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Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Ihedinobi3: 3:37pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
midnighter:Thank you for your kind words. As you said, not everyone really cares what the Bible says. In fact, the vast majority of human beings have never cared about what God says. They will only pretend to listen in order to find fault with what they hear. I couldn't have put the bit about making themselves feel smart better myself. You are exactly right that the whole Bible runs to the Cross. That is really what all of Creation is about, after all. The Cross defines the whole Creation and the destiny of men and angels. As you also said, taking random snippets of any part of the Bible is always a very bad idea. The whole Bible is a seamless whole. When anyone is taught what the Bible says as a whole, they soon realize that every part of it is connected to every other part in unique ways to create one whole, harmonious Truth. 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 3:39pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
MJBOLT: So who created u and i? |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by MJBOLT: 3:40pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
nobody knows who created or how life started
PrecisionFx: 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Bluezy13(m): 3:40pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Roycemadeit: Please, to which faith do you belong ?? |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 3:40pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Davash222: Then no need trying to follow God. 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by whitelotus: 3:41pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
midnighter: Why should we atone for other people's sins in the first place? I am responsible for my own life. I dont subscribe to your morality |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by midnighter(f): 3:42pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
wallezee: Lol! So its Gods fault that country is being run by a den of thieves and liars?! What has prayer got to do with writing stupid budgets, borrowing money for no reason and depending solely on oil revenue instead of diversifying? Why is any of that stuff Jesus' fault 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by BamideleOJ: 3:43pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
MJBOLT: The reality I want y'all to wake up to is the fact that the church, mosque and several worship centres are the real scam. God exists and he does things for people. However, our reliance on human ability and calculation makes it seem God is wicked. Just focus on meditating on the word of God as well praying to him with faith. See church ehn, just negodu. 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by midnighter(f): 3:43pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
whitelotus: So you dont believe wrongdoing should be punished? |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by midnighter(f): 3:45pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3: Precisely. Anyway, never mind! Anybody who wants to read should read; youve already spelled out all they need to know! |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by whitelotus: 3:49pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
midnighter: Why not? Wrong doing should be punished appropriately |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by DAVE5(m): 3:50pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Acehart: Are you suffering? How come our big church G.Os are flexing life to the core, I mean hard balling, wearing all white to church, buying private jets, buying the rolls royces, fast super cars The life of suffering only fits the church followers but not the G.Os |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by sukhothai: 3:52pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
digitalxpat:so those that died from malaria were worshipping satan? Someday some Christians would use your predicaments as a testimony in Church too.. The circle continues |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by ptkoncept(m): 3:52pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
[color=#990000][/color] englishmart:you are dying gradually and you dont know....gbabe |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 3:54pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
MJBOLT:sperm and eggs period,your dad and mum had sex...that's the answer 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Obi1kenobi(m): 3:54pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
midnighter: That's a strange way to interpret the guy's comment. He's saying if there existed any divine, omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent power who cares about his creation and intercedes to come to the aid of His people who lift their voices unto Him in supplication, then there is no rationale for the state of Nigeria - a very, very religious country where people pray about everything. He's not saying it's "God's fault" or "Jesus' fault". If you're saying that the state of Nigeria lies entirely in our incompetence, then you're saying all the solutions to our problems lie with us and not God. Which I'd say is an accurate observation. Why then need to pray at all if all you have to do is engage your cognitive ability and industry to solve your problems? What is the purpose of prayer and religious devotion? 3 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Dicktionary: 3:57pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Hello Bro. Englishmart. I can tell you with 100% confidence, that 99% of Religious believer across the world both living and the dead, have taught about the existence of God as True/False before. I don't go to Church, I was brought up in a Christian home and I have Many extended family who are Muslims, Buhhdist, Traditionalist, Atheist , but I will like to tell you something, I believe in God but not Religion!!!!! A friend of mine who work at NASA told me point blank that he believes they is a God some where in Space, this dude is a perpetual Atheist. I WILL LEAVE THE STORY OF ALL WHAT HE TOLD ME FOR ANOTHER DAY...... To be Honest RELIGION IS A SCAM!!! I swear an Arabic man won't accept Islam if it was a Hausa man Idea and an European man won't accept Christianity if it was an Igbo man Idea!!! Smh godfearingD!ck 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by IamPlato(m): 3:57pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
englishmart:there Were Actually Three Types Of Tithing, the Church Today Only Practises The One That Favours The so Called Pastors 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 4:00pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3:The last discovered skeleton of early man was carbon dated 70,000 years old and the skeleton was a woman's of African heritage. Even the Catholic church has hinted at their support of the theories and evidences that humans have existed for more than 6,000 years. I think the church knows this but stating otherwise will shake the foundations of many faithfuls. That's the problem. There are too many other beliefs out there to pick one and side with it without strong evidence. Its like a judge who rules in favor of a defendant that provided faith as evidence. It doesn't make any sense. It's not like you have been around the world to test every faith before arriving at the conclusion that the bible holds the absolute truth, it is more like "I don't know the real truth but let me believe this one because it was passed down to me or I grew up in a geographical area where all my peers are of the faith |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 4:01pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Dicktionary:What does your friend do at NASA? |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 4:02pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
midnighter: U have time oooo....why do I waste so much energy on people who look around and say nothing created this universe...... |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by hollowpot15684(m): 4:03pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
englishmart: Dear Englishmart,, Sorry you are disappointed and unhappy because you have not really seen Gods hand in relative to how you expected to see it, God is not unjust and is not moved by any man's emotions and logic. He is a God of principle and one who considers his words first before his name. Concerning your first reason please read Mathew 24:14 (And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come) to have a brief understanding of this. On 2nd reason: my advice is to not give yourself to worldly doctrines. Alcohols of today is simply poisonous to the body, I do not think you need any Bible to decide if alcohol is good for you or not, your body and soul will be the judge. On 3rd reason: God is not a slave you can summon to heal malaria or ulcer for you, there are drugs that do that, those drugs were discovered years ago through some thorough research and divine knowledge. I want you to know that God does not interfere in the affair of men, well maybe there are few exceptions, but that is what it is 'an exception'. God has put the affairs of men in the hands of men and he can't even interfere if he does not find any suitable for man to use. So, stop expecting Him to do what he does not promise you. And again, it is against the law of nature for you to get healed by ways mysterious to your body, most of the time you will need to swallow nutrients or drugs in order to heal up. On the 4th reason: God built the earth, he placed man on it and gave man the authority to govern the earth. However, man disobeyed and gave some of his authority to Satan and now the devil has almost the same authority as man on earth, and this is why you see havoc been orchestrated by men co-helped by the devil. Even while Jesus Christ was among us, there were killings and there were suffering simply because there is some amount of authority withing the jurisdiction of Satan to have control over some certain things(we invited him anyways ). God is not a magician that will come down and stop war, however he gave his words that whoever believe in his son Jesus Christ will have eternal life, he also gave his word that whoever believe will walk through dangerous places and never get hurt. - Then about secular people who live extravagantly, I want you to understand that a lot of believers also live extravagant life not because God gave money to them but because they obey the principles guiding money and wealth creation ( i will recommend you go get yourself a book by Pastor Sunday Adelaja title Money don't make you rich) to discover timely money principles that will turn your life around. Dear Englishmart, i guess you are trying really hard to seek Gods face but let disappointed because you didn't see his face directly, i want you to know that He is there with you and he never leave you even when you stop seeking him (He is a gracious Lord) all he need from you is a continuous effort to seek him, like the one you are currently making. And i want you to also know that you thinking of becoming an atheist makes him to even love you more, do not listen to the distracting noise of this world, do not turn your back on your creator, all he want to see is your face and striving heart. May God continue to Strengthen, Love you. 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by abundanceseun: 4:04pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
You try. Temmywalex: |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by midnighter(f): 4:09pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi: Lol oh gosh! Excuse me, did he mention the fact that we are being run by a bunch of numbskulls and imperialist puppets before he started wailing about churches and prayers? He clearly said "If theres any God anywhere, Nigeria would have been a better country by now" which is apportioning the blame to God without mentioning anything related to our own responsibilities apart from prayer. na so we go dey sidon one side dey pray while our country goes even further into the abyss? Which better country? When people cant even stand in a straight line when waiting for an ATM machine mtchew dont make me laugh! By the way what is religious about Nigeria? In the sense of active faith, organisation and infrastructure? God is a god of order and not open gutters, unkempt policemen and gluttonous politicians so I dont see where He is supposed to come into it when we are busy being stupid and incompetent. He is even being kind to us right now; do you know the type of serious disasters we are supposed to have experienced by now if not for God? Hm! This thread is becoming very funny o! |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by k4kenny(f): 4:11pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
midnighter: Why do sins need to be atoned for. Why does god need an innocent human sacrificed to atone for the guilty? Can't he just simply forgive? If forgiveness has to be conditional, then it's not forgiveness anymore, it's basically some kind of revenge. Parts of the Bible may be divine. But it has been written and rewritten over the centuries by men to fulfill their theological desires. The result of this is a book filled with errors and inconsistencies. How could God have created light on the first day, the sun and moon on the fourth? If these monumental errors, which science has come to disprove, are wrong, why then should we believe other parts of the same book? Jesus(peace be upon him) never came to preach Christianity. He came to preach the Oneness of his Lord. That's the same Lord we worship. 2 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by horllybabe(f): 4:13pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Hey poster, it’s too early for you to give up on God, don’t give up on him easily. God exist( I know deep down within you know that too) and he answers prayers too, this I’m very sure of. Why not try and sincerely seek his face this time around and see if he won’t answer! Don’t just conclude like that. A slight delay doesn’t mean he is not interested in your plight.He loves you and he is waiting for you to call unto him, so don’t give up on God he exists and he will never give up on you too 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by imhere: 4:16pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Jesus the way the truth and the light John 1:1 |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 4:17pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
God exists. That is an irrefutable fact. The simple fact that we exist is the greatest proof of His existence. God never promised us a problem-free life. We have man's fall in Eden to thank for that. As a Christian believer I've had my share of problems. But the fact remains that God always comes through for me one way or the other. On three different occasions I had found myself in a life or death situation... where it was humanly impossible for survival...yet...somehow and in some inexplicable way...I survived. There is no single contradiction in the Bible. The Bible isn't a textbook. It wasn't written for our understanding. It was written for the 'Eyes of Our Understand.' (Ephesians 1:15). So long as you read God's word with Head Knowledge... you will always have problems with clarity. God's word becomes clear only by Revelation Knowledge... One thing about the Bible is that it is highly contextualized. That's why you shouldn't just Read... rather Study... the Bible...to understand the Who, What, Why, Where, When. And that's why you need the help of the Holy Spirit. He is the Spirit it Truth who is ever ready to guide us in all things. Without the help of the Holy Spirit... the Bible will remain vague to you. (I Corinthians 2:14). Next time, before you read the Bible, sincerely ask the Holy Spirit to open the eyes of your understanding. Trust me...you'll be amazed at the hidden nuggets in God's word. When it come to problems... I've learned that God usually has two approaches: *He prevents the problems *He allows the problems but promises to deliver us out of that fire or water. God will never allow His own experience more than they can handle. That is a fact. So, my dear believer, no matter how backbreaking your current problem may seem...you have all the needed Grace to stand and overcome it...I know it sounds easier said than done...but that is the gospel truth. God exists. The Bible is true. And our world is problem-filled. But many are the afflictions of the righteous...but God has promised to deliver us from ALL of them. And, in a worst case scenario... where a problem leads to the death of a righteous person...then it's home to Heaven. Last year, my dear mother, whom I loved so much, became sick. We did all a could... but she eventually died. She was in her early 60's. Was I heartbroken? You bet. This was a woman who gave her life in service to God. Generous, kind, patient, prayerful...a virtuous woman. She never really got enjoy the fruits of her labour. But...she's now in a much better place. And that is all the consolation I need. I'll end with this quote: 'Seeing isn't Believing. Believing is seeing.' - Andrew Wommack. 2 Likes |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by midnighter(f): 4:22pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
1StopRudeness: Lol the thing is sounding extremely funny o, Jesus just came down and told somebody to drive bullion van through the streets of Lagos lmao |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 4:23pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
janettee: So you too believe Hollywood? You must be a teenager. I remember as teenagers then, we'd watch Superman and believe he was real. |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by bluefilm: 4:25pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Nonsense. You need to be convinced to believe in God abi? The person convincing you, has he or she seen God themselves? Nonsense people everywhere. Nonsense. 1 Like |
Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Acehart: 4:31pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
DAVE5: I suffered. I suffer daily. But I earn about three million naira a year with incentives and I have a nice car and more. For many years I had nothing, zero. (At one point I taught in a nursery and primary school). But those things I have now don’t complete me. I don’t count another man’s money and I’ll advise you to do the same because the issue of looking at images is the strategy of Satan to take your gaze away from godliness and contentment. When you read the later verses of Romans 8, you would see that God never promised us an easy life of comfort, not even safety from our enemies or a hiding place from persecution. God has promised that whatever we face in life, we will overcome them by his meeting every need of ours. If we suffer, God gives us the ability to rejoice even when our needs takes time to come to fruition. I am sure those GOs suffered to. You are only seeing their “today”. Have you seen their yesterdays? Whatever they are doing now which is not pleasing to you, is not for you to jump into conclusion; it is God that judges every man. Happy Holidays |
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