months:


I understand totally.

One question, do u identify as Anioma?

If u do, wat are the Anioma? Bini?

Why start with Anioma? Let us go to the very beginning. What is 'Igbo'?

BeachLife:
I' m not in anyway endorsing this ,but to fight a successful war against Nigeria and win,you need at least $10 Billion dollars . Pay 10,000 mercenaries ,plus at least 100,000 soldiers.
A single drone plus the entire program cost around $100 million dollars. You need at least 20 drones , that's $2 billion dollars. And i'm not sure it's possible to purchase that . If you have that kind of money ,the best method is simply develop your own weapons .
What are the chances of developing weapons or importing them ,assembling 100,000 soldiers and mercenaries without the government finding out? But if successful, then you take them by surprise and win.

Biafra is gone for good!

Ishilove:

Why start with Anioma? Let us go to the very beginning. What is 'Igbo'?

Igbo is a language spoken by a group of people with shared ancestry and cultural origin.

I started with Anioma becos u(Ukwuani) identify as Anioma.

months:

Y u stalking this thread?

Was any of your parents an Igbo or u married Igbo?

come and carry one of your run aways disturbing us here.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

Go on. Tell me another joke.

Ishilove:

Why start with Anioma? Let us go to the very beginning. What is 'Igbo'?

U have to know that Ndiigbo actually know wat u mean wen u start claiming Ukwuani rather than Igbo.

We had that same debate a couple of pages back with Omanbala, claiming Omanbala rather than Igbo.

All of us have our own distinct identity and grouping aside Igbo.

Some will say they are Idemili, Ikwere others orlu, but alot of us have learnt to set it aside and just accept Igbo.

Igbo is an Umbrella name for our language grouping.


See the arguement below, so we do undertsand where u people are coming from becos sometimes, we find ourselves having that exact problem, even the best of us.

OMANBALA1:
Cc. Pazienza, you and I have different goal. I don't mince words and I know the Igbo agenda you are pushing will never come to fruition. I am a thoroughbred realist and I will stick to what I know will work for my dear fatherland/Omanbala.

This you see how you have stooped so low and condemned the Omanbala name just because it threatens your ideology but you conveniently accepted the fake anglicized version....smh. Very disgraceful. You are ready to sell your fatherland for ten kobo just to achieve your aim....May I also point out I never see you contribute jack in the Anambra thread yet you are from Ogidi...lmao.

Your origin is questionable!

pazienza:


I don't contrbute much in state threads.

I see them all as obstacles to Igbo progress.
But I'm sure I have contributed to Anambra thread some time ago. And I visit the thread everyday.
I doubt you have more Anambra blood flowing in your veins than me. I spent all my childhood at Ogidi and had spent the last 3yrs at Ogidi and environment as a place of residence and work.

You are not more Anambra than Ojukwu or Achebe, yet they were both Pan Igboists. Achebe spent years in Owerri studying the Igbo culture around that part of Igboland and he wrote about it in his last book before he died.

I think your Igbo experience is very limited. You probably hardly lived in Anambra, I wager you grew up outside Igboland. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a non Igbo admixture in you, someone once said you were from Plateau state here, I wouldn't be surprised if you are entirely an non Igbo impostor here. There are many Northerners like yourselves who were born in Igboland and can speak fluent Igbo. We have one of them currently living in our family house in Ogidi as a tenant. Recently BBC Igbo ran a program about Northerners born and raised in Igboland who are very fluent in Igbo language.

If you were born, raised into adulthood in Igboland, and had the opportunity to transverse the four corners of Igboland, interacting with all Igbo clans like Achebe,Zik and Ojukwu did, you will have far greater vision and not be as shortsighted as you currently are. You would know that all Igbo clans are interlinked and share one fate.
I was born in Enugu, but I schooled in Anambra, Ebonyi, Imo and Abia at different times in my life. I lived with and interacted with the people.
I had used my meagre resources to visit interiors of Igbo speaking groups like Etche, Ikwerre, Ngbo, Izzi, etc, with aim of trying to understand the idiosyncrasies of the villagers out there.

The first hand experience I have interacting with all Igbo clans, you have not 1/100th of it.
Therefore you shouldn't expect our stance on Pan Igbo issues to be alike.

By the way, I didn't condemn the Omanbala name I will never condemn any part of Igboland, I'm too Pan Igbo for such. I simply stated the obvious fact that Omanbala as a cultural unit encompasses Anambra East, Anambra west, Oyi and parts of Dunukofia LGAs.
Omanbala is an Igbo cultural zone with a visible Igala imprint.
This is a historical fact.

The fact that Omanbala was corrupted to Anambra and used to name a part of Igboland by Nigerian government, should not give divisionists the opportunity to misrepresent fact and divide Igboland further.

We should be working towards blurring the lines of divisions the enemy imposed on us after our defeat at the war, finding means to breakdown the walls of divisions called states, unite ourselves and achieve our potential. Germany was divided into East and West Germany after they lost a war, but instead of dividing themselves further, Germans found a way to breakdown the division enemies brought in their midst. But people like you will have us strengthen the walls (dysfunctional states) Nigerians used to divide us. You forget that part of the reason we went to war was because we refused the division of the Eastern region by Gowon into states, because we knew that we were stronger as a unit.

There are no more crusaders for Igbo unity in Igboland than people with Origins to places within the geographical expression called Anambra today.
No man works for Igbo unity more than Ndiigbo from that part of Igboland. Even on this forum. AnambraIst son is a shinning light in that regard. Always presenting good news from all parts of Igboland in form of news articles and pics. Outside Igboland, many presidents of Igbo Union are from Anambra. My Grandfather was the president general of Igbo Union in Bauchi at some point in his life time. Even on this forum, no one will forget the contributions of Onlytruth, the Eze Ndiigbo in Nairaland those days. He was a pan Igboist who united us all, he defended all parts of Igboland, galvanized and united all Igbos on this forum.
The Anambra man is a pan Igboist. He is wise to know that Igbo nine bu ofu. You on the other hand, you are an anomaly, you need to visit a mirror and take a real look at yourself.

naptu2:


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

Go on. Tell me another joke.

mynd44 is it possible to ban him?

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Ishilove:

Why start with Anioma? Let us go to the very beginning. What is 'Igbo'?

U know wat else is funny, I think it was the same Omanbala that was fighting u(Ukwuani and Ikwere) for denying Igbo with a different moniker.

months:


Igbo is a language spoken by a group of people with shared ancestry and cultural origin.

I started with Anioma becos u(Ukwuani) identify as Anioma.

Okay. How would you describe the Igbo speaking areas in the pre-colonial era?

months:



mynd44 is it possible to ban him?

For breaking what rule?

Ishilove:

For breaking what rule?

He keeps banning my account and preventing our conversation and other things, like disrupting the thread with multiple moniker.

Ishilove:

Okay. How would you describe the Igbo speaking areas in the pre-colonial era?

Prior to colonialism, we were segmental, that is Aniocha, Ukwuani, Ika, Ikwere, Idemili, Orlu, Abiriba, Ohafia, Omanbala etc.

Post-colonial we became Igbo.

See the bolded below.

pazienza:


I had told you before that the monolithic Anambra you are trying too hard to create does not exist in reality.
And we have had discussion about this your "Omanbala" thing. Omanbala to my understanding is Anambra East and West and Oyi. That's Omanbala. I don't understand how you stretched Omanbala which is just those three LGAs, and maybe parts of Dunukofia and Ayamelum, to include Idemili, Aniocha, etc.

The Orumba and Ihiala (notice it's Ihiala and not Ifiani) all speak like their brothers in IMO state, they use "Were" (Welu) "Chere"(Chelu) , "Ha"(fa) "Uhu"(Uru), etc, instead of those in the brackets.
They use "Oha" too, rather than "Ora".

Anambra like all states is an artificial Nigerian creation, it simply doesn't exist in cultural Igboland.
You are no different from those Igbos in Rivers and Delta states who had allowed artificially created Nigerian entities post 1970 to become their new identity. You are only still claiming Igbo because your town is in South East, I bet people like would deny Igbo and claim your Omambala is now a new distinct ethnic group of its own if Anambra were not in SE.

We can't continue like this.

OMANBALA1:


This uniformity you are campaigning for is ruining our individual culture. Open your eyes and stop trying to force unity among people who aren't a unit. Igbo land is unique and for us to move forward we must carefully define ourselves and therein find elements we can use to cooperate. Igbo land can never be united under one ideology. To force this unity is to destroy people's cultures. For instance, Igbo Izugbe is a cancer eating deep into the ancient Omanbala culture... I see people from many Anambra towns writing "were" and "chere" instead of welu and chelu the typical Anambra person uses. Even a titled man like Victor Umeh wrote Ohamadike instead of their Aguluuzigbo variance ,Oramalu Dike. We must resist this corruption. I also urge Ndi Abia and Imo to stop using names like Chideraa, Ifeanyi, Oluchi etc...its eroding their culture.

tck2000:
Biafra is gone for good!

Biafra is ‘gone for good’ yet you’re proscribing, murdering and having sleepless nights over their matter? Keep on lying to yourself!

XANDERBOY85:


Biafra is ‘gone for good’ yet you’re proscribing, murdering and having sleepless nights over their matter? Keep on lying to yourself!

I think, it is more of a mental problem for them, not even obsession.

monthx:
He keeps banning my account and preventing our conversation and other things, like disrupting the thread with multiple moniker.


Prior to colonialism, we were segmental, that is Ukwuani, Ikwere, Idemili, Orlu, Abiriba, Ohafia etc.

Post-colonial we became Igbo.

See the bolded below.

I’d like to refer all those Igbo deniers from present day Delta and Rivers states to take a cursory look at precolonial maps of IGBOLAND as the colonialists understood it to be! Just google it and get back to me on your findings!

months:



mynd44 is it possible to ban him?

Oga please enough of that Igbo this and Igbo that.

Go to culture thread and continue this discussion pls

Ishilove:

Okay. How would you describe the Igbo speaking areas in the pre-colonial era?

You are very popular/powerful. This thread is meant to be about Igbo political and economic development, but some people have turned it into the Ishilove thread.

naptu2:


You are very popular/powerful. This thread is meant to be about Igbo political and economic development, but some people have turned it into the Ishilove thread.

Igbo must be very powerful that you now spend so much time reading their submission and affairs.

You're welcome.

In years to come when the matters of your ethnicity comes up for discussion try and invite us if that day will ever come.

Ndibunna:



Igbo must be very powerful that you now spend so much time reading their submission and affairs.

You're welcome.

In years to come when the matters of your ethnicity comes up for discussion try and invite us if that day will ever come.

monthx:


We are talking to our people. Where are yours?

Here. Ishilove is my people (that's why I'm here and going nowhere).

naptu2:




Here. Ishilove is my people (that's why I'm here and going nowhere).

Read and stay till the topic fades away.

Igbo amaka.

Ndibunna:


Read and stay till the topic fades away.

Igbo amaka.

Thank you. You are very kind.

naptu2:


Thank you. You are very kind.

I am not kind to you but only kind to the person you come to become here and over the years

XANDERBOY85:


Biafra is ‘gone for good’ yet you’re proscribing, murdering and having sleepless nights over their matter? Keep on lying to yourself!

Bro i'm an Urhobo guy and i love igbos.You guys are really talented and i don't want you guys to leave Nigeria,that's why i hate biafra.You guys are brilliant but politically dull.If you guys hold your senators,LG chairman,governors responsible for your development and deal with them severely,then we would have a Dubai/Japan in the south-east.Yet you guys are pointing at the Yoruba and the clueless president who have no influence in your region for your un-development crying marginalization.That's goes for all states.If we hold and manhandle our LG Chairman,Governors,Senators,we won't disturb the clueless president and cry un-development!

Do you care to prove your claim ?
Also, I will have you notice that Obaseki is of Anioma descent and that the obi of Onitsha is also Anioma.
The Design of Agbor as well
None of them has ever claimed what you just claimed.
Also I will have you notice that the Midwest was voted into existence by each zones overwhelmingly and that included the Anioma who chose to be in a region with themselves and their other Edo brothers.
So please, prove your claims or else everybody will know you are mentally ill for making such horrific and disturbiy claims with nothing to substantiate them.

Trying to smear the Oba of Benin will not get you Biafra and it will not turn Anioma into Igbo. They remain Edo and that is that.

You the bastvard making threats and posting disgusting smears, you don't even have the courage to use your real name and adress. You want to play Jackie chan under the cover of the internet.

What sort of irresponsible post is this ? You no knowledge of what you are are delving into. You are not qualified nor knowledgeable to discuss Anioma and Igbo subjects.

naptu2:


You are very popular/powerful. This thread is meant to be about Igbo political and economic development, but some people have turned it into the Ishilove thread.

I see , you are gloating for her...very miserable element. What weakling !

tck2000:
Bro i'm an Urhobo guy and i love igbos.You guys are really talented and i don't want you guys to leave Nigeria,that's why i hate biafra.You guys are brilliant but politically dull.If you guys hold your senators,LG chairman,governors responsible for your development and deal with them severely,then we would have a Dubai/Japan in the south-east.Yet you guys are pointing at the Yoruba and the clueless president who have no influence in your region for your un-development crying marginalization.That's goes for all states.If we hold and manhandle our LG Chairman,Governors,Senators,we won't disturb the clueless president and cry un-development!

Did you really typed this?

Ndibunna:

Did you really typed this?

what's wrong?

Ishilove:

Why start with Anioma? Let us go to the very beginning. What is 'Igbo'?

Igbo is an encompassing identity used to identify all the communities that use "bia" and spread across south east and the midwest. The single and most strongest factor that can be used to define a people is their ancestral language, especially when you cant prove there was a lost language. Henceforth , Ukwuani can only be grouped as Igbo or Igboid regardless of how your emotion directs you...reality is reality and facts are facts. Cc. Ishilove

Secondly, that your line of excuse about how every body in your village despise Igbo makes no sense because what you are saying in reality is that you believe whatever people tell you , in spite of contrary views. Ask questions , madam. You are NOT a ffool ! Ask your father , mother and village people wetin Igbo people do them !!! Ask questions because you cant tell me jack about Kwale. I be correct Lagos boy and I have dated Kwale girl and , yes , 99% of Kwale deny Igbo but none can give you a sensible reason. But , they run around chasing Igbo women...Why are they infatuated by Igbo women if they so much despise us?

When my father wanted to change our surname from my great grandfather to his father because of family land tussle I refused and said NO ! Your personality here paints you as no nonsense girl but you cant ask simple questions like why does Kwale kept speaking Igbo and naming their children Igbo names like Ndidi , Ifeanyi , Isioma , Chiemeka etc. I hated the colonial corruption of my culture so much that I changed my baptismal name and took my grandfather's name. Kwale should do same stop using onu fa ji agu ngu ajah kwue na uyom bu ego.