shortgun:

Not falsehood brother but common sense.
When u get to that point in life where u realize that somethings will never be in ur control... that's when u start to be mature.
Following the manufacturers recommendations (fully)is out our control we must use our heads to keep the cars running.
It doesn't make any sense to use expensive probably fake oil on a vehicle that is more than 10yrs old when u know that u can't follow all d manufacturers recommendations.
It is hypocrisy when u follow recommended oil and not follow (required) fuel type
Using d wrong type of fuel for any car will do more harm to the vehicle than non recommended lubricants.
The primary purpose of engine oils is to lubricate moving parts in a vehicle...most oils will do this.
Any oil u use to service ur vehicle..u will still need another car in the future.
Even the manufacturers are not perfect....this is why u have recalls.
Whatever works for u follow it, don't say u r right and I am wrong.

thebigkendo:



Dru23 please come & end this argument for us with your "facts" & parables

dru23:



I dey on vacation... I can't come and kill myself....

nurey:


do you eat worms? I didn't know you are a trash eater. What's that nonsense you are drinking, please cancer is real

dru23:


One thing one thing must kill man ... make person enjoy ...

Than loaf of bread you eating every morning.. The yeast and the ingredients is full with cancer.. If you know, you know

AmuDimpka:



That is what I have been telling these guys here... I have driven benz for years now
.. it is just madness to use premium oil on a car that is over 10yrs old or over 100,000 kilometers... It's just doesn't make sense


If the engine is new then you can use such oil it would reduce the wear and year but not when you buy a tokunbo 2006 benz that you don't know the oil the previous owner used or even ha w access to know the level of depreciation and wear that has happened. You go dey shout Mobil 1 up and down


Abeg those that are hawking Mobil 1 here make una no vex... Have to tell them the truth

shortgun:

How can someone waste money on a 0wxx and 5wxx oils in Nigeria when the oils is clearly made for vehicles in winter climates.
The W in oil grading stands for winter.
Meaning 0wxx will flow more in cold temperatures than a 5wxx oil.

We don't have a winter in Nigeria...u don't need to waste that money.
Our concern here should be with the number that's after the W since this number indicate how d oil behaves at high temperatures.
A 5w30 oil will thin out,become light more in high temperatures than a 5w40 oil.
Why is this so difficult to understand.
Local man is tired walahi.

Attached is screenshot of Mobil website
They recommend 0w40 and 5w50 for Mercedes Benz cars...

shortgun:

You have said nothing but the truth...you have done ur own part for the good of humanity.

shortgun:

How can someone waste money on a 0wxx and 5wxx oils in Nigeria when the oils is clearly made for vehicles in winter climates.
The W in oil grading stands for winter.
Meaning 0wxx will flow more in cold temperatures than a 5wxx oil.

We don't have a winter in Nigeria...u don't need to waste that money.
Our concern here should be with the number that's after the W since this number indicate how d oil behaves at high temperatures.
A 5w30 oil will thin out,become light more in high temperatures than a 5w40 oil.
Why is this so difficult to understand.
Local man is tired walahi.

Attached is screenshot of Mobil website
They recommend 0w40 and 5w50 for Mercedes Benz cars...

thebigkendo:


Why are you so pained/bothered with how somebody decides to waste his money?
Did they usually beg you for money?

My car recommends 5w-20, Please show me where i can buy 30w-20", since our ambient temp is 30deg C
You also said i should ignore the 5W..and be concern with the "20"

AmuDimpka:


It is not about you wasting money it is about people learning... People are reading and they are learning ... You can waste the money ... That is no problem

My car recommends 5w-20, Please show me where i can buy 30w-20, since our ambient temp is 30deg C
You also said i should ignore the 5W..and be concern with the "20"

AmuDimpka:


Thank you


Before you buy oil there are things to factor

Useage
Age of the car
Age of the engine
Friction
Depreciation


Not shouting Mobil 1 up and down... For a car that is over 12 yrs old? That is madness in my own understanding....

AmuDimpka:


Oga this is simple engineering, science and physics not some dru stuff that needs parable

Physics 101

shortgun:

But ur manufacturer also said u should use premium unleaded fuel
Maybe u r not following blindly on that one cos it's boldly stated premium unleaded fuel (Required)
The truth remains that doesn't matter if u use palm oil or jet engine oil as lubricants..ur car will still give in to wear n tear and depreciate like my brother AmuDimpka will say.
Just like someone said: it's your car,u decide what you do with it.
But I have a problem with people who think they know it all and must tell others the "right" ways to use their cars.

Eddee:


My guy what is it with physics?

Even Dru has decided to sit this one out, tells you an awful lot.

As long as you follow the maintenance schedule in your car’s owner’s manual (assuming your dinosaur came with one). "It spells out when to take care of every service for the life of your car, including routine oil and filter changes, tire rotations, and more major service such as timing-belt replacement. Simply follow the routine spelled out for you. Even missing one oil change can contribute to premature engine wear, or cause damage and reduce the chances of your car remaining reliable for long."

Common sense (and huge maintenance and repair bills) not "engineering, science and physics" will keep your Benz running forever.

Eddee:


My guy what is it with physics?

Even Dru has decided to sit this one out, tells you an awful lot.

As long as you follow the maintenance schedule in your car’s owner’s manual (assuming your dinosaur came with one). "It spells out when to take care of every service for the life of your car, including routine oil and filter changes, tire rotations, and more major service such as timing-belt replacement. Simply follow the routine spelled out for you. Even missing one oil change can contribute to premature engine wear, or cause damage and reduce the chances of your car remaining reliable for long."

Common sense (and huge maintenance and repair bills) not "engineering, science and physics" will keep your Benz running forever.

banky3w:

[In HeavenlyBang's writing]....... I like the way you've been communicating as if you are saying something correct and sensible. Continue

eagle13:
a very wonderful job here,pls I'm new here I just purchased a used2005 Benz c230k through a friend n it developed a brain box issue.n I can't find a match for d faulty one.can anyone help me out how to get this fixed. I was told water got inside d brain box while washing d engine,that was d actual cause of d damage. and d rewire has been trying to get a replacement, all to no avail. Pls help a brother.

rationalmind:
This is from my manual

"Always use a premium-grade 5W-20 detergent oil displaying the API Certification Seal."

Whether at 100 miles or at 900,000 miles, Always use a premium-grade 5W-20.....

ibbabah:


All you need is a new brain box. The brain box is very much available. The brain box of my C230 also had issue two months ago, so I got a new one and the coding was done. My car now rides smoothly without any further issue.

AmuDimpka:

Which market was your car produced for and what climate and year model


Let's start from there

thebigkendo:


Why are you so pained/bothered with how somebody decides to waste his money?
Did they usually beg you for money?

My car recommends 5w-20, Please show me where i can buy 30w-20", since our ambient temp is 30deg C
You also said i should ignore the 5W..and be concern with the "20"

rationalmind:


I'll let my manual do the talking. You must know by now I'm a zombie, I just follow whatever my manual says.

Here in the image below, it states the oil is suitable for temperatures between neg 30 to 40°C

So you can start by showing us how the temperature in this climate of ours, especially in PHC where I stay falls below or above the image shown below


And my engine is above 100k miles, still runs like its new. Infact I'm at 184k miles and these days I hardly ever remember to check my dip stick

The closest experience I've had with oil burn is reading Eddee's post on cartalk

shortgun:

U see the problem with most people is they like to follow the guidelines, they like the rules they are caged by the regulations, they like the norm and will never do anything out the norm.
This is 2019 not 2001.
Car manufacturers are learning things we knew long ago.
That ur 30w20 oil is outdated, manufacturers will not recommend that oil today.

The recommended oils for a 2018 Mercedes Benz c class is 0w40 and 5w50 oils, while d recommended oil for 2002 C class is 5w30....notice how the number after the W have increased over d years....

Some of you think the lower the number the better but the manufacturer you claim to follow have moved up to higher numbers but you still choose to remain on one spot shouting Mobil 1 5w30 everywhere up n down
He that doesn't know and claim he knows is a danger to himself and others.
If you like follow wisdom.

AmuDimpka:


It is not about you wasting money it is about people learning... People are reading and they are learning ... You can waste the money ... That is no problem

Eddee:


Mehn, I don tire for here - the misinformation na A1. As recent as February this year my kabu kabu w211 still ran on 5w-30. In short, I researched extensively, called people that were more knowledgeable on these things before switching to 15w50. They all had one advise, if you're switching oils based on engine issues, decrease your change intervals - I refuse to use 20w50 just yet (my dad uses Forte Oil for an S Class, very sad)... But he swears by it, and besides he can afford a new engine on a whim - I can't! .

rationalmind:


There are many people who view these boards. A great number are newbies. We must not allow the likes of shortgun misinform them.

The annoying thing is, when the vehicle starts developing issues, they slam for sale on it and say it's buy and drive to Maiduguri.

When you bring out yours to sell, someone will point at theirs and say you're greedy.

I seem to so much like the last part of your post.
For those who can afford to replace their engines without battling an eye lid, you can use any oil you want and leave without change for as long as you like.

For the rest of us, we will continue to follow the recommendations of the manufacturer.