want me to say?

Prove God to me and I Wil believe, but since u haven't, he is not real.


What else do u think I have been saying?
Are u daft? How many times have I told u I don't believe based on no good evidence.

I think u really have nothing to say.
You claim that you don't believe He exists, but you're not being simple about it as you said you would be if you get evidence that He does.

So why should God deem it necessary to prove His existence to you when it would make no difference, but just that you'd simply believe that He exists?

There have been times when people have had proof of His existence but it didn't make much difference, so what's the point of you believing he exists?

If you ask me, you haven't God any justifiable reason to prove His existence to you, by what you said you would do if you get proof of His existence.

So there is no point of Him giving it to you.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by frank317: 7:29am On Nov 17, 2019
jesusjnr:
You claim that you don't believe He exists, but you're not being simple about it as you said you would be if you get evidence that He does.

How do mean by I am not being simple about my belief that God does not exist. Do u guys just coin words and expect people to live by it? What else can be as simple as I don't believe God exists based on the fact that there are no evidence of him.



So why should God deem it necessary to prove His existence to you when it would make no difference, but just that you'd simply believe that He exists?

Does God and u hate the word simple? Or is the word simple so strong for u to understand. So because I will simply believe he exist God will decide he will not prove him self to me? It's he stupid? Don't u believe he exist? Is it hard for u or wasn't it simple for u? So why did he now prove himself to u?
I understand that ur God didn't go to school but I expect more from u who is probably a graduate.


There have been times when people have had proof of His existence but it didn't make much difference, so what's the point of you believing he exists?

So u, what is the point of u believing he exists? If believing he exists is useless, why do u now believe he exists? Since believing he exists make no difference in people's lives does that not imply that God is useless? Is this what u are trying to say?


If you ask me, you haven't God any justifiable reason to prove His existence to you, by what you said you would do if you get proof of His existence.

Why is my believing in God(if I find prove he exists) not good enough. Why is ur own believing in God good enough.


So there is no point of Him giving it to you.
I am pretty sure he can't because he ain't real. So just go and sleep.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by Nobody: 7:33pm On Nov 17, 2019
frank317:

How do mean by I am not being simple about my belief that God does not exist. Do u guys just coin words and expect people to live by it? What else can be as simple as I don't believe God exists based on the fact that there are no evidence of him.



Does God and u hate the word simple? Or is the word simple so strong for u to understand. So because I will simply believe he exist God will decide he will not prove him self to me? It's he stupid? Don't u believe he exist? Is it hard for u or wasn't it simple for u? So why did he now prove himself to u?
I understand that ur God didn't go to school but I expect more from u who is probably a graduate.


So u, what is the point of u believing he exists? If believing he exists is useless, why do u now believe he exists? Since believing he exists make no difference in people's lives does that not imply that God is useless? Is this what u are trying to say?


Why is my believing in God(if I find prove he exists) not good enough. Why is ur own believing in God good enough.


I am pretty sure he can't because he ain't real. So just go and sleep.
The reason I asked you what you'd do if God uses me to prove to you that He exists, is because I just wanted to hear what you would say after the extent of hatred you've shown towards Him and any one who believes in Him despite claiming that you believe He does not exist.

Because despite your claim about asking critical and intelligent questions about God, all I get from you as I said the other time is so much hate-filled questions and comments instead.

As I told you earlier you're one of those who gave me reasons to wonder if atheism really existed and not God-hateism, and you've hence justified this thread and proven me right by your offensive comments here also.

You hence shown beyond any doubt that you are a God-hater and just using atheism as an excuse to get back at Him for a grouse you have with Him. So this is expected to continue even if you get proof for His existence, only that then it would not be under the guise of atheism but God-hateism as it truly is.

I hope you get rid of the hate though because you'd only hurt yourself with it and no one else. Thanks.

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Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by frank317: 12:40pm On Nov 18, 2019
jesusjnr:
The reason I asked you what you'd do if God uses me to prove to you that He exists, is because I just wanted to hear what you would say after the extent of hatred you've shown towards Him and any one who believes in Him despite claiming that you believe He does not exist.
God has to exist first before I start hating him. Stop talking trash and prove ur God for once in ur life.


Because despite your claim about asking critical and intelligent questions about God, all I get from you as I said the other time is so much hate-filled questions and comments instead.
Show me just one hate filled statement I have made against God. U better learn to stop lying.


As I told you earlier you're one of those who gave me reasons to wonder if atheism really existed and not God-hateism, and you've hence justified this thread and proven me right by your offensive comments here also.
You are also one of those Christians who made me confident that God does not exist with ur lies and nonsensical statements. Where is the offensive comment? Anyways it's not a must that u have to like everything I say.


You hence shown beyond any doubt that you are a God-hater and just using atheism as an excuse to get back at Him for a grouse you have with Him. So this is expected to continue even if you get proof for His existence, only that then it would not be under the guise of atheism but God-hateism as it truly is.
Keep up repeating ur self like a mental patient. Make sense bro and prove ur God exists. That's the one thing u can never do, it's not about rambling.


I hope you get rid of the hate though because you'd only hurt yourself with it and no one else. Thanks.
I hope u get rid of ur delusion because u end up making a fool of ur self in the long run. Cheers.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by tintingz(m): 2:52pm On Nov 18, 2019
JeromeBlack:



Keep quiet.

If Jesus were alive, he would call you a pharisee. You are a joker. Did Jesus go around hating Samaritans and gentiles because they didnt believe in his God just like you are doing to atheists?
Actually Jesus did hate them.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by JeromeBlack: 3:25pm On Nov 18, 2019
tintingz:
Actually Jesus did hate them.

Samaritans??

Please, kindly go back to your islam section. You only know one religion and that is islam.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by JeromeBlack: 3:26pm On Nov 18, 2019
tintingz:
Actually Jesus did hate them.

Samaritans??

No.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by tintingz(m): 6:48pm On Nov 18, 2019
JeromeBlack:


Samaritans??

Please, kindly go back to your islam section. You only know one religion and that is islam.


Jesus hate those who questioned his divinity.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by budaatum: 11:31pm On Nov 19, 2019
tintingz:


Jesus hate those who questioned his divinity.
Show where please.

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Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by tintingz(m): 1:19am On Nov 20, 2019
budaatum:

Show where please.

(Mathew 16:4)
A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

(Mathew 23:33)
"You serpents, you generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell"?


Jesus committed ad hominem fallacy, if this is not hating I don't know what else to call it.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by budaatum: 5:16pm On Nov 20, 2019
tintingz:


(Mathew 16:4)
A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

(Mathew 23:33)
"You serpents, you generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell"?


Jesus committed ad hominem fallacy, if this is not hating I don't know what else to call it.
You don't know what hating is! You say worse than this, is it because you are hating?

Where did these he mentioned "question his divinity"?
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by tintingz(m): 7:40pm On Nov 20, 2019
budaatum:

You don't know what hating is! You say worse than this, is it because you are hating?

Where did these he mentioned "question his divinity"?

They asked for signs.
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by TVSA: 9:08pm On Nov 20, 2019
tintingz:


They asked for signs.

Those were Pharisees not Samaritans
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by tintingz(m): 7:03am On Nov 21, 2019
TVSA:


Those were Pharisees not Samaritans

The point have been made. Jesus was not all loving person to his enemies and oppositions, he hate them(or hate their ways) that he used cursed words for them.

You can't be insulting and cursing a subject and said you don't hate or dislike it.

Cc. Budaatum
JeromeBlack
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by GeneralShepherd(m): 7:40am On Nov 21, 2019
My 2 cents as a former atheist . Atheists come in all shapes and forms. Some are militantly against organised religion as they believe people are disillusioned while others are polite.

It is important to note that atheism is not an organised religion. And so one atheists action cannot be used to paint the whole group
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by JeromeBlack: 9:14am On Nov 21, 2019
GeneralShepherd:
My 2 cents as a former atheist . Atheists come in all shapes and forms. Some are militantly against organised religion as they believe people are disillusioned while others are polite.

It is important to note that atheism is not an organised religion. And so one atheists action cannot be used to paint the whole group


I agree with you. However, the word 'militant' is an overstatement.

When was the last time an atheist beheaded a christian or muslim? Or bombed a church or mosque?

Whereas, we have had Christians who have
-killed abortion doctors
-bombed abortion clinics
-banned atheists from speaking
-shot up a mosque with assault rifles
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by GeneralShepherd(m): 10:19am On Nov 21, 2019
JeromeBlack:



I agree with you. However, the word 'militant' is an overstatement.

When was the last time an atheist beheaded a christian or muslim? Or bombed a church or mosque?

Whereas, we have had Christians who have
-killed abortion doctors
-bombed abortion clinics
-banned atheists from speaking
-shot up a mosque with assault rifles


I meant militant only in verbal or written belligerence
Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by Nobody: 11:15am On Nov 23, 2019
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Re: Atheism Or God-Hateism? by budaatum: 6:08pm On Nov 23, 2019
tintingz:


The point have been made. Jesus was not all loving person to his enemies and oppositions, he hate them(or hate their ways) that he used cursed words for them.

You can't be insulting and cursing a subject and said you don't hate or dislike it.

Cc. Budaatum
JeromeBlack
I see you've doubled down, tingz. Jesus clearly hated certain behaviours - hypocrites, for example, but did not go about hating.

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