everyone knows christmas is a pagan festival converted to honor Jesus, lets not over flog this issue as we all need holidays to have sober reflection about Christ or Prophet Isah

On point

ifewise:
The Controversy on Christmas, December 25th as Jesus' Birthday: Our Position and Clarification, By MFM

With reference to the varied reactions that have been trailing the message of our General Overseer (Worldwide), Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries (MFM), Dr. Daniel Olukoya, on the celebration of December 25th as Christmas in celebration of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, during the church's weekly Manna Water service on Dec. 25, 2019, we make the following clarifications...

Though the foundation of Christmas is idolatry and God hates idolatry with perfect hatred, we will not throw away the baby and the bath water.
We do not condemn those who celebrate.
Jesus is born in us at MFM every day. His death is our birth certificate.

We will bring out the positive out of the negatives by using all holidays for prayers, conferences seminars, and activities.

We will hold seminars, conventions, camp meetings or special teaching services to pray, examine the scriptures and draw positives from the wrong, negative and idolatry practices of the two events: Easter and Christmas.

We will hold special meetings to re-teach, re-emphasize and reappraise the significance of Jesus' birth, death, cross, and resurrection.

ON DECEMBER AND THE SHEPHERDS
Strange but true! Remember those shepherds who were “keeping watch over their flocks by night”? (Luke 2:. December weather around Bethlehem is often miserably cold, wet and rainy. No shepherd in his right mind would have kept his flocks outside at night at that time of year!
The passage argues against the December 25th birth of Jesus Christ since the weather would not have permitted shepherds to be out in the fields with their flocks then.

Also, Luke 2:1-4 tells us that Jesus was born in Bethlehem because his parents came to that town to register in a Roman census.
The Romans were well known as highly efficient administrators. It would have made no sense to have conducted a census in the dead of winter when temperatures often dropped below freezing and traveling was difficult due to poor road conditions. Taking a census under such conditions would have been pointless.

The Bible nowhere tells us to observe a holiday celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth —but it clearly does tell us to do ‘communion’ in remembrance of him.

he read luke and deliberately skiped the part where the angels celebrated the birth of jesus

One thing I Know as a Christian is that if I merit heaven, Yahweh will not deny me entry for celebrating or not celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ.

Mcuzy:
Make ona go sidon where contain ona . Who follow ona drag say dem nor born Jesus for December ? Over sabi tell us when dem born am na... December 25th is just a day we celebrate CHristmas to remind the world of the birth of a king

Bro.. Have you bothered to ask who fixed this date and why?
Go for knowledge

itsme01:
everyone knows christmas is a pagan festival converted to honor Jesus, lets not over flog this issue as we all need holidays to have sober reflection about Christ or Prophet Isah

Also , for drinking bout and excecive fornication

If they choose not to celebrate, then so be it. They have the right to bliv whatever they want.

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Is MFM a Christian group? I don't think so. I have heard them pray and they only remind one of the Bible story of Elijah versus the prophets of Baal. Shouting 'die by fire' is more idolatry than forgetting that rich men can't make heaven with ease or that tithe is of old testament. Forget them, please.

Abeg o for the sake of poultry farmers,we love it to be 25th o. Merry Christmas

Esseite:


And the world picked Dec 25th... how is that a problem?..

and it says whatever you consider bound on earth is considered bound in heaven

All I have to say vanity upon vanity

Godswillnwaoma:
Jehovah's witnesses have been saying this same thing since decade.....



Christmas did not originate from Christ, It has absolutely nothing to do with Christ Jesus. It is pegan feast.

the birth of jesus has nothing to do with the bible?

Houseofglam7:
I really don't give a rat's ass tho

You don't give a rat's ass enough to comment that you don't give a rat's ass?

That sounds like giving a lot of rat's ass.

Nigerians will never learn, we are one way traffic. The explanations here are enough to convince a reasonable being.

Like your opinion matters. The Catholic Church has been celebrating Christmas for over 1,500 years.

How old is MFM again? I'm sure I'm way older than it.

Awon set Die By Fire!

Christmas is unscriptural and satanic no wonder the scriptures says in Mark 7:6-9 that these people honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me. They teach man-made ideas are commands from God. Christmas, Easter and New Year celebration are all pagan practices

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Neoteny:


You don't give a rat's ass enough to comment that you don't give a rat's ass?

That sounds like giving a lot of rat's ass.

I see you

Okay BYE

Romans 14:6
He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
MFM WITH THEIR OLD TESTAMENT WAYS OF DOING THINGS. PUTTING BURDENS ON PEOPLE OF WHO JESUS DIED

Colossians 2:16-17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Ken4Christ:
Holding camp meeting to kill perceived enemies. Dr Olukoya should please repent of this evil teachings and forms of prayers before it is too late.

How many witches did our Lord Jesus killed. He died for everybody including witches. I have seen some people involved in witchcraft activities saved by the power of God and they are now preaching the gospel.

Not just MFN. This prayer forms have spread like cancer to other denominations including the RCCG and Salvation Ministries. They are not just consistent with the teachings of our Lord Jesus. We should stop killing perceived enemies through prayers.

you should repent your self,not until you have problem and be looking for prayers after your babalawos fails you

Godswillnwaoma:
Jehovah's witnesses have been saying this same thing since decade.....



Christmas did not originate from Christ, It has absolutely nothing to do with Christ Jesus. It is pegan feast.

JWs are actually a confused bunch.

You observe Sabbath on Sunday, a day dedicated to the worship of the Sun/Son of God.

aimuan:
Jesus himself didn't celebrate his birthday,why do you chose to celebrate it?worse still on a wrong date.

and who says christmas is the celebration of jesus' birthday?

englishmart:
If Jesus should come in the evening on Christmas day, only 17,000 Christians will make heaven. (that's if there's heaven o) The kind of immorality accompanied with the Christmas celebration is mind boggling.

So there is no mind boggling immorality in other days?

KKKWHITE:
Christmas is unscriptural and satanic no wonder the scriptures says in Mark 7:6-9 that these people honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me. They teach man-made ideas are commands from God. Christmas, Easter and New Year celebration are all pagan practices

Going to Church to observe the Sabbath on SUNDAY is unscriptural too.

DCmonster:
Bleep ya all. December is my birth month and I will always celebrate Christmas and my birthday in december. Jehovah witnesses are bunch of hypocrites and secret society group we use to know, now here comes MFM too.

also they had 7/7/7, 8/8/8, 9/9/9. where is that in the bible, MFM?

Second

KKKWHITE:
Christmas is unscriptural and satanic no wonder the scriptures says in Mark 7:6-9 that these people honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me. They teach man-made ideas are commands from God. Christmas, Easter and New Year celebration are all pagan practices

Including observance of Sunday

Fraudsters defending another fraud.

Their problem

MiddleDimension:
and who says christmas is the celebration of jesus' birth?

Oh sorry I thought that's what is all about. So please tell me,what's Christmas all about?

itsme01:
everyone knows christmas is a pagan festival converted to honor Jesus, lets not over flog this issue as we all need holidays to have sober reflection about Christ or Prophet Isah

tell me which day is free of pagan festival?

Is Monday not Moonday festival

Is Sunday not Sun day festival

Thur is Ritual day in Yoruba land etc

Every day is known for one pegan festival or the other

Who you celebrate on each day is more important than the history of that day

itsme01:
everyone knows christmas is a pagan festival converted to honor Jesus, lets not over flog this issue as we all need holidays to have sober reflection about Christ or Prophet Isah

christ-mas is not a pagan holiday. i really hope no one is missing the CHRIST in ''christmas''! the mass is a worship service in the catholic church