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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Roycemadeit(m): 8:56am On Dec 29, 2019 |
Do not, therefore, look to God to somehow "fix everything in the end” by imposing some form of celestial justice in the "afterlife.” I tell you this: There is no "afterlife,” but only life. Death does not exist. And the way we experience and create our life, as individuals and as a society, is our demonstration of what we think is just. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by englishmart(m): 8:59am On Dec 29, 2019 |
Roycemadeit:So you chose to be born a Nigerian? LMFAO ![]() ![]() ![]() 20 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Mustack: 9:00am On Dec 29, 2019 |
englishmart: Theres no harm in trying my bro. Even if it's the last thing you can do 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Mcuzy(m): 9:04am On Dec 29, 2019 |
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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Roycemadeit(m): 9:07am On Dec 29, 2019 |
englishmart:Yes, it might have been consciously or it was determined by my actions in a pastlife. 2 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by mrZENographer: 9:07am On Dec 29, 2019 |
God of Chosen will given you a sign. 3 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by englishmart(m): 9:12am On Dec 29, 2019 |
Roycemadeit:Your own belief strong o 24 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Roycemadeit(m): 9:16am On Dec 29, 2019 |
A passage from the Bible does hint on pastlife too Matthew 17:12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by xcabczyxabczzzz: 10:02am On Dec 29, 2019 |
MJBOLT:How would you react if a suppose friend post on Facebook that "if you don't believe in God you would make dumb decisions", knowing fully well that you are an atheist. 4 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Acehart: 10:07am On Dec 29, 2019 |
englishmart: You didn’t answer the part of ‘what your value in the universe is?’ Let me tell you what your value is: on your street, you are a nobody; on your job, you are tool; in your country, you are nameless; in your family, your value isn’t worth much; amongst your friends, when life turns on you, you don’t exist. The only person that makes you seem like something is God; and you want to turn your back on Him? And to Him as well, you are nothing yet He acknowledges you. Jesus Christ was called the Son of God and sometimes, the Son of David. The word “Son” means “(Just) like”. But the title that interests me now is, Son of David, Just like David. David made a promise to Jonathan. He fulfilled that promise in his son, Mephibosheth. Mephibosheth lived in a desert-like place like Saudi Arabia. Due of the promise made, David searched out that boy in a desert-like place where there were no roads or means of communication. Just like David, so is Christ: He has made a promise to save even to the most remote places. The Christian scriptures show that Christ, the Son of God, reaches people through the following means: 1. Conscience. 2. Dreams. 3. Preaching done by men. 4. Preaching done by angels. 5. Nature. 6. Pointers from sundry religions. Etc. I have lived for quite a while and what I have noticed is: many people have dreams of terrifying masquerades chasing them. One thing I have seen to be common to those who have such dreams are these questions: what should I do for these dreams to stop? Who will save me from these masquerades so that I don’t see them again in my dreams? These dreams drive them to search for a savior. The Book of Romans says that God has implanted something in all men that they may search for Him. What He has implanted in them makes them to question their communal way of life, history, environment and religious affiliations, so that a man can know God for Himself. Their search for Him doesn’t have anything to do with being a Christian but has everything to do with meeting God and being at peace (with Him). God starts this search, and He definitely has set the end of that searching process. Remember that those wise men (Magi) weren’t Christians yet they came to worship Christ after they were led by a Star. (Magi are star-gazers just as Muslims gaze at the moon). God can not be limited by a building or community; only the heart can contain Him, yet the heart is not big enough. God called all men to Christ and not religion. He is not unjust to let people be born in anti-Christ neighborhoods without creating a perfect way to save them in Christ. Know God for yourself. Read the scriptures and delight yourself in every word that came out of the mouth of Christ alone. 31 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by englishmart(m): 10:18am On Dec 29, 2019 |
xcabczyxabczzzz:I'm only considering becoming one, not one already. 2 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by MJBOLT: 10:26am On Dec 29, 2019 |
that would be my reaction because religious people make the dumbest decisions xcabczyxabczzzz: 12 Likes
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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Daejoyoung: 10:46am On Dec 29, 2019 |
englishmart: Hi Englishman, nice having you here. Well for starters, you said you are considering becoming an atheist and you listed 4 reasons that had little to do with belief in the existence of God. I wonder why you didn't consider becoming: Agnostic, Deist, African Spiritualist, or even just plain Christian Deist like some enlightened English Philosophers of the 17th and 18th century. Anyway let's look at 3 of your objections critically, shall we? You Wrote...1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6 This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven. Well the elephant in the room is " What does it mean to believe in jesus? " lt depends on which Christian you ask or the particular denomination. John 14v6 says jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. This has nothing to do with any religion, what he means in my understanding is that the way of self sacrificial love(his way) is the way to the father. You Wrote...2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess." Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe) Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions. l don't blame you on this one, because many Christians misunderstand what the bible is or the purpose of the bible. However you don't need the bible to give you do's and don't such as drink or don't drink, you only need to extract the consistent principles across the bible to guide you as you make up laws that suite your society at a particular time and in a particular context. As regards contradictions in the gospels, there are contradictions, because they are four different books. You Wrote...3)Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. l believe God answers prayers, and our faith in prayers helps us tremendously, it also helps us connect to that which we pray for spiritually. God answers prayers but not always in ways we can understand. Also jesus told us what to do before we pray so God can hear us, he said we must abolish every kind of unforgiveness for our brother. 8 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by xcabczyxabczzzz: 10:57am On Dec 29, 2019 |
MJBOLT:I was fvcking dumbfounded. |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by xcabczyxabczzzz: 10:59am On Dec 29, 2019 |
englishmart:Take your time and follow the evidence. Don't believe anything base on bad evidence (faith). 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Daejoyoung: 11:05am On Dec 29, 2019 |
Roycemadeit:The clearest one is in John 9 l think when jesus healed a man born blind. The disciples asked him, who sinned? this man or his parents? Question: How could the man's sins be responsible for his blindness if he was born blind? Jesus didn't care to rebuke the belief of the disciples on this, he just replied saying it wasn't the sin of the man. This does not prove reincarnation in the bible, it only shows that the disciples at that time somehow had come to believe in it. 2 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Martinez39(m): 11:09am On Dec 29, 2019 |
There is a topic of mine titled Sincere Adherents Of Abrahamic Religions, Why Bother? Read it. 5 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Daejoyoung: 11:48am On Dec 29, 2019 |
Snowale:lslam Carries almost thesame stuff in the other two abrahamic religions, l see nothing quite special in islam, it just repeats Jewish and Christian myths with a twist, it would still be almost thesame tea at the end of the day, with different flavours. 21 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Obaiyski(m): 12:52pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
You need to seek the face of God.. Search about living a holy life, try it and you will see that God will visit you 3 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by mumumugu(m): 1:51pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
englishmart: best be an agnostic 2 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 1:59pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Obaiyski:A god that regulates rape and slavery, murders babies and pregnant women and kills himself to appease himself is not one to worship, if he even exists. 14 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Obaiyski(m): 2:19pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
danyero:You think all is well with you.. I tell you within a short while your eyes will clear and you will remember today. 7 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 2:22pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Daejoyoung:those that didn't believe another prophet came after Moses are the Jews, those that didn't believe that another Prophet came after Jesus, are Christains while those that believed in the truth that the last prophet came, are the Muslims, they don't worship man, or cross or mother Mary's statue or Jesus statue. 15 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Bestinstinct(m): 2:26pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Dear OP, you are about to find light please don't allow yourself be deceived. Religion is a big scam. Live your life having just love for humanity and no religious affiliations then you'll see how easy life is. Religion is for the weak. Free yourself. 32 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by LordReed(m): 2:27pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
emrain: Unfortunately if you as an atheist become vocal in countries with high religious populations and penetration you become vilified either as a demon or as one seeking to discourage youth from religious values. In the mind of the religious pushing secularism is tantamount to the destruction of their religion because for many of them their religion must rule society. This is something I hope to pursue this coming year, all the religious braying be damned. We need to push secular and maybe humanist solutions more openly. 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 2:31pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Obaiyski:The problem with religious people like you is that you have been conditioned to fear. Because of that conditioning, you cannot think critically or question your beliefs. What a reasonable person would do after seeing my first post would be to ask themselves, is a god that is so willing to hurt innocent people worthy of worship? But like most lazy religious folks you don't have the mental energy for that, better to let your pastors tell you what to think. Don't bother to quote me, I don't respond to low IQ posters. 31 Likes 9 Shares |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Daejoyoung: 2:47pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Snowale:And those that don't believe that Bahai is a prophet or that Ahmadiya is a prophet are the muslims. Not all Christians worship cross, mary, or man. Besides saying Christian's worship cross is like saying muslims worship a stone because they kiss it. 9 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Novemberaura(m): 2:57pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Nice topic Just reading comments 3 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Obaiyski(m): 3:28pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
danyero:It's not about religious my brother cos I don't count myself like that.. I will advice you to go through the scripture, then after that you can decide.. God is nature and the scripture will open it to you 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Roycemadeit(m): 3:41pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Obaiyski:I laugh oooo |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Roycemadeit(m): 3:42pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Snowale:But they stone the pillars in Mecca every year. 10 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by CAPSLOCKED: 3:57pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
emrain: STOP MAKING THESE ILLITERATE EXCUSES FOR RELIGION AND HOLY BOOKS. THERE'S NOTHING MORAL ABOUT STONNING GAYS, NON-VIRGIN WOMEN, AND THE KILLING OF PEOPLE WHO SHARE A DIFFERENT FAITH FROM THE REST. THERE'S NOTHING MORAL IN DROWNING OR SETTING PEOPLE ABLAZE WHEN WE FEEL WE'VE BEEN OFFENDED. RELIGION WAS NEVER ABOUT SURVIVAL. DID RELIGION PROVIDE ANTIBIOTICS OR INVENT ELECTRICITY? RELIGION WAS ALWAYS ABOUT CONTROLLING HUMANS WITH THE USE OF VIOLENCE, AIMED AT PROVIDING PROFITS FOR THE HIGHLY PLACED AND POWERFUL. NO EXCUSES. 43 Likes 6 Shares |
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