Jonraid:
Nope!

You always get it wrong.You must be living such a sad life!

Kenyatta sold 40,000 hectares of your lands to Qatar
you are still here making noise

Jonraid:
Because we're only 47 million people duh!

unproductive 47 million people

being fed by the world

Shma:
Nigeria is richer than Kenya but Ghana!? oooh no.. . Just did my research on Google and I can bet Ghana is poor and undeveloped as I expected, I can even testify that Dar salaam is much more developed than Accra. Let's just be real and put tantrums aside., Ghana is nothing to Kenya. I can see how they are hyping the Nigerians just for a back up since they failed a long time. In this forum S.a is somehow overrated, we can only do comparison with the likes of Lagos Naija, an d some few S.a cities not Accra. Am just speaking my mind no hating.

a country with a 40% poverty rate making noise

it will take you a century to get to where Ghana is
kiddo

Mkenya2019:
Rwanda has probably the highest population density in Africa and yet is largely rural (80% rural). There are few countries as messed up as Nigeria where people abandon farms - and go to towns to hustle - or well immigrate thro the Sahara. Kenya urbanization is where it's supposed to be for it's level of development. Our urbanization is growing at 4% rate....so I expect we are about 30%....and possibly by 2030 when we become a middle class economy...we will be at 50% economy.

The reason why Ghana and Nigeria are economically sick - is because of unbridled urbanization...where millions live in shanties calling themselves urban areas...instead of farming.

You know China for example just got 50% urbanization recently?

so, u want to compare ur sorry state with rwanda that's just reeling itself and building itself out of shamble? U're sick!

If china has 50% urbanisation rate in less than 30 years due to their economic boom, why is shangri-la still at 26%? Why is shangri-la waiting till 2030 before hitting 50%?

Jonraid:
South African cities are better managed in SSA when compared to most cities in other African countries,that is true urbanization. In Kenya,we have some slums in cities in Nigeria we have Slumburnization (over-urbanization).

bring out d list slums in africa, i want to show u something.

vaxx1:
Go and face your study . this not a sign of inteligence.... I pass but before that take this.. ..

It is impossible to become rich on a salary alone, because every shilling that you earn is immediately taxed at a combined rate that can reach close to half of your salary or more . kenya has one of the high taxed system in Africa. you even pay for citizenship card just to meet a high revenue income so If you just hold onto that cash, it decreases in value every day due to inflation. The average idea we fan rely on per capital of the total gross domestic production of such country. being a salary earner does not make you richer than take and pay earner ... all the depends on your overall economic productivity ...

iam just being practical and real
you are right it is not only salaries but also the overall economic productivity

so next is about business owners , business owners in south africa make more money than the business owners in gabon and e.quinea

that is why iam saying the average south african is more richer than an average person in gabon or e.guinea
if an average employed south african earns more in salary than an average employed person in gabon or e.guinea
if an average business owner in south africa makes more cash than average business person in gabon or e.guinea

then how can you tell me people in gabon and e.guinea are richer than people of south africa

psychologygh:
very funny with how a drought infested famine cursed Turkana,Alshabab terrorist prone country , mountain climber,slum infested country is talking about refugees with the most peaceful and most stable nation in Africa. Your sex slaves are being sold online to Kuwait, Oman,Lebanon etc and your men as hungry as stick to the extent that they commit suicide more than any people in the continent. What's your suicide rate.Hungry idiots Turkana ghosts like you.

The Ghanaians outside the country are majority professionals,students,workers who are exposed and contribute billions of dollars of remittance into the country which is third largest in the continent after Nigeria and Egypt. Do you know the number of diaspora US of all nations have.At least their nation is the greatest nation buh they still find opportunities out there in other nations.

Stop disgracing yourself by telling us our history cos you look very dumb.Nkrumah overthrown in 1966 and JJ being president in 1981.

Tell me how these two stories correlate. Are a you that dumb not to realise that they are two different eras and one never knew or met the other.Nkrumah died in the 70s and JJ was just a junior soldier by then.JJ had a Ghanaian mother,born,raised and stayed in Ghana all his life,speaks three different Ghanaian languages, all his life saw himself as a Ghanaian, never met his dad,got into the air force, won the best pilot,planned a coup,was arrested,Ghanaians started a revolution and broke him out of prison,toppled a military government, instituted democracy and handed over power,till then Ghana never looked back.

That's how you guys learn about us in your schools buh we don't even know if Kenya exist.Ghana now is rated among the most progressive and most developed nations in Africa.Hunger does not kill our people.Our free and effective policies makes our human development index always ahead of your Drought infested country and will beat you in all economic indices.

Our 17 billion dollars exports dwarfs your 5 billion export country with foreigners owning all your tea industry and lands. Terrorists will continue to torment your hungry souls.Stupid Kiberian slum monkey like you rats.

foolish country.... That is why one of the idiot also thinks nestle owns cocoa farm in Ghana? very disturbed mind ...if their tea farm are controlled by international organization. then how can they prosper in what they claim they are the second largest producer after sri lanka

Aderr:
I will fish out where they admitted Ghana is better than their shithhole Kenya and shut them up. Kenyans are indeed stupid and insecure.

lol, i think i saw that..... very stupid and insecure set of people.

Mkenya2019:
Not when GDP is over-cooked. Development is not something that you hide in books or numbers. If you go to a developed country, you can immediately tell it's developed. If you go to South Africa - you know in few minutes it's doing well. Same with Botswana or Namibia. And I dare say based on the pictures and videos we have seen...Kenya is definitely far ahead of both Ghana and Nigeria.

Pictures don't lie.

development cant be hidden

if you are developed , your cement consumption will prove it

you cant be doing 5 million metric tonnes and compare yourself to a country doing almost 3 time what you are doing

theenchanter:
is ur agricultural output more than Nigeria's output with 50% urban rate or SA with 60% urban rate? Why do u people like to spin urself like a barber's chair?

But d ghanaians once told u d bolded but u guys ran amok over it, why?

Having 74% rural rate means ur physical development/infrastructure is secluded.

ooh please

perhaps you dont know we are the largest milk producers in africa
we are also the largest avocado producers in africa
we are also the largest tea producers in africa
we are also the largest flower producer in africa
those are agricultural activities and they are supported by our transport and logistics sector which is better than nigeria
while nigeria has petroleum tankers we have milk tankers
milk is sold in village collection points which have electricity for the milk cooling plants and good access roads
avocados too need refrigerators too keep them from spoiling we also produce french beans in huge amounts and they also need good roads and storage facilities all this supporting infrastructure are found in rural areas

Jonraid:
What has changed much from that? You might be getting 17 billion dollars as export revenues but your revenue body collects less than 10 billion dollars from the economy. Just because you sell much doesn't mean that you collect much. For Kenya,this is so different. We get six billion plus as export revenues but our revenue body is on road to collect 20 billion dollars as total government revenues. Your gdp per capita is nothing but a product of high exports,I just realized that you collect child sums revenue for your own budget.

my revenue body is not the debt burden Kenya


GRA collects 12 billion dollars in revenue

Kenya revenue is 10 billion dollars from 53 million people

that is poverty.

Shifting goalposts from those farms being owned by Qataris and now Kenyatta selling land to them.The deal with the Qatar government never sailed true! They own zero farms.

Just30:
Kenyatta sold 40,000 hectares of your lands to Qatar
you are still here making noise

theenchanter:
let me explain ur logic to u, seems u don't even understand urself.

Once ur incorrigible self libel against a particular topic, country or whatever, u go against all odds to remonstrate any stats that doesn't fit ur own submission, hence, ur famous lingo "fake this" "fake that", "cooked this" cooked that"... then u come up with ur own reasons why those stats are wrong... it's an everyday occurence, so it doesn't make any sense debating with u.

It still baffle me how u choose to believe that Nigerians bought only 32 VW's in 2017 but fault satellite image of electricity illumination in kenya, same satellite image that shows all African countries.

I won't be suprised if it gets to KE vs SA or US and u'll still chide them.

Yeye person.

lets refresh their minds again

Proof?

And we're 47m people,officially!

Just30:
my revenue body is not the debt burden Kenya


GRA collects 12 billion dollars in revenue

Kenya revenue is 10 billion dollars from 53 million people

that is poverty.

NOt just any kind of kid
but a kid from a poor dad

samorobo:


Cry kiddo...The per capita of Nigeria and Ghana makes kenya look like a kid who just learnt how to crawl....

Now shout cooked

samorobo:



Oh I see you've added to this...It is obvious you are already spelling doom to them and as well revealing you hidden jealousy for a country that is better than you in all aspects....you are already on the path to start this SA vs Kenya....

You are jealous and hateful pieces of skunk head goat that feels Kenya us entitled more to progress than any other African country since she never had resources and suffered in the 90's whilst every other resource rich African countries were in a serious boom ....You should focus on your debt ridden fake economy that will definitely crumble before we hit 2026..

Omfg, you sound like a kindergarten kid with your resource mantra! Ok, we're jealous-now will you change the CD!?

tylann:


iam just being practical and real
you are right it is not only salaries but also the overall economic productivity

so next is about business owners , business owners in south africa make more money than the business owners in gabon and e.quinea

that is why iam saying the average south african is more richer than an average person in gabon or e.guinea
if an average employed south african earns more in salary than an average employed person in gabon or e.guinea
if an average business owner in south africa makes more cash than average business person in gabon or e.guinea

then how can you tell me people in gabon and e.guinea are richer than people of south africa

The average south africa is not in anyway richer than gabonese. the inequality rate speaks for itself . south Africa has the highest inequality rate in Africa. your country kenya is also not that far from the table .

Acadavah:


The positive side of his post, he have already agree that Nigeria is richer than Kenya. Vaxx have already agree too that Nigeria is better than Kenya but few months ago they were both loudmouth how Nigeria is not better than their both countries. There is saying in Swahili, " Vita havina macho". Meaning the war is blind

you know we like to pick on Nigeria

Kenya making GHANA and NIGERIA come together.How cute! Might as well add Tanzania into the mix!

tylann:


hdi is the true measure of development

nigeria has high gdp per capita than kenya
yet you have more extremely poor people than kenya
so how does that help you

Am I misreading you, tylann?

Does Ghana collect 12 billion dollars in tax revenues? I quickly accept facts!

Mkenya2019:
Assuming I was jealous - how would my jealousness stop South Africa ascend or decline? I only speak about the facts as I know. South Africa economy is sick (growth rate is now btw 0-2% for the medium term - ESKOM is sick -etc etc)- but it's still 3-4 times bigger than Kenya - I think about 15 yrs - around 2035 - if they don't escape their middle-class trap - Kenya and other countries will catch up with them.

well done dreaming

in what productive capacity will you pass SA


i give you a century and you will still not pass SA

Jonraid:
Provided that they are no parties that would remit that profit abroad. If multinationals run your cocoa/tea industry then you won't get to have much of those revenues/profits.

except that is a big if

because multinationals dont run farms here

lands are owned by Ghanaians

tylann:


not every indices
we beat them in some indices

anyway we were talking about nigeria
what indices does nigeria beat kenya

mention one

That was an example.Don't just jump in in debates!

Just30:


except that is a big if

because multinationals dont run farms here

lands are owned by Ghanaians

Acadavah:


The positive side of his post, he have already agree that Nigeria is richer than Kenya. Vaxx have already agree too that Nigeria is better than Kenya but few months ago they were both loudmouth how Nigeria is not better than their both countries. There is saying in Swahili, " Vita havina macho". Meaning the war is blind

take it or live it . i know deep within us particularly west africa states , Nigeria has it better than kenya and at the same time economically buoyant than Ghana except on an average indices where population overwhelmed rate hence frustrate Nigeria ranks.... but checking on kenya once again which is just about 20 million above Ghana in population, the statistics from there never impressed me. I look beyond GDP . i see growth in human development and rapid expansion of growth thru urbanization.

samorobo:


GDP per capita will clearly renders the longetivity of this thread useless...+quickly call this cooked)
Then you moved to paved road percentage and access to water...

he will say cooked

Electricity per cap

he will call it cooked

cement consumption
he will call it cooked

tylann:


ooh please

perhaps you dont know we are the largest milk producers in africa
we are also the largest avocado producers in africa
we are also the largest tea producers in africa
we are also the largest flower producer in africa
those are agricultural activities and they are supported by our transport and logistics sector which is better than nigeria
while nigeria has petroleum tankers we have milk tankers
milk is sold in village collection points which have electricity for the milk cooling plants and good access roads
avocados too need refrigerators too keep them from spoiling we also produce french beans in huge amounts and they also need good roads and storage facilities all this supporting infrastructure are found in rural areas

those are ur largest agricultural products and u won't let us hear word?

Cocoa is still valuable than ur avocado and Ghana is d second largest producer...

I'm not interested in ur remaining rants, i didn't even read it.

I'm still waiting for the 12 billion dollar tax revenue proof!

vaxx1:
The average south africa is not in anyway richer than gabonese. the inequality rate speaks for itself . south Africa has the highest inequality rate in Africa. your country kenya is also not that far from the table .

we are not talking about inequality here

inequality measures the gap btwn the richest and the poorest
the average guy in the middle in south africa is more richer than the middle guy in gabon and e.guinea

kenya is unequal society i know that

this is the craziest thing ive heard today

Jonraid:
For a country that is 87% arid? Yeah, I think the population should be densely populated ? Right ? Less population density means less urbanisation,get that. You need to study the geography of population(demography).You are so thick headed.

Man,you argue like a dumped girlfriend.

Just30:



this is the craziest thing ive heard today