cerpvad:
Look at the bolded. Don't you think you have just confirmed that Christmas is INCONSEQUENTIAL?

Show us the bible verse that condemned celebrating birthdays
Or bible verse saying celebrating birth of Jesus is evil


I know you will still come out to say that there are things that were not written in the bible that you have to assume for jesus

cerpvad:
Look at the bolded. Don't you think you have just confirmed that Christmas is INCONSEQUENTIAL?

inconsequential to God. That means it is not important to God therefore it cannot be a worship to God and it's a mere Christian celebration that brings happiness to man.
That's why i asked you the question initially, do you watch television?, you say yes!
why?
Because watching television is entertaining, it brings happiness.
But your watching television is inconsequential to God: it is not important to God and can never be a worship to God.

If Christmas brings you happiness and yet it is INCONSEQUENTIAL to God, that means you have placed your happiness above God. What you are saying is that ' Mr. God, Bleep off, I dont care if celebrating Christmas pleases you, so far I am happy doing it, I am good to go." So if you dont please God, who do you please? Yourself or the Devil?

paxonel:
inconsequential to God. That means it is not important to God therefore it cannot be a worship to God and it's a mere Christian celebration that brings happiness to man.
That's why i asked you the question initially, do you watch television?, you say yes!
why?
Because watching television is entertaining, it brings happiness.
But your watching television is inconsequential to God: it is not important to God and can never be a worship to God.

Hairyrapunzel:


Show us the bible verse that condemned celebrating birthdays
Or bible verse saying celebrating birth of Jesus is evil


I know you will still come out to say that there are things that were not written in the bible that you have to assume for jesus

Look at the bolded. That is the Gospel truth. Take it or leave it

cerpvad:
Look at the bolded. That is the Gospel truth. Take it or leave it

Since you have to assume for jesus that means your assumption is right abi?

Your assumption is not even true. There is no evidence to even show that your assumption is true because the bible never mentioned such. Therefore your assumption is false.

Last last your assumption is not written in the bible. I follow only the bible. Your words are false.

If you are right Catholics are eight on mary and purgatory.

Sabby1:
Regardless of date or origin, If I no celebrate Christ at least once a year, wetin I gain.

Happy Christmas Nairalanders

Exactly the whole idea. I don't know why they make it like some complicated matter

cerpvad:
Look at the bolded. That is the Gospel truth. Take it or leave it

Since you have to assume for jesus that means your assumption is right abi?

Your assumption is not even true. There is no evidence to even show that your assumption is true because the bible never mentioned such. Therefore your assumption is false.

Last last your assumption is not written in the bible. I follow only the bible. Your words are false.

If you are right Catholics are eight on mary and purgatory.

Not all assumptions are made from written documents. You need to go and take a course in Deductive Reasoning.

Hairyrapunzel:


Since you have to assume for jesus that means your assumption is right abi?

Your assumption is not even true. There is no evidence to even show that your assumption is true because the bible never mentioned such. Therefore your assumption is false.

Last last your assumption is not written in the bible. I follow only the bible. Your words are false.

If you are right Catholics are eight on mary and purgatory.

IMASTEX:

The verse is neither none will you find one verse in the Bible celebrating or asking Christians to keep His birthday as a memorial, as a against the clear instructions for His death. You didn't answer my earlier direct question, was it omitted? Hence it mades it a custom & tradition thing without biblical base. Let's align with the later since we can infuse what will believe is okay. That also made the mode of celebrating it justifiable. I.e. Use of Santa Claus, heavy drinking, the other room for singles on the eve.
I had signed out quoting Paul's. To some a particular day is more important and to another everyday is same, let all be as long as it is unto the Lord.
Peace!

Oga if celebrating the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ dey pain you, go hit your head for ground so that the pain go enter you wella.

Metinoning those drinking to stupor and fornicating in the name of celebration of Christmas is out of what we're discussing. I don't think there's any church that advocate for such type of celebration.

Merry Christmas!

mgbadadike:

Oga if celebrating the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ dey pain you, go hit your head for ground so that the pain go enter you wella.

You just clearly defined your level of maturity. I pray you develop quickly to know when to type without been abusive in a common biblical debate and to also accept Christ. No wonder you had vague biblical references, I mistake you for an enlightened person. Your quote will be ignored thus.

cerpvad:
If Christmas brings you happiness and yet it is INCONSEQUENTIAL to God

thank God you have understood it to this point

that means you have placed your happiness above God.

I never said so!
Did i tell you anything like that?
a child who is happy playing football with his friends at the field can never be said that he is placing his happiness at the field over his father who is watching TV at home, who is not interested in what the body is doing at the field because his playing football at the field is INCONSEQUENTIAL to him and the fact that the boy remains his child, so long the boy comes back home after enjoying his football.

What you are saying is that ' Mr. God, Bleep off, I dont care if celebrating Christmas pleases you,

nobody is talking about trying to please God here, you are just being afraid like a child who is not instructed by his father not to play football with his friends and he tells himself my father is going to flog me if i go out to play football, so he deprived himself of enjoying football with his friends.
When the father comes back he will ask him, did i stop you from going out to play football with your friends why are you punishing yourself for nothing?

so far I am happy doing it, I am good to go." So if you dont please God, who do you please? Yourself or the Devil?

I have told.
God don't intrude on people's will and force them to please him, he is not a clown like that.

Christmas has been celebrated only God knows when it started, God never one day come down to slap anyone for celebrating Christmas all that while, so why are you afraid?

IMASTEX:

You just clearly defined your level of maturity. I pray you develop quickly to know when to type without been rude in a common biblical debate and to also accept Christ.

You are over matured and doesn't need prayer, because you're not rude in a common biblical debate and you don't need to accept Christ.

Na your type dey boost of how you hold key to heaven's gate.

Tell me how heavy drinking and fornicating relates to celebration of the birth of our saviour Lord Jesus Christ?

Or have you seen any churches that listed heavy drinking and fornication as mode of celebrating Christmas?

Whether Christmas celebration or not, people will always drink alcohol and young ones will also fornicate.

So don't use that to justify your points.

Why didn't you mention those charities that took place in different places just because of Christmas? Oh I forgot you won't see those ones.

Biko no mention me again, I don't need any debate with your type.

If celebrating the birth of my personal saviour my Lord Jesus Christ is a sin, I will love to be committing it every seconds of the day.

From your last lines, I can deduct that either you or your approaches are agnostic. If this is so, you neither have business with Christianity nor Christmas. However, what are your last words?We can't drag this argument till eternity

paxonel:
thank God you have understood it to this point
I never said so!
Did i tell you anything like that?
a child who is happy playing football with his friends at the field can never be said that he is placing his happiness at the field over his father who is watching TV at home, who is not interested in what the body is doing at the field because his playing football at the field is INCONSEQUENTIAL to him and the fact that the boy remains his child, so long the boy comes back home after enjoying his football.
nobody is talking about trying to please God here, you are just being afraid like a child who is not instructed by his father not to play football with his friends and he tells himself my father is going to flog me if i go out to play football, so he deprived himself of enjoying football with his friends.
When the father comes back he will ask him, did i stop you from going out to play football with your friends why are you punishing yourself for nothing?
I have told.
God don't intrude on people's will and force them to please him, he is not a clown like that.

Christmas has been celebrated only God knows when it started, God never one day come down to slap anyone for celebrating Christmas all that while, so why are you afraid?

cerpvad:
Not all assumptions are made from written documents. You need to go and take a course in Deductive Reasoning.

That's why they are assumptions. There is no proof that is true.


Ok show me proof that Jesus said we should not celebrate his birthday.

The only commands I obey is that from Jesus. If Jesus didn't make any command like that then it's a big lie.

cerpvad:
Not all assumptions are made from written documents. You need to go and take a course in Deductive Reasoning.

Deductive reasoning my foot. Avenue to lie and brainwash people as usual.

Let me give you your foolish deductive reasoning.

Pagan celebrations are bad.
25th of dec was used to worship the sun god but Christians later Changed this practice to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ instead.
Therefore, Christmas is of pagan origins since Christmas celebration is on the same day they used as pagan celebration
Therefore, christmas is bad. Although bible never said so


You have not only lied but have deceived people via your so called crafty deductive reasoning.


You no fit fool me.

cerpvad:
From your last lines, I can deduct that either you or your approaches are agnostic. If this is so, you neither have business with Christianity nor Christmas. However, what are your last words?We can't drag this argument till eternity

have you ever seen or heard an agnostic vehemently support Christmas or Christianity or Jesus Christ like you have seen in all my posts?

My regards to Daddy freeze.
Compliment of the season.

Thanks and same to you.

paxonel:
have you ever seen or heard an agnostic vehemently support Christmas or Christianity or Jesus Christ like you have seen in all my posts?

My regards to Daddy freeze.
Compliment of the season.

mgbadadike:


Where was it written in the Bible that celebrating someone's birth is a sin?

So celebrating that our Lord Jesus Christ took human flesh and came into this world to save us is a sin?

dear, it is written in the Bible that the day of death is better than the day of birth and going to the house of mourning is better than going to a party. why this passages do not discourage celebration, it's gives a context to the issue on ground.
if u must celebrate our christ birth (which we do really thank God for), why must we do it on a day that has a pagan origin and with pagan totems and unscriptural objects like the Christmas tree, Santa Claus, star etc.
if you feel something history doesn't matter, I ask u if u would still lick a candy that was gotten from a gutter even after it has been cleaned?

mgbadadike:
Jesus Christ wasn't born on the 25th of December, but 25th December was chosen to celebrate the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ.

So what's wrong with it?

Its the same birth of the pagan god Horus. Constantine came up with the lie that the false deity Jesus was born on December 25 in order to convert the pagans to Christianity. He knew the pagans would never give up their yearly festival on December 25 so he created the lie so the pagans can convert to Christianity and keep their festival as well.

khia:


Its the same birth of the pagan god Horus. Constantine came up with the lie that the false deity Jesus was born on December 25 in order to convert the pagans to Christianity. He knew the pagans would never give up their yearly festival on December 25 so he created the lie so the pagans can convert to Christianity and keep their festival as well.

Last last pagans where converted to christianity. Last last Dec 25th was made for a Christian purpose to convert pagans to Christianity.

Other festivals are celebrated on 25th of dec too.

Your irk is such that are recalcitrantly adamant with texual fact. This is because you are ignorant that a text doesn't exist without a context. It besmirches one's heart to read from people like you who are eternally ignorantly tied to the belief that 'if it not written in the Bible, then, it didn't happen or it is false.' Tell me, is it only the things written in the Bible that your Daddy G. O's. use to preach to and deceive you people every time?

The other side of your woes also appears to be the belief that whatever Daddy G. Ó says is always right. Your caricature can equally be found in Boxer, a donkey character in George Orwell's Animal Farm, who believed fanatically in the Animals Leadership. 'Napoleon is always right' that is his donkey maxim with which he bought himself a lifetime slavery and his eventual death. Many of you are archetypes of the donkey character and your maxim today is 'Our Daddy G. Ó is always right'

Hairyrapunzel:


Deductive reasoning my foot. Avenue to lie and brainwash people as usual.

Let me give you your foolish deductive reasoning.

Pagan celebrations are bad.
25th of dec was used to worship the sun god but Christians later Changed this practice to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ instead.
Therefore, Christmas is of pagan origins since Christmas celebration is on the same day they used as pagan celebration
Therefore, christmas is bad. Although bible never said so


You have not only lied but have deceived people via your so called crafty deductive reasoning.


You no fit fool me.

thinkmoney:

dear, it is written in the Bible that the day of death is better than the day of birth and going to the house of mourning is better than going to a party. why this passages do not discourage celebration, it's gives a context to the issue on ground.
if u must celebrate our christ birth (which we do really thank God for), why must we do it on a day that has a pagan origin and with pagan totems and unscriptural objects like the Christmas tree, Santa Claus, star etc.
if you feel something history doesn't matter, I ask u if u would still lick a candy that was gotten from a gutter even after it has been cleaned?

Like dec 25th was made for only pagans. In fact God made specific days for pagans so he doesn't want to try pagans that's why Christians should not celebrate anything on that day.


So I should not celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ on dec 25th because pagans probably used that day to worship their gods gazillion years ago?

It's like your jehovah said that dec 25th is the specific day he has chosen for pagans to celebrate their gods and Christians should never use same day or else he will murder them.


Funny enough you guys never say Christmas on dec 25th is a pagan celebration. You just say dec 25th was a pagan festival day that was used to convert pagans to christianity. Lol

Hairyrapunzel:


Last last pagans where converted to christianity. Last last Dec 25th was made for a Christian purpose to convert pagans to Christianity.

Other festivals are celebrated on 25th of dec too.

The point is, it's only one of the many lies of Christianity.

cerpvad:
Your irk is such that are recalcitrantly adamant with texual fact. This is because you are ignorant that a text doesn't exist without a context. It besmirches one's heart to read from people like you who are eternally ignorantly tied to the belief that 'if it not written in the Bible, then, it didn't happen or it is false.' Tell me, is it only the things written in the Bible that your Daddy G. O's. use to preach to and deceive you people every time?

The other side of your woes also appears to be the belief that whatever Daddy G. Ó says is always right. Your caricature can equally be found in Boxer, a donkey character in George Orwell's Animal Farm, who believed fanatically in the Animals Leadership. 'Napoleon is always right' that is his donkey maxim with which he bought himself a lifetime slavery and his eventual death. Many of you are archetypes of the donkey character and your maxim today is 'Our Daddy G. Ó is always right'

Show us proof that your assumption is true?

No proof.

See painment all because I said your assumption is not written anywhere in the bible. Lol

If it's not written in the bible that means it's false. I don't believe in daddy GO's either. I only believe in Jesus words which are seen only in the bible.


Your assumption doesn't exist till you show a bible verse that shows it exists.


All your vexation just because I told you to provide proof for your assumption?


Well, your assumption is invalid and false till you provide proof.

khia:


The point is, it's only one of the many lies of Christianity.

Another lie by you people is saying Christmas is pagan because pagans used dec 25th to celebrate their gods.

Hairyrapunzel:



Another lie by you people is saying Christmas is pagan because pagans used dec 25th to celebrate their gods.

The false Egyptian God Horus (birthday..Dec 25) was created thousands of years before the christian false deity Jesus was created.

Check this out, according to the history of the pagan god Horus, his mother gave a miraculous virgin birth, Horus was born in a manger in a stable with his mother ISIS next to him.

Horus was to be the savior of the world, the fighter of darkness, the light of the world. Does all of this sound familiar and mind you this story was created thousands of years before the story of your Jesus?

Boiz2men, this is only one opening there are many more.

cerpvad:
Your irk is such that are recalcitrantly adamant with texual fact. This is because you are ignorant that a text doesn't exist without a context. It besmirches one's heart to read from people like you who are eternally ignorantly tied to the belief that 'if it not written in the Bible, then, it didn't happen or it is false.' Tell me, is it only the things written in the Bible that your Daddy G. O's. use to preach to and deceive you people every time?

The other side of your woes also appears to be the belief that whatever Daddy G. Ó says is always right. Your caricature can equally be found in Boxer, a donkey character in George Orwell's Animal Farm, who believed fanatically in the Animals Leadership. 'Napoleon is always right' that is his donkey maxim with which he bought himself a lifetime slavery and his eventual death. Many of you are archetypes of the donkey character and your maxim today is 'Our Daddy G. Ó is always right'

So I should believe secular textual writings of facts that are varying and considered unknown right?

Show me proof that Jesus said we should not celebrate his birthday in the bible?

This is new to me o. Or did they tell you guys that bible isn't enough to get Jesus's words from? And that you have to rely on same secular sources that you say will be killed/slaughtered by your jehovah because they don't do gb doing?


It's you guys that will use bible to start condemning celebrating Christmas eg
Date of death is better than date of birth or christ didn't command you to celebrate his birth.

But when they tell you guys to show us where Jesus condemned celebrating his birth you start saying that it must not be in the bible in fact it is not bible that should determine your beliefs on this aspect.

Hypocrites

khia:

The false Egyptian God Horus (birthday..Dec 25) was created thousands of years before the christian false deity Jesus was created.

Check this out, according to the history of the pagan god Horus, his mother gave a miraculous virgin birth, Horus was born in a manger in a stable with his mother ISIS next to him.

Horus was to be the savior of the world, the fighter of darkness, the light of the world. Does all of this sound familiar and mind you this story was created thousands of years before the story of your Jesus?

Ok at least they are both false. Let's celebrate our false in peace.

Different stories sef for this dec 25th. Different gods being celebrated on that same day gazillion years ago.
We have decided to celebrate Jesus on dec 25th.

Hairyrapunzel:


Like dec 25th was made for only pagans. In fact God made specific days for pagans so he doesn't want to try pagans that's why Christians should not celebrate anything on that day.


So I should not celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ on dec 25th because pagans probably used that day to worship their gods gazillion years ago?

It's like your jehovah said that dec 25th is the specific day he has chosen for pagans to celebrate their gods and Christians should never use same day or else he will murder them.


Funny enough you guys never say Christmas on dec 25th is a pagan celebration. You just say dec 25th was a pagan festival day that was used to convert pagans to christianity. Lol

I won't go on with u. U just said something that have allowed me weigh ur Bible knowledge. how could u insinuate God has made some days for pagans?!. to cap it up though, Jesus asked us to mark his death. if he had wanted us to celebrate his birth I am sure he would have told us. the apostles marked his death but didn't celebrate his birth. this practice went on for 300 years after Christ death until apostasy crept into Christianity. these early Christians including the apostles were closer to the time of Christ. they are worthy of emulation.
remember the Bible warned against adding or removing a DOT(.) from what it says.

Hairyrapunzel:


Ok at least they are both false. Let's celebrate our false in peace.

Different stories sef for this dec 25th. Different gods being celebrated on that same day gazillion years ago.
We have decided to celebrate Jesus on dec 25th.

The Most High *Yah* said not to worship any false deities or idols but suit yourself.

thinkmoney:

I won't go on with u. U just said something that have allowed me weigh ur Bible knowledge. how could u insinuate God has made some days for pagans?!. to cap it up though, Jesus asked us to mark his death. if he had wanted us to celebrate his birth I am sure he would have told us. the apostles marked his death but didn't celebrate his birth. this practice went on for 300 years after Christ death until apostasy crept into Christianity. these early Christians including the apostles were closer to the time of Christ. they are worthy of emulation.
remember the Bible warned against adding or removing a DOT(.) from what it says.

Jehovah made a specific date for pagans to celebrate their gods and warned Christians from celebrating anything on those days.


If Jesus didn't want us celebrate His birth He would have still said it.

2 Tim 3:16

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.


It's like as pagans used dec 25th to celebrate their gods that means that day is specific only for their use as Christians can't celebrate their Jesus.

khia:


The Most High *Yah* said not to worship any false deities or idols but suit yourself.

Because Jesus Christ is a false deity and an idol right?