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Re: . by AmuDimpka: 10:27am On Jan 07, 2020 |
BeachLife:what if they don't want to be included! Would you force them ? Let's be reasonable 1 Like |
Re: . by B2mario(m): 12:16pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Afam4eva:Afam biko, owutudi iwe because I am very angry right now. Restore my post and tell me where I went wrong that made you to block me and remove my post. Tell me which of the rule that I flawed? You people should not be running nairaland on the basis of sentiment. |
Re: . by jamesversion: 12:56pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
BeachLife: Include everyone else but forget Ikwerre. It beats all logical explanation to want someone who doesn't want you. Ikwerres are already way too independent and have evolved a separate identity to want to join Igboland. They are ethnic Igbo's okay, buy one that has a penchant to cause disunity and disaffection. 1 Like |
Re: . by naptu2: 4:41pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Ariaria Power Plant. This place used to be a waste dump at Ariaria Market, but the Rural Electrification Agency has turned it into a power plant. It provides 24 hours power to the market, which previously had only an average of 4 hours of electricity a day. It is a 9.5 MW plant that uses compressed natural gas to generate electricity. The project is being rolled out in phases. 4,000 shops were hooked on to the project in phase 1 and 8,000 shops in phase 2. It's part of the government's "Energising Economies" policy. 2 Likes
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Re: . by horsepower101: 6:22pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
rdokoye: This is why Ndigbo should heed the call to invest back home. 2 Likes |
Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 7:17pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
There can be a political forum without the mandatory requirement of a single umbrella ethnic nationality. Each Igbo group is technically an ethnic nationality of its own, if we are to be honest. Some just so happen to be only as large as a single town, others span over a plethora of towns. It doesn't change their ethnic sentiments. If Igbo people can simply acknowledge this and move forward, it can actually get things done, without wasting time over "Igbo bu Igbo" and "Igbo Bu Otu" before making any real initiatives. 1 Like |
Re: . by Ebubeagu1: 7:42pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
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Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 10:09pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
mr11: Please, if your igboness is for politics, we don't want to do anything with you people. Thanks for this confession. You people may sell us out one day. We can't risk this a second time. Not even Biafra should be fought with you guys along. You will sabotage for politics. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 10:14pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
mr11: Igbo people in SE as a whole are denied everything on the national level for being Igbo and we didn't deny the group and split into our villages . you people deny at every instance , whether you are looking for job or not. You do this when ordinary Igbos ask you sef. Is Ngozi iweala , a proud Igbo, jobless today ? Isn't she from Delta too ? Forget that thing 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by letusbepieces: 10:21pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
pazienza: ChinenyeN: There is a fundamental issue with Ukwuani and Ikwere. They errorneously believe they are from Benin. Wat is erroneous about that you may ask? Is dat Benin is a relatively recent creation that came into existence in the 12th Century. How did it come into existence you may ask? It came into existence wen a Yoruba Prince from Ile ife (oranmiyan), invaded the ancient Idu Kingdom from which the Ukwuani/Anioma, Onitsha, Ndokwa, Ikwere, Ika and all Igbos were under. The War between Idu and Oba forced them out of the Idu Kingdom and eastward. This similarly applies to Urhobo, Isoko, Ijaw and all the groups that were coexisting in Idu. Idu was multi-ethnic kingdom The people we call Benin today were named by the Yoruba Prince that invaded Idu after the word he stated which was Ile ibinu(The land is Angry) The descendant of this Yoruba Prince are the Oba of Benin you see today. The actual tribe they met wen they came from Ile Ife are called the Igbodomigodo people and changed their name to Bini. Igodomigodo took their name from the first King of Idu that was called Igbodo. The second king was called Eri and they were believed to be Igbo. Do u see where Ishilove Ukwuani Bini claim originate? It points to their place of origin but not tribe of origin. Their tribe is Igbo. This is a list of the independent Ogisos (Kings) of Igodomigodo, which was to become the Benin Empire, from 355 BC to 1092 AD.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_Ogiso 2 Likes |
Re: . by Nobody: 10:24pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
naptu2:before this year would be gone, shell would complete laying of gas pipelines to the plant |
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 10:25pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
UdechiHD: Ndigbo must do this and that for you...... Oga, you are not our responsibilities. If you don't want to be Igbo , leave it. We don't have to do anything for you. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by ChimaAdeoye: 10:45pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
AmuDimpka: My brother, in this day and time that countries like United States and Germany have showed that the best format for economic grouwth is to have multiple cities and towns which are their own economic units. That boy is still suggesting the 1800 doctrine of Europe where there is only one megacity in a country (The capital) and the rest of the country is bushy farmland. You can already know any suggestion coming from folks like that is just mere beer parlour jargon that does not merit intelligent response or questions. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: . by letusbepieces: 10:47pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
ChimaAdeoye: That person is the same yoruba man on this thread with multiple moniker and ethnicity. I was going to tell you your Urhobo friend is the same yoruba man closing thread but decided to just watch. We should be wary on this thread. The bolded is very correct. |
Re: . by AmuDimpka: 11:02pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
ChimaAdeoye: You are right...dude is a clown 1 Like |
Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 11:07pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
letusbepieces, at the end of the day, whether or not they claim an oral tradition connected to Benin is still not anyone's concern, and there is no real reason why discarding those claims (false, conflated, or otherwise) needs to be a requirement for building a political or economic forum. 1 Like |
Re: . by AmuDimpka: 11:08pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
mr11: Irrespective of that ...anioma is still backward with funny backward village So has Igbo denial helped you ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: . by letusbepieces: 11:25pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: The truth is they got their oral history mixed up and need to back it up with empirical evidence. The history they are talking about is a well documented history, with evidence in Ile Ife and modern day Benin. They are from Idu Kingdom not Benin and they are Igbo. There first king is Igodo and Ironical we still celebrate Igodo festival in Enugu and have Eze Eri which was their second King, though spelt Ere. In that list the Kingship was rotated between the various clans. The arrival of the Oba of Benin displaced all of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-q_F2zch8M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-pI7jliNOQ 2 Likes |
Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 12:02am On Jan 08, 2020 |
letusbepieces, I'm sorry, but people like you do not make sense sometimes. Backed up with empirical evidence? What empirical evidence? This is all about oral traditions. Well-documented history? How is that possible when documentation didn't even start for most places until the middle of the 20th century? And how do you so casually use your hand to write things like "Ere" was an "Eze Nri"? The same "Ere" that can be inferred to have lived way back in the 400s CE? My guy, you want to show that they have their oral traditions mixed up? Cool. I get it, but you're going to have to do better than this, otherwise, all you're spouting here is pseudo-history. Yet, you want these different peoples to come and present their counters to you? How will you even know if a counter is sensible or plausible, when you have clearly not even done proper research yourself? 1 Like |
Re: . by Nobody: 12:43am On Jan 08, 2020 |
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Re: . by pazienza(m): 12:53am On Jan 08, 2020 |
ChinenyeN. You have since I knew you on this forum been anti Igbo unity. You are anti Igbo Izugbe, because you accuse Ndi Anambra of hijacking it, and you think it's Anambra language. You refuse to write in proper Igbo, always fusing your Igbo (Ngwa) words with unnecessary "nh" etc "Ohna" for "Oha", making your write up hard for other Igbos to read. You believe Ngwa should be an independent ethnic nationality. This you have always defended which led to myself having several clashes with you in the past under my current and different monikers. This thread is meant for Igbo unity, since you don't believe in Igbo unity, one would think that you would stay away from this thread with your divisive comments, but no! You had to drag yourself into here, all for what? What exactly is your aim of coming to this thread? To tell us it's okay for Ikwerre to spit on Igbo tag while we are obligated to hug them? Why can't you go and open an Ngwa unity thread and knock yourself out there, see if any of us would come there. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: . by ChinenyeN(m): 1:16am On Jan 08, 2020 |
Pazienza, I am actually pro-forum. 1 Like |
Re: . by letusbepieces: 1:33am On Jan 08, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: @ bolded, my brother, a wise man said, you can only take a horse to the River, you cannot force it to drink. I am not your creator but, I am just a student that is prepared to learn. I find that, i too know stops people from learning something new or unknown. I have done my best and retire to face my life. dalu |
Re: . by letusbepieces: 2:08am On Jan 08, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: Oral tradition are studied and supported with evidence. In this case due to the passage of time and the changes that comes with it, the Oral history have become corrupted. For instance, a place called Idu, is now referred to as Benin.
The history of Oba of Benin began in the 12th century, and peaked in the 15th Century before decline in the 18th to 19th Century. It was documented by Portuguese, British, Yoruba and Benin in the early 20th century. A leading author is Jacob U. Egharevba. Plus, Cambridge Uniersity have been around for nearly 1000 years, a period that predates the arrival of Oba of Benin. They have your history. And how do you so casually use your hand to write things like "Ere" was an "Eze Nri"? The same "Ere" that can be inferred to have lived way back in the 400s CE? U said i used my hand write, to show a corrolation between the names as related. That is exactly wat I did but invited you to disprove it. In that list of Kings, the names are drawn from various tribe dat became Ogiso, some of the names are Igbo, some Ijaw and Bini etc. i.e. Uwa My guy, you want to show that they have their oral traditions mixed up? Cool. I get it, but you're going to have to do better than this, otherwise, all you're spouting here is pseudo-history. Yet, you want these different peoples to come and present their counters to you? How will you even know if a counter is sensible or plausible, when you have clearly not even done proper research yourself? I decided to against my earlier post and go further in the dead of Night and tired. Now, do your bit and reason with the beautiful brain God gae u. dalu.
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Re: . by Unbiased1: 9:21am On Jan 08, 2020 |
Lol. Too many histories and opinions. I no even know the one to believe again lol. Head ache oooo, I just talk say make I remind una of head ache Lol. |
Re: . by sofiscatedmoron: 7:34am On Jan 09, 2020 |
[s] Ebenezar2020:[/s] 1 Like
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Re: . by IgbofromDelta: 8:26am On Jan 09, 2020 |
I would post on this thread the rich history of some Igbo communities in delta north zone also known as Anioma people, detailing their origin and migration to Anioma land in Delta State. One clear thing is that majority of the Igbo speaking people from today's Delta State also known as Anioma are Igbos in origin while few are migrants from Benin and Igala that was assimilated by the many already existing and dominant Igbo communities in Anioma. 2 Likes
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Re: . by IgbofromDelta: 8:31am On Jan 09, 2020 |
Diokpaship As Practiced In Akwukwu-Igbo Kingdom By Emeka Esogbue The name ‘Diokpa’ may have been derived from ‘Di Okpala’, an Igbo word as Igbo historians have postulated. However, the Aniomas have expanded and widened practice as now practiced by a number of Anioma community. The concept is applied to a male who is considered the head of the family, clan or community as a whole. To understand the concept of Diokpa in this instance, the socio-political society of Akwukwu-Igbo needs to be properly understood. Akwukwu-Igbo is one of the Anioma settlements that owes its origin to Nri (today’s Igbo of the South East). Okolie Agu (founder of the settlement), Odaigbo (of Ogwashi-Uku) and Edini (one of the two chief founders of Igbuzo) journeyed from Nri to found their various settlements which today are parts of the Anioma family. Akwukwu-Igbo is segmented in villages (Ogbe) while the villages are in turn segmented in clan (Umunna). At the helm of affairs of the entire community, majestically stands the Obi, who governs the town, assisted by the Obi-in-Council for smooth internal governance. Idumu which comprises of Umunna is a patrilineal umbrella that accommodates descendants within Idumu level. These descendants usually hold their patriarch in reverence and because they are believed to be bound by blood and shared shrine, they hardly intermarry. Where this happens, people involved are compelled to appease the gods with ‘Igbu Ewu nwanne’ rite. For the people of Akwukwu-Igbo, kingship and Diokpaship happen together as organizational concepts; a reason the community has developed a strong centralized system of governance that impacts positively on the society. The Ogbe is a patrilineal organization headed by the Diokpa. Everyone traces his/her lineage to the male ancestor. They exist in commonality and live as biological brothers and sisters would. The Diokpa is usually the eldest male in any particular setting or the first son in a particular family. By this birthright, he occupies a leadership position by reason of being the oldest male person. His authority is acknowledged by all because he is seen as an intermediary between the living and the ancestors. He is also seen as one who is representing the ancestors on earth by thegoodwill of age divinely bestowed on him. This is where he derives his symbol of authority. He is supported by his umunna who throw their weight behind his decisions for the good of his subjects. Opone rightly reported the indigenous socio-political system of Enuani as “an interesting blend of village democracy, monarchy and aristocracy. The democratic element in the arrangement is reflected in the village assembly, a gathering of all the male members of the community – young and old – where issues of grave import are discussed and decisions reached on the basis of popular consensus. The monarchical element is reflected in the head”. To this Gwan added that “these three divisions in the traditional social structure are charged with clearly defined powers, duties and responsibilities which may not be abandoned, delegated or shared”. The above is not lost on Akwukwu-Igbo Kingdom where the Obi sits at the top with the various Ogbes administered by Diokpas for the smooth running of the Kingdom. The advantage of this arrangement is that the citizens also have a say in their own affairs. While the Diokpa of Ogbe hears from the people who make up the Ogbe, the Obi also gets his feedback of events in his kingdom from the Diokpa. This is made possible because the Obi is thought to have a lot to do. The assistance of the Ogbe Diokpas consequently makes governance an easy one for him. Akwukwu justly fulfills the above. Whereas, Diokpas administer their various Ogbes, the Obi is the overall ruler of the town. That these Diokpas of Ogbes sometimes act as advisers to the Obi greatly confirms the interesting blend of village democracy and monarchy in Akwukwu-Igbo Kingdom. The Ogbe Diokpa is somewhat referred to as ‘Onyeachiogbe’ by the people because of the important position he occupies within the quarter, yet these Dikpas are entirely subject to the Obi, who supremely reigns, by inheritance. The Diokpa cannot be discussed without the ‘Ofo’, his symbol of authority and justice. This is by nature made up of a stick of Detarium Senegalense or pieces of it tied together (Ukpolo 2010). It is with this symbol of authority that the Diokpa leads the Ogbe. By Akwukwu-Igbo tradition, this Ofo is only held by men and are hardly seen by others. It is important to state here that at the death of the Diokpa, he is succeeded by the next oldest living man in the quarter, who equally receives the Ofo but never his son. https://thepointernewsonline.com/?p=34356 3 Likes |
Re: . by Ndibunna: 8:49am On Jan 09, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: And so I hold. |
Re: . by Ndibunna: 8:58am On Jan 09, 2020 |
IgbofromDelta: Listen young man. Stop all these impersonation. You just open this moniker on 6th and suddenly u become Igbo from Delta... Are you guys not tired of impersonating to score cheap points... Tufiakwa. 1 Like |
Re: . by ckenneths(m): 9:03am On Jan 09, 2020 |
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