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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 11:32pm On Dec 04, 2019
obixcel:
You want to impeach? Haha Impeachment sef no easy at all!! Majority of the witnesses will always be more like, "so so person told me what the other so so so person heard about what the other so so so person said during a phone call between Mr A and Mr B" grin grin

So why then are you blocking other witnesses from testifying..There is a Yoruba proverb that says "Bi iwo ba se rere ara ki wo wa yaa o"..If you are not guilty,you yourself and your other witnesses would come and testify..By the way,Guess you were not in Kosovo when the number 3 person in america Hilary clinton went to congress and testified over hours again and again..

But the Man you ass lick cant do that because he is Guilty..Which is case Number 1..Obstruction of justice..He has obstructed times without number..Even the republican counsel today said in the muller case,there is ground for impeachment because Trump obstructed justice.. so tell me why he is running away like a little brat that he is..

By the way,Mulvaney already admitted "We do it all the time"

Eyin Olofo

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 11:33pm On Dec 04, 2019
Anduku:

Show me where Trump ever brought up someone's teenage kids in a political attack or take your stupid pontifications and shove it where the sun don't shine. Nonsense!!!
All they do is throw cheap shots, It's a sign of desperation. They are throwing everything to the ring.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kopfschmerzens: 11:36pm On Dec 04, 2019
Anduku:
What a lineup of impeachment witnesses the Democrats brought up today supposedly to provide objective and fair analysis,
Harvard Law prof Noah Feldman has been publicly pushing for impeachment since very shortly after Donald Trump was inaugurated. And Stanford Law prof Pamela Karlan was caught on camera saying she detests Trump so much she had to cross the street rather than simply walking by the Trump hotel.

non-partisan and unbiased indeed!!! imagined being too childish that you can't walk past a building because it's owned by Trump.

Feldmann was against impeachment till the Ukrainegate, even dumbass Gaertz read his previous opinion on impeachment to blackmail him. Go look for another good lie mr Trump ass licker. Why did Gaertz not wait for Ms Karlan to answer is partisan accusation crap.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 11:48pm On Dec 04, 2019
Trump would have saved himself a lot of these shenanigans if he didn't block the likes of Mulvaney, Bolton, or Pompeo from testifying. Who knows whether those three gentlemen may have essentially exonerated Trump from the quid quo pro allegations.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:53pm On Dec 04, 2019
It has gotten better, much better. smiley There is hope.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 11:57pm On Dec 04, 2019
As Prof Karlan has apologized, we also hope Trump apologizes for the falsehoods and insults he has dished out to various people.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 11:58pm On Dec 04, 2019
Kopfschmerzens:


Feldmann was against impeachment till the Ukrainegate, even dumbass Gaertz read his previous opinion on impeachment to blackmail him. Go look for another good lie mr Trump ass licker. Why did Gaertz not wait for Ms Karlan to answer is partisan accusation crap.
You're a bloody liar!!! Feldman has several tweets talking in favour of impeachment as far back as 2017

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 12:12am On Dec 05, 2019
You can see right through this angry 'expert' Karlan, irrespective of her legal pedigree. Short of foam coming out of her lips. this isn’t a testimony, it’s liberal activism live on a nationally televised stage.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 12:12am On Dec 05, 2019
Today’s Republican witness Jonathan Turley opposes impeaching Trump, yet he supported impeaching Bill Clinton in 1998. Here’s what he told Congress back then: “If you decide that certain acts do not rise to impeachable offenses, you will expand the space for executive conduct.”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1202276648936235013

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:28am On Dec 05, 2019
Kamala Harris's husband tweets photo of couple after she drops White House bid, titled 'I've got you'
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/472829-kamala-harriss-husband-tweets-photo-of-couple-after

Yea, I've got you, since no body else wanted you grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 12:31am On Dec 05, 2019
So far today, the Democrats have directly or indirectly identified[b] 5 potential areas of impeachable offenses[/b]: extortion, abuse of power by using the DOJ to investigate political rivals and personally intimidating witnesses, obstruction of congress by failing to make documents and testimony available and interfering with Congressional-authorised funds to Ukraine, violation of election law by soliciting a thing of value from a foreign power and violation of the constitution's foreign emoluments clause.

The Democrat strategy - is that they made the case for impeachment from a constitutional standpoint and in plain language, shredded several Trump defenses, discredited Turley, (especially by Rep Neguese from Colorado) connected dots for the slow folk, built upon the Intel Committee's hearings and report, established Trump's pattern of bad behaviour - and we are not done for the day yet.

What people here should understand is that President Trump is not being tried for criminal offense, but for civil offence, similar to someone being investigated by their human resources department for not doing his job effectively. That fellow gets fired, period.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:34am On Dec 05, 2019
coluka:


I Don't know why you are applauding that, it's actually plain disgusting and disgraceful to be taking such a cheap shot at a 13-year-old boy and dragging his name into a political hearing in public. anyone with basic common sense should know that.
indeed! The level of hate runs deep...so deep!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 12:36am On Dec 05, 2019
Kopfschmerzens:


You slowpoke go back and listen to Gaertz line of questioning, and chairman Nadler opening question on why he changed his mind on impeachment. Are y'all cows all dumb-headed low lifers.
As usual, after you've been exposed as a bloody liar, you have nothing else to offer except throwing insults around like a bad child. take your L gracefully and more importantly, stop lying!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kopfschmerzens: 12:38am On Dec 05, 2019
Anduku:

As usual, after you've been exposed as a bloody liar, you have nothing else to offer except
throwing insults around like a bad child. take your L gracefully and more importantly, stop lying!!

Expose as liar? You are a joke. This shit happen just few hours ago in the same hearings. Are you born head first slam on a concrete floor. Your level of dumbness is absolutely out of this world. Go and watch the hearing again this time with your brain plugged on.

" Until the July 25 call, i was an impeachment skeptic" - Feldmann. This slowpoke should come and dispute this.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 12:53am On Dec 05, 2019
Kopfschmerzens:


Feldmann was against impeachment till the Ukrainegate, even dumbass Gaertz read his previous opinion on impeachment to blackmail him. Go look for another good lie mr Trump ass licker. Why did Gaertz not wait for Ms Karlan to answer is partisan accusation crap.

Are you not the one that made the above bolded claim about Feldman when his tweets clearly Show him talking in favour of impeachment as far back as 2017 both you and Feldman are bloody liars !!!

Kopfschmerzens:


Expose as liar? You are joke. This shit happen just few hours ago in the same hearings. Are you born head first slam on a concrete floor. Your level of dumbness is absolutely out of this world. Go and watch the hearing again this time with your brain plugged on.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 12:59am On Dec 05, 2019
I am still waiting for Trump to apologize for falsely claiming that Obama was not a natural-born U.S. citizen. But, we all know there is a 99.99% chance that he would call it 'fake news'. Trump is a joke for real cheesy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 1:00am On Dec 05, 2019
Kopfschmerzens:


Expose as liar? You are a joke. This shit happen just few hours ago in the same hearings. Are you born head first slam on a concrete floor. Your level of dumbness is absolutely out of this world. Go and watch the hearing again this time with your brain plugged on.

" Until the July 25 call, i was an impeachment skeptic" - Feldmann. This slowpoke should come and dispute this.
Dispute his own tweets from 2017. Does This look like an impeachment skeptic?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kopfschmerzen12: 5:07am On Dec 05, 2019
Try to fact check GOP goons and the ban fall on you ASAP.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kopfschmerzen12: 5:37am On Dec 05, 2019
Anduku:

Dispute his own tweets from 2017. Does This look like an impeachment skeptic?

Ok boomer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzbEh1a2ivU
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:04am On Dec 05, 2019
Mindfulness:


You don't have to convince me that Trump operates like a mob boss. The problem is that they need Republican vote for impeachment and they won't get it so after that Trump will triumph as he always does repeating how innocent he is and how unfairly treated he has been. It's a dejavu, isn't it. Does the Muller report ring a bell?
I am glad you admit trump behaves like a mob boss, and like a mob boss he tries all he can to avoid investigation and prosecution.
Just like a mob boss, he asks others to do his dirty jobs and let them take the fall if any thing goes wrong.
Just like a mafia boss, he threatens, intimidates and tampers with witnesses. He has prevented all his staff and workers from testifying or submitting any evidence.
He himself has refused to testify before the congress or any investigative body.

Just like a mafia boss, he repeats loudly, I am innocent even while committing crimes, because he believes he can bend the law to his advantage.

Where I blame the Democrats, is that they should have gone to the courts to get Trump, Bolton and members of his cabinet to them to testify and to get the documents they require by congress. It might take time and energy, but it will set precedence.
If Trump disregard congress and get away with it, then America is gradually slipping into dictatorship. Next president would definitely be worse.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 8:08am On Dec 05, 2019
PDPGuy:


You really think she was attacking Baron Trump?
You think it's perfectly acceptable to use the name of President Trump's 13-year-old son to score political points in public she shouldn't have dragged his name into this for any reason.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:34am On Dec 05, 2019
coluka:

You think it's perfectly acceptable to use the name of President Trump's 13-year-old son to score political points in public she shouldn't have dragged his name into this for any reason.
You guys enjoy every vile insults Trump heaps on all others and their families, but get cry sensisitive at the slightest remark on Trump's family. Trump had called Ted cruz's wife names, Trump had insulted women, disabled people, purple heart veterans, as long as they disagree on any point with Trump, you guys laugh it off.

Yes, I also feel bringing Trump's family into the impeachment hearing is in bad taste, but then Trump had lowered the standard for decency and such things are now seen as normal.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 9:04am On Dec 05, 2019
Andrew Yang on Impeachment: ‘This Is Going to Be a Loser’

Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang on Wednesday said attacks on President Donald Trump have been ineffective and may ultimately increase his reelection chances.

"It seems like all we can do is throw ineffective rocks at Donald Trump, and then it ends up leading unfortunately toward his reelection,"

"I’m pro-impeachment, but this is going to be a loser,"

Yang argued the media's focus on Trump only helps the president and that Democrats are wasting time when they should be focused on "creating a positive vision" that will excite Americans.

"If all that happens is all of the Democrats are talking about impeachment that fails, then it seems like there is no vision," Yang said.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/yang-on-impeachment-this-is-going-to-be-a-loser/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 5:32pm On Dec 05, 2019
Impeachment Circus continues

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:33pm On Dec 05, 2019
Laughing Stock of the World

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/laughing-stock-of-world/23398/

We’ve seen U.S. Presidents try to influence the rest of the world via diplomacy, and we’ve seen U.S. Presidents try to influence the rest of the world via intimidation. We’ve seen them act in good and bad faith. We’ve seen them succeed and fail. But we’ve never seen a U.S. President try to influence the world via pointlessly psychotic narcissism – until now. Nor have we ever seen a U.S. President fail on the world stage so blatantly and humiliatingly.

It’s one thing for Justin Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron to openly mock Donald Trump while standing in an open room, knowing full well that someone was going to overhear them. Yes, they’re leaders of U.S. allies. But they’re liberals, so they merely need to keep the liberals and moderates in their own countries happy, and they gain points with those demographics when they distance themselves from Trump. But they weren’t the only ones in this conversation.

Boris Johnson is the UK version of Donald Trump. He’s an unpopular far-right racist oaf, and no one is quite sure how he ended up in charge of his country. Johnson is facing an election next week. In theory, his base in the UK is the same demographic as Trump’s base in the United States. Yet even Johnson clearly wanted in on the joke when Trudeau began mocking Trump. Johnson is more politically savvy than he pretends. He made the calculation that he could gain points with UK voters – even though he’s a far-right conservative himself – by being seen dissing Trump.

Donald Trump is the laughing stock of the world. He’s turned the United States into the laughing stock of the world. Trudeau and Macron know it. Trump’s own would-be ally Boris Johnson knows it. America’s allies run away from Trump. America’s adversaries exploit Trump. The guy is a complete joke – and everyone knows it but him. Donald Trump is far too mentally compromised to realize that he’s the biggest punchline in American history, even as he watches world leaders stand around and laugh at him.

...this article is so on point...even The Times newspaper from UK showed this picture...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUSdf-_xmJg

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 5:34pm On Dec 05, 2019
Strange Things are happening (Part 4)
Democrat Congress Member, Al Green, complained at the floor of the house that the Composition of the members of the Judiciary Committee did not include a 'person of color' grin grin
"Mr. Speaker I rise because I love my country! But I also rise today with heartfelt regrets. It hurts my heart, Mr Speaker, to see the Judiciary Committee - hearing experts on the topic of impeachment - one of the similar issues of this Congress. Hearing experts! Mr Speaker, and not one person of color among the experts. What subliminal message are we sending to the world when we have experts and not one person of color - are we saying that there are no people of color who are experts on the topic of impeachment? What is the message that we are sendin?!"
grin grin
ME: I love how Al Green misses the fact that the "experts" he's complaining about were primarily selected by his own party. Party of Race baiting experts indeed.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:57pm On Dec 05, 2019
...Photos that speaks volume between #45 & #44....compare and contrast...

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 6:21pm On Dec 05, 2019
obixcel:
Impeachment Circus continues

...But the report coming from within the Democrats is quite different according to the CNN Senior Global Affairs Analyst....they will rather 'censure' instead of 'impeaching' Trump...

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/472807-cnns-bianna-golodryga-rumblings-within-democrats-on-censuring-trump-instead-of

CNN senior global affairs analyst Bianna Golodryga said Tuesday that she's hearing “rumblings” within the Democratic caucus that perhaps the party “should just go with censure” instead of trying to impeach President Trump.

"You’re now hearing rumblings within, Democrats saying, 'Maybe we should just go with censure,' or not really knowing how to move forward on this given where the president is and given where Republicans are," said Golodryga, who joined CNN after stints with ABC, CBS and Yahoo News.

She pointed out that two weeks of public testimony on Trump’s dealings with Ukraine “did not move at all” the positions of Republicans ranging from moderates such as Rep. Will Hurd (Texas) to more vocal Trump defenders such as Rep. Elise Stefanik (N.Y.).

"They said that they do not believe anything the president did was impeachable and, in fact, they seem to be protecting the president more than they were prior to these two weeks,” she said.

Polls in 2020 battleground states indicate that voters aren’t fully sold on House Democrats’ impeachment efforts.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 8:56pm On Dec 05, 2019
TheShopKeeper:


...But the report coming from within the Democrats is quite different according to the CNN Senior Global Affairs Analyst....they will rather 'censure' instead of 'impeaching' Trump...

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/472807-cnns-bianna-golodryga-rumblings-within-democrats-on-censuring-trump-instead-of

CNN senior global affairs analyst Bianna Golodryga said Tuesday that she's hearing “rumblings” within the Democratic caucus that perhaps the party “should just go with censure” instead of trying to impeach President Trump.

"You’re now hearing rumblings within, Democrats saying, 'Maybe we should just go with censure,' or not really knowing how to move forward on this given where the president is and given where Republicans are," said Golodryga, who joined CNN after stints with ABC, CBS and Yahoo News.

She pointed out that two weeks of public testimony on Trump’s dealings with Ukraine “did not move at all” the positions of Republicans ranging from moderates such as Rep. Will Hurd (Texas) to more vocal Trump defenders such as Rep. Elise Stefanik (N.Y.).

"They said that they do not believe anything the president did was impeachable and, in fact, they seem to be protecting the president more than they were prior to these two weeks,” she said.

Polls in 2020 battleground states indicate that voters aren’t fully sold on House Democrats’ impeachment efforts.
Email this to Shiff and Nadler wink

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:01pm On Dec 05, 2019
TheShopKeeper:
...Photos that speaks volume between #45 & #44....compare and contrast...
That reminds me of a Verse "Woe unto you if all men speak well of you, for so did the fathers to the false prophets...."

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