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itsme01:


dude google christmas and winter solace its an open secret..

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Maximus69:


They will soon realize that all what their Church founders are interested in is how to gather them and collect money from them.
Whatever is en vogue is what this useless Pastors teach them since their followers aren't interested in the TRUTH but what is generally acceptable.
Forbidding
©Alcoholic beverages
©Makeup and Jewelries for women
©Covering of women's hairs
©Ritual Fasting
©Seasonal Festivities
And so on is what their so called Pastors are contemplating on to form rules for them.
Now that Christmas celebration is gradually dying due to the persistence of Jehovah's Witnesses in declaring it PAGAN, many of their Pastors who have been frontiers in the celebration of Birthdays are now trying to dodge from the shame!
Well the TRUTH still remains that they can't prove anything is wrong with Christmas (Celebrating the BIRTH of Jesus) if they are still celebrating their own Birthdays. Whatever is good for the goose is equally good for the ganda.
That is where the FLAWS in whatever they've got to say against Christmas awaits them!

My sister gave birth na so the husband refuse naming ceremony because they are Jehovah witness..

I keep telling people that religion is different from tradition.
The rate at which People are brainwashed these days is alarming. I fear for this generation..
Religion is supposed to unite the world but it's tearing us apart due to false doctrines and bullshit from supposed leaders/mentors.

Neroiam:


Bro.. Have you bothered to ask who fixed this date and why?
Go for knowledge

you are devoid of basic knowledge of this. Go to theological school. U will understand this issue more.
Every event have backup history.

What does Christians really believe in and agree on?

basty:
Nigerians will never learn, we are one way traffic. The explanations here are enough to convince a reasonable being.

You are ill why do you celebrate birthday? Ewu

basty:
Nigerians will never learn, we are one way traffic. The explanations here are enough to convince a reasonable being.

Hmmm would like to come to your church

Mcuzy:
Make ona go sidon where contain ona . Who follow ona drag say dem nor born Jesus for December ? Over sabi tell us when dem born am na... December 25th is just a day we celebrate CHristmas to remind the world of the birth of a king

This is complete bullshit. How I wish we can all go back to the days of ogun and amadioha. Thunder could have done his part to these brain washers

drakeli:


Who fixed the date? The Catholic Church did. The same they did for easter and Sunday service.

Funny how you people condemn the catholic church practices but jump on their fixed date of celebrations in christianity.

Dr Olukoya I have asked God to forgive you because you are misleading your followers. There's division now in your ministry. Sin no more!

MiddleDimension:

it is not an 'open secret'. before christianity came to igbo land, they have always new yam festivals. if the church come to that place, convert the people and then on the day they do their new yam festival, it fixes a day to celebrate the body and blood of jesus, or the transfiguration of the lord, what's wrong with that?

I just wonder. we just like to complicate things.

Esseite:

And the world picked Dec 25th... how is that a problem?..

Who is/are the World?

MiddleDimension:
christians see him as authoritative

There is nothing to connect you (none Israelites) with Jesus! Jesus' main objective is for the lost sheep of the house of Israel! Matthew 10:6,15:24

That's why he(Jesus) personally commissioned another Apostle "Paul" to be the 13th and last Apostle purposely to connect people of other nations to himself! Act 9:15 compared to Galatians 2:7, 1Timothy 2:7

So there is no way you can practice any form of worship that's acceptable before Jesus if you don't bow fully to the teachings of the SPECIAL Apostle chosen by Jesus himself to connect you!

Why do they go to church on sunday? Is Sunday the seven day of the week

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itsme01:
everyone knows christmas is a pagan festival converted to honor Jesus, lets not over flog this issue as we all need holidays to have sober reflection about Christ or Prophet Isah

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This one is telling Dr Olukoya to repent from his evil teachings before it is too late?!

There is absolutely nothing you won't read on Nairaland!
Orisirisi something!

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Godswillnwaoma:
Jehovah's witnesses have been saying this same thing since decade.....



Christmas did not originate from Christ, It has absolutely nothing to do with Christ Jesus. It is pegan feast.

thanks for the info.pls allow us celebrate Christ that day.atleast we know he is the reason for the season.anybody celebrating it a negative way,allow him to his fate.no wonder Shecow is happy pursuing people in the north east with his stupid ideologies,inspite of muslim crying out that his quest are anti Islam.

luqhas100:


Who is/are the World?

Well.. christian majority including other faith recognizing it as a Christian observation.

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itsme01:


dude google christmas and winter solace its an open secret..

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ifewise:
The Controversy on Christmas, December 25th as Jesus' Birthday: Our Position and Clarification, By MFM

With reference to the varied reactions that have been trailing the message of our General Overseer (Worldwide), Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries (MFM), Dr. Daniel Olukoya, on the celebration of December 25th as Christmas in celebration of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, during the church's weekly Manna Water service on Dec. 25, 2019, we make the following clarifications...

Though the foundation of Christmas is idolatry and God hates idolatry with perfect hatred, we will not throw away the baby and the bath water.
We do not condemn those who celebrate.
Jesus is born in us at MFM every day. His death is our birth certificate.

We will bring out the positive out of the negatives by using all holidays for prayers, conferences seminars, and activities.

We will hold seminars, conventions, camp meetings or special teaching services to pray, examine the scriptures and draw positives from the wrong, negative and idolatry practices of the two events: Easter and Christmas.

We will hold special meetings to re-teach, re-emphasize and reappraise the significance of Jesus' birth, death, cross, and resurrection.

ON DECEMBER AND THE SHEPHERDS
Strange but true! Remember those shepherds who were “keeping watch over their flocks by night”? (Luke 2:. December weather around Bethlehem is often miserably cold, wet and rainy. No shepherd in his right mind would have kept his flocks outside at night at that time of year!
The passage argues against the December 25th birth of Jesus Christ since the weather would not have permitted shepherds to be out in the fields with their flocks then.

Also, Luke 2:1-4 tells us that Jesus was born in Bethlehem because his parents came to that town to register in a Roman census.
The Romans were well known as highly efficient administrators. It would have made no sense to have conducted a census in the dead of winter when temperatures often dropped below freezing and traveling was difficult due to poor road conditions. Taking a census under such conditions would have been pointless.

The Bible nowhere tells us to observe a holiday celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth —but it clearly does tell us to do ‘communion’ in remembrance of him.

Mike Bamiloye has said it all

shuttox:
Jehovah witness have been emphasizing on this for years

. If you really want to know Bible very well Jehovah witness is the answer. They go from one house to other to preach the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus.

Great content! but just Christmas is not in the bible so is the word MFM. The truth is there is nothing wrong celebrating Christmas any day provided you know exactly what you are celebrating. If Christians all over the world come together to celebrate Christmas on the Amadioha was defeated in my village, there is no wrong at all. No day was marked in the bible as Jesus birthday, hence we are free to choose a date. Some say Christmas celebration is not in the bible but I also say bible never instructed us not to celebrate Christmas on 25 or anyday. Thanks

ifewise:
The Controversy on Christmas, December 25th as Jesus' Birthday: Our Position and Clarification, By MFM

With reference to the varied reactions that have been trailing the message of our General Overseer (Worldwide), Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries (MFM), Dr. Daniel Olukoya, on the celebration of December 25th as Christmas in celebration of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, during the church's weekly Manna Water service on Dec. 25, 2019, we make the following clarifications...

Though the foundation of Christmas is idolatry and God hates idolatry with perfect hatred, we will not throw away the baby and the bath water.
We do not condemn those who celebrate.
Jesus is born in us at MFM every day. His death is our birth certificate.

We will bring out the positive out of the negatives by using all holidays for prayers, conferences seminars, and activities.

We will hold seminars, conventions, camp meetings or special teaching services to pray, examine the scriptures and draw positives from the wrong, negative and idolatry practices of the two events: Easter and Christmas.

We will hold special meetings to re-teach, re-emphasize and reappraise the significance of Jesus' birth, death, cross, and resurrection.

ON DECEMBER AND THE SHEPHERDS
Strange but true! Remember those shepherds who were “keeping watch over their flocks by night”? (Luke 2:. December weather around Bethlehem is often miserably cold, wet and rainy. No shepherd in his right mind would have kept his flocks outside at night at that time of year!
The passage argues against the December 25th birth of Jesus Christ since the weather would not have permitted shepherds to be out in the fields with their flocks then.

Also, Luke 2:1-4 tells us that Jesus was born in Bethlehem because his parents came to that town to register in a Roman census.
The Romans were well known as highly efficient administrators. It would have made no sense to have conducted a census in the dead of winter when temperatures often dropped below freezing and traveling was difficult due to poor road conditions. Taking a census under such conditions would have been pointless.

The Bible nowhere tells us to observe a holiday celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth —but it clearly does tell us to do ‘communion’ in remembrance of him.

Great content! but just Christmas is not in the bible so is the word MFM. The truth is the there is nothing wrong celebrating Christmas anydau provided you know exactly what you are celebrating. If Christians all over the world come together to celebrate Christmas on the Amadioha was defeated in my village, there is no wrong at all. No day was marked in the bible as Jesus birthday, hence we are free to choose a date. Some say Christmas celebration is not in the bible but I also say bible never instructed us not to celebrate Christmas on 25 or anyday. Thanks

ifewise:
[b]The Controversy on Christmas, December 25th as Jesus' Birthday: Our Position and Clarification, By MFM

With reference to the varied reactions that have been trailing the message of our General Overseer (Worldwide), Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries (MFM), Dr. Daniel Olukoya, on the celebration of December 25th as Christmas in celebration of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, during the church's weekly Manna Water service on Dec. 25, 2019, we make the following clarifications...

Though the foundation of Christmas is idolatry and God hates idolatry with perfect hatred, we will not throw away the baby and the bath water.
We do not condemn those who celebrate.
Jesus is born in us at MFM every day. His death is our birth certificate.

We will bring out the positive out of the negatives by using all holidays for prayers, conferences seminars, and activities.

We will hold seminars, conventions, camp meetings or special teaching services to pray, examine the scriptures and draw positives from the wrong, negative and idolatry practices of the two events: Easter and Christmas.

We will hold special meetings to re-teach, re-emphasize and reappraise the significance of Jesus' birth, death, cross, and resurrection.

ON DECEMBER AND THE SHEPHERDS
Strange but true! Remember those shepherds who were “keeping watch over their flocks by night”? (Luke 2:. December weather around Bethlehem is often miserably cold, wet and rainy. No shepherd in his right mind would have kept his flocks outside at night at that time of year!
The passage argues against the December 25th birth of Jesus Christ since the weather would not have permitted shepherds to be out in the fields with their flocks then.

Also, Luke 2:1-4 tells us that Jesus was born in Bethlehem because his parents came to that town to register in a Roman census.
The Romans were well known as highly efficient administrators. It would have made no sense to have conducted a census in the dead of winter when temperatures often dropped below freezing and traveling was difficult due to poor road conditions. Taking a census under such conditions would have been pointless.

The Bible nowhere tells us to observe a holiday celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth —but it clearly does tell us to do ‘communion’ in remembrance of him.

[/b]Great content! but just Christmas is not in the bible so is the word MFM. The truth is the there is nothing wrong celebrating Christmas anydau provided you know exactly what you are celebrating. If Christians all over the world come together to celebrate Christmas on the Amadioha was defeated in my village, there is no wrong at all. No day was marked in the bible as Jesus birthday, hence we are free to choose a date. Some say Christmas celebration is not in the bible but I also say bible never instructed us not to celebrate Christmas on 25 or anyday. Thanks

ifewise:
The Controversy on Christmas, December 25th as Jesus' Birthday: Our Position and Clarification, By MFM

With reference to the varied reactions that have been trailing the message of our General Overseer (Worldwide), Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries (MFM), Dr. Daniel Olukoya, on the celebration of December 25th as Christmas in celebration of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, during the church's weekly Manna Water service on Dec. 25, 2019, we make the following clarifications...

Though the foundation of Christmas is idolatry and God hates idolatry with perfect hatred, we will not throw away the baby and the bath water.
We do not condemn those who celebrate.
Jesus is born in us at MFM every day. His death is our birth certificate.

We will bring out the positive out of the negatives by using all holidays for prayers, conferences seminars, and activities.

We will hold seminars, conventions, camp meetings or special teaching services to pray, examine the scriptures and draw positives from the wrong, negative and idolatry practices of the two events: Easter and Christmas.

We will hold special meetings to re-teach, re-emphasize and reappraise the significance of Jesus' birth, death, cross, and resurrection.

ON DECEMBER AND THE SHEPHERDS
Strange but true! Remember those shepherds who were “keeping watch over their flocks by night”? (Luke 2:. December weather around Bethlehem is often miserably cold, wet and rainy. No shepherd in his right mind would have kept his flocks outside at night at that time of year!
The passage argues against the December 25th birth of Jesus Christ since the weather would not have permitted shepherds to be out in the fields with their flocks then.

Also, Luke 2:1-4 tells us that Jesus was born in Bethlehem because his parents came to that town to register in a Roman census.
The Romans were well known as highly efficient administrators. It would have made no sense to have conducted a census in the dead of winter when temperatures often dropped below freezing and traveling was difficult due to poor road conditions. Taking a census under such conditions would have been pointless.

The Bible nowhere tells us to observe a holiday celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth —but it clearly does tell us to do ‘communion’ in remembrance of him.

Another nonsense

mu2sa2:
What does Christians really believe in and agree on?

Christianity is really simple but some misguided folks like to complicate everything.
E.g they tell you earings will take you to Hell. then cherry pick some misquoted bible verses to prove it

Moneyboyz:


My sister gave birth na so the husband refuse naming ceremony because they are Jehovah witness..

I keep telling people that religion is different from tradition.
The rate at which People are brainwashed these days is alarming. I fear for this generation..
Religion is supposed to unite the world but it's tearing us apart due to false doctrines and bullshit from supposed leaders/mentors.

Well i'm also one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

And that's why we don't marry outside the faith because we hate campaign after election, your sister shouldn't have hooked up with someone who abhors naming ceremony in the first place!

shuttox:
Jehovah witness have been emphasizing on this for years

I already know all these points from JWs a long time ago.

MiddleDimension:


the birth of jesus has nothing to do with the bible?

This comment just scared me mehn, like seriously

chieyine:


Following this flawed logic,
Did Jesus celebrate his death day?
He wasnt alive to celebrate it.
His disciples did.

Did Jesus Celebrate his birthday?
Only extremely rich people celebrate birthdays
And both heavens and earth celebrated the day he was born.

I dont see the fuss about all these things

After giving thanks, he broke [the loaf] and said: ‘This means my body which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.’”—1 CORINTHIANS 11:24. So he actually celebrated his death before asking his disciples to keep celebrating it.For his birthday he never mentioned it to his disciples. So why do Christian chose to celebrate it? I guess you should search for the origin of Chrismass.

Sirwallace:


Funny how you people condemn the catholic church practices but jump on their fixed date of celebrations in christianity.

So if I'm born on the 25th I shoudn't celebrate my birthday because some nonesensity are being worshipped on that day? re

True but the world have succeeded in converting pegan feast to Christian feast. Did the bible say it is wrong to convert a pegan feast to a Christian feast? Did the bible say we should not celebrate Christmas? Do you want the world to continue to remember the pegan feast? Be guided!!!

Godswillnwaoma:
Jehovah's witnesses have been saying this same thing since decade.....



Christmas did not originate from Christ, It has absolutely nothing to do with Christ Jesus. It is pegan feast.