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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kushercain: 11:47am On Nov 24, 2019 |
OMANBALA1: Sorry o but the bolded is not bad at all. He has our blessings. It's a symbiosis scenario 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:48am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Kbs468: I appreciate your position. But I AM VERY CONCERNED, we are Nigerians if there is loophole for abuse, then guaranteed Nigerian will abuse it. The SE is not the platform for players to progress thier failing careers. Selection must be fair, measured and objective. It's what you do in your club and league with consistent, continous and top performances that's gives the basis for selection. Consider the bold, this has been the bane of the NFF over the years, infact historically. Coaches officials now use it to leverage the careers of the players they have interest in. This goes to the highest levels of the NFF. We know what happened with Shittu and Tony Harrison. There are others but no need to mention names. It's a recipe for the enthronment if corruption which is still rife in the NFF. Even at youth level it's rampant. Sadiq case is outside of my normal proposition. Because he has had several years in top 10 leagues but been adequate at best. Another year in a sub 15 rated league in Europe was woeful and now he goes to a sub 20 rated league in Europe and is outstanding. It may be that's his level. He has to be tested at a higher level before deductions can be made. The SE is for the best players Nigeria can get. The difference between the Nigerian origin players from the UK or Europe. Is that they do not need the SE to bolster thier careers, it adds no value to them. Unlike players born and home grown from Nigeria, who need that SE for thier careers to progress. If you do well in your league and club and are outstanding then recognition and the £££ big pay out will come. Classic examples Dele Alli league one MK Dons to Tottenham. Ngolo Kante, Mahrez, Gomez, Ademola, etc. I remember George Abbey played RB for the SE but that didn't help his career the highest level he attained was league one. I am very positive that come end of January or before Eberechi Eze will be in the SE. And Iwobi will have some serious competition. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:53am On Nov 24, 2019 |
darkelf: I have talked about the football dynamics and value associated with branding and national team selection. The leverage used to get the long term contractual agreement etc. But you seem not to have understood these dynamics. How many of these boys have you spoken too and how many if thier agents have you spoken too.❓ I expect more depth of understanding from you at this stage, you are talking superficially. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 11:54am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Philosopher1979:Exactly my point. You don't even need to go after anybody. Instead, whenever any Player or Players are being discovered, simply feed the NFF's technical department with the details so that They can keep monitoring him or them while also notifying the SE manager about it through the said department as far as the Players in question have at one time expressed interest in playing for NIGERIA because they would always be asked by journalist. Now, you would be seeing receipt of expenditure for the said engagement trip including those involving TAMMY &TOMORIs failed trips It's a pity seriously |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:57am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Lucque: Thankfully Amaju is not ignorant of the dynamics of football marketing and value associated with national allegiance. Soon Eberechi Eze will be playing for Nigeria, my expectations before the end of January or sooner. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:00pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Kbs468: You really don't know your NFF officials. And by now you should know London is like another state capital of Nigeria. They come to London on any excuse and a few of them have houses here. But will still stay in hotels at NFF expense a very Nigerian mentality. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:08pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe: I have information of some of the things that happened during Keshi's time. It certainly was not pure. NFF played a part as well with irregular payment of wages, i guess. Rohr has never had a public spat with players regardless of disagreements. Keshi and Oliseh did. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:11pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
jihday: Pinnick is just foolish, sorry to say. These conversations are supposed to be held quietly. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 12:21pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Eartquake1:he's a cub there ni |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:21pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
komekn: Biggest gaffe of the years by komekn: [b]I know tega personally and he has deep love for Nigeria. [/b]How did I forget to put this |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:24pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
komekn: Biggest gaffe of 2021 loading...... Una never see something. The same komekn will come tomorrow and say that Eze wasn't approached. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:26pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
tbaba1234: Oga tbaba, it doesn't really matter. Foreign born wey wan play for Naija, it doesn't matter whether it is private or public, they will honor the call. How can a player jettison the senior team of Nigeria for U-21 of England and many here are still expressing hope? Una eye no wan clear? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:27pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
I think Hakimi should easily win this
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 12:29pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
darkelf:if he doesn't tell you to quote where he said that or you're lying sha |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:31pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
what made him foolish? he is foolish yet he is the number 1 man in nigerian football while the both of us are in here yelling and wailing as usual tbaba1234: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:33pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
schalke 04 play maker harit was not nominated for the award? caf na waooooo ![]() that bobo na the new coutinho, bobo na serious play maker and may join liverpool next summer jihday: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:44pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Kbs468:not everyone likes to comment Some people are very fine with just reading, observing and agreeing with the comments of others and while your attempts to pull them out of their state of silence is noble, I think it is best to leave people as they are. I have been on Twitter since 2008, I read a lot onTwitter, but for the most part, I don't comment. At best, I retweet and like (akin to sharing and liking here), when I am compelled to post, I will, but that is at my own time. Allow people to do things at their time. We're not in church, there is no meeting after service for new members that step out (and I honestly find that culture of compelling new members to step out as nauseating anyway). Every once in a while, someone new will comment, sometimes, they become regular and other times, they just comment every once in a while. People are different, and calling them out will not make them change. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:45pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Kbs468: You make it very simple but it isn't. There are other considerations. Eze is looking to get a new contract or a transfer in the summer. He stands to earn more staying with England for now than switching to Nigeria. It is all a strategic move to increase earning. This is what their agents tell them. It is not about not wanting to play for Nigeria. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:51pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
charlesemeka85:Pinnick should stop wasting time with these people. This guy has met everybody; Rohr, Mikel, Iwobi, now Pinnick. Who e never meet? Yet, he is still focusing on one yeye club career like Iorfa. Tomorrow, Borough will come and swear on his UK Passport that Nigeria did not try to get him Meanwhile, this one will go and frame this picture and sell it to every press house in the UK, telling them how a green carpet was rolled out for him and Pinnick brought Ogene performers to beg him, while crawling on his hands and knees, to play for Nigeria. I no blame them, na Pinnick and him big belle wey like UK trips pass him life na who I blame. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:53pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
darkelf: Again, it is not simple. Do you know how much pressure Tammy was put under when he took that picture with Pinnick? If Pinnick kept everything silent, he stood a better chance. Did Mali Traore not make a u-turn when Spain came calling? These big countries have more of a pull and pay their nationals better. How does a player jettison the super eagles for England under 21? The chance for more money and endorsements in England. Sometimes, it is not the player's decision. This is what their advisers tell them. Take your time and don't rush. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:05pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
tbaba1234: Put the information out oga. It can't be worse than the rumours already out. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 1:05pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
komekn: Sorry I had to quote long And permit me to reply by numerical reference. 1. Thanks for that and yours is no less valid 2. No need to be CONCERNED for people are ready and willing to do the right things when encouraged 3. I don't think SADIQ's is an example of a failing career right? 4. Absolutely. Selection to SE must fair, measured, objective and without bias nor favouritism 5. That is it. Irrespective of the League as far as it's is majorly recognized and Well rated in quality and management 6. Remember I said very very well and not anyhow Players because of interest and career leverage. Remember that media coverage is key for Players profile boosting, hence the Big money luck from the anticipated SE exposure for the Very very well playing footballers in obscure places and not the average ones 7. I'm not always bothered by the corruption instinct in NFF as far as the Players being proposed are always doing well for NIGERIA. 8 Happy that SADIQ is outside of your normal proposition and what he needs is that exposure to the higher level that SE can guarantee 9. Of course NIGERIA had offered KANU the opportunity of being tested at ARSENAL before, after INTER MILAN refused to following a discovery of heart trouble. 10. SE is definitely for the very best. I agree with you on that. 11. Not that foreign groomed doesn't need the SE for career progression though but what they needed is exposure and they have it already unlike the home grown but they certainly need SE to bigger clubs after probably emerging victorious in any organized tournament 12. Dele Ali, Kante, Mahrez, Gomez, Ademola etc as mentioned, all have the media exposure already because they are not in Serene Leagues but the SE is a sure bet to equally expose those doing very very well 13 George Abbey wasn't a superb talent to be classified as among those I am referencing. I he is part of the anyhow foreign grown I once described on this thread. 14. Let's hope Eze turn out for NIGERIA at the end but left for me, There is no need stressing ourselves over any naturally unwilling soul for the GREEN WHITE GREEN 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:12pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Taliban: What are the rumours out there? The man is dead, water under the bridge. I can do it one on one but not in a public forum. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 1:19pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
tbaba1234:That's exactly my point. There is no need for any visiting. Rather, Let them be and at the right time-If They are willing to play for NIGERIA, They would turn up by self confession because Just like you mentioned that Tammy was put under unnecessary pressure and at the end, the visitation was a Monumental failure on Two fronts including that of Tomori All amounting to wastage of NIGERIA'S tax payers money that could have been deployed to the local frontier |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:21pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
komekn: What's the evidence that Sadiq failed at rangers ? How many games did he even play? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 1:23pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
tbaba1234: We are saying the same thing. Even of pinnick had approached him silently, he would still choose England over Nigeria should southgate come calling. These guys have made up their mind since their youth days to rep England. We just dey waste our time and resources pursuing them 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 1:24pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Kbs468: Gbam. I don't have anything more to add. You've said it all 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:29pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
komekn: So much hypocrisy on a Sunday afternoon! If it was one of ur borough boys playing in the abyss of the league 1 and league 2, u would be screaming "lion in a small league" ! 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 1:33pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
safarigirl:Thanks for your comment as I was only remembering my similar experience on Nairaland though just like I had let out previously. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:34pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Aribo starts for rangers 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:38pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Chima okoroji starts for Jahn Regensburg 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:39pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
darkelf: The same Eze stated clearly that he wanted to play for Nigeria at senior level on QPR TV when he was first invited to England under 20. That video was later taken down. Like i said, it is not simple. The club and Eze gain more financially if he sticks with England now especially with a potential premier league move in the summer. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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