Ibime:


Not really. I used to like him at Hull. The way he behaved at Watford killed his Goodwill and I'm sure ultimately ended his top level career.

raumdeuter:


Explain how a defender was MOTM while the keeper he was supposed to be defending was having 8 saves in a match. A CL final record number of saves
How can you say you security is working yet you faced 8 attacks

So why did VVD not save Liverpool in 2018 final, So if they had a better keeper and won thats how you would have told us they won the final because of VVD

raumdeuter:


In a game of 180mins he has scored 2 goals already, let the other 10 players do their part

timbros:


This will be my last reply to you on this debate. I don't think you understand me when I say you should look at the context of the discussion at hand.

A defender winning Ballon D'or (individual award) has nothing to do with a team winning UCL (team trophy).

Someone said that without VVD, Liverpool won't win UCL and I'm here trying to correct that comment, pointing out other aspects of Liverpool's game that gave them success e.g their full backs who supply large chunk of assists in the past 2 seasons, their attackers who have been prolific in front of goal, the way the team has blended having played together for like 4 seasons, the world class 'keeper they signed etc...

It's not just VVD that changed Liverpool but a host of reasons so no one should peddle this lie of "if not VVD..."

Whether he wins Ballon D'or or not is not my concern. The teams success is what I am talking about.

Thank you.

raumdeuter:


Over 2 legs Messi scored 2 goals, name any player from either sides who scored more than him

Ibime:


My nigga is free!

Freshprince91:



Never say Never! This bloke may eventually rule this country someday.

raumdeuter:


Did he score 2 goals?

airmark:


So, any attacker that didn't score 2 goals over 2 legs, didn't do his job. So Torres didn't do his job in 2012, when he scored his solitary goal at Nou camp.

Foolishness in full glare.

kendrick93:
shots faced were mostly from outside the box and other non threatening areas....
If all defence can limit the opposing team to shooting outside then it's done it's job well

airmark:


So, any attacker that didn't score 2 goals over 2 legs, didn't do his job. So Torres didn't do his job in 2012, when he scored his solitary goal at Nou camp.

Foolishness in full glare.

kendrick93:
shots faced were mostly from outside the box and other non threatening areas....
If all defence can limit the opposing team to shooting outside then it's done it's job well

airmark:


Raudeuter transferring his monkey post football knowledge to pro football.

raumdeuter:


You are so dumb. Without Torres goal, Chelsea would still have qualified but you are to foolish to notice

macjireh:

he's a GOAT for goodness sake if d odas can't do their part,, he has to show he's indeed a GOAT

airmark:




Your memory failed you as you didn't know that goal destroyed the immense pressure Barca put on Chelsea and we were about to crack before Torres scored.

How many goals did Iniesta score in the semifinal tie against Chelsea in ucl 2019? No Barcelona attacker did his job in that tie.

raumdeuter:


[s]If foolishness was not embedded into your genes you will realize Iniesta 1 goal was enough because the defence did not concede 4 goals

It would be basic common sense to others but to you its impossible logic[/s]

airmark:


Ode, did Barcelona attackers do their jobs in the tie? NOOOOOO.

raumdeuter:


Barcelona attackers scored how many goals in the tie?
So what is the illogic you are trying to push

raumdeuter:


Did you watch the game? Allison was making saves after save. Shots outside the box like the one Fabinho had against City? A defender who does his job ensure the keeper faced minimum shots

You are here trying to sell us that a defence who leaked 9 goals in 2 semis was responsible for making back to back semi finals not the attack that scored outscored the opposition with 11 goals

HewlettPackard:
Rearrested.


How person go take leave this country?

HewlettPackard:
Rearrested.


How person go take leave this country?

airmark:


You claimed that Suarez despite scoring a goal in the tie against Liverpool, didn't do his job. You blamed him for Barca loss. But Barca's attackers did their jobs against Chelsea in 2009, with just a goal. You see how foolish your logic is, now?

kendrick93:
How can a defender stop an opposing player from taking shots outside the box? Sorry but that's not possible in reality
In the final, how many one on one saves did Allison make? tell me.
How come Van djik won the man of the match then?

HewlettPackard:
Rearrested.


How person go take leave this country?

raumdeuter:


No attacker outscored Messi in the tie. He has done his own job.
Let other players do their own too. Messi can't be carrying them all alone everytime.

Leyqute:


You can’t fault him for being ambitious na. But I agree the way he flirted back at Everton was inappropriate.

izzou:


Even chased the judge sef

Anybody supporting this present government is stupid. And if the person is educated, he is veery very stupid